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User: ""
Date: 02 Mar 2006 04:14:58 PM
Object: letting go of anger
that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...
-"alvintchase"
.

User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:19:26 PM
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"

well if its that hard to do ,
don't let it go , just stuff it down ,
and medicate it with something like alcohol


.
User: ""

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:26:45 PM
% wrote:

<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"




well if its that hard to do ,
don't let it go , just stuff it down ,
and medicate it with something like alcohol


but then it never leaves, it just gets hidden and comes back... I
try to rationalize the anger away... I sometimes think that letting go
of anger is about being selfish, in a positive sense... it's about not
wanting to let other people make us unhappy, it's about forgivving so
we can be happy... I try to remember that., and tell myself that, but I
have a tough time actrually doing it...
-"alvintchase"
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:30:55 PM
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:

<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"




well if its that hard to do ,
don't let it go , just stuff it down ,
and medicate it with something like alcohol



but then it never leaves, it just gets hidden and comes back... I
try to rationalize the anger away... I sometimes think that letting go
of anger is about being selfish, in a positive sense... it's about not
wanting to let other people make us unhappy, it's about forgivving so
we can be happy... I try to remember that., and tell myself that, but I
have a tough time actrually doing it...

-"alvintchase"

i can dump the anger easily enough once i forgive the cause ,
so i'm wondering if that's the key , forgiving the source or the cause


.



User: "Jane"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:36:38 PM
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"

there is, you just do it.
I don't know how to tell you to do it, but that's what I do, I just put it
in my mind that it's not worth the effort and I just stop being angry.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:42:01 PM
"Jane" <jarsenal66nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"


there is, you just do it.

I don't know how to tell you to do it, but that's what I do, I just put it
in my mind that it's not worth the effort and I just stop being angry.


his going on about it is pissing me off ,
i'm going to have to firgive him and move on in a minute
.


User: "GuardianAngel"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:31:52 PM
wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"

i think anger can be our punishment for someone else's mistakes...i
used to get angry all the time and i couldn't control my actions...in
my mind everything seemed so complicated because when you have to deal
with a seriouse issue it's always a tough thing to do...there is a
simple way to let it go...anger is a simple feeling,predictable and
sometimes destructive...you can't decide for it to disappear but you
can accept it and try to understand it... maybe finding a way to
express yourself will also help..drawing, playing an instrument,
writting, singing are things that can help you express your
anger...getting rid of the negative energy by creating something
positive always works for me
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:38:39 PM
"GuardianAngel" <the_real_shadylady@msn.com> wrote in message
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Icnh@hotmail.com wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



i think anger can be our punishment for someone else's mistakes...i
used to get angry all the time and i couldn't control my actions...in
my mind everything seemed so complicated because when you have to deal
with a seriouse issue it's always a tough thing to do...there is a
simple way to let it go...anger is a simple feeling,predictable and
sometimes destructive...you can't decide for it to disappear but you
can accept it and try to understand it... maybe finding a way to
express yourself will also help..drawing, playing an instrument,
writting, singing are things that can help you express your
anger...getting rid of the negative energy by creating something
positive always works for me

oh right , but you're just angry
.

User: ""

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:38:48 PM
GuardianAngel wrote:

Icnh@hotmail.com wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



maybe finding a way to

express yourself will also help..drawing, playing an instrument,
writting, singing are things that can help you express your
anger...getting rid of the negative energy by creating something
positive always works for me

thanks, I like that idea... I've thought about that sometimes, that
If I can somehow channel anger, resentment, bitterness, all the
negativity into some kind of positive action I'll be doing something
positive... kind of like when I was a kid and feeling angry, I'd go for
a short run and feel better...or I'd play my recorder, that would help
sometimes too... sometimes, even writing a conciliatory note to someone
I was really angry with has helped... I really did feel better
afterwards...
-"alvintchase"
.
User: "GuardianAngel"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 06:12:07 PM
wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"




maybe finding a way to

express yourself will also help..drawing, playing an instrument,
writting, singing are things that can help you express your
anger...getting rid of the negative energy by creating something
positive always works for me


thanks, I like that idea... I've thought about that sometimes, that
If I can somehow channel anger, resentment, bitterness, all the
negativity into some kind of positive action I'll be doing something
positive... kind of like when I was a kid and feeling angry, I'd go for
a short run and feel better...or I'd play my recorder, that would help
sometimes too... sometimes, even writing a conciliatory note to someone
I was really angry with has helped... I really did feel better
afterwards...

-"alvintchase"

you're welcome =) last year there was a special program (associated
with the Red Cross) in our school...we made a group of nearly 30 people
to help other kids (with different kinds of problems,most of them were
orphans) with different school subjects; every year we collect old toys
and clothes we no longer use and bring them to the Red Cross org.This
really helps to forget about the negativity in your life and to realize
there are other people who have it worse than you...i mean everybody
knows there is lots of poverty and suffering in the world but you can't
understand it untill you see it with your own eyes and it helps to
realize how blessed you are with your life...Maybe getting involved
with charity will make a good difference in your life..If that's
something you're not interested in you can learn more about
meditation...it is really relaxing...like you're out of your own body
and you no longer think or worry about everything...there are lots of
alternatives you just need to find your way...
.



