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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "%"
Date: 19 Apr 2007 03:57:27 PM
Object: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION
i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him
.

User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 02:04:55 AM
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Because they had been disarmed
Aaron Zelman of JPFO:
Virginia law states that holders of concealed carry permits are
allowed to carry on university campuses (
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/80510 ). In the
name of "safety", certain persons lobbied successfully to prevent
the carrying of firearms on Virginia Tech's campus. Yesterday's
massacre was the direct result of that lobbying.
The blood of those 32 innocents is on the hands of those who
lobbied for victim disarmament, and on the hands of the president
of the university who acquiesed to their short-sighted demands.
The questions are: what can be done to detect the potential
perpetrators? what can be done defensively so that perpetrators
cannot do as much damage? VA Tech's response was lousy: they did
not take the kind of action needed to respond to a multiple murder
on campus when the suspect is on the loose. Likewise, they had
assured a defense-free environment, so that the killer could not be
stopped by equal force.
VA Tech's ill-considered policies and responses do not create
reasons to disarm non-violent people as a national policy -- yet
that will be called for.
From: http://www.jpfo.org/alert20070417.htm
.

User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 02:19:04 AM
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Because they had been disarmed (ii):
Unarmed and vulnerable Bradford B. Wiles
in The Roanoke Times Thursday, August 31, 2006
Wiles, of New Castle, is a graduate student at Virginia Tech.
On Aug. 21 at about 9:20 a.m., my graduate-level class was evacuated
from the Squires Student Center. We were interrupted in class and not
informed of anything other than the following words: "You need to get
out of the building."
Upon exiting the classroom, we were met at the doors leading outside
by two armor-clad policemen with fully automatic weapons, plus their
side arms. Once outside, there were several more officers with either
fully automatic rifles and pump shotguns, and policemen running down
the street, pistols drawn.
It was at this time that I realized that I had no viable means of
protecting myself.
Please realize that I am licensed to carry a concealed handgun in the
commonwealth of Virginia, and do so on a regular basis. However,
because I am a Virginia Tech student, I am prohibited from carrying at
school because of Virginia Tech's student policy, which makes
possession of a handgun an expellable offense, but not a prosecutable
crime.
I had entrusted my safety, and the safety of others to the police. In
light of this, there are a few things I wish to point out.
First, I never want to have my safety fully in the hands of anyone
else, including the police.
Second, I considered bringing my gun with me to campus, but did not
due to the obvious risk of losing my graduate career, which is
ridiculous because had I been shot and killed, there would have been
no graduate career for me anyway.
Third, and most important, I am trained and able to carry a concealed
handgun almost anywhere in Virginia and other states that have
reciprocity with Virginia, but cannot carry where I spend more time
than anywhere else because, somehow, I become a threat to others when
I cross from the town of Blacksburg onto Virginia Tech's campus.
Of all of the emotions and thoughts that were running through my head
that morning, the most overwhelming one was of helplessness.
That feeling of helplessness has been difficult to reconcile because I
knew I would have been safer with a proper means to defend myself.
I would also like to point out that when I mentioned to a professor
that I would feel safer with my gun, this is what she said to me, "I
would feel safer if you had your gun."
The policy that forbids students who are legally licensed to carry in
Virginia needs to be changed.
I am qualified and capable of carrying a concealed handgun and urge
you to work with me to allow my most basic right of self-defense, and
eliminate my entrusting my safety and the safety of my classmates to
the government.
This incident makes it clear that it is time that Virginia Tech and
the commonwealth of Virginia let me take responsibility for my safety.
http://www.roanoke.com/editorials/commentary/wb/80510
.

User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 23 Apr 2007 09:37:53 AM
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

There's forum at World Net Daily discussing this;
it has been a very hot topic in school districts
and elsewhere for years. Go there and look, it's
too long (and too involving) to copy here.
.

User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 01:02:41 AM
% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

so do I, but then who knows how ppl react is
such a situation?
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 01:08:20 AM
"Contrarian" <adrba65@gmail.com> wrote in message
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% <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him


so do I, but then who knows how ppl react is
such a situation?

yea , i know , it was just a throw out thought
.


User: "Contrarian"

Title: "Lockdown" (Was: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION) 20 Apr 2007 01:07:56 AM
.
User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: "Lockdown" 20 Apr 2007 01:26:18 AM
Contrarian <adrba@bsd1.nyct.net> wrote:
Sorry, hit the "post" too soon. Since I graduated
from high school before Columbine, I was familiar
with the term only in a prison context.
Isn't anyone else here dismayed at hearing it is
a policy also in use in colleges?
Doesn't anyone else wonder if it makes much sense?
Are ppl really forbidden to move around?
From the prolific author, Greg Perry, I found this,
but snipped the link without realizing it:
My bride, a former public school teacher until I rescued her 17 years
ago by marrying her, just told me this: Lockdown is nothing more than
an attempt to keep collateral damage to a fixed number. Its their
(failed) hope that the maximum number of students who will die will be
the number locked inside the room or hall with the shooter.

