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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 09:13:24 AM |
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% wrote:
i don't even care
My back hurts so I might adjust the
meds. And my ISP went kerflooey for 12
hours yesterday which screwed up my
work. So, I'm with ya, kinda -- I barely
care.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Mar 2007 09:18:27 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
i don't even care
My back hurts so I might adjust the
meds. And my ISP went kerflooey for 12
hours yesterday which screwed up my
work. So, I'm with ya, kinda -- I barely
care.
well i feel for you on this ,
back pains are / can be nasty pains ,
i was near crippled by one a few years back ,
i even tried to get the doc to do a house call , wasn't happening ,
its suppose to hit 56 F here today , if it does ,
i'll have enough mountain springs to make a king size bed
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 10:13:19 AM |
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% wrote:
"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
i don't even care
My back hurts so I might adjust the
meds. And my ISP went kerflooey for 12
hours yesterday which screwed up my
work. So, I'm with ya, kinda -- I barely
care.
well i feel for you on this ,
back pains are / can be nasty pains ,
i was near crippled by one a few years back ,
i even tried to get the doc to do a house call , wasn't happening ,
its suppose to hit 56 F here today , if it does ,
i'll have enough mountain springs to make a king size bed
I remember that episode with yer back
and, hey, we're about the same temperature.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:16:46 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
i don't even care
My back hurts so I might adjust the
meds. And my ISP went kerflooey for 12
hours yesterday which screwed up my
work. So, I'm with ya, kinda -- I barely
care.
well i feel for you on this ,
back pains are / can be nasty pains ,
i was near crippled by one a few years back ,
i even tried to get the doc to do a house call , wasn't happening ,
its suppose to hit 56 F here today , if it does ,
i'll have enough mountain springs to make a king size bed
I remember that episode with yer back
and, hey, we're about the same temperature.
maybe a nice sunny day will make everything feel better
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| User: "Gayle" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:24:35 AM |
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% wrote:
maybe a nice sunny day will make everything feel better
Maybe. But I'm bettin' on the T-3.
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23 Mar 2007 10:33:17 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
maybe a nice sunny day will make everything feel better
Maybe. But I'm bettin' on the T-3.
i got enough money for one jug ,
and i'm really battling with ,
is it worth it or better not ,
i guess i better look in my change bucket ,
and see if i can if i can find nine bucks in nickles and dimes
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| User: "Gayle" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:36:06 AM |
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% wrote:
maybe a nice sunny day will make everything feel better
Maybe. But I'm bettin' on the T-3.
i got enough money for one jug ,
and i'm really battling with ,
is it worth it or better not ,
i guess i better look in my change bucket ,
and see if i can if i can find nine bucks in nickles and dimes
Does this fall under the 'half a buzz is
worse than none' decision-making criteria?
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| User: "%" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:41:13 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
maybe a nice sunny day will make everything feel better
Maybe. But I'm bettin' on the T-3.
i got enough money for one jug ,
and i'm really battling with ,
is it worth it or better not ,
i guess i better look in my change bucket ,
and see if i can if i can find nine bucks in nickles and dimes
Does this fall under the 'half a buzz is
worse than none' decision-making criteria?
the craving for more in the partial impaired state ,
is much more powerful than the not at all inpaired state ,
i can keep 2 beers in the fridge for years ,
but six or more won't last a day
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| User: "Gayle" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:58:00 AM |
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% wrote:
Does this fall under the 'half a buzz is
worse than none' decision-making criteria?
the craving for more in the partial impaired state ,
is much more powerful than the not at all inpaired state ,
i can keep 2 beers in the fridge for years ,
but six or more won't last a day
I get it. So the craving only gets
heightened instead of indulged, however
briefly.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:03:52 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
Does this fall under the 'half a buzz is
worse than none' decision-making criteria?
the craving for more in the partial impaired state ,
is much more powerful than the not at all inpaired state ,
i can keep 2 beers in the fridge for years ,
but six or more won't last a day
I get it. So the craving only gets
heightened instead of indulged, however
briefly.
