Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
.
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23 Sep 2006 11:54:50 AM |
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"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
my pleasure
.
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| User: "cal" |
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23 Sep 2006 12:32:10 PM |
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"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked. mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Sep 2006 01:33:20 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de...
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked. mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
oh sure , pick on the sick guy
.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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24 Sep 2006 01:50:04 AM |
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In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked. mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
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| User: "cal" |
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24 Sep 2006 10:05:46 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked. mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
24 Sep 2006 10:28:01 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't
care
how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
my hair grows , i can't stop it , am i bad
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 12:09:06 AM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n5SdnTB7QpxF0YrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation
here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual.
Thanks to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i
don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
my hair grows , i can't stop it , am i bad
no problem unless your hair starts flying around and strangling people. even
then you're not "bad"... but you are a menace. you get your hair cut off
even if you love to wear it long. or, you don't get to be around people.
either way, if you can't take responsibility for your hair and dependably
stop it from strangling people... external restraint. you give up some
freedom.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 12:14:25 AM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef7o9q$c2h$1@news.datemas.de...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n5SdnTB7QpxF0YrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and
dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation
here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this
individual.
Thanks to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for
your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i
don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to
remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
my hair grows , i can't stop it , am i bad
no problem unless your hair starts flying around and strangling people.
even
then you're not "bad"... but you are a menace. you get your hair cut off
even if you love to wear it long. or, you don't get to be around people.
either way, if you can't take responsibility for your hair and dependably
stop it from strangling people... external restraint. you give up some
freedom.
how can i be responsible for my hair growing ,
not what i do with it , not what it gets done for me ,
those are different responsibilities , not how it effects others ,
this isn't going to work at all if you keep adding and changing the
conditions
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 12:31:33 AM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:goWdnZgb2JpX-IrYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef7o9q$c2h$1@news.datemas.de...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:n5SdnTB7QpxF0YrYnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and
dealign with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the
situation here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this
individual. Thanks to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for
your behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and
unprovoked. mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a
total jerk, i don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to
remaining free to behave without external restraint.
my hair grows , i can't stop it , am i bad
no problem unless your hair starts flying around and strangling people.
even then you're not "bad"... but you are a menace. you get your hair cut
off even if you love to wear it long. or, you don't get to be around
people. either way, if you can't take responsibility for your hair and
dependably stop it from strangling people... external restraint. you give
up some freedom.
how can i be responsible for my hair growing ,
not what i do with it , not what it gets done for me ,
those are different responsibilities , not how it effects others ,
this isn't going to work at all if you keep adding and changing the
conditions
you're not responsible for your hair growing. you're only responsible for
whatever you may choose to do or not do about it, which tends to be a
morally neutral area where the question of responsibility isn't that
important.
.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 08:42:21 AM |
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In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked. mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong, like
hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting on what
your voices say, or both. Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 10:23:12 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn+C73C9y9FFFwRL@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i
don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong, like
hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting on what your
voices say, or both.
yup.
Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
those are two forms external restraint might take.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 10:25:29 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efa6f7$3tc$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn+C73C9y9FFFwRL@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation
here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual.
Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for
your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i
don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong, like
hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting on what
your
voices say, or both.
yup.
Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
those are two forms external restraint might take.
there are a lot more than two
.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 11:24:31 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8YSdnbE7IthZAIXYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efa6f7$3tc$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn+C73C9y9FFFwRL@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and
dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation
here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this
individual. Thanks to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for
your behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and
unprovoked. mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a
total jerk, i don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to
remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong, like
hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting on what
your voices say, or both.
yup.
Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
those are two forms external restraint might take.
there are a lot more than two
take it away, mr. music.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
25 Sep 2006 11:35:18 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efaa26$87l$1@news.datemas.de...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8YSdnbE7IthZAIXYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efa6f7$3tc$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn+C73C9y9FFFwRL@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and
dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation
here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this
individual. Thanks to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for
your behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and
unprovoked. mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a
total jerk, i don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to
remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong, like
hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting on what
your voices say, or both.
yup.
Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
those are two forms external restraint might take.
there are a lot more than two
take it away, mr. music.
you know i have the ability but not the patience ,
'i could write windows full of this and that , just to say , " no "
but why bother typing a 500 word or more essay in a place ,
where at best it will only get browsed , but i'll tell you this ,
from my experiences external restraints can take more than two forms
.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
26 Sep 2006 12:18:51 AM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efaa26$87l$1@news.datemas.de...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8YSdnbE7IthZAIXYnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efa6f7$3tc$1@news.datemas.de...
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn+C73C9y9FFFwRL@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and
dealign with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the
situation here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for
this individual. Thanks to all those who are lurking and can
help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for
your behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and
unprovoked. mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like
a total jerk, i don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to
remaining free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong,
like hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting on
what your voices say, or both.
yup.
Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
those are two forms external restraint might take.
there are a lot more than two
take it away, mr. music.
you know i have the ability but not the patience ,
'i could write windows full of this and that , just to say , " no "
but why bother typing a 500 word or more essay in a place ,
where at best it will only get browsed , but i'll tell you this ,
from my experiences external restraints can take more than two forms
indeed they can.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: Hey all |
26 Sep 2006 12:24:11 AM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
news:efad83$a5a$1@news.datemas.de...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mn+C73C9y9FFFwRL@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef7h2h$5j8$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and
dealign with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about
the
situation here last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for
this individual. Thanks to all those who are lurking and can
help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible
for
your behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and
unprovoked. mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on
like
a total jerk, i don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to
remaining free to behave without external restraint.
Being psychotic means you lose control. Your input may be wrong,
like hearing voices, or your response may be unusual, like acting
on
what your voices say, or both.
yup.
