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"Tom Vizzini" |
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19 Nov 2004 09:13:22 AM |
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In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
Something I received today:
As a qualified social worker and NLP master practitioner I'm
reasonably familiar with working with people. That's why I
said "yes" when a family member of mine asked me to help her with a
problem, although I expected that (knowing her) it would be hard to
getting her to change.
I worked with her once a week for a couple of months, making some
positive changes, but it all remained marginal.
In the meantime I had been introduced to 3D Mind and practiced
enough on myself to take the next step, working with someone else.
In a meeting with this family member, knowing that I would have less
than half an hour, I told her about 3D Mind. She's was very
interested and we went to work on a very central belief: "I'm not
important".
In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE. Like vanished. Like
never been there.
The next morning she called me to tell that her attitude and
behavior were already noticeably changed, standing up for herself in
a situation in which before she would have kept still and would have
been whining by herself for hours or days.
This experience has changed me too, in the sense that my perspective
on what problems are "difficult" or not has changed dramatically.
I'm convinced that as 3D Mind spreads, it's going to get a whole lot
of coaches and therapists out of work. Because from then on people
will take matters into their own hands and solve their own problems.
When I talk to people and they tell me of their problems, it almost
feels like a crime not to tell them about 3D Mind.
Tom Vizzini, it's clear to me that you have made a tremendous
contribution to public mental health and to people's personal
development. Thank you.
Ronald van Oosten
opschudding@wanadoo.nl
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OK am I going to have to point this out.....Months of NLP did not get the
result. 20 Minutes of 3D mind did. You just have to be nuts not to want to
look into a tool that is getting such results.
The price is not $3000 or $6000. It is only 70 dollars. Get on the 3D Mind
group and read the updated details of the model. Who else would give you
FREE updates on a working model? Who else would be there on a daily basis
to support your changes? Who else would do all this with a 100% MONEY BACK
GUARANTEE.
Why do we do this so cheaply and give so much? Because we think people
deserve to get the changes they want without spending years of their lives
and thousands of dollars.
To find out more...
http://essential-skills.com/content.php?cid=1043
OK end of shameless plug.
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Tom Vizzini
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
New members area
3D Mind www.essential-skills.com/3dmind.htm
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
19 Nov 2004 11:28:20 AM |
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On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
OK end of shameless plug.
It's 'snakeoil' not shameless. It's you, Tom, who is shameless.
Go peddle your snakeoil somewhere else.
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| User: "Tom Vizzini" |
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19 Nov 2004 03:09:12 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:306opkF2rq9shU1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
OK end of shameless plug.
It's 'snakeoil' not shameless. It's you, Tom, who is shameless.
Go peddle your snakeoil somewhere else.
What a shame.
Sounds like someone is afraid of not having an excuse to feel bad.
The bottom line is this. If you want to get over depression easily without
drugs or endless trips into your past, 3D mind is the way to go. Check out
the link in my first email. Feel free to contact anyone who has supplied
testimonials. Watch the videos that are there.
Notice the money back guarantee. Snake oil never offers a refund if you
don't get results. Snake oil is a scam. Snake oil does not offer a group
where you can ask questions and get help.
Have fun.....if you can
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Tom Vizzini
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
New members area
3D Mind www.essential-skills.com/3dmind.htm
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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19 Nov 2004 10:15:24 PM |
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On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
What a shame.
Only in your tiny, little mind.
Sounds like someone is afraid of not having an excuse to feel bad.
That reads like you're attempting to direct some ill-intended NLP my
way. As I wrote before, Tom, you have no shame.
You prey on sick people for profit, peddling your soothsaying product in
this forum.
The bottom line is this. If you want to get over depression easily without
drugs or endless trips into your past, 3D mind is the way to go. Check out
the link in my first email. Feel free to contact anyone who has supplied
testimonials. Watch the videos that are there.
Get the whole sales presentation? How about you just keep it to yourself
and your shills.
If it really has efficacy, sell it to the medical community.
What did you sell before you sold this product, Tom?
Notice the money back guarantee. Snake oil never offers a refund if you
don't get results. Snake oil is a scam. Snake oil does not offer a group
where you can ask questions and get help.
'Snake oil' is a figure of speech. Plenty of junk products come with
money back guarantees, it's part of the standard sales pitch.
People can ask questions and get help here and many other places and
they can do that for free and without the interference and manipulation
of people motivated by sales goals and profits.
