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User: "%"
Date: 28 Mar 2006 02:27:00 PM
Object: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY
on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it
.

User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 02:38:10 PM
% wrote...

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it

my father's depressed, my brother's depressed, my aunt and uncle
are depressed, my cousin is bipolar, as was my grandmother. and
they just figured this out, that depression is genetic, not only
bipolar disorder (which they've known for a long time).
-lisa
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:15:12 PM
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote...

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


my father's depressed, my brother's depressed, my aunt and uncle
are depressed, my cousin is bipolar, as was my grandmother. and
they just figured this out, that depression is genetic, not only
bipolar disorder (which they've known for a long time).

-lisa

well i don't know how long they've known ,
i only saw what they said today
.


User: "used2be"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:10:17 PM
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it

it's the gift that keeps on giving...
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:16:13 PM
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...

i'll just keep it in my jeans



.
User: "used2be"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:21:31 PM
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


i'll just keep it in my jeans

well, that's just where it probably belongs.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:30:37 PM
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


i'll just keep it in my jeans


well, that's just where it probably belongs.

i can't type where i think it belongs or someone ,

will take offense to what i said and expect ,
500 i'm sorry's over the next 2 days
.
User: "used2be"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 29 Mar 2006 03:48:22 PM
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


i'll just keep it in my jeans


well, that's just where it probably belongs.

i can't type where i think it belongs or someone ,

will take offense to what i said and expect ,
500 i'm sorry's over the next 2 days

i'm sorry...
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 29 Mar 2006 03:52:31 PM
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


i'll just keep it in my jeans


well, that's just where it probably belongs.

i can't type where i think it belongs or someone ,

will take offense to what i said and expect ,
500 i'm sorry's over the next 2 days


i'm sorry...

me too

.
User: "Bacon"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 29 Mar 2006 04:35:57 PM
On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:52:31 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:


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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


i'll just keep it in my jeans


well, that's just where it probably belongs.

i can't type where i think it belongs or someone ,

will take offense to what i said and expect ,
500 i'm sorry's over the next 2 days


i'm sorry...

me too

offering my sincere apologies
.






User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:29:53 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:10:17 +0000, used2be wrote:

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...

The gift that keeps on taking.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:33:02 PM
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:10:17 +0000, used2be wrote:


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:FJ6dncuuzIpnBrTZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com...

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


The gift that keeps on taking.

--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.

there now we have a stable balance
.
User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:37:40 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:33:02 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:10:17 +0000, used2be wrote:


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


The gift that keeps on taking.


there now we have a stable balance

I feel much better.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:44:19 PM
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:33:02 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:10:17 +0000, used2be wrote:


"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:FJ6dncuuzIpnBrTZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@giganews.com...

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


it's the gift that keeps on giving...


The gift that keeps on taking.


there now we have a stable balance


I feel much better.

--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.

yes i see the twinkle has returned to your eyes too
.

User: "J K"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:41:54 PM
I'd like to trade it in for some cash!
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 04:03:48 PM
"J K" <Jeff2612@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I'd like to trade it in for some cash!

put it up for bid on e-bay
.






User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 02:38:58 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it

I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:15:33 PM
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.

--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.

did someone say you did
.
User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:29:00 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:15:33 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


did someone say you did

No, did someone say I said they did?
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:32:12 PM
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:15:33 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


did someone say you did


No, did someone say I said they did?

--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.

yea , you did


.
User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:37:09 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:32:12 -0700, % wrote:

"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:15:33 -0700, % wrote:

"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.03.28.20.38.58.823352@you.now...

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


did someone say you did


No, did someone say I said they did?


yea , you did

I assure you I didn't.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:43:44 PM
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:32:12 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:15:33 -0700, % wrote:

"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.03.28.20.38.58.823352@you.now...

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


did someone say you did


No, did someone say I said they did?


yea , you did


I assure you I didn't.

--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.

it doesn't matter to me one way or the other


.
User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 03:48:30 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:43:44 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:32:12 -0700, % wrote:


"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:15:33 -0700, % wrote:

"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.03.28.20.38.58.823352@you.now...

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


did someone say you did


No, did someone say I said they did?


yea , you did


I assure you I didn't.

it doesn't matter to me one way or the other

I'll take "the other" for $400 Alex.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.






User: "Franz Bestuchev"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 08:22:59 PM
Ivan Marsh wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.

You needed %?
.
User: "Ivan Marsh"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 29 Mar 2006 10:06:19 AM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:59 -0700, Franz Bestuchev wrote:

Ivan Marsh wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


You needed %?