That's in a primay/secondary school setting. Apparently
no one in Virginia Tech administration (and likely many
others) can conceive of students being capable of
anything other than passive submission.
What's wrong with this picture?
.
User: "Bitterball"

Title: Re: "Lockdown" 20 Apr 2007 02:24:06 AM
"Contrarian" <adrba65@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Contrarian <adrba@bsd1.nyct.net> wrote:


Sorry, hit the "post" too soon. Since I graduated
from high school before Columbine, I was familiar
with the term only in a prison context.

Isn't anyone else here dismayed at hearing it is
a policy also in use in colleges?

Doesn't anyone else wonder if it makes much sense?
Are ppl really forbidden to move around?

From the prolific author, Greg Perry, I found this,
but snipped the link without realizing it:

My bride, a former public school teacher until I rescued her 17 years
ago by marrying her, just told me this: Lockdown is nothing more than
an attempt to keep collateral damage to a fixed number. Its their
(failed) hope that the maximum number of students who will die will be
the number locked inside the room or hall with the shooter.

That's in a primay/secondary school setting. Apparently
no one in Virginia Tech administration (and likely many
others) can conceive of students being capable of
anything other than passive submission.

What's wrong with this picture?

29,700 people is a lot. far more people than at Columbine.
7:15 AM (the initial homocide) is right before classes begin. many students
are eating breakfast (cafeteria makes a nice target), finishing projects at
the computer lab, etc. maintenance, janitorial, library, etc, may be
operating. plenty of people to kill.
i believe it would be unprecendented (in the US) to lockdown a major
university over a single or double homocide.
.
User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: "Lockdown" 23 Apr 2007 09:52:53 AM
Bitterball <bitchyball@example.net> wrote:


29,700 people is a lot. far more people than at Columbine.
i believe it would be unprecendented (in the US) to lockdown a major
university over a single or double homocide.

That may be but my question was about the wisdom,
nay the sanity of the policy -- recalling that it
originated in prisons.
.




User: "Bacon"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 08:20:58 PM
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:57:27 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

same thought here, you have no other choice and he reloaded several
times...I mean I would have leaped right through the glass window
knocking girls down on my way, but some dudes should have rushed
him...
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 08:22:59 PM
"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:57:27 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him


same thought here, you have no other choice and he reloaded several
times...I mean I would have leaped right through the glass window
knocking girls down on my way, but some dudes should have rushed
him...

if he didn't hit me first it would be my move ,
but then i've been shot at before
.


User: "slunky"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 04:21:06 PM
_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot, but I
don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was a
shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight people
because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a shoot out
with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more people
like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I would
be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I don't
pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least provide
cover for other people so they would live.
--
-slunky
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 04:24:11 PM
"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him


Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot, but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was a
shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I would
be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I don't
pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause i don't
know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 07:23:03 PM
On 4/19/2007 3:24 PM, % was all like:

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot, but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was a
shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I would
be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I don't
pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky



i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause i don't
know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for a
large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of vision, this
guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a single
entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.
Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?
But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I can
only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 07:28:27 PM
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 4/19/2007 3:24 PM, % was all like:

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was a
shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky



i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering


I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for a
large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I can
only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 09:16:01 PM
On 4/19/2007 6:28 PM, % was all like:

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 4/19/2007 3:24 PM, % was all like:

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was a
shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky


i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for a
large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I can
only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.



i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 09:20:09 PM
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 4/19/2007 6:28 PM, % was all like:

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 4/19/2007 3:24 PM, % was all like:

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky


i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for a
large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.



i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me


That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 11:28:16 PM
On 4/19/2007 8:20 PM, % was all like:

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 4/19/2007 6:28 PM, % was all like:

"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 4/19/2007 3:24 PM, % was all like:

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat. I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for a
large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.


i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.



they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid for the
doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that community.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 19 Apr 2007 11:31:58 PM
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On 4/19/2007 6:28 PM, % was all like:

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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.


i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.



they change here like some guys meds


Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.
no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you personally
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 01:41:33 AM
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing but
confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.


they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you personally

But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a different
MD all the time. None of them want to live there?
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 11:11:43 AM
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i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.


they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you personally


But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a different
MD all the time. None of them want to live there?

oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern small
communities ,
they all want larger city work
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 01:17:21 PM
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option ,
maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like, so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you personally

But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a different
MD all the time. None of them want to live there?



oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern small
communities ,
they all want larger city work

So a central authority ships them out to do their service on the remote
battle lines?
I'd wanna live there if I was a doctor - assuming I could be reasonably
guaranteed a certain level of income. Perhaps that's what they don't like.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 01:24:43 PM
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when

there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in

a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We

need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option

,

maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with

just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like,

so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you personally

But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a

different

MD all the time. None of them want to live there?



oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern small
communities ,
they all want larger city work


So a central authority ships them out to do their service on the

remote

battle lines?