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 11:12:20 AM |
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% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the
Buddhist principle of desire being the
cause of suffering. And that human
nature is wired for desire. No amount of
anything is ever enough to satisfy the
desire for it.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:18:23 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the
Buddhist principle of desire being the
cause of suffering. And that human
nature is wired for desire. No amount of
anything is ever enough to satisfy the
desire for it.
BINGO , you can have a desk in the front row
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 11:29:21 AM |
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% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the
Buddhist principle of desire being the
cause of suffering. And that human
nature is wired for desire. No amount of
anything is ever enough to satisfy the
desire for it.
BINGO , you can have a desk in the front row
If possible, I'd rather sit in the back
with the boys in leather jackets.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 11:33:22 AM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the
Buddhist principle of desire being the
cause of suffering. And that human
nature is wired for desire. No amount of
anything is ever enough to satisfy the
desire for it.
BINGO , you can have a desk in the front row
If possible, I'd rather sit in the back
with the boys in leather jackets.
now that's a craving you'll want more of
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 11:37:17 AM |
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% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the
Buddhist principle of desire being the
cause of suffering. And that human
nature is wired for desire. No amount of
anything is ever enough to satisfy the
desire for it.
BINGO , you can have a desk in the front row
If possible, I'd rather sit in the back
with the boys in leather jackets.
now that's a craving you'll want more of
Well, as you said, one's too many and
1,000 is never enough.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 11:41:27 AM |
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On 3/23/2007 10:12 AM, Gayle was all like:
% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the Buddhist principle of desire
being the cause of suffering. And that human nature is wired for desire.
No amount of anything is ever enough to satisfy the desire for it.
That's why I detest movies where the main character makes a simple
change like moving to the old family homestead and now his life is all
happy and no longer just a materialistic void.
I just saw "A Good Year" and hated it. Super rich banker moves back to
uncle's vineyard in Provence and now life's wonderful and fulfilling.
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| User: "%" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:45:57 AM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On 3/23/2007 10:12 AM, Gayle was all like:
% wrote:
well timing plays a part too ,
if i'm tired enough ,
to go to bed after one its ok ,
but that seldom happens ,
and yea you're getting the idea ,
the AA gang says 1's too many and 1,000 is never enough ,
you can have half of this penny sized piece of chocolate ,
or , you can have none at all
What you said kind of reminds me of the Buddhist principle of desire
being the cause of suffering. And that human nature is wired for
desire.
No amount of anything is ever enough to satisfy the desire for it.
That's why I detest movies where the main character makes a simple
change like moving to the old family homestead and now his life is all
happy and no longer just a materialistic void.
I just saw "A Good Year" and hated it. Super rich banker moves back to
uncle's vineyard in Provence and now life's wonderful and fulfilling.
the geographical change ,
i don't care where you blinfold me and drop me ,
i'll get drunk in less than a week no matter where i am
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| User: "Gayle" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 11:56:49 AM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
That's why I detest movies where the main character makes a simple
change like moving to the old family homestead and now his life is all
happy and no longer just a materialistic void.
I just saw "A Good Year" and hated it. Super rich banker moves back to
uncle's vineyard in Provence and now life's wonderful and fulfilling.
I hate those kinda stories, too. At the
end, I'm always thinkin': yeah, show me
a scene from next week when the weather
sucks or the transmission blows or his
uncle bugs him or he stubs his toe or
something.
"Pursue yer bliss" can be translated as
always caught up in the hunt for the
next shiny dream of happily ever after.
Bollocks, I say, bollocks. I do pursue
my bliss, though, even though it's an
illusion. Hey, it passes the time. Even
though time is an illusion, too, at
least according to Buddhism.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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23 Mar 2007 12:28:59 PM |
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On 3/23/2007 10:56 AM, Gayle was all like:
Franz Bestuchev wrote:
That's why I detest movies where the main character makes a simple
change like moving to the old family homestead and now his life is all
happy and no longer just a materialistic void.
I just saw "A Good Year" and hated it. Super rich banker moves back to
uncle's vineyard in Provence and now life's wonderful and fulfilling.
I hate those kinda stories, too. At the end, I'm always thinkin': yeah,
show me a scene from next week when the weather sucks or the
transmission blows or his uncle bugs him or he stubs his toe or something.