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Have fun.....if you can
And may you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
I really mean it.
Imagine that.
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| User: "% ." |
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19 Nov 2004 10:17:03 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
What a shame.
Only in your tiny, little mind.
Sounds like someone is afraid of not having an excuse to feel bad.
That reads like you're attempting to direct some ill-intended NLP my
way. As I wrote before, Tom, you have no shame.
You prey on sick people for profit, peddling your soothsaying product in
this forum.
The bottom line is this. If you want to get over depression easily
without
drugs or endless trips into your past, 3D mind is the way to go. Check
out
the link in my first email. Feel free to contact anyone who has supplied
testimonials. Watch the videos that are there.
Get the whole sales presentation? How about you just keep it to yourself
and your shills.
If it really has efficacy, sell it to the medical community.
What did you sell before you sold this product, Tom?
Notice the money back guarantee. Snake oil never offers a refund if you
don't get results. Snake oil is a scam. Snake oil does not offer a group
where you can ask questions and get help.
'Snake oil' is a figure of speech. Plenty of junk products come with
money back guarantees, it's part of the standard sales pitch.
People can ask questions and get help here and many other places and
they can do that for free and without the interference and manipulation
of people motivated by sales goals and profits.
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Have fun.....if you can
And may you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
I really mean it.
Imagine that.
you mean i won't be afraid of the kitchen chair anymore
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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19 Nov 2004 10:47:40 PM |
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On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
you mean i won't be afraid of the kitchen chair anymore
If you really want to.
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| User: "% ." |
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19 Nov 2004 10:57:24 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3080jcF2th6otU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
you mean i won't be afraid of the kitchen chair anymore
If you really want to.
and i won't pick at the bugs not coming out of my arms ?
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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19 Nov 2004 11:00:26 PM |
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"%" wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3080jcF2th6otU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
you mean i won't be afraid of the kitchen chair anymore
If you really want to.
and i won't pick at the bugs not coming out of my arms ?
Formicator!
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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19 Nov 2004 11:55:52 PM |
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On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3080jcF2th6otU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
you mean i won't be afraid of the kitchen chair anymore
If you really want to.
and i won't pick at the bugs not coming out of my arms ?
Well, no, you have to keep up the daily debridation until the
infestation passes.
Here's one just for you:
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<http://www.msf.org><http://icbl.org/><http://ifaw.org><http://foei.org>
<http://www.dalailamafoundation.org><http://icrc.org><http://tzuchi.org>
<http://act.greenpeace.org><http://gadenrelief.org><http://resisters.ca>
<http://peacebrigades.org><http://whalewatch.org/><http://buddhanet.net>
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| User: "% ." |
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19 Nov 2004 11:59:18 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3084j7F2sm473U3@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3080jcF2th6otU2@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
you mean i won't be afraid of the kitchen chair anymore
If you really want to.
and i won't pick at the bugs not coming out of my arms ?
Well, no, you have to keep up the daily debridation until the
infestation passes.
Here's one just for you:
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<http://www.msf.org><http://icbl.org/><http://ifaw.org><http://foei.org>
<http://www.dalailamafoundation.org><http://icrc.org><http://tzuchi.org>
<http://act.greenpeace.org><http://gadenrelief.org><http://resisters.ca>
<http://peacebrigades.org><http://whalewatch.org/><http://buddhanet.net>
sorry , i don't go to posted web sites
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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20 Nov 2004 12:29:28 AM |
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On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
sorry , i don't go to posted web sites
That's ok, you don't have to. Whatever makes you feel comfortable.
Shall we try for another before I shut it off again?
This one should be different again.
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<http://buddhanet.net/><http://www.dalailamafoundation.org/><http://foei.org/>
<http://wri-irg.org/><http://resisters.ca/><http://icrc.org/><http://rawa.org>
<http://act.greenpeace.org/><http://whalewatch.org/><http://peacebrigades.org>
<http://www.msf.org><http://icbl.org><http://gadenrelief.org><http://ifaw.org>
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| User: "% ." |
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20 Nov 2004 12:36:39 AM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:3086i8F2sfu64U1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
sorry , i don't go to posted web sites
That's ok, you don't have to. Whatever makes you feel comfortable.
Shall we try for another before I shut it off again?
This one should be different again.