Hospitalization is a common response, as is
micro-management of medication, I believe.
those are two forms external restraint might take.
there are a lot more than two
take it away, mr. music.
you know i have the ability but not the patience ,
'i could write windows full of this and that , just to say , " no "
but why bother typing a 500 word or more essay in a place ,
where at best it will only get browsed , but i'll tell you this ,
from my experiences external restraints can take more than two forms
indeed they can.
sorry , in my browsing your original reply , '
i skipped over what you really said '
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| User: "Janithor" |
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24 Sep 2006 10:32:35 PM |
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cal wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
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"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked. mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
How can someone who is not connected to reality make free choices? You
have to be rational to be free. If you think you have a large tapeworm
in your stomach that tells you what to do, how are you supposed to make
rational choices? Yeah, medication helps, but my understanding of this
illness is that it's pretty damn wicked, and going off meds is not
uncommon. If we had a cure for it, they would be cured, and we wouldn't
be discussing this. I don't think they behave they way they do because
it's a rocking good time. It's a tragic, heartbreaking disease, at
least the limited aspects that I've seen.
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| User: "cal" |
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25 Sep 2006 12:09:58 AM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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cal wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Tumf5BYcqiFFFwnN@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com>
writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i
don't care how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
it does, but they remain responsible for it. it's axiomatic to remaining
free to behave without external restraint.
How can someone who is not connected to reality make free choices? You
have to be rational to be free. If you think you have a large tapeworm in
your stomach that tells you what to do, how are you supposed to make
rational choices? Yeah, medication helps, but my understanding of this
illness is that it's pretty damn wicked, and going off meds is not
uncommon. If we had a cure for it, they would be cured, and we wouldn't
be discussing this. I don't think they behave they way they do because
it's a rocking good time. It's a tragic, heartbreaking disease, at least
the limited aspects that I've seen.
i have no argument with any of that. but the fact remains, however
heartbreaking the illness and its outcome may be... if we can't responsibly
control behavior in ourselves which harms others, we have to submit to
external restraint. so long as we claim to be autonomous and free, we're
responsible for everything we say and do.
the loss of self-responsibility is illness' greatest victory. i think
there's no certain road back after that, if there's any road at all. so when
i give someone ***** for behavior which i find offensive, i do it with the
assumption... which i invite them to share... that they are
self-responsible. because if they aren't, then it's not them i want to talk
to but their caregivers and legal guardians.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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24 Sep 2006 03:56:51 AM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <ef3r2v$a1j$1@news.datemas.de>, cal
<cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> writes
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159030029.473395.171520@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
you're not responsible for that individual. you're responsible for your
behaviour with that individual, which was malicious and unprovoked.
mental
illness doesn't exuse you for carrying on like a total jerk, i don't care
how stressed you are.
Bollocks! Of course mental illness affects people's behaviour.
Seems kinda like a self-evident statement to me.
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| User: "Bacon" |
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23 Sep 2006 12:15:11 PM |
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On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Sep 2006 01:32:37 PM |
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"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
LOL
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| User: "David" |
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23 Sep 2006 12:41:24 PM |
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Bacon wrote:
On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
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| User: "justabeing" |
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23 Sep 2006 12:44:20 PM |
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"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Bacon wrote:
On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
Thank you for your note. Google does not regularly monitor or censor
postings sent to Google Groups, but we do try to prevent wide-scale
spam
and other forms of Usenet abuse. Please be assured that the information
you sent to us is being collected and taken into account. While we
understand how annoying off-topic posts can be, we aren't able to
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what up with this "WE" *****, David?
you gotta ***** mouse in yer pocket or WHAT?!
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| User: "David" |
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23 Sep 2006 01:23:54 PM |
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justabeing wrote:
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159033284.195758.241290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Bacon wrote:
On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
Thank you for your note. Google does not regularly monitor or censor
postings sent to Google Groups, but we do try to prevent wide-scale
spam
and other forms of Usenet abuse. Please be assured that the information
you sent to us is being collected and taken into account. While we
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what up with this "WE" *****, David?
you gotta ***** mouse in yer pocket or WHAT?!
Because you can? How about picking up the phone, and dialing 555-4800
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| User: "justabeing" |
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23 Sep 2006 01:29:14 PM |
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"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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justabeing wrote:
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159033284.195758.241290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Bacon wrote:
On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation
here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual.
Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
Thank you for your note. Google does not regularly monitor or censor
postings sent to Google Groups, but we do try to prevent wide-scale
spam
and other forms of Usenet abuse. Please be assured that the information
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what up with this "WE" *****, David?
you gotta ***** mouse in yer pocket or WHAT?!
Because you can? How about picking up the phone, and dialing 555-4800
try 1-800-PIS-SOFF
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| User: "David" |
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23 Sep 2006 01:28:35 PM |
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David wrote:
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justabeing wrote:
"David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1159033284.195758.241290@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Bacon wrote:
On 23 Sep 2006 09:47:09 -0700, "David" <dav05@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Have been a little stressed lately, with hearing voices, and dealign
with parents. It must be in the air. Am sorry about the situation here
last night, I do feel somewhat responsible for this individual. Thanks
to all those who are lurking and can help.
You've been an *****, take a few days off from posting, it will do
us all good.
Thank you for your note. Google does not regularly monitor or censor
postings sent to Google Groups, but we do try to prevent wide-scale
spam
and other forms of Usenet abuse. Please be assured that the information
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what up with this "WE" *****, David?
you gotta ***** mouse in yer pocket or WHAT?!
Because you can? How about picking up the phone, and dialing 555-4800
Will you please stop it with the PA? Jenks could use a new stadium.
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