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02 Jun 2006 01:52:10 PM |
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I thought it was safer to stay alone.[long] |
After my divorce five years ago,after losing nearly every material
thing for the third time in my life, I went through a period where my
anger was out-of-control. Proper meds and meditation restored
civility, but I remained bitter and overly defensive.
I went to therapy and shared my thoughts with people who understood,
or so I thought. From every quarter, I was pushed to do things I was
not emotionally prepared to do at the time, and when I resisted, I was
either pushed harder or picked apart. This isn't a "wah-wah poor
persecuted me" statement; I'm attempting to say the experiences did
more harm than good. I became fearful in ways I had not been before. I
withdrew more, building a cage around myself, believing I had to do
everything on my own. I stopped crying and being suicidal after a
while, then the shock of wondering "why all the harshness?" wore off,
and it left me determined to isolate.
Isolation did not mean "giving up". I live in a building that I hate.
While my apartment itself is comfortable, I face harassment and
hundreds of people who've given up on life every time I step outside.
That's their problem, I said. They can sit here and rot if they like.
I'm going to use this as an opportunity to get the formal education
I've always wanted. Then I'm going to work, and I'll leave here, and
they can stay stuck.
And I tried to get that education, twice. First, in 2001, I entered a
nurse-assistant program, hoping to work part-time while pursuing an
LPN-to-RN track. But at the end of training, I began having violent
flashbacks of being my grandmother's forced caretaker. When the first
one occurred, I hoped it was an aberration and returned to class the
next day. A second intrusive vision happened, same subject, more vivid
and violent. I then knew I would not be safe to care for patients. I'd
never forgive myself if I mistook an innocent patient for that cruel,
selfish, demanding woman I was stuck with. But I grew up in a family
of nurses and love the medical field. I retreated, not by giving up
but simply wondering what I could do next.
Leaving the program brought harsh judgement, again, from people I
thought might understand. Although the financial loss was minimal and
half my tuition was refunded, State Vocational Rehabilitation won't
return any of my phone calls. I've gone to their office couple of
times, only to hear "you can get a job on your own, you don't need
us." Eh... I haven't held a job since 2000. I'm disabled. It's in your
freakin' service description to help people like me, including if a
career or training choice does not prove to be a good fit.
Last year I decided to skip all supposed "helping" agencies by
registering for college. Two years and I'd have a certificate to work
in the medical field, an office position, no caretaking and
(hopefully) no flashbacks. A couple of weeks before I was to begin
classes, I began having constant migraines and flashbacks. A week
before, I experienced recurring nightmares that continued into waking
hours as hallucinations.. they were horrible, being surrounded by dead
things at every turn, I could even _smell_ them. My therapist at the
time acknowledged the severity. I withdrew from classes, hoping I'd
find a way to address what's so fucking wrong inside my head that I
cannot better myself.
I sunk into despair again after withdrawing from school, something I
badly wanted to do, even was excited about. How much more will this
illness take from me, I wondered. Then, one night, after a
conversation with a devoutly spiritual person in my building, I was
inspired to use a talent that is not often subject to PTSD reactions.
I completed the first draft of a novel and began the sequel. For the
last year, I've spent most of my time revising and forming them into
readable, interesting stories. It was totally enjoyable, and for once,
I got support instead of harsh criticism.
About a month ago, I asked myself what happened to the road-cycling
routine I used to love. Too many long nights at the keyboard, I said.
Get back out there and find the joy you knew a few years ago, fifteen
miles every other day, the peace of moving meditation and added
benefit of mood control. And I did. It's been a while, so the rides
were ten miles, stopping to rest until my body gained strength and
endurance again. I was getting back in shape, fast.
I could not anticipate what happened next. One morning I was riding
happily through a quiet residential neighborhood and was cast into
despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge. Why? People coming
and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their gardens.
Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world, the place I've longed so desperately to be part of,
barred by mental illness and being born into an unfortunate situation.
I made a bad decision five years ago. Sealing myself off and relying
entirely on my own incentive, attempting to pursue a better life
without fear of insults, pushing and criticism -- it's been a
miserable failure. Maybe a hardy few make successes of themselves in
isolation, but I am not one of them.
I am disconnected from everyone except those I talk to from a
distance, on this computer, and in my recent pain I've withdrawn even
from them. I refuse to give up, my abusers win if I do. But in many
ways, I do not know how to connect to anyone face-to-face any more.
Mostly, I fear reaching out for support again. There isn't a choice,
my emotional state is disintegrating, I have to try. How much more
criticism will I have to bear along the way? Only time will tell.
What I really need is compassion. Not enabling, not babying, love and
compassion. That's what I was looking for five years ago, and instead
found (mostly offline) an atmosphere which was exactly how my family
treated me. I expect to be shoved around by folks in the mainstream,
but in a goddamed therapy group? Ever had a therapist flip out on you
because she was a control freak who needed more therapy than all the
group members combined? She grabbed an industrial-sized box of tissues
and withdrew the smaller boxes inside, one by one, to throw them
around the room. Then she started throwing them AT ME. Because I
wouldn't do exactly what she wanted me to do, things I had repeatedly
stated were beyond my capabilities. If one of those boxes had struck
me, I'd probably be in prison right now. My mother used to throw
shoes, thick-soled nurse's shoes, and whenever one hit me, I hit her
back. Hard. That reflex remains. I don't want to be rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with self-defense -- unless you're a psych patient.
I'm strong in many ways, independent in others, intelligent in more.
But I am deeply wounded, I have no outside support and two very real
illnesses that interfere with my ability to function. I don't expect
to meet the standards of those who are not similarly impaired... one
day I hope to understand why I've been expected to perform at that
level.
The writing has gone by the wayside as the error of my isolative
decision has become clear. I am stressed to the breaking point over
financial matters, monthly costs rising beyond my ability to keep up
with them, and I'm getting all the entitlement support a disabled
person can get. Everything else has to wait. I have to address this
first. I HAVE to make more money, not much, but enough to no longer
lay awake at night wondering how much longer I can afford to stay
alive. I need help to get there. I need to have some support when the
nasty symptoms of my illnesses interfere.
All the while, there's a childish voice echoing in my head, the same
one who spoke in real-time many years ago... why can't someone help
me? Why can't someone care about me? I'm not bad, I want to do better,
I don't want to be this way (emotionally disturbed), please, someone
help me do better. Attention? What do you mean I just want attention?
I just want to be loved.
I can't give up, I simply can't. When will I finally find assistance
actually _helps_ me? I still believe I can do better, but I can't do
it alone. I'm going to seek help again, but I'm so fearful that I'm
having panic attacks every day. Will I find assistance, understanding,
guidance, tolerance of setbacks -- or more cruelty? Because if that's
the case, all I need is my own mind. I can destroy myself without
anyone's "help".
