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Impact of Helping the Poor and Needy on the Economy of a Country and Society at large...EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR PEACE OF TODAY'S UNRESTFUL WORLD... |
Peace be upon you and all.
(1) In every society, the rich and the poor, the needy and the
providers co-exist and live side-by-side. But there are people who
become entirely unmindful to the rights of others. They do not spend
an iota of their wealth that is given to them by God Almighty for the
cause of God and for needy human. This self-indulgence widens the gap
between people. It also promotes feelings of jealousy and rancor among
the poor for their wealthier relatives-------
(2) The more prosperous people are needed to be mindful of the needs
of their brothers and sisters, and any feelings of anger and dispute
should never prevent them from extending their hand in help to the
poor. Allah says: *And let not those who possess wealth and plenty
among you swear not to give aught to the kindred and to the needy and
to those who have left their homes in the cause of Allah. Let them
forgive and forbear. Do you not desire that Allah should forgive you?
And Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.* (24:23) ------
(3) Financial contributions and sacrifices result in promotion of
peace. At the time of migration of Holy Prophet ( pbuh), the Hijra,
the local-believers displayed a similar affection for their immigrant-
on-the-name-of God brethrens. Their example of helping one another set
the tone of founding a society filled with peace and harmony and the
bond created by Holy and blessed Muhammad between two Muslim brothers
was tied in love forever. This brotherhood echoed in the entire world
and caused a revolution to take place. The same sentiment should be
exhibited by the followers of the blessed Promised Messiah, who is the
obedient servant of the Prophet (pbuh), so that a new society of peace
and accord can emerge.-------
(4) Holy Caliph reminded the followers who live in the West and are
well off to be very attentive to the needs of their relatives and next
to kin. They should send gifts generously to people in the poorer
countries and to those who are less affluent. Such help should take
rise from the bottom of the hearts of the wealthy, keeping in mind the
tradition that the left hand should not come to know of the charity
that the right hand gives. They should preserve the self-esteem of the
person they are helping out. This will promote good relations and the
prayers that emerge from the hearts of those who are being helped will
help the society as a whole. -------
(5) Inflation in poor places has reached such an extent that it is
becoming very difficult for a white-collar laborer to maintain even
his simple standard of living. Hands of help should be extended to
those who are truly striving in these difficult circumstances.-------
(6) Holy Caliph gave the example of a woman who used to receive
monetary help from a relative living abroad: For some reason, the
assistance to her stopped suddenly, to the point where the family
reached conditions of starvation. That woman, one day, saw little
money lying on the floor. She first thought that she would pick it up,
but then abstained from doing so, she reminded herself that she must
not fail on this test as it was not her money and she must trust in
God. She had always taught the lesson of exhibiting patience and
steadfastness and remembrance of God in the face of adversity to her
children. When she returned, she found a visitor in her house, who
handed her an envelope full of money which used to come from abroad.
Had she not received that financial assistance, her children may have
developed feelings of hatred towards society and perhaps towards
Allah. This is the reason why Allah has drawn our attention towards
helping others; indeed this is a commandment full of wisdom.
*And in their wealth was a share for one who asked for help and for
one who could not.* (51:20)
"So give to the kinsman his due, and to the needy, and to the
wayfarer. That is best for those who seek the favor of Allah, and it
is they who will prosper. Whatever you pay as interest that it may
increase the wealth of the people, it does not increase in the sight
of Allah; but whatever you give in Zakat seeking the favor of Allah -
it is these who will increase their wealth manifold." (30:39-40)
-------
(7) If the rights of the poor and the needy and the wayfarers are not
fulfilled, then this group of people will be forced to delve into the
world of crime. This will in turn lower the peace in society and
create feelings of malice and resentment towards the wealthy. We see
that in the poor or underdeveloped nations, it is this group of
underprivileged people who come to the streets in protest and raise
their anger towards the wealthy and the resourceful and the
government. They go on strikes, break the law and create disorder.