Doesn't everyone?
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 29 Mar 2006 10:09:02 AM
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:22:59 -0700, Franz Bestuchev wrote:

Ivan Marsh wrote:

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, % wrote:

on how depression can be inherited ,
so some people just get the gift ,
even if they do everything to not get it


I didn't need a documentary to tell me that.


You needed %?


Doesn't everyone?

--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.

yes


.




User: ""

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 04:19:32 PM
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:
->on how depression can be inherited ,
->so some people just get the gift ,
->even if they do everything to not get it
I'm relatively sure that's where mine came from. I grew up with
people who were abused far worse than I was and they skipped this
mess. My (half) sisters, abused worse than me, did not end up
depressed. As an adult, I looked back and saw it in both parents'
lines. When I went for treatment at sixteen, their rejection was
harsh. I had to fight to stay in treatment. Little did I know I'd
opened up generations of secrets, the melancholy all wanted to hide.
IMO, genetic and stem-cell research may hold the keys to more viable
treatment of mood disorders. I hope I see it in my lifetime. I just
saw my med doc.. These damned Medicare Part D co-pays are going to
drive me to starvation -- even with Medicaid help! If my writing
doesn't succeed, I may have to give in and become someone's fucking
House Girl again, just to afford to live. NO OFFERS, I'm fighting it
until the end.
--
Act as if your wishes were already reality, believe as if dreams have
already come true. Sometimes faith is all.
-- yours truly
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 04:36:12 PM
"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, "%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote:

->on how depression can be inherited ,
->so some people just get the gift ,
->even if they do everything to not get it

I'm relatively sure that's where mine came from. I grew up with
people who were abused far worse than I was and they skipped this
mess. My (half) sisters, abused worse than me, did not end up
depressed. As an adult, I looked back and saw it in both parents'
lines. When I went for treatment at sixteen, their rejection was
harsh. I had to fight to stay in treatment. Little did I know I'd
opened up generations of secrets, the melancholy all wanted to hide.

IMO, genetic and stem-cell research may hold the keys to more viable
treatment of mood disorders. I hope I see it in my lifetime. I just
saw my med doc.. These damned Medicare Part D co-pays are going to
drive me to starvation -- even with Medicaid help! If my writing
doesn't succeed, I may have to give in and become someone's fucking
House Girl again, just to afford to live. NO OFFERS, I'm fighting it
until the end.

--
Act as if your wishes were already reality, believe as if dreams have
already come true. Sometimes faith is all.
-- yours truly

yea , I'm starting to think ,
a lot more gets handed down to us ,
then just our great looks , I won't say all ,
but I will say 90 % of all males ,
related to my fathers side are alcoholic ,
or at least drink more than the government suggested safe amount ,
another little goodie that gets handed down ,
i use to think what i've been makes me what i am ,
now i'm thinking what they were is what i get
.
User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 10:17:29 PM
% wrote...


"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, "%"
<persent@gmail.com> wrote:

->on how depression can be inherited ,
->so some people just get the gift ,
->even if they do everything to not get it

I'm relatively sure that's where mine came from. I grew
up with people who were abused far worse than I was and
they skipped this mess. My (half) sisters, abused worse
than me, did not end up depressed. As an adult, I looked
back and saw it in both parents' lines. When I went for
treatment at sixteen, their rejection was harsh. I had to
fight to stay in treatment. Little did I know I'd opened
up generations of secrets, the melancholy all wanted to
hide.

IMO, genetic and stem-cell research may hold the keys to
more viable treatment of mood disorders. I hope I see it
in my lifetime. I just saw my med doc.. These damned
Medicare Part D co-pays are going to drive me to
starvation -- even with Medicaid help! If my writing
doesn't succeed, I may have to give in and become
someone's fucking House Girl again, just to afford to
live. NO OFFERS, I'm fighting it until the end.

--
Act as if your wishes were already reality, believe as if
dreams have already come true. Sometimes faith is all.
-- yours truly



yea , I'm starting to think ,
a lot more gets handed down to us ,
then just our great looks , I won't say all ,
but I will say 90 % of all males ,
related to my fathers side are alcoholic ,
or at least drink more than the government suggested safe
amount , another little goodie that gets handed down ,
i use to think what i've been makes me what i am ,
now i'm thinking what they were is what i get

joe's family going way back are alcoholics. one of his
grandmothers died of it. his mother gave my kids pennies to
sort through in 4-liter gin bottles. now it's joe...
-lisa
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: I WAS JUST WATCHING A DOCUMENTARY 28 Mar 2006 10:21:25 PM
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote...