"Pursue yer bliss" can be translated as always caught up in the hunt for
the next shiny dream of happily ever after. Bollocks, I say, bollocks. I
do pursue my bliss, though, even though it's an illusion. Hey, it passes
the time. Even though time is an illusion, too, at least according to
Buddhism.
That one specifically because he had spent the past 15 years wrapped up
in the constant adrenalin of life on the London stock exchange.
He left with enough cash to sit back and scratch his nuts the rest of
his life, and had scored the town's princess in a week - but in 6 months
he'll be pacing.
To say nothing of a pastiche set in Provence with a wine thread for
today's aging baby boom set's latest favorites.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:06:44 AM |
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On 3/23/2007 9:33 AM, % was all like:
"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:g8-dnao2j7fGbJ7bnZ2dnUVZ_uTinZ2d@rcn.net...
% wrote:
maybe a nice sunny day will make everything feel better
Maybe. But I'm bettin' on the T-3.
i got enough money for one jug ,
and i'm really battling with ,
is it worth it or better not ,
i guess i better look in my change bucket ,
and see if i can if i can find nine bucks in nickles and dimes
for having qty #2 instead of 1?
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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23 Mar 2007 09:50:43 AM |
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On 3/23/2007 8:13 AM, Gayle was all like:
% wrote:
i don't even care
My back hurts so I might adjust the meds. And my ISP went kerflooey for
12 hours yesterday which screwed up my work. So, I'm with ya, kinda -- I
barely care.
They just setup a wireless network service in the town nearby, so with
my frequent ISP outages I'm considering putting an antenna up on the
roof and aiming it towards the city and seeing if I can pick anything
up. The service is free for another month.
I'm sort of concerned about some of the implications of it however. For
instance the police will be able to install "webcams" anywhere in the city.
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| User: "Gayle" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:15:59 AM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
They just setup a wireless network service in the town nearby, so with
my frequent ISP outages I'm considering putting an antenna up on the
roof and aiming it towards the city and seeing if I can pick anything
up. The service is free for another month.
I'm sort of concerned about some of the implications of it however. For
instance the police will be able to install "webcams" anywhere in the city.
Don't the police have webcams installed
some places already, although maybe not
wireless? And wireless around here
doesn't seem to be too reliable either
from what I hear.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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23 Mar 2007 10:41:46 AM |
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On 3/23/2007 9:15 AM, Gayle was all like:
Franz Bestuchev wrote:
They just setup a wireless network service in the town nearby, so with
my frequent ISP outages I'm considering putting an antenna up on the
roof and aiming it towards the city and seeing if I can pick anything
up. The service is free for another month.
I'm sort of concerned about some of the implications of it however.
For instance the police will be able to install "webcams" anywhere in
the city.
Don't the police have webcams installed some places already, although
maybe not wireless? And wireless around here doesn't seem to be too
reliable either from what I hear.
They might have regular cams, but it would be conventional wired. It's
only now that the city is getting a full mesh coverage.
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| User: "Gayle" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:06:20 AM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
They just setup a wireless network service in the town nearby, so
with my frequent ISP outages I'm considering putting an antenna up on
the roof and aiming it towards the city and seeing if I can pick
anything up. The service is free for another month.
I'm sort of concerned about some of the implications of it however.
For instance the police will be able to install "webcams" anywhere in
the city.
Don't the police have webcams installed some places already, although
maybe not wireless? And wireless around here doesn't seem to be too
reliable either from what I hear.
They might have regular cams, but it would be conventional wired. It's
only now that the city is getting a full mesh coverage.
The debate about surveillance in public
spaces has been raging in Boston for
decades, literally. Before webcams, the
town I live in was using cameras to
issue "failure to come to a complete
stop" tickets at 3 a.m. They'd just send
the car owner the ticket and the photo.
But those got contested successfully --
because it's not the car, it's the
person, that gets ticketed. And the
photo didn't prove who was driving.
In terms of civil liberties, the horse
is outta the barn, imo, and I just
assume webcam surveillance is ubiquitous
when I'm out and about. Hello Big Brother.
Gayle
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:13:02 AM |
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On 3/23/2007 10:06 AM, Gayle was all like:
Franz Bestuchev wrote:
They just setup a wireless network service in the town nearby, so
with my frequent ISP outages I'm considering putting an antenna up
on the roof and aiming it towards the city and seeing if I can pick
anything up. The service is free for another month.
