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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "nutcase"
Date: 11 Mar 2005 04:05:37 PM
Object: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics)
I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed a true picture of
9/11, the Afghanistan war, and the Iraq war, except that it left out the
important fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to start a
war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look like a Jew).
The US politicians in general, and Bush and his supporters in
particular, were shown as dishonest, lying, and morally corrupt, which
is true. It was pointed out that the Iraq war was justified with lies:
"weapons of mass destruction" that didn't exist, and a connection to Al
Qaeda that also didn't exist. It was shown how countless Iraqi civilians
and a significant number of US soldiers have been killed or injured in
the war. Interestingly, only one congressperson has a child in the US
armed forces. Most of the US military is recruited from the poor and
uneducated.
My conclusion: the US political system is corrupt and not truly
democratic. There is little anybody can do about it, so I may as well be
selfish. If I can profit from the wars, I will do so. I'll support the
winning side, for maximum personal gain.
--
- nutcase, with millie and mollie
"May God curse Israel and its supporters, and may the rest of you be
blessed..."
.

User: "Catybu"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 04:09:38 PM
"nutcase" <huangmYR@earthYRlinkYR.netYR> wrote in message
news:RCoYd.6241$oO4.2976@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed a true picture of 9/11,
the Afghanistan war, and the Iraq war, except that it left out the
important fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to start a
war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look like a Jew).

The US politicians in general, and Bush and his supporters in particular,
were shown as dishonest, lying, and morally corrupt, which is true. It was
pointed out that the Iraq war was justified with lies: "weapons of mass
destruction" that didn't exist, and a connection to Al Qaeda that also
didn't exist. It was shown how countless Iraqi civilians and a significant
number of US soldiers have been killed or injured in the war.
Interestingly, only one congressperson has a child in the US armed forces.
Most of the US military is recruited from the poor and uneducated.

My conclusion: the US political system is corrupt and not truly
democratic. There is little anybody can do about it, so I may as well be
selfish. If I can profit from the wars, I will do so. I'll support the
winning side, for maximum personal gain.

--
- nutcase, with millie and mollie

"May God curse Israel and its supporters, and may the rest of you be
blessed..."

I thought it was hilarious when Michael Moore went up to different
congressmen and asked them to sign their children up for the armed forces.
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 04:36:44 PM
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:09:38 GMT, "Catybu" <catybu@verizon.net> wrote:

I thought it was hilarious when Michael Moore went up to different
congressmen and asked them to sign their children up for the armed forces.

The "joke" doesn't really make much sense in light of a volunteer army.
--
In Heaven an angel is nobody in particular.
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 04:42:03 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message news:5974315a59195c6l6dd8rhm88hk1ncr3g8@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:09:38 GMT, "Catybu" <catybu@verizon.net> wrote:
:
: >I thought it was hilarious when Michael Moore went up to different
: >congressmen and asked them to sign their children up for the armed forces.
:
: The "joke" doesn't really make much sense in light of a volunteer army.
:
: --
: In Heaven an angel is nobody in particular.
:
: - George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
:
its funny as heck if your a canadian
.



User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 04:58:30 PM
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"nutcase" <huangmYR@earthYRlinkYR.netYR> wrote:

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed
a true picture of 9/11, the Afghanistan war,
and the Iraq war, except that it left out the important
fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to start a
war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look like a Jew).

Fahrenheit 9/11 is a Michael Moore movie.
That makes it impossible that the movie is
a true picture of anything, for the simply reason
that Mr. Moore, while a good entertainer,
is a horribly poor researcher.
Thomas
.
User: "humble.life"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 08:09:57 PM
Thomas Dehn wrote:

x-no-archive: yes


"nutcase" <huangmYR@earthYRlinkYR.netYR> wrote:

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed
a true picture of 9/11, the Afghanistan war,
and the Iraq war, except that it left out the important
fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to start a
war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look like a Jew).



Fahrenheit 9/11 is a Michael Moore movie.
That makes it impossible that the movie is
a true picture of anything, for the simply reason
that Mr. Moore, while a good entertainer,
is a horribly poor researcher.