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: I thought it was safer to stay alone.[long] |
02 Jun 2006 06:09:34 PM |
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(((((claude)))))
i know you don't care for hugs, but please accept this one from afar. i'm
so sorry, girl. so very sorry.
~u2b
"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:2hu08252qlfea87ekm205vl4bfjt315j27@4ax.com...
After my divorce five years ago,after losing nearly every material
thing for the third time in my life, I went through a period where my
anger was out-of-control. Proper meds and meditation restored
civility, but I remained bitter and overly defensive.
I went to therapy and shared my thoughts with people who understood,
or so I thought. From every quarter, I was pushed to do things I was
not emotionally prepared to do at the time, and when I resisted, I was
either pushed harder or picked apart. This isn't a "wah-wah poor
persecuted me" statement; I'm attempting to say the experiences did
more harm than good. I became fearful in ways I had not been before. I
withdrew more, building a cage around myself, believing I had to do
everything on my own. I stopped crying and being suicidal after a
while, then the shock of wondering "why all the harshness?" wore off,
and it left me determined to isolate.
Isolation did not mean "giving up". I live in a building that I hate.
While my apartment itself is comfortable, I face harassment and
hundreds of people who've given up on life every time I step outside.
That's their problem, I said. They can sit here and rot if they like.
I'm going to use this as an opportunity to get the formal education
I've always wanted. Then I'm going to work, and I'll leave here, and
they can stay stuck.
And I tried to get that education, twice. First, in 2001, I entered a
nurse-assistant program, hoping to work part-time while pursuing an
LPN-to-RN track. But at the end of training, I began having violent
flashbacks of being my grandmother's forced caretaker. When the first
one occurred, I hoped it was an aberration and returned to class the
next day. A second intrusive vision happened, same subject, more vivid
and violent. I then knew I would not be safe to care for patients. I'd
never forgive myself if I mistook an innocent patient for that cruel,
selfish, demanding woman I was stuck with. But I grew up in a family
of nurses and love the medical field. I retreated, not by giving up
but simply wondering what I could do next.
Leaving the program brought harsh judgement, again, from people I
thought might understand. Although the financial loss was minimal and
half my tuition was refunded, State Vocational Rehabilitation won't
return any of my phone calls. I've gone to their office couple of
times, only to hear "you can get a job on your own, you don't need
us." Eh... I haven't held a job since 2000. I'm disabled. It's in your
freakin' service description to help people like me, including if a
career or training choice does not prove to be a good fit.
Last year I decided to skip all supposed "helping" agencies by
registering for college. Two years and I'd have a certificate to work
in the medical field, an office position, no caretaking and
(hopefully) no flashbacks. A couple of weeks before I was to begin
classes, I began having constant migraines and flashbacks. A week
before, I experienced recurring nightmares that continued into waking
hours as hallucinations.. they were horrible, being surrounded by dead
things at every turn, I could even _smell_ them. My therapist at the
time acknowledged the severity. I withdrew from classes, hoping I'd
find a way to address what's so fucking wrong inside my head that I
cannot better myself.
I sunk into despair again after withdrawing from school, something I
badly wanted to do, even was excited about. How much more will this
illness take from me, I wondered. Then, one night, after a
conversation with a devoutly spiritual person in my building, I was
inspired to use a talent that is not often subject to PTSD reactions.
I completed the first draft of a novel and began the sequel. For the
last year, I've spent most of my time revising and forming them into
readable, interesting stories. It was totally enjoyable, and for once,
I got support instead of harsh criticism.
About a month ago, I asked myself what happened to the road-cycling
routine I used to love. Too many long nights at the keyboard, I said.
Get back out there and find the joy you knew a few years ago, fifteen
miles every other day, the peace of moving meditation and added
benefit of mood control. And I did. It's been a while, so the rides
were ten miles, stopping to rest until my body gained strength and
endurance again. I was getting back in shape, fast.
I could not anticipate what happened next. One morning I was riding
happily through a quiet residential neighborhood and was cast into
despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge. Why? People coming
and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their gardens.
Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world, the place I've longed so desperately to be part of,
barred by mental illness and being born into an unfortunate situation.
I made a bad decision five years ago. Sealing myself off and relying
entirely on my own incentive, attempting to pursue a better life
without fear of insults, pushing and criticism -- it's been a
miserable failure. Maybe a hardy few make successes of themselves in
isolation, but I am not one of them.
I am disconnected from everyone except those I talk to from a
distance, on this computer, and in my recent pain I've withdrawn even
from them. I refuse to give up, my abusers win if I do. But in many
ways, I do not know how to connect to anyone face-to-face any more.
Mostly, I fear reaching out for support again. There isn't a choice,
my emotional state is disintegrating, I have to try. How much more
criticism will I have to bear along the way? Only time will tell.
What I really need is compassion. Not enabling, not babying, love and
compassion. That's what I was looking for five years ago, and instead
found (mostly offline) an atmosphere which was exactly how my family
treated me. I expect to be shoved around by folks in the mainstream,
but in a goddamed therapy group? Ever had a therapist flip out on you
because she was a control freak who needed more therapy than all the
group members combined? She grabbed an industrial-sized box of tissues
and withdrew the smaller boxes inside, one by one, to throw them
around the room. Then she started throwing them AT ME. Because I
wouldn't do exactly what she wanted me to do, things I had repeatedly
stated were beyond my capabilities. If one of those boxes had struck
me, I'd probably be in prison right now. My mother used to throw
shoes, thick-soled nurse's shoes, and whenever one hit me, I hit her
back. Hard. That reflex remains. I don't want to be rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with self-defense -- unless you're a psych patient.
I'm strong in many ways, independent in others, intelligent in more.
But I am deeply wounded, I have no outside support and two very real
illnesses that interfere with my ability to function. I don't expect
to meet the standards of those who are not similarly impaired... one
day I hope to understand why I've been expected to perform at that
level.
The writing has gone by the wayside as the error of my isolative
decision has become clear. I am stressed to the breaking point over
financial matters, monthly costs rising beyond my ability to keep up
with them, and I'm getting all the entitlement support a disabled
person can get. Everything else has to wait. I have to address this
first. I HAVE to make more money, not much, but enough to no longer
lay awake at night wondering how much longer I can afford to stay
alive. I need help to get there. I need to have some support when the
nasty symptoms of my illnesses interfere.
