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"Janithor" |
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20 Mar 2007 03:07:07 PM |
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losing weight |
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
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| User: "%" |
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20 Mar 2007 03:14:03 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried
fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the
night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I
seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much
for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it.
I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
i quit all sugar and took meds for cholesterol and lost 50 in 3 months ,
and its stayed off 3 years this May
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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| Title: Re: losing weight |
20 Mar 2007 05:21:06 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46003EE2.6080607@comcast.net...
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried
fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the
night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I
seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much
for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it.
I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
i quit all sugar and took meds for cholesterol and lost 50 in 3 months ,
and its stayed off 3 years this May
all sugar? how hard was that? sugar is is EVERYTHING peanutbutter, bbq
sauce, catsup, bread.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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20 Mar 2007 06:29:49 PM |
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On Mar 21, 9:21 am, "spy vs spy" <spyvs...@mad.com> wrote:
"%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46003EE2.6080607@comcast.net...
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried
fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the
night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I
seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much
for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it.
I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
i quit all sugar and took meds for cholesterol and lost 50 in 3 months ,
and its stayed off 3 years this May
all sugar? how hard was that? sugar is is EVERYTHING peanutbutter, bbq
sauce, catsup, bread.
Yup, I think it is. I don't do peanutbutter, however like bbq sauce
and
prolly any number of other sugar type stuff. I don't really care if it
has
sugar or not. I avoid Aspartame (formic acid & formaldehyde which is
what it turns into - highly toxic), and it tastes weird, so I take the
non
diet, sugar coated version instead.
I'm still all for the liquid diet. Water fills space that food would
otherwise.
Add a touch of lemon juice or something (even containing sugar) for
some taste if required.
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: losing weight |
20 Mar 2007 03:19:20 PM |
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Dieting helps by eating healthfully, not just to lose weight, but regularly.
Also, weight loss can be a symptom of depression, as well as a side effect
of a medication.
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:46003EE2.6080607@comcast.net...
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to lose
20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut way back
on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits instead of
processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when I'm hungry vs.
when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night time binging, I
still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would help
too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems like
one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I know
to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more calories than
you consume.
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| User: "jordy" |
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20 Mar 2007 06:59:45 PM |
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On Mar 20, 3:19 pm, "David" <davidd...@cox.net> wrote:
Dieting helps by eating healthfully, not just to lose weight, but regularly.
Also, weight loss can be a symptom of depression, as well as a side effect
of a medication.
losing weight is very tough!!! as soon as you lose a few pounds,
it's really easy to quickly put them back on again... partly, I think,
depression and eating go together... it's easy to want to comfort
yourself with good tasting food, which unfortunatly is often
fattening...
-"Jordy"
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| User: "%" |
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20 Mar 2007 07:04:30 PM |
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losing weight is very tough!!! as soon as you lose a few pounds,
it's really easy to quickly put them back on again
how do you know what's easy for me
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| User: "Janithor" |
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20 Mar 2007 09:46:03 PM |
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% wrote:
losing weight is very tough!!! as soon as you lose a few pounds,
it's really easy to quickly put them back on again
how do you know what's easy for me
Psycho: The name's Francis Sawyer, but everybody calls me Psycho. Any of
you guys call me Francis, and I'll kill you.
Leon: Ooooooh.
Psycho: You just made the list, buddy. Also, I don't like no one
touching my stuff. So just keep your meathooks off. If I catch any of
you guys in my stuff, I'll kill you. And I don't like nobody touching
me. Any of you homos touch me, and I'll kill you.
Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.
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| User: "%" |
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20 Mar 2007 09:54:00 PM |
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how do you know what's easy for me
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| User: "Janithor" |
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20 Mar 2007 10:30:26 PM |
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% wrote:
how do you know what's easy for me
Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.
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| User: "%" |
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20 Mar 2007 10:35:19 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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% wrote:
how do you know what's easy for me
Sergeant Hulka: Lighten up, Francis.
must mean something american ,
i feel for these small think people ,
even their internet acess only allows ,
what the USA let's them see
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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21 Mar 2007 12:24:39 AM |
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On Mar 21, 10:59 am, "jordy" <I...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 20, 3:19 pm, "David" <davidd...@cox.net> wrote:> Dieting helps by eating healthfully, not just to lose weight, but regularly.
