so full of sadness tonight, so choked with aloneness for which i have
no explanation. writing letters in my head to people from my past,
knowing i shouldn't commit the words to paper and send them, but still
tempted. still looking for somebody to mother me.
once upon a time there was this woman, and she was kind to me, and
then she left. and i've scrawled letters to her and sent them winging
across the state, but not for years. not for years. i don't even know
if she's still where she last was. i don't know if she even wants to
hear from me. i don't know anything anymore except how much i just
want to tell somebody all my secrets and have them tell me i'm still
ok.
--
"i don't condone the liquefaction of pixies!" (kilgore trout)
http://shattering.org
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30 Jan 2007 06:44:19 PM |
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:V7GdnSWN49R5fiLYnZ2dnUVZ_qarnZ2d@adelphia.com...
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170180542.590686.51760@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 29, 11:22 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
"Jane" <jarsenal66nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:Mo6dnWFevvHVWiPYnZ2dnUVZ_oOonZ2d@adelphia.com...
"%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Bruce." <n...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Jane" <jarsenal66nos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:boOdnaY4Pcu9KyPYnZ2dnUVZ_vyunZ2d@adelphia.com...
I agree Bruce and I really don't believe it was my fault,
but
some
how
every once in while my inner child is screaming out how
unjust
my
childhood was, then I calm that child down and she goes
to sleep
for a
while. I just wonder what wakes her up?
I wish I knew. I have my own demons that haunt me from
time to
time.
It's hard to not feel the anger over and over again with
the
memories
burned in so deeply. We intellectually accept and
overcome the
memories
in the short term, but the deep seated emotions can never
be
suppressed
forever. There are too many triggers that eventually bring
them
to
the
surface again, and strike when we're least able to handle
the
pain.
Bruce.
You said that well!
and good psychotherapy can fix it ,
if you're up to the work envolved
honestly I don't know if I am. I think I would be if I didn't
have to
face
everyday life and did in patient therp...
yea i can see that
I think my biggest problem is knowing I have bills to pay,
responsibilities
etc, and my mental health comes second to that... Not necessarily
a bad
thing, but not a good thing either. So if I could just have
someone
take
over everything, if I could give up all those responsibility and
do
strict
inpatient therp, I could probably get somewhere.
most but not all who get that kind of therapy ,
have nothing when they begin they've already lost all that
I think fear losing everything, more then I fear being mentally
unstable...the only thing wrong with you is ,
there's nothing wrong with you- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
Well thank you... You are the first person to have ever said that to
me I think.
well that's me ain't it
Yes wonderfully unique
lets do it
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30 Jan 2007 07:07:48 PM |
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then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
....and it's obvious why
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31 Jan 2007 11:01:09 AM |
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On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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31 Jan 2007 12:46:09 PM |
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"Jester's mummy" <cocky2@nest.egg> wrote in message
news:8pi1s2h75dked33lfj5m92frd364ljtvsb@4ax.com...
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this
comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
I was kind of hoping Sigmund Franz Freud would explain the comment given his
illustrious career in psychiatric medicine, or perhaps why one who should
understand the nature of illness would ridicule someone from an abuse
recovery group in a depression group, almost as if they were responsible for
what happened to them.
--
Rhi
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31 Jan 2007 02:07:10 PM |
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then Rhiannon wrote, On 1/31/2007 11:46 AM:
"Jester's mummy" <cocky2@nest.egg> wrote in message
news:8pi1s2h75dked33lfj5m92frd364ljtvsb@4ax.com...
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this
comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
I was kind of hoping Sigmund Franz Freud would explain the comment given his
illustrious career in psychiatric medicine, or perhaps why one who should
understand the nature of illness would ridicule someone from an abuse
recovery group in a depression group, almost as if they were responsible for
what happened to them.
--
Rhi
I was too, damn him
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31 Jan 2007 02:08:53 PM |
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then Jester's mummy wrote, On 1/31/2007 10:01 AM:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
He's made some skin crawling comments and a stalker.
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31 Jan 2007 02:23:08 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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then Jester's mummy wrote, On 1/31/2007 10:01 AM:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this
comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
He's made some skin crawling comments and a stalker.
ROFL!
--
Rhi
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01 Feb 2007 12:04:02 AM |
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then Rhiannon wrote, On 1/31/2007 1:23 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:52cbaeF1ni5tgU2@mid.individual.net...
then Jester's mummy wrote, On 1/31/2007 10:01 AM:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by this
comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
He's made some skin crawling comments and a stalker.