--
<http://buddhanet.net/><http://www.dalailamafoundation.org/><http://foei.org
/>
<http://wri-irg.org/><http://resisters.ca/><http://icrc.org/><http://rawa.or
g>
<http://act.greenpeace.org/><http://whalewatch.org/><http://peacebrigades.or
g>
<http://www.msf.org><http://icbl.org><http://gadenrelief.org><http://ifaw.or
g>
pitch till you win , i'll never know
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| User: "Tom Vizzini" |
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20 Nov 2004 11:52:35 AM |
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Hi Bev,
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
What a shame.
Only in your tiny, little mind.
Sounds like someone is afraid of not having an excuse to feel bad.
That reads like you're attempting to direct some ill-intended NLP my
way. As I wrote before, Tom, you have no shame.
You prey on sick people for profit, peddling your soothsaying product in
this forum.
Huh? I am not sure what your problem is. We have developed a way to
eliminate depression without drugs or years of therapy. It works.
I am not using any ill intented anything. I can see why you have a problem
thoigh. No matter what, you see what you want to be there instead of an
opportunity to help yourself.
The bottom line is this. If you want to get over depression easily
without
drugs or endless trips into your past, 3D mind is the way to go. Check
out
the link in my first email. Feel free to contact anyone who has supplied
testimonials. Watch the videos that are there.
Get the whole sales presentation? How about you just keep it to yourself
and your shills.
If it really has efficacy, sell it to the medical community.
Huh? Why would I do that? So they can sell it to you for $1000?
Notice the money back guarantee. Snake oil never offers a refund if you
don't get results. Snake oil is a scam. Snake oil does not offer a group
where you can ask questions and get help.
'Snake oil' is a figure of speech. Plenty of junk products come with
money back guarantees, it's part of the standard sales pitch.
OK not this is disturbing. Using words without regard to their actual
definition is just an attempt to be mean. You can not draw any actual
comparison be tween the 3D mind and snake oil. So you use a 'figure of
speech' to try to.
People can ask questions and get help here and many other places and
they can do that for free and without the interference and manipulation
of people motivated by sales goals and profits.
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Appearently they do not read it for help either.
Have fun.....if you can
And may you be free of suffering and the causes of suffering.
Sorry...I don't do suffering. Suffering is what happens when people run out
of choices.
Have fun
--
Tom Vizzini
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
New members area
3D Mind www.essential-skills.com/3dmind.htm
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| User: "old coyote" |
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21 Nov 2004 12:25:49 PM |
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"Tom Vizzini" <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote in
news:MuKdnR7dBZfSGQLcRVn-rw@adelphia.com:
Hi Bev,
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
What a shame.
Only in your tiny, little mind.
Sounds like someone is afraid of not having an excuse to feel bad.
That reads like you're attempting to direct some ill-intended NLP my
way. As I wrote before, Tom, you have no shame.
You prey on sick people for profit, peddling your soothsaying product
in this forum.
Huh? I am not sure what your problem is. We have developed a way to
eliminate depression without drugs or years of therapy. It works.
I believe him, but I promised too many people that I'd put the bullets away
for good a number of years ago.
<snip>
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-=oc=-
"Don't punish yourself for imagined sins." - Charles
"you do not need to bargain your well being" - %
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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21 Nov 2004 01:27:58 AM |
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In message <MuKdnR7dBZfSGQLcRVn-rw@adelphia.com>, Tom Vizzini
<Tom@essential-skills.com> writes
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
What a shame.
Only in your tiny, little mind.
Sounds like someone is afraid of not having an excuse to feel bad.
That reads like you're attempting to direct some ill-intended NLP my
way. As I wrote before, Tom, you have no shame.
You prey on sick people for profit, peddling your soothsaying product in
this forum.
Huh? I am not sure what your problem is. We have developed a way to
eliminate depression without drugs or years of therapy. It works.
For now, I'll accept one reference to a peer-reviewed article in a
reputable scientific or medical journal.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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20 Nov 2004 02:17:37 PM |
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On 2004-11-20, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
Huh? I am not sure what your problem is.
I don't have a problem. You do. Your problem here is that your sales
pitch is being heckled. It doesn't belong here, there's a FAQ for this
group and marketing isn't included.
We have developed a way to eliminate depression without drugs or
years of therapy. It works.
Where are the studies? clinical studies. Got any? Even one?
I am not using any ill intented anything. I can see why you have a problem
thoigh. No matter what, you see what you want to be there instead of an
opportunity to help yourself.