History is a witness and such disorder results in economic downfall.
This group of people also strays away from God for not being helped
and the rich stray away from God because they do not help. Islam,
being a complete and universal religion, draws attention towards the
importance of fulfilling these rights to our fellow human beings and
it is indeed the Muslim's righteous deeds that result in a display of
Islamic values; otherwise a mere claim to Islam is meaningless. -----
(8) A Muslim is encouraged to partake in charity, he is enjoined to
give Zakat, and is reminded of the importance of giving gifts. The
blessed Holy Prophet said that a Muslim should give gifts as it
promotes love between people. The Holy Quran mentions frequently the
importance of giving Zakat, as it provides for the expenditures of the
Islamic government and fulfills the needs of the poor. The poor sector
of the society contributes greatly to the economy of the country, as
they provide labor to work in factories and toil on the land. If they
stop working, the country's economy will be greatly affected
(especially in the developing countries). -------
(9) No other religion competes with Islam in that it makes provision
for all sectors of the society. Today, there is much turmoil in the
world. Only money alone cannot provide peace. We must help the needy
out of what is given to us to gain the pleasure of Allah. We must not
regard the poor as an inferior being, but guard their self-esteem.
---------
(10) Allah Almighty draws our attention to one of the most primary
reasons why the downfall of an economy occurs, and that is "interest".
Interest in Islam is forbidden for the sole reason that it makes a
poor man even poorer. If we compare the shortcomings of participating
in interest with the advantages of giving to the poor, we see that by
spending in the way of Allah, we gain His pleasure, we promote the
establishment of peace in the society and we gain eternal paradise in
the Hereafter. Whereas, participating in interest incurs the wrath of
Allah, and one meets his ruin in this world and in the Hereafter.
Interest contributes to the destruction of peace in the society. The
poor man's condition keeps worsening, whereas the rich amass more
wealth. Interest causes money to accumulate within a group of wealthy
people and creates an abyss of debt for the poor, from which there is
no escape. -------
(11) At a recent university gathering , holy Caliph addressed a group
of people, where he mentioned that interest gives birth to a form of
slavery. Many of the attendees agreed strongly with him. Such slavery
only creates hatred and causes peace to regress. In a poor place, a
poor man is born with a debt, lives his whole life in debt, and dies
in debt, and all this due to the evil of loaning money on interest. If
people pay heed to Allah's commandments, they can save themselves from
the curse of debt. Selfishness beyond limits plays main role in the
problems of a poor country. May Allah have mercy on all countries that
are imprisoned in the pest of usury. Allah has informed us in the Holy
Quran that wealth does not increase due to interest merely because it
has incurred the wrath of God. The only way out of this curse is to
follow Allah's commandments and believe in the Holy Prophet (peace and
blessings be on him) sent by God. Helping the poor, giving Zakat and
not partaking in interest are the ways in which we can promote peace
in the society. The Holy Quran says:
*Corruption has appeared on land and sea because of what men's hands
have wrought, that He may make them taste the fruit of some of their
doings, so that they may turn back from evil.* (30:42) -------
(12) The reason why conflict takes place is due to the bad deeds in
which the society indulges itself. The source of reaching this state
is disobedience to God's teachings. Therefore, a Muslim who finds
himself in such a pitiful state is spiritually bankrupt as well. When
the condition of the world reaches such a sorry state of affairs, one
should look towards the righteous people appointed by God Almighty to
guide them out of this darkness into a state of light. -------
(13) The blessed Promised Messiah observed about the spiritual decline
of humanity in one of his exerpts that the world is thirsty for
spiritual water. It is dying without it. Everyone around is inclined
towards evil deeds. It is the need of the world for Divine Light to
descend, but very few actually benefit from this Divine light..... About
this light, his blessed Caliph says that a follower of Promised
Messiah is indeed fortunate who is blessed by the opportunity of
benefiting from this light and it is the duty of each of them to
spread this light around. Perhaps, his effort will result in saving a
group of people from annihilation. ---------
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09 Jun 2007 12:59:47 PM |
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On Jun 9, 10:29 am, LOVE4ALL-HATRED4NONE <sirajj_mun...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Peace be upon you and all.