All the while, there's a childish voice echoing in my head, the same
one who spoke in real-time many years ago... why can't someone help
me? Why can't someone care about me? I'm not bad, I want to do better,
I don't want to be this way (emotionally disturbed), please, someone
help me do better. Attention? What do you mean I just want attention?
I just want to be loved.
I can't give up, I simply can't. When will I finally find assistance
actually _helps_ me? I still believe I can do better, but I can't do
it alone. I'm going to seek help again, but I'm so fearful that I'm
having panic attacks every day. Will I find assistance, understanding,
guidance, tolerance of setbacks -- or more cruelty? Because if that's
the case, all I need is my own mind. I can destroy myself without
anyone's "help".
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: I thought it was safer to stay alone.[long] |
02 Jun 2006 02:04:29 PM |
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:2hu08252qlfea87ekm205vl4bfjt315j27@4ax.com...
After my divorce five years ago,after losing nearly every material
thing for the third time in my life, I went through a period where my
anger was out-of-control. Proper meds and meditation restored
civility, but I remained bitter and overly defensive.
I went to therapy and shared my thoughts with people who understood,
or so I thought. From every quarter, I was pushed to do things I was
not emotionally prepared to do at the time, and when I resisted, I was
either pushed harder or picked apart. This isn't a "wah-wah poor
persecuted me" statement; I'm attempting to say the experiences did
more harm than good. I became fearful in ways I had not been before. I
withdrew more, building a cage around myself, believing I had to do
everything on my own. I stopped crying and being suicidal after a
while, then the shock of wondering "why all the harshness?" wore off,
and it left me determined to isolate.
Isolation did not mean "giving up". I live in a building that I hate.
While my apartment itself is comfortable, I face harassment and
hundreds of people who've given up on life every time I step outside.
That's their problem, I said. They can sit here and rot if they like.
I'm going to use this as an opportunity to get the formal education
I've always wanted. Then I'm going to work, and I'll leave here, and
they can stay stuck.
And I tried to get that education, twice. First, in 2001, I entered a
nurse-assistant program, hoping to work part-time while pursuing an
LPN-to-RN track. But at the end of training, I began having violent
flashbacks of being my grandmother's forced caretaker. When the first
one occurred, I hoped it was an aberration and returned to class the
next day. A second intrusive vision happened, same subject, more vivid
and violent. I then knew I would not be safe to care for patients. I'd
never forgive myself if I mistook an innocent patient for that cruel,
selfish, demanding woman I was stuck with. But I grew up in a family
of nurses and love the medical field. I retreated, not by giving up
but simply wondering what I could do next.
Leaving the program brought harsh judgement, again, from people I
thought might understand. Although the financial loss was minimal and
half my tuition was refunded, State Vocational Rehabilitation won't
return any of my phone calls. I've gone to their office couple of
times, only to hear "you can get a job on your own, you don't need
us." Eh... I haven't held a job since 2000. I'm disabled. It's in your
freakin' service description to help people like me, including if a
career or training choice does not prove to be a good fit.
Last year I decided to skip all supposed "helping" agencies by
registering for college. Two years and I'd have a certificate to work
in the medical field, an office position, no caretaking and
(hopefully) no flashbacks. A couple of weeks before I was to begin
classes, I began having constant migraines and flashbacks. A week
before, I experienced recurring nightmares that continued into waking
hours as hallucinations.. they were horrible, being surrounded by dead
things at every turn, I could even _smell_ them. My therapist at the
time acknowledged the severity. I withdrew from classes, hoping I'd
find a way to address what's so fucking wrong inside my head that I
cannot better myself.
I sunk into despair again after withdrawing from school, something I
badly wanted to do, even was excited about. How much more will this
illness take from me, I wondered. Then, one night, after a
conversation with a devoutly spiritual person in my building, I was
inspired to use a talent that is not often subject to PTSD reactions.
I completed the first draft of a novel and began the sequel. For the
last year, I've spent most of my time revising and forming them into
readable, interesting stories. It was totally enjoyable, and for once,
I got support instead of harsh criticism.
About a month ago, I asked myself what happened to the road-cycling
routine I used to love. Too many long nights at the keyboard, I said.
Get back out there and find the joy you knew a few years ago, fifteen
miles every other day, the peace of moving meditation and added
benefit of mood control. And I did. It's been a while, so the rides
were ten miles, stopping to rest until my body gained strength and
endurance again. I was getting back in shape, fast.
I could not anticipate what happened next. One morning I was riding
happily through a quiet residential neighborhood and was cast into
despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge. Why? People coming
and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their gardens.
Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world, the place I've longed so desperately to be part of,
barred by mental illness and being born into an unfortunate situation.
I made a bad decision five years ago. Sealing myself off and relying
entirely on my own incentive, attempting to pursue a better life
without fear of insults, pushing and criticism -- it's been a
miserable failure. Maybe a hardy few make successes of themselves in
isolation, but I am not one of them.
I am disconnected from everyone except those I talk to from a
distance, on this computer, and in my recent pain I've withdrawn even
from them. I refuse to give up, my abusers win if I do. But in many
ways, I do not know how to connect to anyone face-to-face any more.
Mostly, I fear reaching out for support again. There isn't a choice,
my emotional state is disintegrating, I have to try. How much more
criticism will I have to bear along the way? Only time will tell.
What I really need is compassion. Not enabling, not babying, love and
compassion. That's what I was looking for five years ago, and instead
found (mostly offline) an atmosphere which was exactly how my family
treated me. I expect to be shoved around by folks in the mainstream,
but in a goddamed therapy group? Ever had a therapist flip out on you
because she was a control freak who needed more therapy than all the
group members combined? She grabbed an industrial-sized box of tissues
and withdrew the smaller boxes inside, one by one, to throw them
around the room. Then she started throwing them AT ME. Because I
wouldn't do exactly what she wanted me to do, things I had repeatedly
stated were beyond my capabilities. If one of those boxes had struck
me, I'd probably be in prison right now. My mother used to throw
shoes, thick-soled nurse's shoes, and whenever one hit me, I hit her
back. Hard. That reflex remains. I don't want to be rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with self-defense -- unless you're a psych patient.
I'm strong in many ways, independent in others, intelligent in more.
But I am deeply wounded, I have no outside support and two very real
illnesses that interfere with my ability to function. I don't expect
to meet the standards of those who are not similarly impaired... one
day I hope to understand why I've been expected to perform at that
level.
The writing has gone by the wayside as the error of my isolative
decision has become clear. I am stressed to the breaking point over
financial matters, monthly costs rising beyond my ability to keep up
with them, and I'm getting all the entitlement support a disabled
person can get. Everything else has to wait. I have to address this
first. I HAVE to make more money, not much, but enough to no longer
lay awake at night wondering how much longer I can afford to stay
alive. I need help to get there. I need to have some support when the
nasty symptoms of my illnesses interfere.