Well, that you wouldn't know. You can guess though. When you learn to
differentiate between the assumptions and what you actually can know,
then you may have a better idea of what is actually going on outside of
yourself and your own intent.
If it really has efficacy, sell it to the medical community.
Huh? Why would I do that? So they can sell it to you for $1000?
No, so it could be just mixed in with the full treatment regimen. By the
way, in most developed countries, healthcare is socialized.
OK not this is disturbing. Using words without regard to their actual
definition is just an attempt to be mean. You can not draw any actual
comparison be tween the 3D mind and snake oil. So you use a 'figure of
speech' to try to.
The figure of speech, which means a product that is not efficacious for
its presented use, is a comparison to your trademarked product, 3D Mind
(tm). Here, you have presented no evidence of efficacy; there isn't any
on the web-site either. Testimonials are anecdotes, not evidence.
In that way, 3D Mind(tm) is equivalent to a copper bracelet or what is
meant by the figure of speech, 'snake oil.'
3P thinking tells me you have a Pitch and a Product, but no Proof.
Appearently they do not read it for help either.
If that is what is apparent to you, then your thinking is obscured.
You'll have to deal with that yourself. The obscurity is caused by your
greed for profits, your inconsideration of the actual state and distress
of others and your admitted lack of shame (by the way, do you have a
conscience?). Work on those three dimensions and maybe someday you'll be
able to see something rather than your own frustration in sales.
Sorry...I don't do suffering. Suffering is what happens when people run out
of choices.
Ah, you have frustration confused with suffering. There are many more
kinds of suffering than just frustration.
Some people don't know that though. So now I'm really wondering, Tom, do
you have a conscience?
Like, what leads you to hawk your product in this forum? Your thread
here is equivalent to walking into a client-run support group and making
an unsolicited sales pitch. Worse, you're making a medical sales pitch
to a bunch of lay people and your product is unproven.
There are proven therapies. Do you see anyone hawking them here? There
are proven programs, Recovery, Inc. for instance, do you see anyone even
just promoting that here?
This isn't a Home Show.
Have fun
I am. It's called hijacking a thread.
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| User: "Tom Vizzini" |
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20 Nov 2004 02:27:23 PM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
There are proven therapies. Do you see anyone hawking them here? There
are proven programs, Recovery, Inc. for instance, do you see anyone even
just promoting that here?
Totally hilarious....If they are proven how come you are not cured?
I am. It's called hijacking a thread.
Interesting.....But all you are proving is that everything you promote has
not worked for you.
3D Mind (tm) is about freedom from depression and other limiting problems.
Check out the testimonials. Feel free to contact any of them. Results are
the proof of success.
Nothing you can say or do can change the fact that the 3D mind gets results.
Have fun
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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20 Nov 2004 04:14:36 PM |
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On 2004-11-20, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
Totally hilarious....If they are proven how come you are not cured?
Cured? Don't you even know what depression is other than a word? It's
not something like an infection that is either present or cured, it's a
group of symptoms that can be caused by very many things from endocrine
imbalance to a knock on the head to social maldevelopment or
maladjustment or very many other things. There may be a cure for this or
that, the factors that lead to the depression symptoms, but there's no
cure-all for the symptom profile.
You maybe should work on some essential knowledge before you start
trying to hawk essential skills for something.
Interesting.....But all you are proving is that everything you promote has
not worked for you.
You're the one promoting the product here, Tom. And doing it, just as
you admitted, shamelessly. Have you no conscience, Tom?
3D Mind (tm) is about freedom from depression and other limiting problems.
Check out the testimonials. Feel free to contact any of them. Results are
the proof of success.
You have no proofs presented. Not here or on your web-site. Testimonials
are anecdotes, not proof. All you have is a sales pitch and an empty and
now obviously ignorant promise.
You don't even know what depression is. So there is no way you could
know if your product actually works since you don't even know what it is
supposed to work for.
It's a con.
Nothing you can say or do can change the fact that the 3D mind gets results.
The only result it gets is profit for those who sell it.
The fact that you can solicit shill testimonials from mooches who have
bought your pitch proves nothing other than that some people will
believe in anything they've bought, whether it's a copper bracelet, a
bottle of snake oil, a magic potion or even a lemon of a car. There's a
few in every crowd.
Depression doesn't have one cause and because of that there's no one
cure. Depression isn't a thing in itself, there's no cure-all and never
will be, there are and will be multiple cures for the multiple possible
underlying causes.
