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User: "yuluwirri"
Date: 16 May 2006 03:49:19 PM
Object: I feel so down
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I feel so down this morning. This week I feel like the colour has gone
from my life. Every day seems endless, just like the next. I don't
feel like playing the piano much, and I just feel so lost.
I know it's an adjustment period. I feel that things will pick up
again, but it's really hurting today.
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
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User: "used2be"

Title: Re: I feel so down 16 May 2006 05:38:19 PM
"yuluwirri" <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I feel so down this morning. This week I feel like the colour has gone
from my life. Every day seems endless, just like the next. I don't
feel like playing the piano much, and I just feel so lost.

I know it's an adjustment period. I feel that things will pick up
again, but it's really hurting today.

awww, miss gracie it makes me sad to know you are feeling so down. it will
take awhile to get past this...it is a loss just like many other losses. it
is okay to grieve for what isn't anymore. i'm just so sorry that you have
to go through this. :(
((((((yules))))))
~cindy
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User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: I feel so down 17 May 2006 02:40:35 PM
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:38:19 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com>
wrote:


"yuluwirri" <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I feel so down this morning. This week I feel like the colour has gone
from my life. Every day seems endless, just like the next. I don't
feel like playing the piano much, and I just feel so lost.

I know it's an adjustment period. I feel that things will pick up
again, but it's really hurting today.

Hello C :) (has kitty turned up yet?)

awww, miss gracie it makes me sad to know you are feeling so down. it will
take awhile to get past this...it is a loss just like many other losses. it
is okay to grieve for what isn't anymore. i'm just so sorry that you have
to go through this. :(

((((((yules))))))

Thanks. I really needed those hugs :) Today is much the same. My tummy
hurts with anxiety and I have this stupid song playing through my head
all the time. (You know the one - "she's leaving" - bloody hell!)
I'll cry some more today I hope. I feel the tears are healing. I see
my shrinkage on Friday, so I'll yap his ear off for awhile. It's going
to be a busy week-end so that should help. Thanks for being here mate.
I know you're doing it very tough yourself.
Love,
G xoxoxo

~cindy

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.
User: "used2be"

Title: Re: I feel so down 17 May 2006 04:38:40 PM
"yuluwirri" <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote

Hello C :) (has kitty turned up yet?)

no, i've pretty much given up hope. the signs are still up tho. and
someone else has put up their own lost kitty signs as well. a siamese is
now missing as well it seems. makes one wonder if a cat burglar is about...


Thanks. I really needed those hugs :) Today is much the same. My tummy
hurts with anxiety and I have this stupid song playing through my head
all the time. (You know the one - "she's leaving" - bloody hell!)

:(


I'll cry some more today I hope. I feel the tears are healing. I see
my shrinkage on Friday, so I'll yap his ear off for awhile. It's going
to be a busy week-end so that should help. Thanks for being here mate.

always!
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User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: I feel so down 18 May 2006 03:22:15 PM
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 21:38:40 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com>
wrote:


"yuluwirri" <yuluwirri@hotmail.com> wrote

Hello C :) (has kitty turned up yet?)


no, i've pretty much given up hope. the signs are still up tho. and
someone else has put up their own lost kitty signs as well. a siamese is
now missing as well it seems. makes one wonder if a cat burglar is about...

Oh bum. :( I'm so sorry.

Thanks. I really needed those hugs :) Today is much the same. My tummy
hurts with anxiety and I have this stupid song playing through my head
all the time. (You know the one - "she's leaving" - bloody hell!)


:(


I'll cry some more today I hope. I feel the tears are healing. I see
my shrinkage on Friday, so I'll yap his ear off for awhile. It's going
to be a busy week-end so that should help. Thanks for being here mate.


always!

You're a good mate. Thanks. :)
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.




User: "Gayle"

Title: Re: I feel so down 16 May 2006 04:44:59 PM
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I feel so down this morning. This week I feel like the colour has gone
from my life. Every day seems endless, just like the next. I don't
feel like playing the piano much, and I just feel so lost.

I know it's an adjustment period. I feel that things will pick up
again, but it's really hurting today.