I'd wanna live there if I was a doctor - assuming I could be

reasonably

guaranteed a certain level of income. Perhaps that's what they don't

like.
they have a doctor bank , doctors get paid well here ,
they just don't get to fulfill their potential as doctors ,
there's no real hospital here so there isn't even removing an apendix
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 03:03:27 PM
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when

there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got in

a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We

need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an option

,

maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with

just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like,

so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you personally

But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a

different

MD all the time. None of them want to live there?


oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern small
communities ,
they all want larger city work

So a central authority ships them out to do their service on the

remote

battle lines?

I'd wanna live there if I was a doctor - assuming I could be

reasonably

guaranteed a certain level of income. Perhaps that's what they don't

like.


they have a doctor bank , doctors get paid well here ,
they just don't get to fulfill their potential as doctors ,
there's no real hospital here so there isn't even removing an apendix

Too bad it takes such driven people to become doctors. I'd be a really
great doctor for your community. I would want people to come to me
though, that's more comfortable for me.
Perhaps you need a researcher/doctor. Isn't there a significant indian
population? That could make for some interesting cultural-genetic
studies. They know that Chingis Kahn had a hell of an empire and is the
"father" to about 32 million people worldwide. It's easy to follow the Y
chromosome around, it doesn't really change.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 03:14:47 PM
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people

he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when

there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only

killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got

in

a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We

need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an

option

,

maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't

designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with

just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's

nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like,

so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community

paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you

personally


But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a

different

MD all the time. None of them want to live there?


oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern small
communities ,
they all want larger city work

So a central authority ships them out to do their service on the

remote

battle lines?

I'd wanna live there if I was a doctor - assuming I could be

reasonably

guaranteed a certain level of income. Perhaps that's what they

don't

like.


they have a doctor bank , doctors get paid well here ,
they just don't get to fulfill their potential as doctors ,
there's no real hospital here so there isn't even removing an

apendix



Too bad it takes such driven people to become doctors. I'd be a really
great doctor for your community. I would want people to come to me
though, that's more comfortable for me.

Perhaps you need a researcher/doctor. Isn't there a significant indian
population? That could make for some interesting cultural-genetic
studies. They know that Chingis Kahn had a hell of an empire and is

the

"father" to about 32 million people worldwide. It's easy to follow the

Y

chromosome around, it doesn't really change.

the people do have to come to the doctor ,
and i don't get what you're saying ,
with regards to natives at all ,
we have a small lab that does blood and pee tests ,
and i think the can do some cardio stuff too ,
they're a mash unit ,
then you're evacted to another hospital
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 04:03:30 PM
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_/ % wrote \_

i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the people

he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when

there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only

killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and got

in

a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We

need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people. I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something. At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an

option

,

maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't

designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room with

just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's

nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked like,

so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community

paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you

personally

But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a

different

MD all the time. None of them want to live there?

oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern small
communities ,
they all want larger city work

So a central authority ships them out to do their service on the

remote

battle lines?

I'd wanna live there if I was a doctor - assuming I could be

reasonably

guaranteed a certain level of income. Perhaps that's what they

don't

like.


they have a doctor bank , doctors get paid well here ,
they just don't get to fulfill their potential as doctors ,
there's no real hospital here so there isn't even removing an

apendix

Too bad it takes such driven people to become doctors. I'd be a really
great doctor for your community. I would want people to come to me
though, that's more comfortable for me.

Perhaps you need a researcher/doctor. Isn't there a significant indian
population? That could make for some interesting cultural-genetic
studies. They know that Chingis Kahn had a hell of an empire and is

the

"father" to about 32 million people worldwide. It's easy to follow the

Y

chromosome around, it doesn't really change.



the people do have to come to the doctor ,
and i don't get what you're saying ,
with regards to natives at all ,
we have a small lab that does blood and pee tests ,
and i think the can do some cardio stuff too ,
they're a mash unit ,
then you're evacted to another hospital

I'm talking about a doctor who's got all the skills that a GP would need
but if he had a symbiotic research interest that would lead to a desire
for him to stay there might be nice. Just a though.
.
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On 4/19/2007 3:24 PM, % was all like:

"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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i wonder why some of the guys in the classroom ,
didn't try rushing and over powering him

Maybe they did. Those could have been some of the

people

he

shot,

but

I

don't understand it either. Remember a while back when

there

was

a

shooting rampage at a mall I live near? The guy only

killed

eight

people

because an off-duty police officer who had a gun and

got

in

a

shoot

out

with him which kept him from killing more civilians. We

need

more

people

like that willing to risk themselves for other people.