(1) In every society, the rich and the poor, the needy and the
providers co-exist and live side-by-side. But there are people who
become entirely unmindful to the rights of others. They do not spend
an iota of their wealth that is given to them by God Almighty for the
cause of God and for needy human. This self-indulgence widens the gap
between people. It also promotes feelings of jealousy and rancor among
the poor for their wealthier relatives-------
(2) The more prosperous people are needed to be mindful of the needs
of their brothers and sisters, and any feelings of anger and dispute
should never prevent them from extending their hand in help to the
poor. Allah says: *And let not those who possess wealth and plenty
among you swear not to give aught to the kindred and to the needy and
to those who have left their homes in the cause of Allah. Let them
forgive and forbear. Do you not desire that Allah should forgive you?
And Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.* (24:23) ------
(3) Financial contributions and sacrifices result in promotion of
peace. At the time of migration of Holy Prophet ( pbuh), the Hijra,
the local-believers displayed a similar affection for their immigrant-
on-the-name-of God brethrens. Their example of helping one another set
the tone of founding a society filled with peace and harmony and the
bond created by Holy and blessed Muhammad between two Muslim brothers
was tied in love forever. This brotherhood echoed in the entire world
and caused a revolution to take place. The same sentiment should be
exhibited by the followers of the blessed Promised Messiah, who is the
obedient servant of the Prophet (pbuh), so that a new society of peace
and accord can emerge.-------
(4) Holy Caliph reminded the followers who live in the West and are
well off to be very attentive to the needs of their relatives and next
to kin. They should send gifts generously to people in the poorer
countries and to those who are less affluent. Such help should take
rise from the bottom of the hearts of the wealthy, keeping in mind the
tradition that the left hand should not come to know of the charity
that the right hand gives. They should preserve the self-esteem of the
person they are helping out. This will promote good relations and the
prayers that emerge from the hearts of those who are being helped will
help the society as a whole. -------
(5) Inflation in poor places has reached such an extent that it is
becoming very difficult for a white-collar laborer to maintain even
his simple standard of living. Hands of help should be extended to
those who are truly striving in these difficult circumstances.-------
(6) Holy Caliph gave the example of a woman who used to receive
monetary help from a relative living abroad: For some reason, the
assistance to her stopped suddenly, to the point where the family
reached conditions of starvation. That woman, one day, saw little
money lying on the floor. She first thought that she would pick it up,
but then abstained from doing so, she reminded herself that she must
not fail on this test as it was not her money and she must trust in
God. She had always taught the lesson of exhibiting patience and
steadfastness and remembrance of God in the face of adversity to her
children. When she returned, she found a visitor in her house, who
handed her an envelope full of money which used to come from abroad.
Had she not received that financial assistance, her children may have
developed feelings of hatred towards society and perhaps towards
Allah. This is the reason why Allah has drawn our attention towards
helping others; indeed this is a commandment full of wisdom.
*And in their wealth was a share for one who asked for help and for
one who could not.* (51:20)
"So give to the kinsman his due, and to the needy, and to the
wayfarer. That is best for those who seek the favor of Allah, and it
is they who will prosper. Whatever you pay as interest that it may
increase the wealth of the people, it does not increase in the sight
of Allah; but whatever you give in Zakat seeking the favor of Allah -
it is these who will increase their wealth manifold." (30:39-40)
-------
(7) If the rights of the poor and the needy and the wayfarers are not
fulfilled, then this group of people will be forced to delve into the
world of crime. This will in turn lower the peace in society and
create feelings of malice and resentment towards the wealthy. We see
that in the poor or underdeveloped nations, it is this group of
underprivileged people who come to the streets in protest and raise
their anger towards the wealthy and the resourceful and the
government. They go on strikes, break the law and create disorder.
