Sociology > Depression > Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns?
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"Fast Recovery" |
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27 Jul 2007 11:52:25 AM |
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Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
Or any CBT/REBT written exercises? Did you try to do it every day for
awhile? How long before you stopped trying the exercises? I'm not a
therapist, but from personal experience I recommend a year every day
to really see improvement. Has anyone tried it that long every day
and not seen an improvement? Anyone? Why did you give up?
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 01:05:46 PM |
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Fast Recovery wrote...
Or any CBT/REBT written exercises? Did you try to do it
every day for awhile? How long before you stopped trying
the exercises? I'm not a therapist, but from personal
experience I recommend a year every day to really see
improvement. Has anyone tried it that long every day and
not seen an improvement? Anyone? Why did you give up?
I did written work using CBT skills for two years. I currently
see a CBT therapist and we work on additional skills weekly, and
have for the past six years. It helps, particularly in my
response to my depression, but doesn't stop me from being
depressed. My latest depressive episode of ten years was caused
by a chemical affecting my brain, most likely permanently,
considering I haven't recovered from it after ten years. I
haven't given up CBT, as it does help with crises, and I need to
stay prepared for crises between them.
BTW, it's obvious you're not a therapist. A good therapist
doesn't try to cram beliefs down a client.
-lisa
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| User: "Fast Recovery" |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 01:58:30 PM |
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On 27 Jul 2007 18:05:46 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
BTW, it's obvious you're not a therapist. A good therapist
doesn't try to cram beliefs down a client.
-lisa
Do you do the CBT/REBT exercises using pen and paper for more than 30
minutes each day? If not, why not?
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 02:58:43 PM |
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Fast Recovery wrote...
On 27 Jul 2007 18:05:46 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
BTW, it's obvious you're not a therapist. A good therapist
doesn't try to cram beliefs down a client.
-lisa
Do you do the CBT/REBT exercises using pen and paper for
more than 30 minutes each day? If not, why not?
Because I no longer need to do them using pen and paper. I do
exercises for over 30 minutes, but I don't have to write them
down to be effective. Awareness does not require writing.
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| User: "Fast Recovery" |
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27 Jul 2007 04:03:54 PM |
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On 27 Jul 2007 19:58:43 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
Fast Recovery wrote...
On 27 Jul 2007 18:05:46 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
BTW, it's obvious you're not a therapist. A good therapist
doesn't try to cram beliefs down a client.
-lisa
Do you do the CBT/REBT exercises using pen and paper for
more than 30 minutes each day? If not, why not?
Because I no longer need to do them using pen and paper. I do
exercises for over 30 minutes, but I don't have to write them
down to be effective. Awareness does not require writing.
I've been doing CBT exercises for over 20 years and I find it most
effective to do the exercises on paper. And many of the positive
reviews for the book Feeling Good by David Burns on Amazon.com seem to
agree that doing it with pen and paper is best.
Does your therapist use CBT/REBT for himself in his own life? Did he
ever suffer from depression and pull himself out using CBT/REBT
techniques? Does he show you his homework assignments? Did you ever
think that the reason CBT/REBT isn't working so well for you is
because you aren't doing the exercises on paper every day? Do you
think that is a posibility?
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 04:28:46 PM |
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Fast Recovery wrote...
Because I no longer need to do them using pen and paper. I
do exercises for over 30 minutes, but I don't have to write
them down to be effective. Awareness does not require
writing.
I've been doing CBT exercises for over 20 years and I find
it most effective to do the exercises on paper. And many
of the positive reviews for the book Feeling Good by David
Burns on Amazon.com seem to agree that doing it with pen
and paper is best. Does your therapist use CBT/REBT for
himself in his own life? Did he ever suffer from
depression and pull himself out using CBT/REBT techniques?
Does he show you his homework assignments? Did you ever
think that the reason CBT/REBT isn't working so well for
you is because you aren't doing the exercises on paper
every day? Do you think that is a posibility?