Well, knowing it's an adjustment period
doesn't mean you won't go through a lot
of feelings about it. You gave Cindy, I
think it was, some advice the other day
that was so right on with suggestions
for connections. But it's still going to
feel empty without her. Hopefully less
and less empty over time. My daughter
and I have a different kind of closeness
now than when she lived at home and
there is a joy in seeing her get really
good at taking care of herself.
Sorry to hear you're hurting today, G. xo
Gayle
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User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: I feel so down 17 May 2006 02:36:47 PM
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:44:59 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:

I feel so down this morning. This week I feel like the colour has gone
from my life. Every day seems endless, just like the next. I don't
feel like playing the piano much, and I just feel so lost.

I know it's an adjustment period. I feel that things will pick up
again, but it's really hurting today.

Hey mate :)

Well, knowing it's an adjustment period
doesn't mean you won't go through a lot
of feelings about it. You gave Cindy, I
think it was, some advice the other day
that was so right on with suggestions
for connections. But it's still going to
feel empty without her. Hopefully less
and less empty over time. My daughter
and I have a different kind of closeness
now than when she lived at home and
there is a joy in seeing her get really
good at taking care of herself.

That's how my hubby feels. He is happy for her. Happy that she is
doing what she needs to do, and enjoying life. I just can't seem to
feel that happiness yet. Each day drags into the next and I feel lost
and alone. This all came about so fast you see. I didn't have much
time to prepare myself although she has spoken about leaving home for
a good 2 years now, I just didn't think it would happen so soon I
guess.
How long did it take for you to adjust Gayle? Did you grieve too? It
even feels really funny seeing her now. The boundaries have changed
and yes it is a different kind of relationship. It feels a little
foreign to me, and I'm not sure where I fit in anymore. Does this make
any sense?

Sorry to hear you're hurting today, G. xo

Thanks. I think I've got quite a bit more hurting to do, then if all
goes well, I expect to move on and get on with my life in a happier
fashion.
Do you know Gayle, that this will be the very first time that I have
ever grieved properly for anything in my life. (given that I don't
head straight into a depression). It feels weird. Normally, I would
shut down sub-consciously and then a wicked depression would follow.
If I can manage to work through this in a fairly normal manner it will
be a first in my life.
Yuck it feels awful. :( Any ways, I need to find myself again I
guess. My marriage is going through a funny type of period as well.
It's all so new and a little frightening.
Thanks for listening,
love,
G xoxo

Gayle

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.
User: "Gayle"

Title: Re: I feel so down 17 May 2006 04:35:38 PM
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Hello, Ms. G!

How long did it take for you to adjust Gayle? Did you grieve too? It
even feels really funny seeing her now. The boundaries have changed
and yes it is a different kind of relationship. It feels a little
foreign to me, and I'm not sure where I fit in anymore. Does this make
any sense?

Yes, it does, even though my experience
wasn't quite as unsettling. It probably
helped that my default coping mechanism
has always been to distract myself with
busy-ness. I developed some interests
that I hadn't had time for. And the
truth is, Grace, there are plenty of
things about living alone that I love.
But, in terms of the timeline of
adjusting, I'm beginning to suspect that
our relationship will always be
changing, sometimes more subtly than
other times. She had lived nearby, but
moved 50 miles away a few years ago.
That was an adjustment, too. My son
lives a 6-hour plane ride away. That was
an adjustment.
But, it's all good, imo. They're trying
to live their dreams and I continue to
learn how to develop my own. The lame
advice I'll offer is to balance the
sense of loss by remembering to count
the blessings of the changing
relationship. Many grown-up kids want
nothing to do with their parents. You're
blessed. And you deserve it, you lovely
mum.
(snippin' goin' on)

Do you know Gayle, that this will be the very first time that I have
ever grieved properly for anything in my life. (given that I don't
head straight into a depression). It feels weird. Normally, I would
shut down sub-consciously and then a wicked depression would follow.
If I can manage to work through this in a fairly normal manner it will
be a first in my life.

This sounds like it's a growth
experience for you, albeit a painful one.

Yuck it feels awful. :( Any ways, I need to find myself again I
guess. My marriage is going through a funny type of period as well.
It's all so new and a little frightening.

Can you and your guy maybe plan a
weekend trip? Fortunately for you, I
have no other advice, lame or otherwise,
about marital funny types of periods.
I'm incompetent in that area, heh.
smooches from yer pal, Gayle
.
User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: I feel so down 18 May 2006 03:21:16 PM
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On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:35:38 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:

Hello, Ms. G!