Also, weight loss can be a symptom of depression, as well as a side effect
of a medication.
losing weight is very tough!!! as soon as you lose a few pounds,
it's really easy to quickly put them back on again... partly, I think,
depression and eating go together... it's easy to want to comfort
yourself with good tasting food, which unfortunatly is often
fattening...
Depression and _NOT_ eating also go together.
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| User: "slunky" |
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20 Mar 2007 03:28:37 PM |
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_/ David wrote \_
Dieting helps by eating healthfully, not just to lose weight, but regularly.
Define healthfully please.
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| User: "David" |
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20 Mar 2007 03:32:47 PM |
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Main Entry: health·ful
Pronunciation: 'helth-f&l
Function: adjective
1 : good for the health of the body or mind <healthful exercise>
2 : HEALTHY 1
- health·ful·ly /-f&-lE/ adverb
- health·ful·ness noun
synonyms HEALTHFUL, WHOLESOME mean good for the health of the body or mind.
HEALTHFUL suggests a positive contribution to a healthy condition <a
healthful diet>. WHOLESOME applies to whatever benefits, builds up, or
maintains one's physical, mental, or spiritual health <wholesome foods>
<wholesome family entertainment>.
"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ David wrote \_
Dieting helps by eating healthfully, not just to lose weight, but
regularly.
Define healthfully please.
--
-slunky
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| User: "Bacon" |
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20 Mar 2007 05:58:59 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:28:37 GMT, slunky <slunky@globalzero.org>
wrote:
_/ David wrote \_
Dieting helps by eating healthfully, not just to lose weight, but regularly.
Define healthfully please.
he's been reading too much eoygeo
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| User: "Jane" |
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20 Mar 2007 03:21:25 PM |
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On Mar 20, 4:07 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
Eating healthy, stop the PM eating, no beer, switch to sugarless sodas
and keep running. Have your thyroid checked as well. Make sure
you're not hypothyroid, it will slow your metabolism down to a crawl
and it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off for long periods of
time. Running that much you should be dropping weight if you are
eating sensible. Now if you sit at your computer at 10 pm stuffing
junk food in your mouth, well there ya go, your body doesn't have time
to burn it off before you go to bed and while you're sleeping it's
turning into pure fat. Minimize Carbs as well. I don't do that
adkins crap or the south beach crap. Carb turn into sugar if your
eating a lot of carbs do it by lunch time, it gives your body time to
burn it off.
My diet consists of healthy eating after lunch, the junk food is
before lunch. That way my body has all day to burn the junk and then
my body uses the healthier foods in the afternoons. I never eat after
6 pm, I'll never burn it off before bed. I don't eat out of bordom.
Attitude hun, you'll do it, if your telling yourself you'll never do
it, well then, you'll never do it!
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| User: "Charles" |
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21 Mar 2007 09:39:34 PM |
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On 20 Mar 2007 13:21:25 -0700, "Jane" <jarsenal66@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 20, 4:07 pm, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
Eating healthy, stop the PM eating, no beer, switch to sugarless sodas
and keep running. Have your thyroid checked as well. Make sure
you're not hypothyroid, it will slow your metabolism down to a crawl
and it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off for long periods of
time. Running that much you should be dropping weight if you are
eating sensible. Now if you sit at your computer at 10 pm stuffing
junk food in your mouth, well there ya go, your body doesn't have time
to burn it off before you go to bed and while you're sleeping it's
turning into pure fat. Minimize Carbs as well. I don't do that
adkins crap or the south beach crap. Carb turn into sugar if your
eating a lot of carbs do it by lunch time, it gives your body time to
burn it off.
My diet consists of healthy eating after lunch, the junk food is
before lunch. That way my body has all day to burn the junk and then
my body uses the healthier foods in the afternoons. I never eat after
6 pm, I'll never burn it off before bed. I don't eat out of bordom.
Attitude hun, you'll do it, if your telling yourself you'll never do
it, well then, you'll never do it!
I'm guessing that my pint of Haagen-Dazs just before bed wouldn't fit
into your routine.
I should drop it from mine as well, but each evening it seems like
just once more won't hurt.