No. My therapist does use CBT in his life. It would be
inappropriate for him to share every example, though he does
share some.
Is there a reason why, after 20 years of practice, you still
need to write down what's happening in your head?
As I stated earlier, but you cut, my depression is chemically-
induced. CBT makes a difference in my life, but is highly
unlikely to "cure" my depression.
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| User: "" |
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27 Jul 2007 04:29:06 PM |
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On Jul 27, 2:03 pm, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 27 Jul 2007 19:58:43 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:
Fast Recovery wrote...
On 27 Jul 2007 18:05:46 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:
BTW, it's obvious you're not a therapist. A good therapist
doesn't try to cram beliefs down a client.
-lisa
Do you do the CBT/REBT exercises using pen and paper for
more than 30 minutes each day? If not, why not?
Because I no longer need to do them using pen and paper. I do
exercises for over 30 minutes, but I don't have to write them
down to be effective. Awareness does not require writing.
I've been doing CBT exercises for over 20 years and I find it most
effective to do the exercises on paper.
I've been cooking since I was 15, that makes my experience over 22
years now. Does that make me an executive chef? Qualified to go
around flaunting a false belief that I'm an expert and I can teach
anyone how to be a master chef like me if they just learn how to
correctly properly and listen to me? No! I don't care HOW long
you've been practicing CBT, if you think you're the chocen messiah of
CBT, or if you thought you were the happiest man alive because of your
perfection of using CBT half an hour a day with pen and paper. With
your attitude and approach I wouldn't give you the time of day, and I
don't.
And many of the positive
reviews for the book Feeling Good by David Burns on Amazon.com seem to
agree that doing it with pen and paper is best.
I would never read these books because you recommended them. I'd
rather be depressed than turn into an freakishly obsessed preacher on
behalf of CBT who can think of nothing else and offers not ONE OUNCE
of compassion for anyone who doesn't "follow your example."
Does your therapist use CBT/REBT for himself in his own life?
I'd never ask him, that's not my business and it bears no weight in
his ability to offer effective therapy and teach me the tools of CBT.
Did he ever suffer from depression and pull himself out using CBT/REBT
techniques?
Why does this matter?
Does he show you his homework assignments?
Are you freaking KIDDING me?! GOOD GRIEF, get a grip man!
Did you ever think that the reason CBT/REBT isn't working so well for you is
because you aren't doing the exercises on paper every day? Do you
think that is a posibility?
No. Also, I'd like to see you live a *DAY* of my life and...
ah, never mind. You're not worth it. Like you give a damn about me
or anyone else. All you care about is spewing your views on CBT which
is so very tainted and marred by your approach, it makes me sick. Are
you listening/reading? Do you care?
~Rose
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 05:46:14 PM |
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In message <1185571746.547405.12580@g12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
smudgedrose@gmail.com writes
On Jul 27, 2:03 pm, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Does your therapist use CBT/REBT for himself in his own life?
I'd never ask him, that's not my business and it bears no weight in
his ability to offer effective therapy and teach me the tools of CBT.
Did he ever suffer from depression and pull himself out using CBT/REBT
techniques?
Why does this matter?
According to him, mine suffered from a very similar depression to mine -
severe, biological, hard-to-treat, atypical depression. He needed
antidepressants to get far enough out of it to benefit from CBT, which
he taught to other therapists.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "RGB" |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the bookFeeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 02:04:25 PM |
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Fast Recovery wrote:
BTW, it's obvious you're not a therapist. A good therapist
doesn't try to cram beliefs down a client.
Do you do the CBT/REBT exercises using pen and paper for more than 30
minutes each day? If not, why not?
On "Talk Like a Pirate Day", I paint a fake eye patch on "Fast
Recovery's" penis and pretend it's saying things like, "Yarg! Ow'd ye
like ter walk THIS plank an' dispute yar irrational beliefs, me bucko?"