Hello :)

How long did it take for you to adjust Gayle? Did you grieve too? It
even feels really funny seeing her now. The boundaries have changed
and yes it is a different kind of relationship. It feels a little
foreign to me, and I'm not sure where I fit in anymore. Does this make
any sense?


Yes, it does, even though my experience
wasn't quite as unsettling. It probably
helped that my default coping mechanism
has always been to distract myself with
busy-ness. I developed some interests
that I hadn't had time for. And the
truth is, Grace, there are plenty of
things about living alone that I love.

Yes there are some good things, that's true. I have been very busy, in
fact there's never enough time in a day to tell you the truth, but
it's like wading through mud at the moment.

But, in terms of the timeline of
adjusting, I'm beginning to suspect that
our relationship will always be
changing, sometimes more subtly than
other times. She had lived nearby, but
moved 50 miles away a few years ago.
That was an adjustment, too. My son
lives a 6-hour plane ride away. That was
an adjustment.

But, it's all good, imo. They're trying
to live their dreams and I continue to
learn how to develop my own. The lame
advice I'll offer is to balance the
sense of loss by remembering to count
the blessings of the changing
relationship. Many grown-up kids want
nothing to do with their parents. You're
blessed. And you deserve it, you lovely
mum.

Oh that's so kind of you to say. Actually I hadn't thought about it in
this way. Hmmm.. counting the blessings of the changing
relationship... Not sure I can think of any at the moment. I know it's
there, but I can't get to it. Could you give me a couple to start
with? :)

(snippin' goin' on)

Do you know Gayle, that this will be the very first time that I have
ever grieved properly for anything in my life. (given that I don't
head straight into a depression). It feels weird. Normally, I would
shut down sub-consciously and then a wicked depression would follow.
If I can manage to work through this in a fairly normal manner it will
be a first in my life.


This sounds like it's a growth
experience for you, albeit a painful one.

Yes, I sure hope I can come through this and feel it in a normal way.
I'm not doing too badly I don't think.

Yuck it feels awful. :( Any ways, I need to find myself again I
guess. My marriage is going through a funny type of period as well.
It's all so new and a little frightening.


Can you and your guy maybe plan a
weekend trip? Fortunately for you, I
have no other advice, lame or otherwise,
about marital funny types of periods.
I'm incompetent in that area, heh.

I'm not the best either. :) A weekend away would be nice actually.
I'll talk to him about it.

smooches from yer pal, Gayle

Thanks mate. I really appreciate being able to talk with you about
this.
G xoxox
--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.
User: "Gayle"

Title: Re: I feel so down 19 May 2006 05:22:48 AM
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Hey my friend,

Hmmm.. counting the blessings of the changing
relationship... Not sure I can think of any at the moment. I know it's
there, but I can't get to it. Could you give me a couple to start
with? :)

Maybe it's too soon to have evidence of
the blessings? I really do believe that
the fact that she is independent and
healthy enough to go it on her own is a
major blessing, for both of you. When
parents do their job well, there is a
healthy separation. And, in my case
anyway, there has been a narrowing of
that separation over time. It's as if,
once they knew that I wasn't going to
cling to them, they settled in a little
closer to me. When I stopped trying to
make sure they ate well on their own,
they started asking me for recipes. When
I got busier with my own stuff, they
called more often. Sometimes they ask
for advice -- since I stopped thinking
it was my responsibility to continue to
offer all of the tips for decisions and
choices they'd make on their own. When
that happens, it's real sweet.
My daughter and I have discovered that
we love to gab and gab on the phone. In
fact, when she moved back in for a while
and the calls stopped, we both missed
them. That was pretty funny. When she
moved out again, we were back at it,
enjoying the calls even more. The calls
are one of the blessings I count -- and
they don't happen under the same roof.
Somehow I suspect her dad may be already
on that track. Maybe you could ask him
for any signs of blessings he sees with
the changing relationship with your
daughter?

Yes, I sure hope I can come through this and feel it in a normal way.
I'm not doing too badly I don't think.

It sounds to me as if you're facing the
loss head on and giving yourself
permission to feel the feelings of loss.
As long as you don't live in that place
too long, I'd say you're doing a
fabulous job of processing what really
is a life-altering event. And there's
more joy and love to be expressed and to
come in the unfolding and blossoming of
the future. Some parents bear the loss
of a child dying. Your loss can't even
begin to compare to that. Which is a
blessing. You have the luxury of the
time to see how your relationship will
evolve. Such luxuries are a true
blessing in my dark and warped view of
life. She's alive and pursuing her
personal version of happiness. You get
to see that happen. Blessing!