Charles
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| User: "Janithor" |
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21 Mar 2007 02:07:24 PM |
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Jane wrote:
Eating healthy, stop the PM eating, no beer, switch to sugarless sodas
and keep running. Have your thyroid checked as well. Make sure
you're not hypothyroid, it will slow your metabolism down to a crawl
and it's impossible to lose weight and keep it off for long periods of
time. Running that much you should be dropping weight if you are
eating sensible. Now if you sit at your computer at 10 pm stuffing
junk food in your mouth, well there ya go, your body doesn't have time
to burn it off before you go to bed and while you're sleeping it's
turning into pure fat. Minimize Carbs as well. I don't do that
adkins crap or the south beach crap. Carb turn into sugar if your
eating a lot of carbs do it by lunch time, it gives your body time to
burn it off.
I think I eat more calories when I run. I also do that night time
binging thing. It's weird, because you can really see how we need to
"fuel up" when you do long runs. If I don't have something in my system
before I run, by the end of the run, I have to cram something in me
quickly, you feel like a sponge. I sometimes take a powerbar or even a
banana to eat 1/2 way through the run. When I get home, I inevitably
gorge. Maybe here's where I need to limit myself and actually count how
much I need to take in to make up for the deficit.
My diet consists of healthy eating after lunch, the junk food is
before lunch. That way my body has all day to burn the junk and then
my body uses the healthier foods in the afternoons. I never eat after
6 pm, I'll never burn it off before bed. I don't eat out of bordom.
Attitude hun, you'll do it, if your telling yourself you'll never do
it, well then, you'll never do it!
One of the reasons I started to run was to lose weight. I figured if I
ran enough miles, I'd have to lose weight. It didn't happen like I
thought, I lose some, but no where near where I want to be. I'm not
saying I can't do it, it just doesn't happen on its own, and since I
like to eat so much, it's not going to be easy.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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20 Mar 2007 05:04:39 PM |
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On Mar 21, 7:07 am, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I'm fairly anorexic, and don't eat much as I don't really have a
feeling of hunger anymore. I think what you need to do is drink
more fluids rather than eat.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I don't really do anything except walk from time to time. Drinking
alcohol if anything might lose weight, if it's wine for example as
it goes into the fluid category. I think a large part of what I did
was replace food with a huge quantity of glasses of iced water.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
I don't eat much now, so eat whatever tastes good to me, and that's
often stuff prolly not all that healthy.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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21 Mar 2007 02:17:12 PM |
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the_dawggie wrote:
I'm fairly anorexic, and don't eat much as I don't really have a
feeling of hunger anymore. I think what you need to do is drink
more fluids rather than eat.
That can get you in trouble too if you're just drinking soda. I'm
trying to switch to water as much as possible. I have heard that
feeling hungry can in part actually be thirst, and that simply drinking
some water can help. Don't remember where I saw that.
I don't really do anything except walk from time to time. Drinking
alcohol if anything might lose weight, if it's wine for example as
it goes into the fluid category. I think a large part of what I did
was replace food with a huge quantity of glasses of iced water.
Oops, you beat me to the punch.
I don't eat much now, so eat whatever tastes good to me, and that's
often stuff prolly not all that healthy.
The other problem is that healthy food doesn't have good shelf life and
takes more time & effort to prepare. Packaged crap is just easier.
I've let so much produce go to waste over my lifetime it's sick. I buy
it in order to watch it rot in my fridge, because I'm too lazy to
prepare it.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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21 Mar 2007 09:12:25 PM |
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On Mar 22, 6:17 am, Janithor <Janit...@comcast.net> wrote:
The other problem is that healthy food doesn't have good shelf life and
takes more time & effort to prepare. Packaged crap is just easier.
I've let so much produce go to waste over my lifetime it's sick. I buy
it in order to watch it rot in my fridge, because I'm too lazy to
prepare it.
That's me as well. I don't know when I want to eat it. The
items that make up something that can be tasty (while
not on their own) have a short shelf life. The effort
involved is a decision on the outcome. Last night
simply ordered home delivered pizza.
When the other person who lives here cooks up
"all healthy" but tasteless meat and vege stuff,
I'm not that interested in the veges, and sometimes
none of it. That's prolly a problem.
I'll sometimes make a laksa which involves mushrooms,
spring onions, coriander, bean sprouts (the last two
of those which has a very short shelf life, and I've not
had much success growing coriander). Chillis,
tend to last in the fridge. I make seafood laksa which
for obvious reasons have to make just after you buy
the ingredients. It then keeps for a few days minus
the coriander. Spring onions are like weeds, seem
to be quite content placed in water, coriander ever
with roots still attatched don't seem to work.
