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Sociology > Depression |
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"Bob Dilworth" |
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02 Jun 2004 03:24:53 PM |
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Is Depression Ever Intractable? |
Hi All!
I'm new here. I lurk every so often - well, not THAT often - but from
time to time. I know this has probably been discussed ad nauseum but
I'm curious to know if you guys think that some depressions are simple
intractable.
I'm 53 years old and have been depressed since the mid 1980's. I'm
currently on 30 mg of Prozac and have also tried Effexor. I've tried
counseling but it hasn't ever "taken". Perhaps I've not found anyone
with whom I can connect. I do have short periods of time when I feel
pretty good but I inevitably slide back down into murkey regions. I'm
there (in the murkey regions) now and I'm wondering if it's worth
attempting to treat it anymore. Why not simply embrace one's destiny
rather than trying to be something one simply isn't (i.e., normal and
NOT depressed)?
Perhaps if I could get rid of these constant intruding thoughts of death
it might help. But such thoughts have been intruding for a LONG time.
I've not done anything about hastening death - I've never attempted
suicide, for example - but I do have a plan (although no readily
available means) and it's somehow comforting just to keep the option
open in case I ever need it. Why the death obsession? Just lucky I
guess. Normal folks don't have such obsessions, I'm sure, so it's one
more tick mark under my name on the "bad person" scoreboard. How's all
this for rambling?
Anyway, the question I want to ask is this: Is depression ever simply
untreatable? How does one decide when it's time to stop trying?
Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob D.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: Is Depression Ever Intractable? |
02 Jun 2004 03:42:57 PM |
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"Bob Dilworth" wrote
Hi All!
hi bob.
I'm new here. I lurk every so often - well, not THAT often - but from
time to time.
welcome.
I know this has probably been discussed ad nauseum but
I'm curious to know if you guys think that some depressions are simple
intractable.
yes.
I'm 53 years old and have been depressed since the mid 1980's. I'm
currently on 30 mg of Prozac and have also tried Effexor. I've tried
counseling but it hasn't ever "taken". Perhaps I've not found anyone
with whom I can connect. I do have short periods of time when I feel
pretty good but I inevitably slide back down into murkey regions. I'm
there (in the murkey regions) now and I'm wondering if it's worth
attempting to treat it anymore. Why not simply embrace one's destiny
rather than trying to be something one simply isn't (i.e., normal and
NOT depressed)?
if you figure out a way to embrace it, will ya let me in on your secret?
Perhaps if I could get rid of these constant intruding thoughts of death
it might help. But such thoughts have been intruding for a LONG time.
yes, and as long as you are depressed, they aren't likely to leave.
I've not done anything about hastening death - I've never attempted
suicide, for example - but I do have a plan (although no readily
available means) and it's somehow comforting just to keep the option
open in case I ever need it.
it's just that it's typical for we depressives to want a way out. nothing
more than that i think.
Why the death obsession? Just lucky I
guess. Normal folks don't have such obsessions, I'm sure, so it's one
more tick mark under my name on the "bad person" scoreboard. How's all
this for rambling?
i guess the death obsession just makes you a "normal depressive." cuz i
think we all feel that way to some extent here in ASD.
Anyway, the question I want to ask is this: Is depression ever simply
untreatable?
yes. it's called refractory depression. it's a *****.
How does one decide when it's time to stop trying?
one must never stop trying. to stop trying is to lay down and die.
Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
don't know how helpful they were, but those are my thoughts.
again, welcome to ASD.
u2b
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: Is Depression Ever Intractable? |
03 Jun 2004 12:06:22 AM |
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Bob - Yes, the "treatability" of depression ranges from easy to
impossible, with the majority of cases in the middle. However, if
you've only tried Prozac and Effexor, you're a long ways from
qualifying as a case of refractory depression. There are many, many
other antidepressants available, with different modes of action, so
I'd strongly recommend you look for a good psychiatrist who is serious
about finding the medications that work best for you.
Good luck! And don't give up!
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000
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"Bob Dilworth" <bdilworth@mco.edu> wrote in message
news:c9ld2l$prm$2@tribune.oar.net...
Hi All!