Thanks mate. I really appreciate being able to talk with you about
this.

And I really appreciate that you seem to
see this as something you can, and
shall, find a comfortable place with
someday. More power to you, Grace, and
to your lovely girl. Who will always be
your girl, no matter where she lives.
Blessing! No rush, though, on this
counting blessings thing. Finding peace
with it will come, clearing the path for
different expressions of the love you
have for her and hers for you. I do
believe that's likely what you want when
all is said and done.
Gayle
.
User: "yuluwirri"

Title: Re: I feel so down 19 May 2006 04:25:29 PM
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On Fri, 19 May 2006 06:22:48 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:

Hey my friend,

Giddily matey :)

Hmmm.. counting the blessings of the changing
relationship... Not sure I can think of any at the moment. I know it's
there, but I can't get to it. Could you give me a couple to start
with? :)


Maybe it's too soon to have evidence of
the blessings? I really do believe that
the fact that she is independent and
healthy enough to go it on her own is a
major blessing, for both of you. When
parents do their job well, there is a
healthy separation. And, in my case
anyway, there has been a narrowing of
that separation over time. It's as if,
once they knew that I wasn't going to
cling to them, they settled in a little
closer to me. When I stopped trying to
make sure they ate well on their own,
they started asking me for recipes. When
I got busier with my own stuff, they
called more often. Sometimes they ask
for advice -- since I stopped thinking
it was my responsibility to continue to
offer all of the tips for decisions and
choices they'd make on their own. When
that happens, it's real sweet.

Gosh Gayle, this is the best advice ever. I'm going to keep this and
print it out if that's alright. I will read it every morning. I can
see that what you are saying is so true. And of course I am guilty of
all the advice giving, healthy eating asking about, and anything you
can name! :) This gives me hope and I really like what you have said.
Thanks!

My daughter and I have discovered that
we love to gab and gab on the phone. In
fact, when she moved back in for a while
and the calls stopped, we both missed
them. That was pretty funny. When she
moved out again, we were back at it,
enjoying the calls even more. The calls
are one of the blessings I count -- and
they don't happen under the same roof.

This is lovely to hear. :) Currently, I write emails to my daughter
and we talk about twice a week. She doesn't talk much on the phone,
but that's okay. Perhaps if I backed off a bit, it would give her a
chance to get her bearings and come back a little. Just like you
suggested.

Somehow I suspect her dad may be already
on that track. Maybe you could ask him
for any signs of blessings he sees with
the changing relationship with your
daughter?

Okay. Good idea.

Yes, I sure hope I can come through this and feel it in a normal way.
I'm not doing too badly I don't think.


It sounds to me as if you're facing the
loss head on and giving yourself
permission to feel the feelings of loss.
As long as you don't live in that place
too long, I'd say you're doing a
fabulous job of processing what really
is a life-altering event. And there's
more joy and love to be expressed and to
come in the unfolding and blossoming of
the future. Some parents bear the loss
of a child dying. Your loss can't even
begin to compare to that. Which is a
blessing. You have the luxury of the
time to see how your relationship will
evolve. Such luxuries are a true
blessing in my dark and warped view of
life. She's alive and pursuing her
personal version of happiness. You get
to see that happen. Blessing!

Yes! It is a blessing. I have often thought about parents who lose
their children. I can't begin to understand the heart-ache and pain
those exceptional people go through. I think they have courage beyond
my understanding.


Thanks mate. I really appreciate being able to talk with you about
this.


And I really appreciate that you seem to
see this as something you can, and
shall, find a comfortable place with
someday. More power to you, Grace, and
to your lovely girl. Who will always be
your girl, no matter where she lives.
Blessing! No rush, though, on this
counting blessings thing. Finding peace
with it will come, clearing the path for
different expressions of the love you
have for her and hers for you. I do
believe that's likely what you want when
all is said and done.

I think so too. I want to always be close to my daughter, but it will
be a different kind of close. It's trying to travel through the rocky
ground of the changing relationship that is a little tricky at the
moment. It will come, and I know that I will be happier within myself.
Thanks once again. *huggles to ya*
G xoxoxox

Gayle

--
yuluwirri
~~~~~~~
Fish know.
~~~~~~~
yuluwirri@hotmail.com
.







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