I'm sort of concerned about some of the implications of it however.
For instance the police will be able to install "webcams" anywhere
in the city.
Don't the police have webcams installed some places already, although
maybe not wireless? And wireless around here doesn't seem to be too
reliable either from what I hear.
They might have regular cams, but it would be conventional wired. It's
only now that the city is getting a full mesh coverage.
The debate about surveillance in public spaces has been raging in Boston
for decades, literally. Before webcams, the town I live in was using
cameras to issue "failure to come to a complete stop" tickets at 3 a.m.
They'd just send the car owner the ticket and the photo. But those got
contested successfully -- because it's not the car, it's the person,
that gets ticketed. And the photo didn't prove who was driving.
In terms of civil liberties, the horse is outta the barn, imo, and I
just assume webcam surveillance is ubiquitous when I'm out and about.
Hello Big Brother.
Gayle
I fought one ticket from an automated speeding van because when you were
coming into the area there was a tree covering the speed limit sign.
Those things really bother me - but they do have to get a clear image of
the driver so operation at night without a wicked powerful (and
dangerously blinding flash) would make it impossible.
Intersection lights are increasing, but I think catching drivers running
a red is OK.
I think one of the things they aim to target first is graffiti as it has
been on the rise. But even then the suspect just has to wear a hoodie
and they're already out at night. So it would take active monitoring and
quick dispatch.
I just don't kin to the idea of an instantly installable camera.
Although the Brits seem to love the idea.
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| User: "Gayle" |
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23 Mar 2007 11:23:36 AM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
Intersection lights are increasing, but I think catching drivers running
a red is OK.
I think one of the things they aim to target first is graffiti as it has
been on the rise. But even then the suspect just has to wear a hoodie
and they're already out at night. So it would take active monitoring and
quick dispatch.
I just don't kin to the idea of an instantly installable camera.
If increasing the ability to catch a
red-running driver is ok, is there a
line you would draw for law enforcement?
And why does instant installation bother
you? Most folks don't know where they
are installed anyway.
Although the Brits seem to love the idea.
They sure do seem to. I found a webcam
in an English pub on St. Patrick's day
-- to see if there was any green beer
drinkin' goin' on. Which there was, and
plenty of it, which I didn't understand
-- but anyways. Their webcam had a
feature where a viewer could type in a
text message that appeared on a monitor
over the bar.
Purple Veggie might consider putting one
in the shop.
Gayle
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: ITS FRIDAY AND |
23 Mar 2007 12:13:54 PM |
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On 3/23/2007 10:23 AM, Gayle was all like:
Franz Bestuchev wrote:
Intersection lights are increasing, but I think catching drivers
running a red is OK.
I think one of the things they aim to target first is graffiti as it
has been on the rise. But even then the suspect just has to wear a
hoodie and they're already out at night. So it would take active
monitoring and quick dispatch.
I just don't kin to the idea of an instantly installable camera.
If increasing the ability to catch a red-running driver is ok, is there
a line you would draw for law enforcement? And why does instant
installation bother you? Most folks don't know where they are installed
anyway.
It's not the instant installation it's the infrastructure that now
exists, combined with the incredibly low entry entry price that now
exists. It costs a small fortune to install a monitor at an intersection
- there's always a debate about the cost when they want a new one. Now
it's just a $200 camera and a bit of computer configuration. They could
pick up enough kit to monitor a huge part of town for what it costs to
setup a red light cam.
It's the idea of the invasive potential that bothers me. If I had a
government which I felt confident in then I wouldn't feel creepy crawly
about it.
Although the Brits seem to love the idea.
They sure do seem to. I found a webcam in an English pub on St.
Patrick's day -- to see if there was any green beer drinkin' goin' on.
Which there was, and plenty of it, which I didn't understand -- but
anyways. Their webcam had a feature where a viewer could type in a text
message that appeared on a monitor over the bar.
Purple Veggie might consider putting one in the shop.
Gayle
Those are all over, but they're setup by individuals and not govt.
agencies. They're for entertainment and not surveillance.
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