ROFL!
--
Rhi
When you break up he'll "find a hooker that looks like you".
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01 Feb 2007 02:30:00 AM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:52de6iF1o76u4U3@mid.individual.net...
then Rhiannon wrote, On 1/31/2007 1:23 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:52cbaeF1ni5tgU2@mid.individual.net...
then Jester's mummy wrote, On 1/31/2007 10:01 AM:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:07:48 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com>
wrote:
<(((*>then cal wrote, On 1/29/2007 7:40 PM:
<(((*>
<(((*>> i came here from alt.abuse.recovery
<(((*>
<(((*>...and it's obvious why
I don't get it, Franz. Perhaps you could explain what you meant by
this
comment.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
He's made some skin crawling comments and a stalker.
ROFL!
--
Rhi
When you break up he'll "find a hooker that looks like you".
Okie dokie. :-)
--
Rhi
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| User: "%" |
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30 Jan 2007 07:08:50 PM |
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hi
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29 Jan 2007 07:23:18 PM |
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long ago and far away, "Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> did say:
Wanting to connect, wanting recognition, approval, acknowledgement for
things in our past can be very very very important emotionally, sometimes
just to get closure. I read you Elegy! I'm here for you if you need me.
i just don't understand... why this... why now. why i hurt so bad out
of the blue. why it even matters when nothing can fix any of it. why i
can't just leave it alone and be done with it.
you're a brave, wonderful, sweet person jane. thank you.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
x-no-archive: yes in the headers
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| User: "Jane" |
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29 Jan 2007 07:42:21 PM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message
news:jd7tr2lpuigacgdk9f2gupbqbo2vuq30fd@4ax.com...
long ago and far away, "Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> did say:
Wanting to connect, wanting recognition, approval, acknowledgement for
things in our past can be very very very important emotionally, sometimes
just to get closure. I read you Elegy! I'm here for you if you need me.
i just don't understand... why this... why now. why i hurt so bad out
of the blue. why it even matters when nothing can fix any of it. why i
can't just leave it alone and be done with it.
you're a brave, wonderful, sweet person jane. thank you.
Who knows why we let our pasts come back and affect us now, every few years
mine dumps on me, that's exactly what happened to me, my childhood decided
to dump on me ALL OVER AGAIN and I have to resort it all out, face it, and
put it away again. I don't think I ever get those issues completely
resolved soooo, I deal with them every so often, but it sucks and it hurts
just as bad as it did when I discovered them the first time. Sometimes just
dumping them out to "real people" if only on line helps me A LOT, I get
feed-back and sometimes the positive recognition I crave but seldom get in
real life, if you know what I mean. There are just some places we can cry
our hearts out too and here is one of them...
As far as brave, wonderful and sweet??? Well hun, it takes a brave,
wonderful and sweet person to recognize that in another! Remember that!
Jane
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| User: "%" |
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29 Jan 2007 05:58:12 PM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message news:462tr2hkc8pt1h8djf0s9atfiqevvacmm5@4ax.com...
long ago and far away, "Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> did say:
I was trying to think of the perfect heart felt response and Bobbi you took
the words and wrote them out for me.
Elegy I'm always here for you and you can send me letters if you like, I
understand its not the same but I would be blessed to get letters from
someone as kind and wonderful as you are!
You are loved by many!
i have this weird need right now to connect with someone who knew me
way back when. i know it doesn't make sense. i know. and she was
oblivious, but maybe she knew and just didn't say. maybe i wasn't such
a good playactor as i thought. who knows. but if she knew, she never
saved me. nobody ever saved me.
oh wah poor pity me. this is all so fucking stupid.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
x-no-archive: yes in the headers
someone saved you because you aren't there anymore
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| User: "elegy" |
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29 Jan 2007 06:01:47 PM |
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long ago and far away, "%" <persent@gmail.com> did say:
someone saved you because you aren't there anymore
yeah, and that was me. but while i'm not there physically anymore,
right now i sure am emotionally.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
x-no-archive: yes in the headers
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| User: "%" |
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29 Jan 2007 06:03:42 PM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message news:fm2tr2d955ickc0qo1k8khgaggo1q77k4s@4ax.com...
long ago and far away, "%" <persent@gmail.com> did say:
someone saved you because you aren't there anymore
yeah, and that was me. but while i'm not there physically anymore,
right now i sure am emotionally.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
x-no-archive: yes in the headers
and you are looking for outside stimulus ,
to change your inside issues ,
how does that work ?
