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Sociology > Depression |
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"Fast Recovery" |
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02 Jul 2007 08:28:09 AM |
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Have you disputed some of your irrational beliefs today using CBT? |
Take at least 30 minutes today. Sit down with a pen and paper and
dispute those irrational beliefs using CBT exercises. Get rid of
those lies you tell yourself. At least take 30 minutes to try a CBT
exercise.
The belief that CBT can help some pull themselves out of depression,
but it won't help you pull yourself out of depression is using the
"fortune teller error". You don't know that until you try, try again.
You may effectively dispute that belief today, tomorrow, next week,
and move forward, who knows? You don't know, until you try. I believe
in your ability to set yourself free, keep using CBT until you have.
A slave is one who waits for someone else to free him. - Rosellen
Brown
The empires of the future are the empires of the mind. - Winston
Churchill
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| User: "humble life" |
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| Title: Re: Have you disputed some of your irrational beliefs today usingCBT? |
02 Jul 2007 11:18:26 AM |
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Fast Recovery wrote:
Take at least 30 minutes today. Sit down with a pen and paper and
dispute those irrational beliefs using CBT exercises. Get rid of
those lies you tell yourself. At least take 30 minutes to try a CBT
exercise.
The belief that CBT can help some pull themselves out of depression,
but it won't help you pull yourself out of depression is using the
"fortune teller error". You don't know that until you try, try again.
You may effectively dispute that belief today, tomorrow, next week,
and move forward, who knows? You don't know, until you try. I believe
in your ability to set yourself free, keep using CBT until you have.
A slave is one who waits for someone else to free him. - Rosellen
Brown
The empires of the future are the empires of the mind. - Winston
Churchill
Infinite growth vs Finite resources = resource war in our lifetime... I
worry about this. It's not a lie.
Also, I have been working hard, studying hard for years now. CBT seems
to help the shyness elements, and the bereavement elements, but not the
other stuff I experience.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Have you disputed some of your irrational beliefs today using CBT? |
02 Jul 2007 01:44:14 PM |
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In message <o3uh835hgfmfivo6ulhu8kkfnmqroh26oj@4ax.com>, Fast Recovery
<flying14@hotmail.com> writes
Take at least 30 minutes today.
Have you taken thirty minutes today to confront your irrational belief
that anyone cares for what you write?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "humble life" |
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| Title: Re: Have you disputed some of your irrational beliefs today usingCBT? |
02 Jul 2007 06:41:41 PM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <o3uh835hgfmfivo6ulhu8kkfnmqroh26oj@4ax.com>, Fast Recovery
<flying14@hotmail.com> writes
Take at least 30 minutes today.
Have you taken thirty minutes today to confront your irrational belief
that anyone cares for what you write?
Oh now come on, you're doing it to yourself if you don't want help.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Have you disputed some of your irrational beliefs today using CBT? |
03 Jul 2007 01:54:27 AM |
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In message <5etgpaF399bh8U1@mid.individual.net>, humble life
<humble.life@nospam.com> writes
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <o3uh835hgfmfivo6ulhu8kkfnmqroh26oj@4ax.com>, Fast
Recovery <flying14@hotmail.com> writes
Take at least 30 minutes today.
Have you taken thirty minutes today to confront your irrational
belief that anyone cares for what you write?
Oh now come on, you're doing it to yourself if you don't want help.
It's all right, Val's buying me a RealDoll [TM].
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Have you disputed some of your irrational beliefs today using CBT? |
02 Jul 2007 09:36:28 AM |
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On Jul 2, 6:28 am, Fast Recovery <flyin...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Take at least 30 minutes today. Sit down with a pen and paper and
dispute those irrational beliefs using CBT exercises. Get rid of
those lies you tell yourself. At least take 30 minutes to try a CBT
exercise.
The belief that CBT can help some pull themselves out of depression,
but it won't help you pull yourself out of depression is using the
"fortune teller error". You don't know that until you try, try again.
You may effectively dispute that belief today, tomorrow, next week,
and move forward, who knows? You don't know, until you try. I believe
in your ability to set yourself free, keep using CBT until you have.
A slave is one who waits for someone else to free him. - Rosellen
Brown
The empires of the future are the empires of the mind. - Winston
Churchill
In case you missed the thread I directed at you....
If the only tool you have is a hammer (CBT) you tend to treat
everything like a nail. Providers of mental health care are trained
to use all the tools that they are trained to use, not just using one
specific approach.
Glen O. Gabbard, M.D. published by the American Psychiatric
Assotitation:
"Virtually all major psychiatric disorders are complex amalgams of
genetic diatheses and environmental influences. Genes and environment
are inextricably connected in shaping human behavior. Experience
shuts
down the transcriptional function of some genes, while turning on
that
of others (3). As Michael Rutter has emphasized, "Genetic influences,
as they apply to individual differences in the liability to show
particular behaviors, are strong and pervasive but rarely
determinative" (4, p. 996). Similarly, psychosocial stressors, such
as
interpersonal TRAUMA, HAVE PROFOUND EFFECTS OF A BIOLOGICAL NATURE by
changing the functioning of the brain. Teasing apart biological and
psychosocial phenomena may be a formidable challenge when treating a
patient. Finally, to think of psychotherapy as a treatment for
"psychologically based disorders" and medications as a treatment for
"biological or brain-based disorders" is to make a specious
(plausible
but not true) distinction....
In clinical work with patients, mind and brain ARE INTIMATELY
CONNECTED connected and can never be separated....it is problematic
to
lump together terms such as "genes," "brain," and "biological," as
though they are separate and distinct from terms such as
"environment," "mind," and "psychosocial." Psychosocial events may
result in persisting biological alterations in the brain...."
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/162/4/648
Studies agree that both antidepressants and psychotherapy are
effective treatments for depression. There is even agreement that a
combination of the two may be more effective than either alone. It
may
well be that one treatment is likely to be more effective than the
other for a particular person. The art and science of psychology and
psychiatry are not yet refined enough to be able to predict which
treatment will be more effective for a given person.
A large-scale study in 2000 showed substantially higher results of
response and remission when a form of cognitive behavior therapy AND
an anti-depressant drug were combined than when either method was
used
alone.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioral_therapy
Michael Thase, MD (Pittsburgh, PA), followed with a presentation in
which he contended that symptom severity of depression is the
critical
dimension for predicting treatment response. Although depressive
disorders are heterogeneous (composed of parts of different kinds;
having widely dissimilar elements or constituents),a unitary
dimension
of symptom severity conveys important descriptive and prognostic
information. As depression severity increases, the probability of
clinical and biological correlates of dysphoric activation increases.
Clinical correlates of high pre-treatment severity include
melancholic
features, psychotic features, comorbid anxiety and neuroticism,
borderline personality disorder, and suicidality. Neurobiological
correlates include hypercortisolism, changes in regional cerebral
metabolism (increased activation of amygdala, decreased activation of
prefrontal cortical structures), and increased peripheral levels of
norepinephrine metabolites. Increased symptom severity has important
treatment implications including longer time to remission and
recovery, a lower absolute likelihood of remission or recovery within
6-8 weeks, relatively lower likelihood of placebo response compared
to
antidepressant response, and a greater likelihood of response to
combined psychotherapy and pharmacotherapy compared to treatment with
either alone
http://72.14.253.104/custom?q=cache:8OOeTEtdO0sJ:https://www.psych.or...
~Rose, biologically and mentally depressed
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