All the while, there's a childish voice echoing in my head, the same
one who spoke in real-time many years ago... why can't someone help
me? Why can't someone care about me? I'm not bad, I want to do better,
I don't want to be this way (emotionally disturbed), please, someone
help me do better. Attention? What do you mean I just want attention?
I just want to be loved.
I can't give up, I simply can't. When will I finally find assistance
actually _helps_ me? I still believe I can do better, but I can't do
it alone. I'm going to seek help again, but I'm so fearful that I'm
having panic attacks every day. Will I find assistance, understanding,
guidance, tolerance of setbacks -- or more cruelty? Because if that's
the case, all I need is my own mind. I can destroy myself without
anyone's "help".
go ride your bike
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: I thought it was safer to stay alone.[long] |
03 Jun 2006 12:43:12 AM |
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Q: Is there a possibility that you might have what is called complex
PTSD? I ask because I've been through a severely difficult time lately,
in which I'm still exhibiting post-traumatic symptoms. But not all the
symptoms are concurrent with PTSD. Most of them, in fact, are closer to
complex PTSD.
The symptoms of complex PTSD, FYI, may be found at:
http://www.palace.net/llama/psych/cptsd.html
The two differ in that PTSD is normally a reaction to witnessing a
life-threatening event. Complex PTSD, meanwhile, follows, according to
the above URL, "A history of subjection to totalitarian control over a
prolonged period (months to years)....Examples also include those
subjected to totalitarian systems in sexual and domestic life, including
survivors of domestic battering, childhood physical or sexual abuse, and
organized sexual exploitation."
I also wonder, regarding my own situation, if the two disorders are
related to one another and so might share symptoms back and forth, or if
they're actually two separate and unrelated disorders and so might exist
concomitantly. As I said, I have symptoms particular to both, but not
enough of either variety to make a clear diagnosis as yet.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: I thought it was safer to stay alone.[long] |
03 Jun 2006 01:02:07 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 05:43:12 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@hotmail.com> wrote:
->Q: Is there a possibility that you might have what is called complex
->PTSD? I ask because I've been through a severely difficult time lately,
->in which I'm still exhibiting post-traumatic symptoms. But not all the
->symptoms are concurrent with PTSD. Most of them, in fact, are closer to
->complex PTSD.
->
->The symptoms of complex PTSD, FYI, may be found at:
->http://www.palace.net/llama/psych/cptsd.html
->
->The two differ in that PTSD is normally a reaction to witnessing a
->life-threatening event. Complex PTSD, meanwhile, follows, according to
->the above URL, "A history of subjection to totalitarian control over a
->prolonged period (months to years)....Examples also include those
->subjected to totalitarian systems in sexual and domestic life, including
->survivors of domestic battering, childhood physical or sexual abuse, and
->organized sexual exploitation."
->
->I also wonder, regarding my own situation, if the two disorders are
->related to one another and so might share symptoms back and forth, or if
->they're actually two separate and unrelated disorders and so might exist
->concomitantly. As I said, I have symptoms particular to both, but not
->enough of either variety to make a clear diagnosis as yet.
Actually, my official Dx is Complex PTSD. It seems different than
what I saw in my ex. His PTSD was from childhood abuse and adult
violence (war, cop). He had more difficulty with the latter.
I believe trauma-related disorders run on a spectrum. What most folks
readily identify as PTSD describes my ex's experience; intense
flashbacks of specific scenes (he had a recurring one involving
gunfire and helicopters). He'd scream and hide under tables. I
constantly feel as if I'm being held hostage, subject to severe
punishment if I disobey -- which was my childhood experience. What
I've seen in others, and experienced briefly, is personality
fragmentation or DID. There's many shades of gray.
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: I thought it was safer to stay alone.[long] |
02 Jun 2006 03:06:27 PM |
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have you considered posting in alt.abuse.recovery in addition to here? it's
a quiet group at the moment, but there are some great people there, some
mostly in lurk mode these days, whom i'm sure you'd enjoy meeting and vice
versa. your ptsd-related issues (the counterproductive self-isolation being
one) might draw more focused conversation and understanding there. a LOT of
us with this problem have done and do variations on what you describe.
btw, that therapist who started throwing stuff around the room during your
session should be reported to the organization that licensed her. imho.
"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
news:2hu08252qlfea87ekm205vl4bfjt315j27@4ax.com...
After my divorce five years ago,after losing nearly every material
thing for the third time in my life, I went through a period where my
anger was out-of-control. Proper meds and meditation restored
civility, but I remained bitter and overly defensive.
<snip>
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| User: "" |
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02 Jun 2006 07:25:45 PM |
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:06:27 -0400, "cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote:
->have you considered posting in alt.abuse.recovery in addition to here? it's
->a quiet group at the moment, but there are some great people there, some
->mostly in lurk mode these days, whom i'm sure you'd enjoy meeting and vice
->versa. your ptsd-related issues (the counterproductive self-isolation being
->one) might draw more focused conversation and understanding there. a LOT of
->us with this problem have done and do variations on what you describe.
I'll take a look, thanks.
->btw, that therapist who started throwing stuff around the room during your
->session should be reported to the organization that licensed her. imho.
The best I could do was a formal complaint with Medicare. They
examined the case and only had her charting to go on. The day she
received notice of the complaint, she called (against the rules) and
left a bitchy voice mail along the lines of "try and threaten me, you
won't get away with it". I reported the phone call immediately. She
probably altered the charts to cover her *****. There was no way to
prove she drove several people out of the program, just in the time I
was there. Medicare acknowledged there was a problem but could find no
concrete evidence to censure her. However, that day program has many
Medicare clients. They're tough with utilization review as it is; a
complaint, reprimand or not, meant she'd receive extra scrutiny
afterward. I haven't bothered to find out if she was fired, quit or
flipped out yet. The rest of the program was great, and if she were
gone, I wouldn't hesitate to return.
Some days it was hard to tell who was in therapy, she or us. Despite
having an outside therapist of her own, we often had to listen to her
issues, such as her mother's recent death, loneliness and inability to
keep partners (she's gay, incidental). When she didn't "feel like"
conducting group sessions, she showed old tapes of Oprah and Dr. Phil.
It's not unusual to use occasional tapes of TV shows in a day program
to inspire discussion, but she did it constantly. I told her once, "if
I want therapy from Oprah and Dr. Phil, I'll set my VCR to tape their
shows and save Medicare what they're paying for me to be here."