History is a witness and such disorder results in economic downfall.
This group of people also strays away from God for not being helped
and the rich stray away from God because they do not help. Islam,
being a complete and universal religion, draws attention towards the
importance of fulfilling these rights to our fellow human beings and
it is indeed the Muslim's righteous deeds that result in a display of
Islamic values; otherwise a mere claim to Islam is meaningless. -----
(8) A Muslim is encouraged to partake in charity, he is enjoined to
give Zakat, and is reminded of the importance of giving gifts. The
blessed Holy Prophet said that a Muslim should give gifts as it
promotes love between people. The Holy Quran mentions frequently the
importance of giving Zakat, as it provides for the expenditures of the
Islamic government and fulfills the needs of the poor. The poor sector
of the society contributes greatly to the economy of the country, as
they provide labor to work in factories and toil on the land. If they
stop working, the country's economy will be greatly affected
(especially in the developing countries). -------
(9) No other religion competes with Islam in that it makes provision
for all sectors of the society. Today, there is much turmoil in the
world. Only money alone cannot provide peace. We must help the needy
out of what is given to us to gain the pleasure of Allah. We must not
regard the poor as an inferior being, but guard their self-esteem.
---------
(10) Allah Almighty draws our attention to one of the most primary
reasons why the downfall of an economy occurs, and that is "interest".
Interest in Islam is forbidden for the sole reason that it makes a
poor man even poorer. If we compare the shortcomings of participating
in interest with the advantages of giving to the poor, we see that by
spending in the way of Allah, we gain His pleasure, we promote the
establishment of peace in the society and we gain eternal paradise in
the Hereafter. Whereas, participating in interest incurs the wrath of
Allah, and one meets his ruin in this world and in the Hereafter.
Interest contributes to the destruction of peace in the society. The
poor man's condition keeps worsening, whereas the rich amass more
wealth. Interest causes money to accumulate within a group of wealthy
people and creates an abyss of debt for the poor, from which there is
no escape. -------
(11) At a recent university gathering , holy Caliph addressed a group
of people, where he mentioned that interest gives birth to a form of
slavery. Many of the attendees agreed strongly with him. Such slavery
only creates hatred and causes peace to regress. In a poor place, a
poor man is born with a debt, lives his whole life in debt, and dies
in debt, and all this due to the evil of loaning money on interest. If
people pay heed to Allah's commandments, they can save themselves from
the curse of debt. Selfishness beyond limits plays main role in the
problems of a poor country. May Allah have mercy on all countries that
are imprisoned in the pest of usury. Allah has informed us in the Holy
Quran that wealth does not increase due to interest merely because it
has incurred the wrath of God. The only way out of this curse is to
follow Allah's commandments and believe in the Holy Prophet (peace and
blessings be on him) sent by God. Helping the poor, giving Zakat and
not partaking in interest are the ways in which we can promote peace
in the society. The Holy Quran says:
*Corruption has appeared on land and sea because of what men's hands
have wrought, that He may make them taste the fruit of some of their
doings, so that they may turn back from evil.* (30:42) -------
(12) The reason why conflict takes place is due to the bad deeds in
which the society indulges itself. The source of reaching this state
is disobedience to God's teachings. Therefore, a Muslim who finds
himself in such a pitiful state is spiritually bankrupt as well. When
the condition of the world reaches such a sorry state of affairs, one
should look towards the righteous people appointed by God Almighty to
guide them out of this darkness into a state of light. -------
(13) The blessed Promised Messiah observed about the spiritual decline
of humanity in one of his exerpts that the world is thirsty for
spiritual water. It is dying without it. Everyone around is inclined
towards evil deeds. It is the need of the world for Divine Light to
descend, but very few actually benefit from this Divine light..... About
this light, his blessed Caliph says that a follower of Promised
Messiah is indeed fortunate who is blessed by the opportunity of
benefiting from this light and it is the duty of each of them to
spread this light around. Perhaps, his effort will result in saving a
group of people from annihilation. ---------
Promised divine peace of this age, for everyone of this age atwww.mta.tv=
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SUBJECTS INCLUDING THE CONCEPT OF REVELATION IN DIFFERENT
RELIGIONS,HISTORY OF PHILOSOPHY,COSMOLOGY,EXTRATERRESTRIAL LIFE, THE
FUTURE OF LIFE ON EARTH, NATURAL SELECTION, AND ITS ROLE IN EVOLUTION,
IT ALSO ELABORATELY DISCUSSES THE ADVENT OF THE MESSIAH, OR OTHER
UNIVERSAL REFORMERS, AWAITED BY DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. LIKEWISE MANY
OTHER TOPICAL ISSUES WHICH HAVE BEEN AGITATING THE HUMAN MIND SINCE
TIME IMMEMORIAL ARE ALSO INCORPORATED.