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| User: "Gayle" |
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28 Jan 2007 07:57:59 PM |
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wrote:
Elegy,
If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
secrets and never tell a one.
Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
Someone in Miami loves you...
((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
Bobbie
Beautifully said, Bobbie, so forgive me
if I throw a 'me, too' on it. Except for
the Miami part. Someone in Boston loves
you, too, El.
Gayle
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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28 Jan 2007 11:00:00 PM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:vs6dnWbCD7k0ySDYnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@rcn.net...
crysalis7@yahoo.com wrote:
Elegy,
If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
secrets and never tell a one.
Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
Someone in Miami loves you...
((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
Bobbie
Beautifully said, Bobbie, so forgive me
if I throw a 'me, too' on it. Except for
the Miami part. Someone in Boston loves
you, too, El.
Gayle
And Canada! You're a good person El. I don't care what you're secrets are.
(((Elegy)))
--
Rhi
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29 Jan 2007 05:51:38 PM |
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long ago and far away, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> did say:
And Canada! You're a good person El. I don't care what you're secrets are.
(((Elegy)))
part of me wants to ask how that's even possible. how can you not care
what the secrets are? what if they're so horrible and i'm so horrible
and toxic?
god, i haven't been like this in years.
i don't know what's happening.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
x-no-archive: yes in the headers
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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30 Jan 2007 02:06:13 AM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message
news:s22tr2d7dmav23kt084krkots7moru4j8s@4ax.com...
long ago and far away, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> did say:
And Canada! You're a good person El. I don't care what you're secrets
are.
(((Elegy)))
part of me wants to ask how that's even possible. how can you not care
what the secrets are? what if they're so horrible and i'm so horrible
and toxic?
god, i haven't been like this in years.
i don't know what's happening.
Well...one thing I have discovered about people is that our secrets are
almost never about us, they're about what was done to us. So no matter how
responsible or guilty or horrible or toxic we may think we are, it doesn't
mean it's who we really are, and some of the heaviest burdens people carry
are burdens that never belonged to them in the first place. Call it gut
instinct, but I'm guessing this is how it goes for you too. I also believe
in the extraordinary power of forgiveness. I know a lot about violence and
cruelty and ugliness and in some cases downright evil and I have forgiven it
all, so there isn't a whole lot you could say that would change my opinion
of you. I can forgive my way past just about anything, it isn't always
easy, but I know I can do it because I have done it, over and over again. I
also believe in redemption, no matter what might lurk in your past, if the
you that you present here is any indication of who you really are, then you
redeemed yourself years ago. So, I really don't care what your secrets are,
but what I do care about is the Elegy that I have come to know and love
through this group. That's just the way it works for me.
--
Rhi
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29 Jan 2007 06:28:56 PM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message
news:s22tr2d7dmav23kt084krkots7moru4j8s@4ax.com...
long ago and far away, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> did say:
And Canada! You're a good person El. I don't care what you're secrets
are.
(((Elegy)))
part of me wants to ask how that's even possible. how can you not care
what the secrets are? what if they're so horrible and i'm so horrible
and toxic?
god, i haven't been like this in years.
i don't know what's happening.
Toxic smoxic.... I'll tell you mine and then you can decide if you wanna
tell me yours... :o) I can not imagine you doing anything that would make
me not like you!
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29 Jan 2007 02:02:14 PM |
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:00:00 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:vs6dnWbCD7k0ySDYnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@rcn.net...
crysalis7@yahoo.com wrote:
Elegy,
If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
secrets and never tell a one.
Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
Someone in Miami loves you...
((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
Bobbie
Beautifully said, Bobbie, so forgive me
if I throw a 'me, too' on it. Except for
the Miami part. Someone in Boston loves
you, too, El.
Gayle
And Canada! You're a good person El. I don't care what you're secrets are.
(((Elegy)))
It looks global lovely elegy, cause I'm shooting a "me too" across the
miles from Australia. I would be proud and humbled to have you as a
daughter.
(((((((((((((Elegy)))))))))))
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
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29 Jan 2007 05:52:27 PM |
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long ago and far away, yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> did say:
It looks global lovely elegy, cause I'm shooting a "me too" across the
miles from Australia. I would be proud and humbled to have you as a
daughter.
can i pack my bags and cross the ocean? i need a real mom.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
x-no-archive: yes in the headers
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| User: "yuluwirri" |
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30 Jan 2007 01:58:10 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:52:27 -0500, elegy
<elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote:
long ago and far away, yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> did say:
It looks global lovely elegy, cause I'm shooting a "me too" across the
miles from Australia. I would be proud and humbled to have you as a
daughter.
can i pack my bags and cross the ocean? i need a real mom.