User: "Charles"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:30:49 PM
On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,
wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"

Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it for
warning you and tell it you'll take over now.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:36:50 PM
Charles wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it for
warning you and tell it you'll take over now.

what about when it's anger over a lot of things from the past?
-"alvintchase"
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:41:36 PM
<
> wrote in message
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Charles wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it for
warning you and tell it you'll take over now.


what about when it's anger over a lot of things from the past?

-"alvintchase"

forgive the source , forgive the cause , forgive the past , stay in the now
,
there is no benifit in holding on to what's already gone on without you
.

User: "Charles"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:57:05 PM
On 2 Mar 2006 14:36:50 -0800,
wrote:


Charles wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it for
warning you and tell it you'll take over now.


what about when it's anger over a lot of things from the past?

-"alvintchase"

Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:58:43 PM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On 2 Mar 2006 14:36:50 -0800,

wrote:


Charles wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it for
warning you and tell it you'll take over now.


what about when it's anger over a lot of things from the past?

-"alvintchase"



Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).

well personally i enjoy being *****
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:06:09 PM
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:58:43 -0700, "%" <persent@Gmail.com> wrote:


"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On 2 Mar 2006 14:36:50 -0800,

wrote:


Charles wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it for
warning you and tell it you'll take over now.


what about when it's anger over a lot of things from the past?

-"alvintchase"



Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).



well personally i enjoy being *****

I've known other people who did as well. I don't.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:08:48 PM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 15:58:43 -0700, "%" <persent@Gmail.com> wrote:


"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On 2 Mar 2006 14:36:50 -0800,

wrote:


Charles wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:



that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...



-"alvintchase"



Thanks it. anger is a warning of some sort of danger. Thanks it

for

warning you and tell it you'll take over now.


what about when it's anger over a lot of things from the past?

-"alvintchase"



Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).



well personally i enjoy being *****


I've known other people who did as well. I don't.

then stop letting yourself be ,
quit it the same way you quit breast feeding ,
you just don't do it anymore


.



User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 06:20:51 PM
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:57:05 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:

Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).

It's nice to have the Gandhi attitude, but with all the trouble anger
causes people, especially those in this group, maybe it's time to take the
gloves off and not be so nice.
I want to kick anger's *****! Heh.
--
REASON, v.i. To weight probabilities in the scales of desire.
- Ambrose Bierce
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 06:50:09 PM
On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:20:51 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:57:05 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:

Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).


It's nice to have the Gandhi attitude, but with all the trouble anger
causes people, especially those in this group, maybe it's time to take the
gloves off and not be so nice.

I want to kick anger's *****! Heh.

I am not against anger when it is appropriate, just like guilt. When
it's no longer appropriate then it is well to get rid of it. that's
what I think, anyway.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 06:53:21 PM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:20:51 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:57:05 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net>

wrote:


Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).


It's nice to have the Gandhi attitude, but with all the trouble anger
causes people, especially those in this group, maybe it's time to take

the

gloves off and not be so nice.

I want to kick anger's *****! Heh.



I am not against anger when it is appropriate, just like guilt. When
it's no longer appropriate then it is well to get rid of it. that's
what I think, anyway.

yea , but you don't care so ...
.

User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 03 Mar 2006 02:40:09 PM
x-no-archive: yes
Charles wrote:

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:20:51 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:


On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:57:05 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:


Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).


It's nice to have the Gandhi attitude, but with all the trouble anger
causes people, especially those in this group, maybe it's time to take the
gloves off and not be so nice.

I want to kick anger's *****! Heh.




I am not against anger when it is appropriate, just like guilt. When
it's no longer appropriate then it is well to get rid of it. that's
what I think, anyway.

There you go, being sensible again.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 03 Mar 2006 03:03:58 PM
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes

Charles wrote:

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 00:20:51 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:


On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:57:05 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net>

wrote:



Same thing, that's usually the case for anger that you want to let go.
thank it for warning you, tell it you've taken care of the problem
(maybe not to your satisfaction, but it has been dealt with).


It's nice to have the Gandhi attitude, but with all the trouble anger
causes people, especially those in this group, maybe it's time to take

the

gloves off and not be so nice.

I want to kick anger's *****! Heh.




I am not against anger when it is appropriate, just like guilt. When
it's no longer appropriate then it is well to get rid of it. that's
what I think, anyway.



There you go, being sensible again.

from your point of view
.







User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 04:55:07 PM
On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,
wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...