Thomas

wheras you know the truth, but can't be assed to make a film of it, i
suppose?
.
User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 11:28:11 PM
x-no-archive: yes
"humble.life" <humble.life@lycos.co.uk> wrote:

Thomas Dehn wrote:

"nutcase" <huangmYR@earthYRlinkYR.netYR> wrote:

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed
a true picture of 9/11, the Afghanistan war,
and the Iraq war, except that it left out the important
fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to start a
war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look like a Jew).


Fahrenheit 9/11 is a Michael Moore movie.
That makes it impossible that the movie is
a true picture of anything, for the simply reason
that Mr. Moore, while a good entertainer,
is a horribly poor researcher.


wheras you know the truth, but can't be assed to make a film of it, i
suppose?

Just pick up one of Moore's books, and
thoroughly crosscheck the numbers he uses.
(don't go to any of those wehatemichaelmoore.com
webpages either, they are even less reliable
than Moore himself).
Thomas
.



User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 08:05:07 PM
x-no-archive: yes
nutcase wrote:

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed a true picture of
9/11, the Afghanistan war, and the Iraq war, except that it left out the
important fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to start a
war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look like a Jew).

The US politicians in general, and Bush and his supporters in
particular, were shown as dishonest, lying, and morally corrupt, which
is true. It was pointed out that the Iraq war was justified with lies:
"weapons of mass destruction" that didn't exist, and a connection to Al
Qaeda that also didn't exist. It was shown how countless Iraqi civilians
and a significant number of US soldiers have been killed or injured in
the war. Interestingly, only one congressperson has a child in the US
armed forces. Most of the US military is recruited from the poor and
uneducated.

My conclusion: the US political system is corrupt and not truly
democratic. There is little anybody can do about it, so I may as well be
selfish. If I can profit from the wars, I will do so. I'll support the
winning side, for maximum personal gain.

I've been lying to you, I'm really 1/2 jewish. My mom is a German jew,
their family escaped in the 30's.
.
User: "humble.life"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 11 Mar 2005 08:07:54 PM
Janithor wrote:

x-no-archive: yes

nutcase wrote:

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed a true picture of
9/11, the Afghanistan war, and the Iraq war, except that it left out
the important fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to
start a war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look
like a Jew).

The US politicians in general, and Bush and his supporters in
particular, were shown as dishonest, lying, and morally corrupt, which
is true. It was pointed out that the Iraq war was justified with lies:
"weapons of mass destruction" that didn't exist, and a connection to
Al Qaeda that also didn't exist. It was shown how countless Iraqi
civilians and a significant number of US soldiers have been killed or
injured in the war. Interestingly, only one congressperson has a child
in the US armed forces. Most of the US military is recruited from the
poor and uneducated.

My conclusion: the US political system is corrupt and not truly
democratic. There is little anybody can do about it, so I may as well
be selfish. If I can profit from the wars, I will do so. I'll support
the winning side, for maximum personal gain.




I've been lying to you, I'm really 1/2 jewish. My mom is a German jew,
their family escaped in the 30's.

my gran was part of the Hitler Youth.
disturbing isn't it.
.
User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 12 Mar 2005 12:27:59 PM
x-no-archive: yes
humble.life wrote:

Janithor wrote:

x-no-archive: yes

nutcase wrote:

I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed a true picture of
9/11, the Afghanistan war, and the Iraq war, except that it left out
the important fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to
start a war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look
like a Jew).

The US politicians in general, and Bush and his supporters in
particular, were shown as dishonest, lying, and morally corrupt,
which is true. It was pointed out that the Iraq war was justified
with lies: "weapons of mass destruction" that didn't exist, and a
connection to Al Qaeda that also didn't exist. It was shown how
countless Iraqi civilians and a significant number of US soldiers
have been killed or injured in the war. Interestingly, only one
congressperson has a child in the US armed forces. Most of the US
military is recruited from the poor and uneducated.

My conclusion: the US political system is corrupt and not truly
democratic. There is little anybody can do about it, so I may as well
be selfish. If I can profit from the wars, I will do so. I'll support
the winning side, for maximum personal gain.





I've been lying to you, I'm really 1/2 jewish. My mom is a German
jew, their family escaped in the 30's.

my gran was part of the Hitler Youth.
disturbing isn't it.