The bed's made up and the room is waiting for you.
(((((((((((((((((Elegy)))))))))))))))
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
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29 Jan 2007 07:55:53 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:57:59 -0500, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
<(((*>crysalis7@yahoo.com wrote:
<(((*>> Elegy,
<(((*>> If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
<(((*>> blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
<(((*>>
<(((*>> Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
<(((*>> secrets and never tell a one.
<(((*>>
<(((*>> Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
<(((*>>
<(((*>> Someone in Miami loves you...
<(((*>>
<(((*>> ((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
<(((*>>
<(((*>> Bobbie
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<(((*>Beautifully said, Bobbie, so forgive me
<(((*>if I throw a 'me, too' on it. Except for
<(((*>the Miami part. Someone in Boston loves
<(((*>you, too, El.
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<(((*>Gayle
Me three! Me three! There's someone in Montreal who loves you too, elegy.
I don't have a daughter, but if I did, and she were you, I'd be very proud of
her.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "elegy" |
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| Title: Re: hurts. |
29 Jan 2007 05:50:45 PM |
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long ago and far away, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> did say:
crysalis7@yahoo.com wrote:
Elegy,
If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
secrets and never tell a one.
Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
Someone in Miami loves you...
((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
Bobbie
Beautifully said, Bobbie, so forgive me
if I throw a 'me, too' on it. Except for
the Miami part. Someone in Boston loves
you, too, El.
gayle, i started keeping a journal as a new year's resolution. a paper
one. ink and white pages, words (not always mine) flowing through my
hand onto the pages.
and yet, when i need it, it brings no comfort.
it figures.
i'm so glad you're here.
i'm so glad you're my friend.
--
And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: hurts. |
29 Jan 2007 07:45:25 PM |
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elegy wrote:
gayle, i started keeping a journal as a new year's resolution. a paper
one. ink and white pages, words (not always mine) flowing through my
hand onto the pages.
and yet, when i need it, it brings no comfort.
I was reading an old one of mine the
other day and was amazed to realise --
some things do change! heh. But journals
can't cry for you and maybe you needed
to have a good cry. Maybe. Is the person
you were thinking of contacting the same
person you were talking about around the
high school reunion? Maybe you should
write that letter. Sometimes a recurring
urge is a kind of guidance.
it figures.
i'm so glad you're here.
i'm so glad you're my friend.
I wish I were a close by neighbor. Ya
know, for the holding hands thing. My
email's always open and I'll always keep
an eye out for you here. Not that I can
lessen your suffering, or anything, but
I do care about ya, lady.
Gayle
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| User: "nay" |
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29 Jan 2007 01:10:25 AM |
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Elegy,
Someone in Cape Town South Africa loves you too angel. Hang in
there......I'm sure most of us have been in the very same place you
are in now. Take care sweetheart and dont give up. Things will get
better. Speak to your pdoc - just to touch base and
remember........................
We love you
Nay
On Jan 29, 3:38 am, wrote:
Elegy,
If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
secrets and never tell a one.
Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
Someone in Miami loves you...
((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
Bobbie
On Jan 28, 8:28 pm, elegy <e...@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote:
so full of sadness tonight, so choked with aloneness for which i have
no explanation. writing letters in my head to people from my past,
knowing i shouldn't commit the words to paper and send them, but still
tempted. still looking for somebody to mother me.
once upon a time there was this woman, and she was kind to me, and
then she left. and i've scrawled letters to her and sent them winging
across the state, but not for years. not for years. i don't even know
if she's still where she last was. i don't know if she even wants to
hear from me. i don't know anything anymore except how much i just
want to tell somebody all my secrets and have them tell me i'm still
ok.
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"i don't condone the liquefaction of pixies!" (kilgore trout)http://shattering.org
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| User: "elegy" |
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29 Jan 2007 05:49:02 PM |
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god, bobbie, i'm sitting here bawling, i'm so touched. i wish my
mother could see the person i am and be proud, but she never will.
it's her fault that i am this broken, fractured person in the first
place.
i wish so much that the people who know me best and value me were not
only words on a computer screen. i wish so much that there were
somebody's hand to touch, somebody's shoulder solid and tangible.
long ago and far away, did say:
Elegy,
If I was your mom, I would be so proud of the person I see in your
blog. I am proud to think of you as a friend.
Wish you were here, this Mom would hug you tight and listen to your
secrets and never tell a one.