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| User: "the_dawggie" |
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21 Mar 2007 09:22:18 PM |
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On Mar 22, 1:12 pm, "the_dawggie" <the_dawg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
involved is a decision on the outcome. Last night
simply ordered home delivered pizza.
Just looked at remains of in fridge.
Ate a cup of "Noodles chicken flavour" instead,
however now wondering if I should have nuked
the remaining pizza.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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21 Mar 2007 02:30:47 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:07:07 +0000, Janithor wrote:
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
Losing weight is an extremely personalized task... and has more to do with
just calories despite what the mainstream seems to think.
I never feel hungry and I average about 1200 calories a day or less and
maintain my current weight... which is about 35lbs overweight. By any
current standard of metabolism I should be starving to death.
The only way I've ever lost weight is on Atkins... but I find it difficult
to maintain that diet for extended periods... I loves me a potato.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: losing weight |
21 Mar 2007 03:03:21 PM |
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Ivan Marsh wrote:
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:07:07 +0000, Janithor wrote:
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
Losing weight is an extremely personalized task... and has more to do with
just calories despite what the mainstream seems to think.
I never feel hungry and I average about 1200 calories a day or less and
maintain my current weight... which is about 35lbs overweight. By any
current standard of metabolism I should be starving to death.
The only way I've ever lost weight is on Atkins... but I find it difficult
to maintain that diet for extended periods... I loves me a potato.
I tried counting for a week, I think I estimated that I consume ~3600
calories/day, and I maintain my weight at 190, I want to be be close to 170.
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| Title: Re: losing weight |
20 Mar 2007 04:41:12 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:07:07 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
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Has anyone here successfully lost weight and kept it off? I want to
lose 20 lbs. I haven't tried regulating my diet, although I have cut
way back on fast food and I'm trying to substitute nuts and dried fruits
instead of processed stuff like chips. I'm trying to be aware of when
I'm hungry vs. when I'm just nervous, although one problem is the night
time binging, I still do that somewhat, I don't know why.
I started running again, when I get serious milage (over 30 week) I seem
to lose ~5-10 lbs, which is a good start, but doesn't seem like much for
so much time put into running. I was hoping quitting drinking would
help too.
I struggle enough trying to regulate my life, counting calories seems
like one of those big chores that there is no way I'm going to do it. I
know to lose weight it's ultimately a question of math: burn more
calories than you consume.
Well, it's math, but it's not just math, as far as I can tell. We've
been trying hard to lose weight for a year, with mixed success. We've
kept off everything we've lost, but it's been hard to lose more.
Quitting drinking would help, you'd think, because alcohol is
basically useless carbohydrates, in a food sense. Nuts and dried
fruits are great from a nutrition point of view, but you have to be
careful. Nuts are nearly all fat, and it's good fat, but it's still
fat. And dried fruit... I love it; it's one of my real weaknesses,
sigh. But think about it... it's concentrated fruit, and if you ate
that much in regular fruit, it would fill you up with water, etc. So
you can eat a lot more dried fruit, and that's a lot more calories.
Here's my recommendation, or what we're trying at the moment anyway.
There's a book called You On A Diet, and it's been very popular
lately, but it's actually a very good book plus a sensible way to eat
that doesn't require counting calories. I'd buy it, try to ignore the
fact that it's written in kind of a cutesy way, and try what they say
for a while, including paying more attention to your waist than your
weight and to what you're eating than to the number of calories in it.
(And report back!)
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: losing weight |
21 Mar 2007 02:14:10 PM |
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Nina wrote:
Well, it's math, but it's not just math, as far as I can tell. We've
been trying hard to lose weight for a year, with mixed success. We've
kept off everything we've lost, but it's been hard to lose more.
It seems to be "just math", but like you say, it's more than that. I
think it's more than that in that the devil is in the details. HOW you
do this, that's the hard part. I've also read cutting back calories
puts your body into conservation mode, so your metabolism slows.
Quitting drinking would help, you'd think, because alcohol is
basically useless carbohydrates, in a food sense. Nuts and dried
fruits are great from a nutrition point of view, but you have to be
careful. Nuts are nearly all fat, and it's good fat, but it's still
fat. And dried fruit... I love it; it's one of my real weaknesses,
sigh. But think about it... it's concentrated fruit, and if you ate
that much in regular fruit, it would fill you up with water, etc. So
you can eat a lot more dried fruit, and that's a lot more calories.
