Whatever you decide, there is no shame in leaving, maybe
it is for the better.

Berty

Hi Chris,

South Africa is a touch place to be if you are in a relationship
and also suffering from mental illness.
Been there, dun that.

The UK is a far better place to be for you.
At the moment you are able to hold a job, but thing can change
in the future, your illness may become worse, some say it is
degenerative. And what are your possibilities when your seriously
ill to take care of your family? I don't know if your wife has a job?
Maybe than helps when you are in delusion-ville.

Sometimes splitting and going your own way is better than
continuing your relationship. For instance here in the Netherlands
almost 50% of all mariages end up in a divorse. So it is no shame
really to end your relationship. Your wife may find a partner she
can rely on, to bring up the kids and you can go your own way.

Whatever you decide, there is no shame in leaving, maybe
it is for the better.

Berty

On Sep 12, 1:08?am, ChrisC <chrisp...@googlemail.com> wrote:

First let me put things into perspective. I have job, I'm pretty level
headed at the moment.

first of all, Chris, having a J.O B. on THIS forum is quite unique.

However, me and the wife had an in depth discussion last night. It
wasn't ugly it was quite calm and collected. She is scared that I will
flip out again due to my schizoaffective dis-order.

flip out how? whadda ya do? twist'n shout, scream and rant?" i
mean... what does "flip out" mean in your world?

Although at the
moment I'm quite fine. Well the long and short of it is she pretty
much wants me to leave.

Chris? i ain't you, but if sumbody wanted ME to leave, they'd be
lookin' at my back in about 8.2 seconds and i'd get my ***** when i got
damn good'n ready ta bring tha cops wimme ta get it. that's NOT
advice, i just don't like bein' where i ain't wanted....BUT....

...ya said earlier you had kids. you gonna leave because SHE said
so? you have kids to deal with. i dunno where you life, but do you
have social services and legal counsel?

(oh yeah, and glocks?)

She is unable to support me if and when and
thats IF, I flip out again.

you have a job. is your employer threatening you to kick yer ***** to
the curb should you "flip out?" or is "flippin out" HER term that
she uses to convince you that you''ll be fired, should you "flip out"
again?

does yer wife work? if not, maybe she's providing "insurance" for
herself so you do things "HER" way, and if she DOES work, maybe it may
be YOU supporting HER when SHE "flips out."

you are convinced, possibily medically and psychologically that yer
schizoid, or possibly by HER, ever think of that? maybe you are
convinced yer crazy because she doesn't wanna have the "LABEL ON HER
BACK ! "

WHY? oooooooooh, i could give ya lots'ah reasons, but not on this
forum. i'm gonna catch hell here for this particular conversation
with you, but a private conversation, i'd prefer. i get real
sensitive when people cuss me out ::smile::

(S u b n b e l l l e @ a o l . com is my email if you wanna talk
privately.)

it would kinda make stuff more clear to me to know if she's employed.
but yer not here to please me.

She scared of this happening. I supposed I don't blame her.

again, what tha HELL do you do? GET NEKKID AND STOP TRAFFIC AND
SCREAM "I'M GOD, YER ALL GOIN' TA HELL?" i mean what do you DO when
you "flip out?"

I'm scared
of it happening as well. This is why I have not been fucking around
with my meds anymore. I'm doing want my psychiatrist is saying. I have
completely stopped smoking cannabis. I have the odd few beers at the
weekend.

smokin' pot makes me panic, but i swear ta GOD if i could, i'd smoke
as much as i did when i was'ah kid, and i've never had an "odd beer"
so maybe we can't relate on that level.

I have an up and coming holiday to the UK this Christmas going on my
own. Maybe this will clear my head a bit. Seeing my family and
everything.

i dunno you or her, but i'm thinkin' she has a hidden agenda. i just
get that feelin'.

My feeling is, although I don't like it here I would not want to stop
my kids having a father. My previous wobble on this topic can be
thrown in the dustbin. I'm thinking a little clearer now. Although I'm
just sad about the whole situation.

Would it be to much trouble to ask peoples views please.

my feelings are rarely taken into account cuz i'm a nutjob, but
still.... i think this chick is whack.

i'm thinkin' she's playin' you like'ah stradivarious violin at'ah
backyard ***** down cuz she has sumbody on tha side and you're REAL easy
to convince that you're a schitz case cuz you're pro-active in your
own psych arena. i will bet she even translates their diagnoses.

i bet ya a dollar to a donut that if she sat up in an ivory tower for
about 2 hours, we'd be havin' a throw down from tha floor down, if
she'd even go there.

my view is that you need to talk to social services, stop buyin' inta
"MISS THANG'S" *****, and possibly have a DNA test done to see if
those kids are even yours.

yeah, NOTHING she says and NOTHIN' i say may be what you wanna hear,
but guessie whattie.

you AIN'T gotten to tha bottom of this and won't be til you stand up
for yourself.

a chick can make a guy crazy, and convince him of most anything.

if i were you i'd pull myself apart from her, involve your OWN support
system, and have HER shakin' in her boots, cuz my first thought
is..... and y'all folks on this forum tell me to kiss yer asses, i
don't care...

is there's a CHANCE these kids ain't your biological children.

she's workin' WAY too hard, in my book, ta get you outta tha picture
and when she DOES, you're gonna be responsible for some stuff you MAY
not need to be responsible for.

she's CONVINCING you not to get into a legal battle with her, because
you're psycho.

so BAM, she automatically wins and gets all yer money, cuz yer too
scared to fight tha good fight.

another reason i say have a DNA test? (you ain't emotionally
connected to those kids.)

i could sit here and ask you about 50 questions that i already know
the answer to that would only lend credence to my suspicions, but then
agin, it's your life.

~tanya

again:

S u b n b e l l l e

@

a o l . c o m

put all that tagether without spaces and email me if ya want.

i'm not as dumb as i look.

(that would be impossible.)

xoxoxoxxoxo

~tanya (3 L's in my name, remember,,, Subnbell l...@aol.com.)