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Peace on you, and mercy from Allah, and His blessings!!
Seeing my brother as needy or poor or sick in anyway is just a subtle
way of hating him... It will keep me in hell along with him!
Robin
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11 Jun 2007 02:44:01 PM |
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On Jun 9, 11:59 am, Robin <miracle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Seeing my brother as needy or poor
or sick in anyway is just a subtle way
of hating him... It will keep me in hell
along with him!
Robin
I like this a lot, Robin.
The most beneficial way to give
is to see yourself as sharing and the
one with whom you're sharing as some-
one who "temporarily has less."
This has the added benefit (in the world)
of affirming your own abundance.
Nancy
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11 Jun 2007 03:16:50 PM |
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On Jun 11, 12:44 pm, Nancy <nancylori...@shaw.ca> wrote:
On Jun 9, 11:59 am, Robin <miracle...@gmail.com> wrote:
Seeing my brother as needy or poor
or sick in anyway is just a subtle way
of hating him... It will keep me in hell
along with him!
Robin
I like this a lot, Robin.
The most beneficial way to give
is to see yourself as sharing and the
one with whom you're sharing as some-
one who "temporarily has less."
This has the added benefit (in the world)
of affirming your own abundance.
Nancy
Yes, I can give any brother my correct vision of him, potentially he
can rise up and walk through his faith in my devotion to the sonship
through him.
Giving less than everything, or a miracle is doing nothing, the
effects of human charity ALWAYS depress, because they assume
inequality, levels and confusion. Giving my brother everything is
easy, all it requires is that I meet him where he is.
If I look outside myself and see lack I will demonstrate that I
believe in lack.
Robin
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| Title: Re: Impact of Helping the Poor and Needy on the Economy of a Country and Society at large...EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR PEACE OF TODAY'S UNRESTFUL WORLD... |
11 Jun 2007 02:32:01 PM |
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There are many kinds of poverty.
Each kind requires a distinctly different response, otherwise we do
more harm than good.
For those who are impoverished due to permanent inability to sustain
themselves, we must provide a compassionate and permanent level of
support.
For those who are momentarily impoverished due to a calamity, we must
provide a bridge of temporary help to restore to them the ability of
self-sustainment.
For others, we must analyze their circumstance, and remedy whatever
personal issues are keeping them in poverty, especially if they seem
to be foregoing many opportunities for self-sustainment. Is there a
psychological problem, substance abuse, abuse by other persons, or
simple ignorance of the skill set required to sustain oneself?
The key to it all is to "teach the man to fish," so to speak, whenever
possible, and not to relegate him to the status of permanent
dependence on others.
Unfortunately, there are political persons who regard the poor as a
source of political power, and will intentionally feed them the fruit
of another's labor, so that they can say to them, "see what I (repeat,
I, not those whose produce I have confiscated) am giving you, so vote
for me."
Such a political system creates a class of resentful donors, and pits
them against a class of ungrateful recipients who develop a sense of
entitlement.
Thus, we need to beware of the wolves who pretend to be sheep, who
express an unfelt sympathy for the poor, and who prey upon their
miserable condition.