I've had many therapists since I was sixteen. Most were OK, some were
outstanding and a handful were bad. The bad ones were easy to walk
away from, no harm done. They sure as hell never threw anything at me!
She was the worst I'd ever seen. Makes me wonder how the hell she got
a Master's degree.
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:52:21 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->ride your bike
Too hot now, most of the time. Seroquel and Florida summer don't mix.
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:52:21 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->ride your bike
Too hot now, most of the time. Seroquel and Florida summer don't mix.
ride your bike
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:52:10 GMT, notchimera<dont@bother.com> wrote:
After my divorce five years ago,after losing nearly every material
thing for the third time in my life, I went through a period where my
anger was out-of-control. Proper meds and meditation restored
civility, but I remained bitter and overly defensive.
I went to therapy and shared my thoughts with people who understood,
or so I thought. From every quarter, I was pushed to do things I was
not emotionally prepared to do at the time, and when I resisted, I was
either pushed harder or picked apart. This isn't a "wah-wah poor
persecuted me" statement; I'm attempting to say the experiences did
more harm than good. I became fearful in ways I had not been before. I
withdrew more, building a cage around myself, believing I had to do
everything on my own. I stopped crying and being suicidal after a
while, then the shock of wondering "why all the harshness?" wore off,
and it left me determined to isolate.
Isolation did not mean "giving up". I live in a building that I hate.
While my apartment itself is comfortable, I face harassment and
hundreds of people who've given up on life every time I step outside.
That's their problem, I said. They can sit here and rot if they like.
I'm going to use this as an opportunity to get the formal education
I've always wanted. Then I'm going to work, and I'll leave here, and
they can stay stuck.
And I tried to get that education, twice. First, in 2001, I entered a
nurse-assistant program, hoping to work part-time while pursuing an
LPN-to-RN track. But at the end of training, I began having violent
flashbacks of being my grandmother's forced caretaker. When the first
one occurred, I hoped it was an aberration and returned to class the
next day. A second intrusive vision happened, same subject, more vivid
and violent. I then knew I would not be safe to care for patients. I'd
never forgive myself if I mistook an innocent patient for that cruel,
selfish, demanding woman I was stuck with. But I grew up in a family
of nurses and love the medical field. I retreated, not by giving up
but simply wondering what I could do next.
Leaving the program brought harsh judgement, again, from people I
thought might understand. Although the financial loss was minimal and
half my tuition was refunded, State Vocational Rehabilitation won't
return any of my phone calls. I've gone to their office couple of
times, only to hear "you can get a job on your own, you don't need
us." Eh... I haven't held a job since 2000. I'm disabled. It's in your
freakin' service description to help people like me, including if a
career or training choice does not prove to be a good fit.
Last year I decided to skip all supposed "helping" agencies by
registering for college. Two years and I'd have a certificate to work
in the medical field, an office position, no caretaking and
(hopefully) no flashbacks. A couple of weeks before I was to begin
classes, I began having constant migraines and flashbacks. A week
before, I experienced recurring nightmares that continued into waking
hours as hallucinations.. they were horrible, being surrounded by dead
things at every turn, I could even _smell_ them. My therapist at the
time acknowledged the severity. I withdrew from classes, hoping I'd
find a way to address what's so fucking wrong inside my head that I
cannot better myself.
I sunk into despair again after withdrawing from school, something I
badly wanted to do, even was excited about. How much more will this
illness take from me, I wondered. Then, one night, after a
conversation with a devoutly spiritual person in my building, I was
inspired to use a talent that is not often subject to PTSD reactions.
I completed the first draft of a novel and began the sequel. For the
last year, I've spent most of my time revising and forming them into
readable, interesting stories. It was totally enjoyable, and for once,
I got support instead of harsh criticism.
About a month ago, I asked myself what happened to the road-cycling
routine I used to love. Too many long nights at the keyboard, I said.
Get back out there and find the joy you knew a few years ago, fifteen
miles every other day, the peace of moving meditation and added
benefit of mood control. And I did. It's been a while, so the rides
were ten miles, stopping to rest until my body gained strength and
endurance again. I was getting back in shape, fast.
I could not anticipate what happened next. One morning I was riding
happily through a quiet residential neighborhood and was cast into
despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge. Why? People coming
and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their gardens.
Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world, the place I've longed so desperately to be part of,
barred by mental illness and being born into an unfortunate situation.
I made a bad decision five years ago. Sealing myself off and relying
entirely on my own incentive, attempting to pursue a better life
without fear of insults, pushing and criticism -- it's been a
miserable failure. Maybe a hardy few make successes of themselves in
isolation, but I am not one of them.
I am disconnected from everyone except those I talk to from a
distance, on this computer, and in my recent pain I've withdrawn even
from them. I refuse to give up, my abusers win if I do. But in many
ways, I do not know how to connect to anyone face-to-face any more.
Mostly, I fear reaching out for support again. There isn't a choice,
my emotional state is disintegrating, I have to try. How much more
criticism will I have to bear along the way? Only time will tell.
What I really need is compassion. Not enabling, not babying, love and
compassion. That's what I was looking for five years ago, and instead
found (mostly offline) an atmosphere which was exactly how my family
treated me. I expect to be shoved around by folks in the mainstream,
but in a goddamed therapy group? Ever had a therapist flip out on you
because she was a control freak who needed more therapy than all the
group members combined? She grabbed an industrial-sized box of tissues
and withdrew the smaller boxes inside, one by one, to throw them
around the room. Then she started throwing them AT ME. Because I
wouldn't do exactly what she wanted me to do, things I had repeatedly
stated were beyond my capabilities. If one of those boxes had struck
me, I'd probably be in prison right now. My mother used to throw
shoes, thick-soled nurse's shoes, and whenever one hit me, I hit her
back. Hard. That reflex remains. I don't want to be rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with self-defense -- unless you're a psych patient.
I'm strong in many ways, independent in others, intelligent in more.
But I am deeply wounded, I have no outside support and two very real
illnesses that interfere with my ability to function. I don't expect
to meet the standards of those who are not similarly impaired... one
day I hope to understand why I've been expected to perform at that
level.
The writing has gone by the wayside as the error of my isolative
decision has become clear. I am stressed to the breaking point over
financial matters, monthly costs rising beyond my ability to keep up
with them, and I'm getting all the entitlement support a disabled
person can get. Everything else has to wait. I have to address this
first. I HAVE to make more money, not much, but enough to no longer
lay awake at night wondering how much longer I can afford to stay
alive. I need help to get there. I need to have some support when the
nasty symptoms of my illnesses interfere.