Sorry for the sadness. I know it hurts.
Someone in Miami loves you...
((((({{{{{elegy}}}}})))))
Bobbie
On Jan 28, 8:28 pm, elegy <e...@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote:
so full of sadness tonight, so choked with aloneness for which i have
no explanation. writing letters in my head to people from my past,
knowing i shouldn't commit the words to paper and send them, but still
tempted. still looking for somebody to mother me.
once upon a time there was this woman, and she was kind to me, and
then she left. and i've scrawled letters to her and sent them winging
across the state, but not for years. not for years. i don't even know
if she's still where she last was. i don't know if she even wants to
hear from me. i don't know anything anymore except how much i just
want to tell somebody all my secrets and have them tell me i'm still
ok.
--
"i don't condone the liquefaction of pixies!" (kilgore trout)http://shattering.org
x-no-archive:yes in the headers
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And now, each night I count the stars.
And each night I get the same number. (Amiri Baraka)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "Bruce." |
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29 Jan 2007 06:03:50 PM |
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"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message
news:3t1tr2p1e2u72uveeodj5pur6omb4ptpnk@4ax.com...
i wish so much that the people who know me best and value me were not
only words on a computer screen. i wish so much that there were
somebody's hand to touch, somebody's shoulder solid and tangible.
It seems so insufficient but here it is anyway ...
(((((((((((elegy)))))))))))))
Bruce.
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: hurts. |
28 Jan 2007 08:17:28 PM |
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I have felt kind of alone before, like you describe, I think it has some to
do with depression, I am sure everyone is sick of me telling this but its
always helpful to keep up with your psychrist, and report any feelings of
sadness or loneliness. It might also be helpful to go through the symptoms
of depression again just as a refresher. Hope that things get better, maybe
you could go ahead and write or email someone.
"elegy" <elegy@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote in message
news:gdjqr2pbpu852iv69926l75pvol74ohujs@4ax.com...
so full of sadness tonight, so choked with aloneness for which i have
no explanation. writing letters in my head to people from my past,
knowing i shouldn't commit the words to paper and send them, but still
tempted. still looking for somebody to mother me.
once upon a time there was this woman, and she was kind to me, and
then she left. and i've scrawled letters to her and sent them winging
across the state, but not for years. not for years. i don't even know
if she's still where she last was. i don't know if she even wants to
hear from me. i don't know anything anymore except how much i just
want to tell somebody all my secrets and have them tell me i'm still
ok.
--
"i don't condone the liquefaction of pixies!" (kilgore trout)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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28 Jan 2007 07:54:13 PM |
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On Jan 29, 12:28 pm, elegy <e...@shatteringDOGPOOP.org> wrote:
so full of sadness tonight, so choked with aloneness for which i have
no explanation. writing letters in my head to people from my past,
knowing i shouldn't commit the words to paper and send them, but still
tempted. still looking for somebody to mother me.
once upon a time there was this woman, and she was kind to me, and
then she left. and i've scrawled letters to her and sent them winging
across the state, but not for years. not for years. i don't even know
if she's still where she last was. i don't know if she even wants to
hear from me. i don't know anything anymore except how much i just
want to tell somebody all my secrets and have them tell me i'm still
ok.
Email pen pals tend to help as you have an exchange of thoughts that
would not really happen in real life. For me, it would not happen
using
snail mail either.
The person might be a long way away - however sometimes you get
to meet them. Sometimes that can be a daily exchange of emails.
Yup, the emails are generally a ***** about life in general, or "what
I did today" type stuff.
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| User: "stan" |
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29 Jan 2007 03:30:44 PM |
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elegy wrote:
so full of sadness tonight, so choked with aloneness for which i have
no explanation. writing letters in my head to people from my past,
knowing i shouldn't commit the words to paper and send them, but still
tempted. still looking for somebody to mother me.
once upon a time there was this woman, and she was kind to me, and
then she left. and i've scrawled letters to her and sent them winging
across the state, but not for years. not for years. i don't even know
if she's still where she last was. i don't know if she even wants to
hear from me. i don't know anything anymore except how much i just
want to tell somebody all my secrets and have them tell me i'm still
ok.
Hi Elegy
I have always thought of you as a wonderful person. Here is a
suggestion......... pick a few people that you know are compassionate
and write them (or IM with them) and tell them your secrets. I think you
will find that there are many who feel that you are OK no matter what
your secrets. We tend to be most judgmental of ourselves, especially if
we are feeling depressed.
Hugs and love
Stan
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