Look at it this way, Pitchman, you just walked into a room of Larry
Mooches. You may as well go peddle your wares somewhere else.
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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20 Nov 2004 03:05:20 PM |
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Tom Vizzini wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
There are proven therapies. Do you see anyone hawking them here? There
are proven programs, Recovery, Inc. for instance, do you see anyone even
just promoting that here?
Totally hilarious....If they are proven how come you are not cured?
He's not? Have you checked his medical chart? And (not) cured of what?
What's his diagnosis?
I am. It's called hijacking a thread.
Interesting.....But all you are proving is that everything you promote has
not worked for you.
Name one thing he's promoted and said to have tried himself that he
specifically claimed did not work for him.
<snip of advertising>
Nothing you can say or do can change the fact that the 3D mind gets results.
Your inappropriate advertising of it on this newsgroup, OTOH, has
achieved less than sparkling results.
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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20 Nov 2004 12:34:38 PM |
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Tom Vizzini wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Appearently they do not read it for help either.
If it's unsolicited and comes with a price tag, it's not help, it's
advertising--particularly when the poster stands to gain monetarily from
anyone who wishes to access said "help". Capice?
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| User: "Tom Vizzini" |
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20 Nov 2004 02:28:40 PM |
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"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:419F8E3E.A539F1EB@catlover.com...
Tom Vizzini wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Appearently they do not read it for help either.
If it's unsolicited and comes with a price tag, it's not help, it's
advertising--particularly when the poster stands to gain monetarily from
anyone who wishes to access said "help". Capice?
So you refuse to see any doctors? Any dentists? Interesting. Maybe all your
work for free......but I doubt it :)
Have fun
--
Tom Vizzini
Real Skills for the Real World
www.essential-skills.com
New members area
3D Mind www.essential-skills.com/3dmind.htm
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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21 Nov 2004 01:26:42 AM |
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In message <WOadnQsxJO9-NQLcRVn-2g@adelphia.com>, Tom Vizzini
<Tom@essential-skills.com> writes
"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:419F8E3E.A539F1EB@catlover.com...
Tom Vizzini wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Appearently they do not read it for help either.
If it's unsolicited and comes with a price tag, it's not help, it's
advertising--particularly when the poster stands to gain monetarily from
anyone who wishes to access said "help". Capice?
So you refuse to see any doctors? Any dentists? Interesting. Maybe all your
work for free......but I doubt it :)
You didn't read the post you're replying to, did you? Or are you stupid?
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The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
20 Nov 2004 02:52:49 PM |
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Tom Vizzini wrote:
"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:419F8E3E.A539F1EB@catlover.com...
Tom Vizzini wrote:
"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:307umrF2skpa7U1@uni-berlin.de...
No one reads this forum for the ads.
Appearently they do not read it for help either.
If it's unsolicited and comes with a price tag, it's not help, it's
advertising--particularly when the poster stands to gain monetarily from
anyone who wishes to access said "help". Capice?
So you refuse to see any doctors? Any dentists? Interesting. Maybe all your
work for free......but I doubt it
Doctors and dentists don't make posts to Usenet encouraging subscribers
to spend their money on services provided *specifically* by them. IOW,
they don't advertise. Nor, unlike you, do they insist upon using the
word "help" as a euphemism for free advertising. You call call it "help"
all you want, but it's still advertising.
Seems that people here just aren't buying what you're selling. Maybe you
should take a refresher course and reread your own essay on rapport.
Just trying to "help". :)
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
19 Nov 2004 02:15:01 PM |
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Bev Thornton wrote:
On 2004-11-19, Tom Vizzini <Tom@essential-skills.com> wrote:
OK end of shameless plug.
It's 'snakeoil' not shameless. It's you, Tom, who is shameless.
Go peddle your snakeoil somewhere else.
Mmm...snake oil...
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
19 Nov 2004 09:57:49 PM |
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On 2004-11-19, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
Mmm...snake oil...
Ever had real snake juice like from Asia? It even comes in a little cup
with some organ or gland in it. There's even cups with more than one gut
object and the snake juice. Gives a hit like full-strength Red Bull,
sort of only better, stronger.
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
19 Nov 2004 10:57:52 PM |
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Bev Thornton wrote:
On 2004-11-19, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
Mmm...snake oil...