I

think

I

would

be the type of person who would try and neutralize the

threat.

I

don't

pack heat anymore, but I'm sure I would try something.

At

least

provide

cover for other people so they would live.

--
-slunky

i don't like to make short of what may have been going

on

cause

i

don't

know ,
it just seems to me that rushing him may have been an

option

,

maybe it was tried i don't know , i was just wondering

I think it was that he was in a building that wasn't

designed

for

a

large viewing environment. In a mall there's a big field

of

vision,

this

guy can walk through the building and pop into a room

with

just

a

single

entrance/exit and from classroom to classroom there's

nothing

but

confusion. A general alarm or yelling doesn't get out.

Perhaps somebody should have tried the fire alarm?

But, like you say...I have no idea what things looked

like,

so

I

can

only imagine the classroom's Bruce Willis taking him on.

i got a new doc and all he knows is what i tell him ,
belly up to the pharma bar the freeze drieds are on me

That's what I tell em too.

they change here like some guys meds

Do you get "Northern Exposure" doctors? Where the community

paid

for

the

doctor's student loans in exchange for him coming back to

that

community.


no , its all paid by a country shared tax fee ,
the government taxes you and pays the doctors ,
for the most part anyway , special stuff might cost you

personally

But that doesn't really answer the question of why you get a

different

MD all the time. None of them want to live there?

oh i'm sorry , yes there's a shortage of doctors in northern

small

communities ,
they all want larger city work

So a central authority ships them out to do their service on the

remote

battle lines?

I'd wanna live there if I was a doctor - assuming I could be

reasonably

guaranteed a certain level of income. Perhaps that's what they

don't

like.


they have a doctor bank , doctors get paid well here ,
they just don't get to fulfill their potential as doctors ,
there's no real hospital here so there isn't even removing an

apendix

Too bad it takes such driven people to become doctors. I'd be a

really

great doctor for your community. I would want people to come to me
though, that's more comfortable for me.

Perhaps you need a researcher/doctor. Isn't there a significant

indian

population? That could make for some interesting cultural-genetic
studies. They know that Chingis Kahn had a hell of an empire and is

the

"father" to about 32 million people worldwide. It's easy to follow

the

Y

chromosome around, it doesn't really change.



the people do have to come to the doctor ,
and i don't get what you're saying ,
with regards to natives at all ,
we have a small lab that does blood and pee tests ,
and i think the can do some cardio stuff too ,
they're a mash unit ,
then you're evacted to another hospital


I'm talking about a doctor who's got all the skills that a GP would

need

but if he had a symbiotic research interest that would lead to a

desire

for him to stay there might be nice. Just a though.

a vet would do better
.
User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 04:48:51 PM
On 4/20/2007 3:04 PM, % was all like:


the people do have to come to the doctor ,
and i don't get what you're saying ,
with regards to natives at all ,
we have a small lab that does blood and pee tests ,
and i think the can do some cardio stuff too ,
they're a mash unit ,
then you're evacted to another hospital

I'm talking about a doctor who's got all the skills that a GP would

need

but if he had a symbiotic research interest that would lead to a

desire

for him to stay there might be nice. Just a though.



a vet would do better

A vet/GP, nice....
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 05:00:06 PM
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:58sqq0F2h818lU1@mid.individual.net...

On 4/20/2007 3:04 PM, % was all like:


the people do have to come to the doctor ,
and i don't get what you're saying ,
with regards to natives at all ,
we have a small lab that does blood and pee tests ,
and i think the can do some cardio stuff too ,
they're a mash unit ,
then you're evacted to another hospital

I'm talking about a doctor who's got all the skills that a GP would

need

but if he had a symbiotic research interest that would lead to a

desire

for him to stay there might be nice. Just a though.



a vet would do better


A vet/GP, nice.... ,

we have that , her name is Ma McPheeters ,
she can heal anything
.
User: "slunky"

Title: Re: I MEAN THIS AS A SINCERE QUESTION 20 Apr 2007 05:03:25 PM
_/ % wrote \_

we have that , her name is Ma McPheeters ,
she can heal anything

I knew a guy named Justin McPheeters. He worked at the treatment
facility I was in. He wrote about me in one of his published papers. I
was his case study.
--
-slunky
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