I don't think I eat as much as if it were junk. I looked at the
calories in one of those $.99 big grab bags of Doritos - IIRC, it was
400-500 calories!!! Add in a Snapple, another 400 calories, and you've
got over 800 calories for a bag of chips and a bottle of tea!!! Wow.
Here's my recommendation, or what we're trying at the moment anyway.
There's a book called You On A Diet, and it's been very popular
lately, but it's actually a very good book plus a sensible way to eat
that doesn't require counting calories. I'd buy it, try to ignore the
fact that it's written in kind of a cutesy way, and try what they say
for a while, including paying more attention to your waist than your
weight and to what you're eating than to the number of calories in it.
(And report back!)
OK, I'm going to look for this. What I've been trying to do is to
"listen" to my body, to eat when I'm hungry & to cut back on the nervous
eating. I think portion control is something that works too, at least
what I've heard in the news. I think that's the basis of weight
watchers, and I've heard the argument that one reason Europeans are
thinner is that they eat smaller portions than Americans (e.g. that "big
grab bag of chips - they used to sell smaller sizes, now I only see
these bigger sizes).
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| User: "Nina" |
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| Title: Re: losing weight |
21 Mar 2007 06:55:21 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:14:10 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net>
wrote:
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Nina wrote:
Well, it's math, but it's not just math, as far as I can tell. We've
been trying hard to lose weight for a year, with mixed success. We've
kept off everything we've lost, but it's been hard to lose more.
It seems to be "just math", but like you say, it's more than that. I
think it's more than that in that the devil is in the details. HOW you
do this, that's the hard part. I've also read cutting back calories
puts your body into conservation mode, so your metabolism slows.
Yup. And when you run, you replace fat with muscle, which weighs more
than fat, so the scales may not register that much of a weight loss,
but you may look way better. That's part of what's going on with us,
I think... we're not losing much weight, but we're getting fitter.
Quitting drinking would help, you'd think, because alcohol is
basically useless carbohydrates, in a food sense. Nuts and dried
fruits are great from a nutrition point of view, but you have to be
careful. Nuts are nearly all fat, and it's good fat, but it's still
fat. And dried fruit... I love it; it's one of my real weaknesses,
sigh. But think about it... it's concentrated fruit, and if you ate
that much in regular fruit, it would fill you up with water, etc. So
you can eat a lot more dried fruit, and that's a lot more calories.
I don't think I eat as much as if it were junk. I looked at the
calories in one of those $.99 big grab bags of Doritos - IIRC, it was
400-500 calories!!! Add in a Snapple, another 400 calories, and you've
got over 800 calories for a bag of chips and a bottle of tea!!! Wow.
Even if you don't count calories per se, it's an excellent idea to get
in the habit of looking at calories (although it will just ruin some
foods for you). And with the above numbers... remember that the
average guy is supposed to consume about 2,500 calories per day, so
that's about 3 of those bags of Doritos and three Snapples. Or you
can have a mountain of healthy things and diet peach Snapple. :-)
Here's my recommendation, or what we're trying at the moment anyway.
There's a book called You On A Diet, and it's been very popular
lately, but it's actually a very good book plus a sensible way to eat
that doesn't require counting calories. I'd buy it, try to ignore the
fact that it's written in kind of a cutesy way, and try what they say
for a while, including paying more attention to your waist than your
weight and to what you're eating than to the number of calories in it.
(And report back!)
OK, I'm going to look for this. What I've been trying to do is to
"listen" to my body, to eat when I'm hungry & to cut back on the nervous
eating. I think portion control is something that works too, at least
what I've heard in the news. I think that's the basis of weight
watchers, and I've heard the argument that one reason Europeans are
thinner is that they eat smaller portions than Americans (e.g. that "big
grab bag of chips - they used to sell smaller sizes, now I only see
these bigger sizes).
One good thing related to this is to get a visual idea of what a
serving size really is. For things like meat, one serving is about
the size of a deck of cards. But if you go out and get a steak,
that's often 3 or 4 times what a serving of beef should be.
This is kind of a cute example of this:
http://education.wichita.edu/caduceus/examples/servings/household_items.htm
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