All the while, there's a childish voice echoing in my head, the same
one who spoke in real-time many years ago... why can't someone help
me? Why can't someone care about me? I'm not bad, I want to do better,
I don't want to be this way (emotionally disturbed), please, someone
help me do better. Attention? What do you mean I just want attention?
I just want to be loved.
I can't give up, I simply can't. When will I finally find assistance
actually _helps_ me? I still believe I can do better, but I can't do
it alone. I'm going to seek help again, but I'm so fearful that I'm
having panic attacks every day. Will I find assistance, understanding,
guidance, tolerance of setbacks -- or more cruelty? Because if that's
the case, all I need is my own mind. I can destroy myself without
anyone's "help".
I really feel for you Claudia. I think these people can help you. Read
about it and see what you think. I know they have helped thousands
before you. It's a very good idea and an excellent organisation.
http://www.iccd.org/ClubhouseDirectory.aspx
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yuluwirri
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Fish know.
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yuluwirri@hotmail.com
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:57:12 GMT, yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com>
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->I really feel for you Claudia. I think these people can help you. Read
->about it and see what you think. I know they have helped thousands
->before you. It's a very good idea and an excellent organisation.
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->http://www.iccd.org/ClubhouseDirectory.aspx
There is one near me by bus. Haven't heard much about it but its name.
Worth a shot... Thank you.
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:57:12 GMT, yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com>
wrote:
->I really feel for you Claudia. I think these people can help you. Read
->about it and see what you think. I know they have helped thousands
->before you. It's a very good idea and an excellent organisation.
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->http://www.iccd.org/ClubhouseDirectory.aspx
There is one near me by bus. Haven't heard much about it but its name.
Worth a shot... Thank you.
I'd never heard of this organization and
just spent some time on the website.
Sounds like a solid community asset.
Well, at least online, they do. If you
do check it out, I'd be really
interested in hearing about it. Please
take care, Claudia. I don't know how to
respond but I'm reading every word.
Gayle
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:29:26 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
->I'd never heard of this organization and
->just spent some time on the website.
->Sounds like a solid community asset.
->Well, at least online, they do. If you
->do check it out, I'd be really
->interested in hearing about it. Please
->take care, Claudia. I don't know how to
->respond but I'm reading every word.
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->Gayle
Don't worry about responding. There aren't always things to say when I
speak. Knowing you're reading is support enough.
Like yourself, I read the description of the Clubhouse model and was
impressed -- especially at its spread throughout the world in a
relatively short time. That means it has something going for it.
There's something I may have to do next week that will cause a delay,
but I'll take a trip over there and check it out. I need to see if it
isn't a big co-dependent whine-fest, as mental health groups around
here tend to be.
Any organization is only as effective as the determination of its
members. It's hard to find ANYONE in my area of Florida who takes
anything seriously. Oh, there's folks who have families and careers
and stable lives. The retirees, mostly, are active and involved.
They're the exception, not the rule. I've never seen such pervasive
entitlement attitude and laziness anywhere else, even in Southern
California, where I expected it by reputation. I have to leave here
someday. Forget the heat, hurricanes, insane traffic and
overly-inflated housing market. I need to live somewhere where
fishing, drinking, complaining and being STUPID are not major
pastimes.
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notchimera wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:29:26 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
->I'd never heard of this organization and
->just spent some time on the website.
->Sounds like a solid community asset.
->Well, at least online, they do. If you
->do check it out, I'd be really
->interested in hearing about it. Please
->take care, Claudia. I don't know how to
->respond but I'm reading every word.
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->Gayle
Don't worry about responding. There aren't always things to say when I
speak. Knowing you're reading is support enough.
Like yourself, I read the description of the Clubhouse model and was
impressed -- especially at its spread throughout the world in a
relatively short time. That means it has something going for it.
There's something I may have to do next week that will cause a delay,
but I'll take a trip over there and check it out. I need to see if it
isn't a big co-dependent whine-fest, as mental health groups around
here tend to be.
Their Transitional Employment Program
seems like it could provide the
structure to inhibit, at least, an
ongoing whine-fest. However, most
workplaces are huge whine-fests, imo, so
I don't know where folks go to avoid
them, ultimately. I read a study that
posited that, in a 'healthy' workplace,
folks spent 20% of their time
complaining about their boss(es),
customers, and co-workers. I kinda
believe it and think it's sad and scary.
Gayle
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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notchimera wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:29:26 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
->I'd never heard of this organization and
->just spent some time on the website.
->Sounds like a solid community asset.
->Well, at least online, they do. If you
->do check it out, I'd be really
->interested in hearing about it. Please
->take care, Claudia. I don't know how to
->respond but I'm reading every word.
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->Gayle
Don't worry about responding. There aren't always things to say when I
speak. Knowing you're reading is support enough.
Like yourself, I read the description of the Clubhouse model and was
impressed -- especially at its spread throughout the world in a
relatively short time. That means it has something going for it.
There's something I may have to do next week that will cause a delay,
but I'll take a trip over there and check it out. I need to see if it
isn't a big co-dependent whine-fest, as mental health groups around
here tend to be.
Their Transitional Employment Program
seems like it could provide the
structure to inhibit, at least, an
ongoing whine-fest. However, most
workplaces are huge whine-fests, imo, so
I don't know where folks go to avoid
them, ultimately. I read a study that
posited that, in a 'healthy' workplace,
folks spent 20% of their time
complaining about their boss(es),
customers, and co-workers. I kinda
believe it and think it's sad and scary.
20%? i'm far too busy for that. on the job, i learn German, take naps,
drink coffee, play Tetris, and hit on vulnerable women. 7 tips for
successful people, you must have *priorities*.
Gravity
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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notchimera wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 21:29:26 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
->I'd never heard of this organization and
->just spent some time on the website.
->Sounds like a solid community asset.
->Well, at least online, they do. If you
->do check it out, I'd be really
->interested in hearing about it. Please
->take care, Claudia. I don't know how to
->respond but I'm reading every word.
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->Gayle
Don't worry about responding. There aren't always things to say when I
speak. Knowing you're reading is support enough.
Like yourself, I read the description of the Clubhouse model and was
impressed -- especially at its spread throughout the world in a
relatively short time. That means it has something going for it.
There's something I may have to do next week that will cause a delay,
but I'll take a trip over there and check it out. I need to see if it
isn't a big co-dependent whine-fest, as mental health groups around
here tend to be.
Their Transitional Employment Program
seems like it could provide the
structure to inhibit, at least, an
ongoing whine-fest. However, most
workplaces are huge whine-fests, imo, so
I don't know where folks go to avoid
them, ultimately. I read a study that
posited that, in a 'healthy' workplace,
folks spent 20% of their time
complaining about their boss(es),
customers, and co-workers. I kinda
believe it and think it's sad and scary.