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11 Jun 2007 02:37:15 PM |
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Go rape your wife
"Bob" <RobertArvay@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1181590321.584167.117370@u2g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
There are many kinds of poverty.
Each kind requires a distinctly different response, otherwise we do
more harm than good.
For those who are impoverished due to permanent inability to sustain
themselves, we must provide a compassionate and permanent level of
support.
For those who are momentarily impoverished due to a calamity, we must
provide a bridge of temporary help to restore to them the ability of
self-sustainment.
For others, we must analyze their circumstance, and remedy whatever
personal issues are keeping them in poverty, especially if they seem
to be foregoing many opportunities for self-sustainment. Is there a
psychological problem, substance abuse, abuse by other persons, or
simple ignorance of the skill set required to sustain oneself?
The key to it all is to "teach the man to fish," so to speak, whenever
possible, and not to relegate him to the status of permanent
dependence on others.
Unfortunately, there are political persons who regard the poor as a
source of political power, and will intentionally feed them the fruit
of another's labor, so that they can say to them, "see what I (repeat,
I, not those whose produce I have confiscated) am giving you, so vote
for me."
Such a political system creates a class of resentful donors, and pits
them against a class of ungrateful recipients who develop a sense of
entitlement.
Thus, we need to beware of the wolves who pretend to be sheep, who
express an unfelt sympathy for the poor, and who prey upon their
miserable condition.
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11 Jun 2007 02:58:04 PM |
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On Jun 11, 12:32 pm, Bob <RobertAr...@msn.com> wrote:
There are many kinds of poverty.
Each kind requires a distinctly different response, otherwise we do
more harm than good.
For those who are impoverished due to permanent inability to sustain
themselves, we must provide a compassionate and permanent level of
support.
For those who are momentarily impoverished due to a calamity, we must
provide a bridge of temporary help to restore to them the ability of
self-sustainment.
For others, we must analyze their circumstance, and remedy whatever
personal issues are keeping them in poverty, especially if they seem
to be foregoing many opportunities for self-sustainment. Is there a
psychological problem, substance abuse, abuse by other persons, or
simple ignorance of the skill set required to sustain oneself?
The key to it all is to "teach the man to fish," so to speak, whenever
possible, and not to relegate him to the status of permanent
dependence on others.
Unfortunately, there are political persons who regard the poor as a
source of political power, and will intentionally feed them the fruit
of another's labor, so that they can say to them, "see what I (repeat,
I, not those whose produce I have confiscated) am giving you, so vote
for me."
Such a political system creates a class of resentful donors, and pits
them against a class of ungrateful recipients who develop a sense of
entitlement.
Thus, we need to beware of the wolves who pretend to be sheep, who
express an unfelt sympathy for the poor, and who prey upon their
miserable condition.
Here in Mexico the poor live hand to mouth, there is charity but
services and support are visibly absent. Apparently the Catholic
Church is one of the largest contributors of cash to the Vatican. Most
of the people in the Churches are deliberatly kept ignorant, pregnant,
or working towards the next fiesta (one of the only ways the poor can
celebrate at little cost)
It is quite a temptation to try to save the world though charity
living in Mexico.
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| Title: Re: Impact of Helping the Poor and Needy on the Economy of a Country and Society at large...EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR PEACE OF TODAY'S UNRESTFUL WORLD... |
11 Jun 2007 05:51:06 PM |
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On Jun 11, 1:58 pm, Robin <miracle...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:32 pm, Bob <RobertAr...@msn.com> wrote:
There are many kinds of poverty.
Each kind requires a distinctly different response, otherwise we do
more harm than good.
For those who are impoverished due to permanent inability to sustain
themselves, we must provide a compassionate and permanent level of
support.
For those who are momentarily impoverished due to a calamity, we must
provide a bridge of temporary help to restore to them the ability of
self-sustainment.