I've never understood it either. The question is what exactly are you
letting go of? Anger doesn't really exist in and of itself. It is a
reaction to either a current event, or rather our thought process related
to an event, or a memory.
If something made you angry when it happened, shouldn't the memory of it
also make you angry? How do you rid yourself of the memory? Some suggest
training yourself not to react emotionally to memories. But that is a tall
order since the ability to react emotionally to thoughts and memories is
part of our survival instinct. For instance, we react with fear towards
things we encounter that we know from experience to be dangerous. That is
a good thing. If we didn't have that automatic process we'd keep trying to
pet that cute lion (assuming we survived the first attempt.)
Another reason we wouldn't want to ruin this automatic process is for the
beneficial aspects. We can also laugh at the mere memory of a funny event,
or become excited over the memory of an adventure (or a naked woman.)
That's a good thing also.
I just don't get what people mean by processing emotions. How do you
process an emotion? All I know how to do is feel an emotion.
--
LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law.
- Ambrose Bierce
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:24:52 PM
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:55:07 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...


I've never understood it either. The question is what exactly are you
letting go of? Anger doesn't really exist in and of itself. It is a
reaction to either a current event, or rather our thought process related
to an event, or a memory.

If something made you angry when it happened, shouldn't the memory of it
also make you angry? How do you rid yourself of the memory? Some suggest
training yourself not to react emotionally to memories. But that is a tall
order since the ability to react emotionally to thoughts and memories is
part of our survival instinct. For instance, we react with fear towards
things we encounter that we know from experience to be dangerous. That is
a good thing. If we didn't have that automatic process we'd keep trying to
pet that cute lion (assuming we survived the first attempt.)

Another reason we wouldn't want to ruin this automatic process is for the
beneficial aspects. We can also laugh at the mere memory of a funny event,
or become excited over the memory of an adventure (or a naked woman.)
That's a good thing also.

I just don't get what people mean by processing emotions. How do you
process an emotion? All I know how to do is feel an emotion.

Fear of the lion (or respect of it) is useful. When the lion isn't
around, there is no need to maintain the fear. Do you have the
physical arousal that comes with fear of lions right now? I don't.
Anger brings physical arousal as well, stimulates the "fight or
flight" reflexes, which can be useful when dealing with the immediate
situation, devastating long term. I find that when I am angry I don't
think as clearly as I can when I'm not aroused, therefore I find it
better not to be aroused by anger most of the time.
People no doubt tire of me mentioning books.
"Anger" by Carol Tavris, ISBN 0-671-25094-9
I got some good out of it.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 05:26:44 PM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 22:55:07 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On 2 Mar 2006 14:14:58 -0800,

wrote:

that's such a tough thing to do... I wish there was a simple ,
effective way to let it go...


I've never understood it either. The question is what exactly are you
letting go of? Anger doesn't really exist in and of itself. It is a
reaction to either a current event, or rather our thought process related
to an event, or a memory.

If something made you angry when it happened, shouldn't the memory of it
also make you angry? How do you rid yourself of the memory? Some

suggest

training yourself not to react emotionally to memories. But that is a

tall

order since the ability to react emotionally to thoughts and memories is
part of our survival instinct. For instance, we react with fear towards
things we encounter that we know from experience to be dangerous. That

is

a good thing. If we didn't have that automatic process we'd keep trying

to

pet that cute lion (assuming we survived the first attempt.)

Another reason we wouldn't want to ruin this automatic process is for the
beneficial aspects. We can also laugh at the mere memory of a funny

event,

or become excited over the memory of an adventure (or a naked woman.)
That's a good thing also.

I just don't get what people mean by processing emotions. How do you
process an emotion? All I know how to do is feel an emotion.



Fear of the lion (or respect of it) is useful. When the lion isn't
around, there is no need to maintain the fear. Do you have the
physical arousal that comes with fear of lions right now? I don't.

Anger brings physical arousal as well, stimulates the "fight or
flight" reflexes, which can be useful when dealing with the immediate
situation, devastating long term. I find that when I am angry I don't
think as clearly as I can when I'm not aroused, therefore I find it
better not to be aroused by anger most of the time.

People no doubt tire of me mentioning books.

"Anger" by Carol Tavris, ISBN 0-671-25094-9

I got some good out of it.

not enough good to let your anger go
.

User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 06:23:44 PM
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:24:52 GMT, Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote:

Fear of the lion (or respect of it) is useful. When the lion isn't
around, there is no need to maintain the fear. Do you have the
physical arousal that comes with fear of lions right now? I don't.

Anger brings physical arousal as well, stimulates the "fight or
flight" reflexes, which can be useful when dealing with the immediate
situation, devastating long term. I find that when I am angry I don't
think as clearly as I can when I'm not aroused, therefore I find it
better not to be aroused by anger most of the time.

True, only extreme phobics would fear the mere memory of a lion. That
makes it seem even odder that some emotions are kicked off automatically by
memories.
--
A little government and a little luck are necessary in life, but only a
fool trusts either of them.
- P.J. O'Rourke
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: letting go of anger 02 Mar 2006 06:38:38 PM
that makes me angry
.





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