"notchimera" <dont@bother.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, "%"
<persent@gmail.com> wrote:

->on how depression can be inherited ,
->so some people just get the gift ,
->even if they do everything to not get it

I'm relatively sure that's where mine came from. I grew
up with people who were abused far worse than I was and
they skipped this mess. My (half) sisters, abused worse
than me, did not end up depressed. As an adult, I looked
back and saw it in both parents' lines. When I went for
treatment at sixteen, their rejection was harsh. I had to
fight to stay in treatment. Little did I know I'd opened
up generations of secrets, the melancholy all wanted to
hide.

IMO, genetic and stem-cell research may hold the keys to
more viable treatment of mood disorders. I hope I see it
in my lifetime. I just saw my med doc.. These damned
Medicare Part D co-pays are going to drive me to
starvation -- even with Medicaid help! If my writing
doesn't succeed, I may have to give in and become
someone's fucking House Girl again, just to afford to
live. NO OFFERS, I'm fighting it until the end.

--
Act as if your wishes were already reality, believe as if
dreams have already come true. Sometimes faith is all.
-- yours truly



yea , I'm starting to think ,
a lot more gets handed down to us ,
then just our great looks , I won't say all ,
but I will say 90 % of all males ,
related to my fathers side are alcoholic ,
or at least drink more than the government suggested safe
amount , another little goodie that gets handed down ,
i use to think what i've been makes me what i am ,
now i'm thinking what they were is what i get


joe's family going way back are alcoholics. one of his
grandmothers died of it. his mother gave my kids pennies to
sort through in 4-liter gin bottles. now it's joe...

-lisa

sorry to hear it , but thanks for supporting my point
.
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On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 13:27:00 -0700, "%"
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->on how depression can be inherited ,
->so some people just get the gift ,
->even if they do everything to not get it

I'm relatively sure that's where mine came from. I grew
up with people who were abused far worse than I was and
they skipped this mess. My (half) sisters, abused worse
than me, did not end up depressed. As an adult, I looked
back and saw it in both parents' lines. When I went for
treatment at sixteen, their rejection was harsh. I had to
fight to stay in treatment. Little did I know I'd opened
up generations of secrets, the melancholy all wanted to
hide.

IMO, genetic and stem-cell research may hold the keys to
more viable treatment of mood disorders. I hope I see it
in my lifetime. I just saw my med doc.. These damned
Medicare Part D co-pays are going to drive me to
starvation -- even with Medicaid help! If my writing
doesn't succeed, I may have to give in and become
someone's fucking House Girl again, just to afford to
live. NO OFFERS, I'm fighting it until the end.

--
Act as if your wishes were already reality, believe as if
dreams have already come true. Sometimes faith is all.
-- yours truly



yea , I'm starting to think ,
a lot more gets handed down to us ,
then just our great looks , I won't say all ,
but I will say 90 % of all males ,
related to my fathers side are alcoholic ,
or at least drink more than the government suggested safe
amount , another little goodie that gets handed down ,
i use to think what i've been makes me what i am ,
now i'm thinking what they were is what i get


joe's family going way back are alcoholics. one of his
grandmothers died of it. his mother gave my kids pennies to
sort through in 4-liter gin bottles. now it's joe...

-lisa


sorry to hear it , but thanks for supporting my point

when it's support it's "my point", and when it's disagreement it's "the
people on the investigative reporting program."
i didn't see the program, but i bet the two aren't the same. your
point, and the point of others who "support" it here, is that a
supposed genetic component of addiction and depression fully
predetermines, accounts for, and justifies the fact that one is an
addict and/or depressed.
it doesn't. no one has ever observed such genes. the assumption of
their existence is based entirely on statistical correlation between
families and behaviors, which no one disputes, but for which there's
always more than one explanation.
behaviorally, "what they were is what i get" may have some truth to it,
but no more so than "what they did is what i learned" and "what i do is
what i get."
as for "support", i see two kinds. one kind enables the supported
person to continue to live with self-destructive behavior at a level of
social acceptance which relieves them of the need to change. the other
kind accepts the person without accepting the behavior and is about
people helping themselves and each other to find a way out.
both can form the basis of a support community. left to their own
devices, people will tend to drift toward the first, and i see "your
point" and the support for it as an unfortunate pull in that direction.
.






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