For others, we must analyze their circumstance, and remedy whatever
personal issues are keeping them in poverty, especially if they seem
to be foregoing many opportunities for self-sustainment. Is there a
psychological problem, substance abuse, abuse by other persons, or
simple ignorance of the skill set required to sustain oneself?
The key to it all is to "teach the man to fish," so to speak, whenever
possible, and not to relegate him to the status of permanent
dependence on others.
Unfortunately, there are political persons who regard the poor as a
source of political power, and will intentionally feed them the fruit
of another's labor, so that they can say to them, "see what I (repeat,
I, not those whose produce I have confiscated) am giving you, so vote
for me."
Such a political system creates a class of resentful donors, and pits
them against a class of ungrateful recipients who develop a sense of
entitlement.
Thus, we need to beware of the wolves who pretend to be sheep, who
express an unfelt sympathy for the poor, and who prey upon their
miserable condition.
Here in Mexico the poor live hand to mouth, there is charity but
services and support are visibly absent. Apparently the Catholic
Church is one of the largest contributors of cash to the Vatican. Most
of the people in the Churches are deliberatly kept ignorant, pregnant,
or working towards the next fiesta (one of the only ways the poor can
celebrate at little cost)
It is quite a temptation to try to save the world though charity
living in Mexico.
Doesn't sound like it's changed since I
lived there fifty years ago.
Where do you live, Robin? Are you on
the coast? I love the coast, although
I haven't spent all that much time there.
I lived in the mountains about 60 miles
west of Durango -- not too far from El Salto.
Nancy
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| Title: Re: Impact of Helping the Poor and Needy on the Economy of a Country and Society at large...EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR PEACE OF TODAY'S UNRESTFUL WORLD... |
11 Jun 2007 06:19:46 PM |
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On Jun 11, 3:51 pm, Nancy <nancylori...@shaw.ca> wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:58 pm, Robin <miracle...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 11, 12:32 pm, Bob <RobertAr...@msn.com> wrote:
There are many kinds of poverty.
Each kind requires a distinctly different response, otherwise we do
more harm than good.
For those who are impoverished due to permanent inability to sustain
themselves, we must provide a compassionate and permanent level of
support.
For those who are momentarily impoverished due to a calamity, we must
provide a bridge of temporary help to restore to them the ability of
self-sustainment.
For others, we must analyze their circumstance, and remedy whatever
personal issues are keeping them in poverty, especially if they seem
to be foregoing many opportunities for self-sustainment. Is there a
psychological problem, substance abuse, abuse by other persons, or
simple ignorance of the skill set required to sustain oneself?
The key to it all is to "teach the man to fish," so to speak, whenever
possible, and not to relegate him to the status of permanent
dependence on others.
Unfortunately, there are political persons who regard the poor as a
source of political power, and will intentionally feed them the fruit
of another's labor, so that they can say to them, "see what I (repeat,
I, not those whose produce I have confiscated) am giving you, so vote
for me."
Such a political system creates a class of resentful donors, and pits
them against a class of ungrateful recipients who develop a sense of
entitlement.
Thus, we need to beware of the wolves who pretend to be sheep, who
express an unfelt sympathy for the poor, and who prey upon their
miserable condition.
Here in Mexico the poor live hand to mouth, there is charity but
services and support are visibly absent. Apparently the Catholic
Church is one of the largest contributors of cash to the Vatican. Most
of the people in the Churches are deliberatly kept ignorant, pregnant,
or working towards the next fiesta (one of the only ways the poor can
celebrate at little cost)
It is quite a temptation to try to save the world though charity
living in Mexico.
Doesn't sound like it's changed since I
lived there fifty years ago.
Where do you live, Robin? Are you on
the coast? I love the coast, although
I haven't spent all that much time there.
I lived in the mountains about 60 miles
west of Durango -- not too far from El Salto.
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I live in San Miguel de Allende, it's like living in 18th century
Mexico, in many ways it is lovely yet the suffering is very visible. I
realize that this entire world is a suffering construct and I am
reminded everyday how I no longer want any part of it...
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