Ever had real snake juice like from Asia? It even comes in a little cup
with some organ or gland in it. There's even cups with more than one gut
object and the snake juice. Gives a hit like full-strength Red Bull,
sort of only better, stronger.
Anything like Mescal tequila with the picked worm? That's stuff's like
liquid LSD. Red Bull just gives you wiiings; Mescal gives you hyperdriiive.
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
20 Nov 2004 12:03:04 AM |
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On 2004-11-20, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
Anything like Mescal tequila with the picked worm? That's stuff's like
liquid LSD. Red Bull just gives you wiiings; Mescal gives you hyperdriiive.
Yeah, only it's different again, still different than that, unique. You
can probably find it at any Chinese medicine herb store in a Chinatown.
It really helps for the kind of fatigue from sickness too, it's not just
for getting a boost. The best kinds are the mixes made of two snakes,
not everywhere has those though. The labels have two different snakes on
them. Those brands are the strongest.
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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20 Nov 2004 12:45:58 AM |
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Bev Thornton wrote:
On 2004-11-20, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
Anything like Mescal tequila with the picked worm? That's stuff's like
liquid LSD. Red Bull just gives you wiiings; Mescal gives you hyperdriiive.
Yeah, only it's different again, still different than that, unique. You
can probably find it at any Chinese medicine herb store in a Chinatown.
It really helps for the kind of fatigue from sickness too, it's not just
for getting a boost. The best kinds are the mixes made of two snakes,
not everywhere has those though. The labels have two different snakes on
them. Those brands are the strongest.
The nearest Chinatown hereabouts is in Chicago. The next time I make a
trip up to Greektown, I'll pop by there for some reptile juice. Thanks
for the tip.
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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20 Nov 2004 01:44:57 AM |
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On 2004-11-20, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
The nearest Chinatown hereabouts is in Chicago. The next time I make a
trip up to Greektown, I'll pop by there for some reptile juice. Thanks
for the tip.
There's also cordyceps, caterpillars with fungus on them. They're good
too. There's also a tea, but I can't remember the name of it. You can
just ask the herbalist. The caterpillars are quite expensive raw, but
the pills made of them work well too. The snake juice can be bought in
the little cups with the bladders or in those little daily ampoules like
for royal jelly or ginseng. The loquat cough syrup is a great cough
suppresant. Worth having around the house if you ever get colds or flu.
There is also a product called Yunnan Bai Yao or Paiyao, the powder is
an amazing first aid thing for cuts, scrapes and burns and it can be
used for many more things. Always worth having a little bottle and it's
really cheap. There's quite a few things at a Chinese herbalist's that
work really well. There can be a lot of variation in them too, shopping
around the whole Chinatown is fun and it's the only way to make sure
you're getting the freshest stuff and a good deal. The two usually go
together. I've never been to Chicago though, so I don't know what it's
like there. Chinatowns are different here and there.
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| User: "% ." |
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20 Nov 2004 01:52:40 AM |
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"Bev Thornton" <Reply-To@Not.Invalid> wrote in message
news:308avoF2timecU1@uni-berlin.de...
On 2004-11-20, Noon Cat Nick <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
The nearest Chinatown hereabouts is in Chicago. The next time I make a
trip up to Greektown, I'll pop by there for some reptile juice. Thanks
for the tip.
There's also cordyceps, caterpillars with fungus on them. They're good
too. There's also a tea, but I can't remember the name of it. You can
just ask the herbalist. The caterpillars are quite expensive raw, but
the pills made of them work well too. The snake juice can be bought in
the little cups with the bladders or in those little daily ampoules like
for royal jelly or ginseng. The loquat cough syrup is a great cough
suppresant. Worth having around the house if you ever get colds or flu.
There is also a product called Yunnan Bai Yao or Paiyao, the powder is
an amazing first aid thing for cuts, scrapes and burns and it can be
used for many more things. Always worth having a little bottle and it's
really cheap. There's quite a few things at a Chinese herbalist's that
work really well. There can be a lot of variation in them too, shopping
around the whole Chinatown is fun and it's the only way to make sure
you're getting the freshest stuff and a good deal. The two usually go
together. I've never been to Chicago though, so I don't know what it's
like there. Chinatowns are different here and there.
this is too big for me to read
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: In about twenty minutes the problem was GONE |
20 Nov 2004 03:49:59 AM |
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On 2004-11-20, % <> wrote:
this is too big for me to read
Whiner.
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