I'm new here. I lurk every so often - well, not THAT often - but
from
time to time. I know this has probably been discussed ad nauseum
but
I'm curious to know if you guys think that some depressions are
simple
intractable.
I'm 53 years old and have been depressed since the mid 1980's. I'm
currently on 30 mg of Prozac and have also tried Effexor. I've
tried
counseling but it hasn't ever "taken". Perhaps I've not found
anyone
with whom I can connect. I do have short periods of time when I
feel
pretty good but I inevitably slide back down into murkey regions.
I'm
there (in the murkey regions) now and I'm wondering if it's worth
attempting to treat it anymore. Why not simply embrace one's
destiny
rather than trying to be something one simply isn't (i.e., normal
and
NOT depressed)?
Perhaps if I could get rid of these constant intruding thoughts of
death
it might help. But such thoughts have been intruding for a LONG
time.
I've not done anything about hastening death - I've never attempted
suicide, for example - but I do have a plan (although no readily
available means) and it's somehow comforting just to keep the option
open in case I ever need it. Why the death obsession? Just lucky I
guess. Normal folks don't have such obsessions, I'm sure, so it's
one
more tick mark under my name on the "bad person" scoreboard. How's
all
this for rambling?
Anyway, the question I want to ask is this: Is depression ever
simply
untreatable? How does one decide when it's time to stop trying?
Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob D.
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| User: "foolio" |
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| Title: Re: Is Depression Ever Intractable? |
02 Jun 2004 06:48:31 PM |
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Bob Dilworth wrote:
Hi All!
I'm new here. I lurk every so often - well, not THAT often - but from
time to time. I know this has probably been discussed ad nauseum but
I'm curious to know if you guys think that some depressions are simple
intractable.
I'm 53 years old and have been depressed since the mid 1980's. I'm
currently on 30 mg of Prozac and have also tried Effexor. I've tried
counseling but it hasn't ever "taken". Perhaps I've not found anyone
with whom I can connect. I do have short periods of time when I feel
pretty good but I inevitably slide back down into murkey regions. I'm
there (in the murkey regions) now and I'm wondering if it's worth
attempting to treat it anymore. Why not simply embrace one's destiny
rather than trying to be something one simply isn't (i.e., normal and
NOT depressed)?
Perhaps if I could get rid of these constant intruding thoughts of death
it might help. But such thoughts have been intruding for a LONG time.
I've not done anything about hastening death - I've never attempted
suicide, for example - but I do have a plan (although no readily
available means) and it's somehow comforting just to keep the option
open in case I ever need it. Why the death obsession? Just lucky I
guess. Normal folks don't have such obsessions, I'm sure, so it's one
more tick mark under my name on the "bad person" scoreboard. How's all
this for rambling?
Anyway, the question I want to ask is this: Is depression ever simply
untreatable? How does one decide when it's time to stop trying?
Any thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bob D.
hi Bob. its treatbale for some, others not. you quit anytime you want. i
know for me to quit drinking and the hard *****, i had to be so sick and
tired of it i quit...no treatment center was going to do it for me. i
spose like they say, when you get sick and tired of being sick and tired
....time to jump ship? no easy answers
i wish you well.. mmm find more folks to connect with maybe? hang around
and put up with this ***** with the rest of us?
take care
Greg
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Is Depression Ever Intractable? |
04 Jun 2004 07:04:53 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 16:24:53 -0400, Bob Dilworth <bdilworth@mco.edu>
wrote:
I'm new here. I lurk every so often - well, not THAT often - but from
time to time. I know this has probably been discussed ad nauseum but
I'm curious to know if you guys think that some depressions are simple
intractable.
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I'd have to say 'yes'. That isn't a reason to stop hoping, and trying.
There are many ADs out there that you haven't tried yet; as Nom de Plume
said, find a good doctor who knows the subject. Counselling really does
help some people, but a lot depends on what sort of trust you can feel
with the counsellor.
I too am 53. I'm convinced that I've been more or less Depressed all my
life, but diagnosed in 1996 since when I've used about 6 different ADs,
some in high doses, and a /lot/ of counselling. I'm certainly a great
deal 'better' now than I was at my lowest.
Welcome to ASD:))
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-- Whiskers
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