Gayle
states often have vocational rehab programs. i'm not sure of the details,
but if you have chronic depression or bipolar, you can probably get training
and placement.
Gravity
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 09:11:50 -0400, Gayle <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote:
->Their Transitional Employment Program
->seems like it could provide the
->structure to inhibit, at least, an
->ongoing whine-fest. However, most
->workplaces are huge whine-fests, imo, so
->I don't know where folks go to avoid
->them, ultimately. I read a study that
->posited that, in a 'healthy' workplace,
->folks spent 20% of their time
->complaining about their boss(es),
->customers, and co-workers. I kinda
->believe it and think it's sad and scary.
I can tolerate people whining about work, bosses, customers and the
like. Annoying, yes, but it's engaged with reality, with action. What
I cannot abide is the brand of whining some MI's engage in -- "I'm
helpless, I'm allowed to be immature and irresponsible due to my
illness, I won't be proactive in my own recovery, I deserve to be
taken care of", etc.. Such types will go to great lengths to attach to
those who are being proactive.
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:56:45 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->ride ... your bike
I ride it all the time on errands, such as today. Much longer in this
heat and I get sick. I go out in the evening if it isn't raining,
which is often in summer.
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:56:45 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->ride ... your bike
I ride it all the time on errands, such as today. Much longer in this
heat and I get sick. I go out in the evening if it isn't raining,
which is often in summer.
ride your bike
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02 Jun 2006 08:41:22 PM |
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:16:28 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->ride your bike
Change that tune, dude, or I'm gonna smack you with my road wrench. :P
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"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:16:28 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->ride your bike
Change that tune, dude, or I'm gonna smack you with my road wrench. :P
ok then , lets have naughty time
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 00:53:36 GMT, notchimera<dont@bother.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 20:57:12 GMT, yuluwirri <yuluwirri@hotmail.com>
wrote:
->I really feel for you Claudia. I think these people can help you. Read
->about it and see what you think. I know they have helped thousands
->before you. It's a very good idea and an excellent organisation.
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->http://www.iccd.org/ClubhouseDirectory.aspx
There is one near me by bus. Haven't heard much about it but its name.
Worth a shot... Thank you.
Email me if you'd like more information. I've been to the one here in
Oz.
G xox
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yuluwirri
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Fish know.
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yuluwirri@hotmail.com
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Sorry for the top post, but I didn't want to intrude on the text below....
I'm sorry Claudia. I'm reading. I'm trying to understand. I feel very sad
for you. I hope you find the support and nurturing you deserve so much.
Kylie
"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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After my divorce five years ago,after losing nearly every material
thing for the third time in my life, I went through a period where my
anger was out-of-control. Proper meds and meditation restored
civility, but I remained bitter and overly defensive.
I went to therapy and shared my thoughts with people who understood,
or so I thought. From every quarter, I was pushed to do things I was
not emotionally prepared to do at the time, and when I resisted, I was
either pushed harder or picked apart. This isn't a "wah-wah poor
persecuted me" statement; I'm attempting to say the experiences did
more harm than good. I became fearful in ways I had not been before. I
withdrew more, building a cage around myself, believing I had to do
everything on my own. I stopped crying and being suicidal after a
while, then the shock of wondering "why all the harshness?" wore off,
and it left me determined to isolate.
Isolation did not mean "giving up". I live in a building that I hate.
While my apartment itself is comfortable, I face harassment and
hundreds of people who've given up on life every time I step outside.
That's their problem, I said. They can sit here and rot if they like.
I'm going to use this as an opportunity to get the formal education
I've always wanted. Then I'm going to work, and I'll leave here, and
they can stay stuck.
And I tried to get that education, twice. First, in 2001, I entered a
nurse-assistant program, hoping to work part-time while pursuing an
LPN-to-RN track. But at the end of training, I began having violent
flashbacks of being my grandmother's forced caretaker. When the first
one occurred, I hoped it was an aberration and returned to class the
next day. A second intrusive vision happened, same subject, more vivid
and violent. I then knew I would not be safe to care for patients. I'd
never forgive myself if I mistook an innocent patient for that cruel,
selfish, demanding woman I was stuck with. But I grew up in a family
of nurses and love the medical field. I retreated, not by giving up
but simply wondering what I could do next.
Leaving the program brought harsh judgement, again, from people I
thought might understand. Although the financial loss was minimal and
half my tuition was refunded, State Vocational Rehabilitation won't
return any of my phone calls. I've gone to their office couple of
times, only to hear "you can get a job on your own, you don't need
us." Eh... I haven't held a job since 2000. I'm disabled. It's in your
freakin' service description to help people like me, including if a
career or training choice does not prove to be a good fit.
Last year I decided to skip all supposed "helping" agencies by
registering for college. Two years and I'd have a certificate to work
in the medical field, an office position, no caretaking and
(hopefully) no flashbacks. A couple of weeks before I was to begin
classes, I began having constant migraines and flashbacks. A week
before, I experienced recurring nightmares that continued into waking
hours as hallucinations.. they were horrible, being surrounded by dead
things at every turn, I could even _smell_ them. My therapist at the
time acknowledged the severity. I withdrew from classes, hoping I'd
find a way to address what's so fucking wrong inside my head that I
cannot better myself.
I sunk into despair again after withdrawing from school, something I
badly wanted to do, even was excited about. How much more will this
illness take from me, I wondered. Then, one night, after a
conversation with a devoutly spiritual person in my building, I was
inspired to use a talent that is not often subject to PTSD reactions.
I completed the first draft of a novel and began the sequel. For the
last year, I've spent most of my time revising and forming them into
readable, interesting stories. It was totally enjoyable, and for once,
I got support instead of harsh criticism.
About a month ago, I asked myself what happened to the road-cycling
routine I used to love. Too many long nights at the keyboard, I said.
Get back out there and find the joy you knew a few years ago, fifteen
miles every other day, the peace of moving meditation and added
benefit of mood control. And I did. It's been a while, so the rides
were ten miles, stopping to rest until my body gained strength and
endurance again. I was getting back in shape, fast.
I could not anticipate what happened next. One morning I was riding
happily through a quiet residential neighborhood and was cast into
despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge. Why? People coming
and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their gardens.
Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world, the place I've longed so desperately to be part of,
barred by mental illness and being born into an unfortunate situation.
I made a bad decision five years ago. Sealing myself off and relying
entirely on my own incentive, attempting to pursue a better life
without fear of insults, pushing and criticism -- it's been a
miserable failure. Maybe a hardy few make successes of themselves in
isolation, but I am not one of them.
