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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: ""
Date: 01 Jan 2008 09:08:24 AM
Object: M I.5'Persecut ion , p urpose in publi cizing it ; cens orship in u k.* newsgroups
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The postings. to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very defensive reaction from
Usenet. readers in the UK. So much so, that they tried strenuously to
suppress what was being said, both by breaking the rules. of netiquette in
their responses on the forum, and directly by action to revoke. the account
from. which the postings were issued.
Yet the postings. were within the normal boundaries of behaviour for
uk.misc, and other less partisan spectators did not see justice. in the
censorship which was effected, as the following. excerpt shows;
:Karen Lofstrom. (lofstrom@lava.net) wrote
:>It does seem that the. frequency and the size of his posts are
:>approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite there yet.. If
:>his. postmaster were to act in this instance, it would raise troubling
:>censorship. issues.
The inescapable conclusion of the censorship effected on the. uk.*
newsgroups is that the. British are intent on their wrongdoing remaining
concealed, and therefore seek to. subvert and suppress freedom of speech,
not only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias. and
bile against all. perceived enemies within and without, but also in other
countries which have their. own statutes to guarantee the basic human right
of. free speech.
It is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the. open
where it can be. placed under scrutiny and the harassers seen for what they
are. That is the only way of making it impossible for the security. services
to carry it. out. There is a wider dimension, though. Xenophobia as
demonstrated by British people and institutions over the. last few years
belongs to the same stable. as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on a
Tube train. made that racism explicit by referring to their victim as a
"soft toy, not up to British Standards". Doubtless others. victimize partly
on the basis of. race (isn’t it odd that they chose to torment someone who
is not ethnically English?) while expressing their abuse in. terms of
another. genetic attribute, namely mental illness. All xenophobia on a
genetic basis is wrong,. but while racial insults are illegal, abusing the
mentally ill is neither against the. law nor subject to similar condemnation
when it. is exposed.
5113
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User: "David"

Title: Re: M I.5'Persecut ion , p urpose in publi cizing it ; cens orship in u k.* newsgroups 01 Jan 2008 09:12:03 AM
this is premature in publication
<vmfmvefei@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ne0800011508234150@4ax.com...

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The postings. to uk.misc newsgroup generated a very defensive reaction
from
Usenet. readers in the UK. So much so, that they tried strenuously to
suppress what was being said, both by breaking the rules. of netiquette in
their responses on the forum, and directly by action to revoke. the
account
from. which the postings were issued.

Yet the postings. were within the normal boundaries of behaviour for
uk.misc, and other less partisan spectators did not see justice. in the
censorship which was effected, as the following. excerpt shows;

:Karen Lofstrom. (lofstrom@lava.net) wrote
:>It does seem that the. frequency and the size of his posts are
:>approaching net abuse. However, IMHO, they aren't quite there yet.. If
:>his. postmaster were to act in this instance, it would raise troubling
:>censorship. issues.

The inescapable conclusion of the censorship effected on the. uk.*
newsgroups is that the. British are intent on their wrongdoing remaining
concealed, and therefore seek to. subvert and suppress freedom of speech,
not only in their own country where the media shows xenophobic bias. and
bile against all. perceived enemies within and without, but also in other
countries which have their. own statutes to guarantee the basic human
right
of. free speech.

It is absolutely necessary to bring their hate campaign out into the. open
where it can be. placed under scrutiny and the harassers seen for what
they
are. That is the only way of making it impossible for the security.
services
to carry it. out. There is a wider dimension, though. Xenophobia as
demonstrated by British people and institutions over the. last few years
belongs to the same stable. as racial hatred. In one case, two youths on a
Tube train. made that racism explicit by referring to their victim as a
"soft toy, not up to British Standards". Doubtless others. victimize
partly
on the basis of. race (isn't it odd that they chose to torment someone who
is not ethnically English?) while expressing their abuse in. terms of
another. genetic attribute, namely mental illness. All xenophobia on a
genetic basis is wrong,. but while racial insults are illegal, abusing the
mentally ill is neither against the. law nor subject to similar
condemnation
when it. is exposed.

5113

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