I was lying, I'm not jewish. But as far as Marty knows, I might be.
.
User: "sortalilyagain"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 12 Mar 2005 12:30:45 PM
well you could be. far far back and you would never know it.
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:423334A3.6070002@comcast.net...
| x-no-archive: yes
|
| humble.life wrote:
| > Janithor wrote:
| >
| >> x-no-archive: yes
| >>
| >> nutcase wrote:
| >>
| >>> I watched Fahrenheit 9/11. I think it mostly showed a true picture of
| >>> 9/11, the Afghanistan war, and the Iraq war, except that it left out
| >>> the important fact that the Israeli lobby influenced the decision to
| >>> start a war against Iraq (maybe Michael Moore is Jewish; he does look
| >>> like a Jew).
| >>>
| >>> The US politicians in general, and Bush and his supporters in
| >>> particular, were shown as dishonest, lying, and morally corrupt,
| >>> which is true. It was pointed out that the Iraq war was justified
| >>> with lies: "weapons of mass destruction" that didn't exist, and a
| >>> connection to Al Qaeda that also didn't exist. It was shown how
| >>> countless Iraqi civilians and a significant number of US soldiers
| >>> have been killed or injured in the war. Interestingly, only one
| >>> congressperson has a child in the US armed forces. Most of the US
| >>> military is recruited from the poor and uneducated.
| >>>
| >>> My conclusion: the US political system is corrupt and not truly
| >>> democratic. There is little anybody can do about it, so I may as well
| >>> be selfish. If I can profit from the wars, I will do so. I'll support
| >>> the winning side, for maximum personal gain.
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >>
| >> I've been lying to you, I'm really 1/2 jewish. My mom is a German
| >> jew, their family escaped in the 30's.
| >>
| > my gran was part of the Hitler Youth.
| > disturbing isn't it.
|
|
| I was lying, I'm not jewish. But as far as Marty knows, I might be.
|
.
User: "humble.life"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 12 Mar 2005 02:05:35 PM
sortalilyagain wrote:

well you could be. far far back and you would never know it.

already,
my gran really was part of the hitler youth btw....
she, amongst many austrians, still believes that some of the
concentration camps were actually built by the americans.
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 13 Mar 2005 04:10:16 AM
In message <39h0b6F6486v5U1@individual.net>, humble.life
<humble.life@lycos.co.uk> writes

sortalilyagain wrote:

well you could be. far far back and you would never know it.

already,

my gran really was part of the hitler youth btw....
she, amongst many austrians, still believes that some of the
concentration camps were actually built by the americans.

You're the Duchess of Kent's grandson?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "humble.life"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 13 Mar 2005 05:37:48 PM
Alan Harding wrote:

In message <39h0b6F6486v5U1@individual.net>, humble.life
<humble.life@lycos.co.uk> writes

sortalilyagain wrote:

well you could be. far far back and you would never know it.

already,

my gran really was part of the hitler youth btw....
she, amongst many austrians, still believes that some of the
concentration camps were actually built by the americans.



You're the Duchess of Kent's grandson?

no, but i, ahhh, no i can't tell you that, or that.
2 relatives are effectively world renound.
this has added to the pressure in my head. although recently i
discoverd most friends don't give a flying ***** when i told them.
.


User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 12 Mar 2005 02:12:29 PM
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"humble.life" <humble.life@lycos.co.uk> wrote:

my gran really was part of the hitler youth btw....
she, amongst many austrians, still believes that some of the
concentration camps were actually built by the americans.

Some people just can't face the truth,
and their own guilt.
Thomas
.
User: "humble.life"

Title: Re: impressions of fahrenheit 9/11 (ot; politics) 12 Mar 2005 02:28:13 PM
Thomas Dehn wrote:

x-no-archive: yes

"humble.life" <humble.life@lycos.co.uk> wrote:

my gran really was part of the hitler youth btw....
she, amongst many austrians, still believes that some of the
concentration camps were actually built by the americans.



Some people just can't face the truth,
and their own guilt.


Thomas

indeed. i view her as a disconnected nut-case.
problem is, she thinks the same in reverse.
.








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