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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "No One"
Date: 22 Sep 2004 11:34:24 AM
Object: Liberal Arts Education - major problems.
I'm an accounting senior and i'll complete my degree requirements in
December. I plan to go into auditing or be a staff accountant, to start..
Throughout all of my years of college (2 at a community college, 1 at a 4
year school, 1 at another 2 year school, and then 2 at my current college)
I've got to say that the college system is poor. Why? General
education/liberal arts classes are required.
It should not take 4 years to have enough credits to have a bachelor's
degree, especially in business or accounting. Once I found out what i wanted
to do with my life (accounting), my accounting education can be summed up as
follows:
Principles of Accounting (2 classes)
Intermediate Accounting (2 classes)
Advanced Accounting (1 class)
Taxation (1 class)
Auditing (1 class)
Cost Accounting (1 class)
The only other classes I could rationalize being required would be a class
in public speaking, math, and possibly economics. I feel that after I
complete my degree, I will not be the best accountant I can be because so
much of my time is spent studying for other classes -- Religion & Politics,
Ethics in Computing, Spanish I & II. These things just do not matter, and a
liberal arts education system is producing people that don't know how to do
their jobs properly.
I, however, take the time to review all materials, read the book over and
over, and take accounting seriously. And I still don't feel that I know
enough, yet i'm paying $23,000 per year to go to this "name" school. I am
not as knowledgable in accounting as I could be because of liberal arts
educaton requirements.
I feel a liberal arts education is good for those people who want to go to
college for 4 years, major in something useless like art, and then go and be
a cashier somewhere. No wonder people are in huge debt.
.

User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: Liberal Arts Education - major problems. 22 Sep 2004 08:38:22 PM
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No One wrote:

I think money will solve all of my major problems. Actually, I know it will,
because all of my problems revolve around money. Low self esteem? You need
money. Don't have a woman? You need money. Can't pay your bills? You need
money. Don't have money? You need money. Anyone that tells you money isn't a
necessity in the world is fooling you.

If you read what I wrote, I didn't say money isn't necessary. I said it
wasn't sufficient. Big difference.
And there is also a difference between living good and a good living.
What kind of person do you want to be? I don't see that in your
equation anywhere. There is more to the life than self.
.

User: "No One"

Title: Re: Liberal Arts Education - major problems. 22 Sep 2004 08:27:16 PM
I'll be happy making lots of money and driving a porsche.
TRRRUUUUST ME.
:)
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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No One wrote:

I'm an accounting senior and i'll complete my degree requirements in
December. I plan to go into auditing or be a staff accountant, to

start..


Throughout all of my years of college (2 at a community college, 1 at a

4

year school, 1 at another 2 year school, and then 2 at my current

college)

I've got to say that the college system is poor. Why? General
education/liberal arts classes are required.

It should not take 4 years to have enough credits to have a bachelor's
degree, especially in business or accounting. Once I found out what i

wanted

to do with my life (accounting), my accounting education can be summed

up as

follows:

Principles of Accounting (2 classes)
Intermediate Accounting (2 classes)
Advanced Accounting (1 class)
Taxation (1 class)
Auditing (1 class)
Cost Accounting (1 class)

The only other classes I could rationalize being required would be a

class

in public speaking, math, and possibly economics. I feel that after I
complete my degree, I will not be the best accountant I can be because

so

much of my time is spent studying for other classes -- Religion &

Politics,

Ethics in Computing, Spanish I & II. These things just do not matter,

and a

liberal arts education system is producing people that don't know how to

do

their jobs properly.

I, however, take the time to review all materials, read the book over

and

over, and take accounting seriously. And I still don't feel that I know
enough, yet i'm paying $23,000 per year to go to this "name" school. I

am

not as knowledgable in accounting as I could be because of liberal arts
educaton requirements.

I feel a liberal arts education is good for those people who want to go

to

college for 4 years, major in something useless like art, and then go

and be

a cashier somewhere. No wonder people are in huge debt.



The most important class I ever took was Logic, at a dumpy local
community college. I also bought a book to an intro philosophy class
that I didn't take, and this book was extremely valuable in helping me
learn how to think. This has helped me in my own personal life, I'm not
the miserable wretch I used to be, because I am better able to think
things through on my own and understand the world around me.

The way you're going now, you're going to be like a friend described to
me long ago - one of those geeky accountants driving around in his
Porsche. But you're still not going to be happy, I'm betting.

I do agree with you though that a liberal arts degree does ***** to help
prepare you for the real world in terms of employment. I struggled for
a long time trying to find my way, esp. since I was so fucked socially
and had such a pathetic GPA. So I think you're wise to get a degree in
something like accounting to give you a quick jumpstart. But you'll
need more than money to solve your problems.

.
User: "DaKitty"

Title: Re: Liberal Arts Education - major problems. 22 Sep 2004 09:36:52 PM
"No One" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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I'll be happy making lots of money and driving a porsche.

TRRRUUUUST ME.

:)

not with that attitude you won't.
Most companies, mine included wouldn't give their business to an arrogant
sounding little schmuck like you.
I could care less how much accounting you know, it's my employees
retirements etc,.. that you may end up manipulating, and I can not expect
someone with so little 'human perspective' to be able to understand the
concerns people have. An if you can;t understand the concerns, how could you
possible give good financial advice?
As for Spanish, well, there may be a huge firm with a large segment of it's
employees from Mexico. Their accounting and investment preferences may be
very different from those with a different demographic.
You won;t be driving a Porsche, you;ll be stuck filing tedious tax returns
and be kept away from potential customers, cause you'll never understand now
important it is to flex your style to them. Without being educated about
various aspects of cultures, you wouldn;t have a clue how to flex your
style.
Today it;s nit the number crunchers that you're going to become that make
the big bucks. It's those that keep the customers happy that get the big
bucks, and it takes a lot more than being a numbers hot shot to keep a
customer happy.
So, no, you can't be trusted. You come across as an overconfident little
immature wannabe hot shot. Not a good image to present to your customers or
prospective employers. man, you have a lot to learn, especially in the
areas where you think you don't need to learn.
.



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