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| User: "slunky" |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the book Feeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 02:02:30 PM |
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_/ Fast Recovery wrote \_
Do you do the CBT/REBT exercises using pen and paper for more than 30
minutes each day? If not, why not?
Because you spam.
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-slunky
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| User: "Truly Truls" |
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27 Jul 2007 02:21:47 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:52:25 -0500, Fast Recovery
<flying14@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or any CBT/REBT written exercises? Did you try to do it every day for
awhile? How long before you stopped trying the exercises? I'm not a
therapist, but from personal experience I recommend a year every day
to really see improvement. Has anyone tried it that long every day
and not seen an improvement? Anyone? Why did you give up?
I gave up those damn exercises because they made me feel worse. Give
my brain open-ended sentences, and it surely comes up with ugly stuff.
And sure, some of my beliefs might have been irrational when I was 25,
but life's lessons and chronic illness have made them less irrational
as the years have passed.
Brains work differently.
--
Beyond the Binary Gender Mold
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| User: "Frett" |
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27 Jul 2007 12:17:32 PM |
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On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or any CBT/REBT written exercises? Did you try to do it every day for
awhile? How long before you stopped trying the exercises? I'm not a
therapist, but from personal experience I recommend a year every day
to really see improvement. Has anyone tried it that long every day
and not seen an improvement? Anyone? Why did you give up?
Why do people relapse in addictions, or cutting, or re-calling a woman
who broke your heart? Yes, as I have said, I read and did the
excersises. for about 4 days.
Why did I stop? Because I'm compulsice. To quote Lisa Simpson,
"There are no quick fixes, change takes time", and includes many
swervy roads. Just when I thought I had it, I let circumstances beat
me down. "What's the worst thing that can happen?"
After 4 days, I didn't feel like answering anymore. Like now.
Frett
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| User: "Fast Recovery" |
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27 Jul 2007 12:45:25 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:17:32 -0000, Frett <Frettbored@gmail.com>
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On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or any CBT/REBT written exercises? Did you try to do it every day for
awhile? How long before you stopped trying the exercises? I'm not a
therapist, but from personal experience I recommend a year every day
to really see improvement. Has anyone tried it that long every day
and not seen an improvement? Anyone? Why did you give up?
Why do people relapse in addictions, or cutting, or re-calling a woman
who broke your heart? Yes, as I have said, I read and did the
excersises. for about 4 days.
Why did I stop? Because I'm compulsice. To quote Lisa Simpson,
"There are no quick fixes, change takes time", and includes many
swervy roads. Just when I thought I had it, I let circumstances beat
me down. "What's the worst thing that can happen?"
After 4 days, I didn't feel like answering anymore. Like now.
Frett
Why don't you try again and go for 5 days? What have you got to lose?
You're in a different place then you were before aren't you?
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Has anyone here actually tried the written exercises in the bookFeeling Good by David Burns? |
27 Jul 2007 07:04:33 PM |
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On 7/27/2007 11:45 AM, Fast Recovery was all like:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:17:32 -0000, Frett <Frettbored@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Jul 27, 12:52 pm, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Or any CBT/REBT written exercises? Did you try to do it every day for
awhile? How long before you stopped trying the exercises? I'm not a
therapist, but from personal experience I recommend a year every day
to really see improvement. Has anyone tried it that long every day
and not seen an improvement? Anyone? Why did you give up?
Why do people relapse in addictions, or cutting, or re-calling a woman
who broke your heart? Yes, as I have said, I read and did the
excersises. for about 4 days.
Why did I stop? Because I'm compulsice. To quote Lisa Simpson,
"There are no quick fixes, change takes time", and includes many
swervy roads. Just when I thought I had it, I let circumstances beat
me down. "What's the worst thing that can happen?"
After 4 days, I didn't feel like answering anymore. Like now.
Frett
Why don't you try again and go for 5 days? What have you got to lose?
You're in a different place then you were before aren't you?
Holy crap a reply!!
....not just another stupid post about the same idiotic thing.
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