I am disconnected from everyone except those I talk to from a
distance, on this computer, and in my recent pain I've withdrawn even
from them. I refuse to give up, my abusers win if I do. But in many
ways, I do not know how to connect to anyone face-to-face any more.
Mostly, I fear reaching out for support again. There isn't a choice,
my emotional state is disintegrating, I have to try. How much more
criticism will I have to bear along the way? Only time will tell.
What I really need is compassion. Not enabling, not babying, love and
compassion. That's what I was looking for five years ago, and instead
found (mostly offline) an atmosphere which was exactly how my family
treated me. I expect to be shoved around by folks in the mainstream,
but in a goddamed therapy group? Ever had a therapist flip out on you
because she was a control freak who needed more therapy than all the
group members combined? She grabbed an industrial-sized box of tissues
and withdrew the smaller boxes inside, one by one, to throw them
around the room. Then she started throwing them AT ME. Because I
wouldn't do exactly what she wanted me to do, things I had repeatedly
stated were beyond my capabilities. If one of those boxes had struck
me, I'd probably be in prison right now. My mother used to throw
shoes, thick-soled nurse's shoes, and whenever one hit me, I hit her
back. Hard. That reflex remains. I don't want to be rid of it. There's
nothing wrong with self-defense -- unless you're a psych patient.
I'm strong in many ways, independent in others, intelligent in more.
But I am deeply wounded, I have no outside support and two very real
illnesses that interfere with my ability to function. I don't expect
to meet the standards of those who are not similarly impaired... one
day I hope to understand why I've been expected to perform at that
level.
The writing has gone by the wayside as the error of my isolative
decision has become clear. I am stressed to the breaking point over
financial matters, monthly costs rising beyond my ability to keep up
with them, and I'm getting all the entitlement support a disabled
person can get. Everything else has to wait. I have to address this
first. I HAVE to make more money, not much, but enough to no longer
lay awake at night wondering how much longer I can afford to stay
alive. I need help to get there. I need to have some support when the
nasty symptoms of my illnesses interfere.
All the while, there's a childish voice echoing in my head, the same
one who spoke in real-time many years ago... why can't someone help
me? Why can't someone care about me? I'm not bad, I want to do better,
I don't want to be this way (emotionally disturbed), please, someone
help me do better. Attention? What do you mean I just want attention?
I just want to be loved.
I can't give up, I simply can't. When will I finally find assistance
actually _helps_ me? I still believe I can do better, but I can't do
it alone. I'm going to seek help again, but I'm so fearful that I'm
having panic attacks every day. Will I find assistance, understanding,
guidance, tolerance of setbacks -- or more cruelty? Because if that's
the case, all I need is my own mind. I can destroy myself without
anyone's "help".
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On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 16:16:20 +1000, "mighty mouse"
<kye_99@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
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->I'm sorry Claudia. I'm reading. I'm trying to understand. I feel very sad
->for you. I hope you find the support and nurturing you deserve so much.
I'm not sure about "deserving" anything. We get what we get in life,
including what we strive for or don't act upon. I know what I want to
make happen so I can have a better quality of life.
Thanks, Kylie.
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02 Jun 2006 07:56:34 PM |
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notchimera wrote:
"One morning I was riding happily through a quiet residential neighborhood
and was cast into despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge. Why?
People coming and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their
gardens. Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world"
This I totally, complete relate to.... as my name goes... I know the joy and
despair from walking or riding through neighborhoods. seeing all the happy
people, or at least seemingly happy people is very difficult. but I love
riding through the suburbs on my cycle, I love seeing the houses & trees
rush by against the sky. it's an awesome thing. but when I see people
living seemingly awesome lives, i fall into despair and sadness, sometimes.
Im sorry for all of the other hell you've been through. wish all of it would
have never happened to you. I hate this about life. i just hate it. the
bad things are SO bad. I'm not even talking about abuse, just everyday
unfortunate sad unhappy stuff. i cant even imagine abuse i havent been
through it. or PTSD, sorry I don't have many more words. i'm clinging to
the good things as though they were a thread. its all that keeps me around i
guess.
I hope things get better. (that sounds so worthless of me, just a generic
"hope you feel better"...arghhh)
sorry.
It's cool you're writing 2 books. i hope they get published and you're a New
York Times best-seller and make a shitload of money so you can do whatever
you want and go where ever you want and be free.
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02 Jun 2006 07:57:23 PM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:675gg.126329$F_3.4266@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
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notchimera wrote:
"One morning I was riding happily through a quiet residential
neighborhood
and was cast into despair again, one from which I have yet to emerge.
Why?
People coming and going from their houses. Senior ladies tending to their
gardens. Kids walking dogs. Folks doing various jobs. The mainstream, the
regular world"
This I totally, complete relate to.... as my name goes... I know the joy
and
despair from walking or riding through neighborhoods. seeing all the
happy
people, or at least seemingly happy people is very difficult. but I love
riding through the suburbs on my cycle, I love seeing the houses & trees
rush by against the sky. it's an awesome thing. but when I see people
living seemingly awesome lives, i fall into despair and sadness,
sometimes.
Im sorry for all of the other hell you've been through. wish all of it
would
have never happened to you. I hate this about life. i just hate it. the
bad things are SO bad. I'm not even talking about abuse, just everyday
unfortunate sad unhappy stuff. i cant even imagine abuse i havent been
through it. or PTSD, sorry I don't have many more words. i'm clinging to
the good things as though they were a thread. its all that keeps me around
i
guess.
I hope things get better. (that sounds so worthless of me, just a generic
"hope you feel better"...arghhh)
sorry.
It's cool you're writing 2 books. i hope they get published and you're a
New
York Times best-seller and make a shitload of money so you can do whatever
you want and go where ever you want and be free.
send her your toilet jpeg , she'll feel beeter then
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03 Jun 2006 03:15:41 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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send her your toilet jpeg , she'll feel beeter then
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8456/hiyapercent2et.jpg
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03 Jun 2006 04:09:53 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:15:41 GMT, "aaron from suburbia"
<suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote:
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->"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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-> send her your toilet jpeg , she'll feel beeter then
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->http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8456/hiyapercent2et.jpg
Make the most noise, get the most notice.
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03 Jun 2006 03:44:45 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:15:41 GMT, "aaron from suburbia"
<suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote:
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:qPGdnUhi7_83Qx3ZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
send her your toilet jpeg , she'll feel beeter then
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8456/hiyapercent2et.jpg
Don't think he'll mosy over to her computer for this one.
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