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"Filpriros" |
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05 Dec 2004 06:44:58 PM |
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Maria and Me |
I got Maria deep red plaid Christmas pajamas and in the same material a
Christmas nightgown for myself . . . now I am waiting for her to come home and
worrying she will not like them or that we are twins. She is into Good
Charolette these days and black bracelets with small spikes, well not spikes,
but metal things.
I should be working but I am going around in my head about bidding on a
waterford pitcher on ebay . . .I sold all my mama's furniture, beautiful
waterford, mirrors, marble tables, 150 year old oak dinning table that sat 20
to give John money to support his education at Berkeley. I was crazed. I let
myself lose all of maria's legacy from her grandmama. I want to get the
pitcher to start replacing it. Silly eh, today she could care less (unless it
had a good charlotte rather than a Waterford insigna).
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job prospect,
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
Rosena
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 07:10:13 PM |
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"Filpriros" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041205194458.21692.00001311@mb-m14.aol.com...
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job
prospect,
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
Rosena
That's how I'd do it!
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| User: "Filpriros" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 11:47:38 PM |
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That's how I'd do it!
I got grown up and chickened out -- time, plan -- then the big fling, just
later and in more calm state.
Hope you are okay eh?
Rosena
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
06 Dec 2004 12:53:12 AM |
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Yea, it was a hell of a wake up call when I filed for my bankruptcy. It was
the first time I'd sat down and piled all my debt together. Then when it
turned out to be something like $15k. It was everything from never wanting
to leave my apartment so I always ordered delivery food (which is pretty
much only pizza and chinese) to impulse buying old computer equipment for
which I had an irrational fondness. An impulse digital camera, bike gear, a
whole bunch of car repairs to a car that got totalled in August...
So now I'm in a position where all the credit card offers have $59
processing fees and $99 yearly fees. Had to get my father to co-sign on the
loan to replace the car I lost. Learning to budget with real money and not
just calling in for the remaining balance on the pile of plastic....then -
ok I'll use this one.
Finally got to the point where the minimum payments exceeded an income that
was already hampered by a kind of mild agoraphobia. So I stopped paying,
retained a lawyer so that I could just tell them who they needed to talk to.
A couple of months later I had the rest of the money to him and we filed.
Moved to a much cheaper place (a totally ghetto house in a totally ghetto
neighborhood).
But I'm happier, poorer and a much less wound up individual.
Oh yea, the DWAI (driving with prescription drugs in my bag...then a
mandatory UA at the police station, which turned up THC even though I hadn't
smoked since a party about 5 days prior) *really* put a hurt on my finances.
I had to go to my parents for the cost of a lawyer...believe me a DUID is
serious and I really need a good lawyer to ditch that charge. I estimate
that to be about a $4k fun ride total. It's over now, except the permant
charge on my MVR.
*sigh*
Now I'm ranting about my money *****.
Don't buy the Waterford, a chunk of glass won't be that cool. The other
stuff you had sounded sweet but don't mourn the loss unless you've got a
time machine to change it.
"Filpriros" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041206004738.21805.00001401@mb-m14.aol.com...
That's how I'd do it!
I got grown up and chickened out -- time, plan -- then the big fling, just
later and in more calm state.
Hope you are okay eh?
Rosena
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| User: "audrey in velvet" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
06 Dec 2004 12:58:21 AM |
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On 6/12/04 6:53 am, in article 31idv2F3ate1dU1@individual.net, "Franz
Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
Yea, it was a hell of a wake up call when I filed for my bankruptcy. It was
the first time I'd sat down and piled all my debt together. Then when it
turned out to be something like $15k. It was everything from never wanting
to leave my apartment so I always ordered delivery food (which is pretty
much only pizza and chinese) to impulse buying old computer equipment for
which I had an irrational fondness. An impulse digital camera, bike gear, a
whole bunch of car repairs to a car that got totalled in August...
So now I'm in a position where all the credit card offers have $59
processing fees and $99 yearly fees. Had to get my father to co-sign on the
loan to replace the car I lost. Learning to budget with real money and not
just calling in for the remaining balance on the pile of plastic....then -
ok I'll use this one.
Finally got to the point where the minimum payments exceeded an income that
was already hampered by a kind of mild agoraphobia. So I stopped paying,
retained a lawyer so that I could just tell them who they needed to talk to.
A couple of months later I had the rest of the money to him and we filed.
Moved to a much cheaper place (a totally ghetto house in a totally ghetto
neighborhood).
But I'm happier, poorer and a much less wound up individual.
Oh yea, the DWAI (driving with prescription drugs in my bag...then a
mandatory UA at the police station, which turned up THC even though I hadn't
smoked since a party about 5 days prior) *really* put a hurt on my finances.
I had to go to my parents for the cost of a lawyer...believe me a DUID is
serious and I really need a good lawyer to ditch that charge. I estimate
that to be about a $4k fun ride total. It's over now, except the permant
charge on my MVR.
*sigh*
Now I'm ranting about my money *****.
Don't buy the Waterford, a chunk of glass won't be that cool. The other
stuff you had sounded sweet but don't mourn the loss unless you've got a
time machine to change it.
sounds pretty awful. but somehow i think youll be alright.
"Filpriros" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041206004738.21805.00001401@mb-m14.aol.com...
That's how I'd do it!
I got grown up and chickened out -- time, plan -- then the big fling, just
later and in more calm state.
Hope you are okay eh?
Rosena
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
06 Dec 2004 02:18:43 AM |
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"audrey in velvet" <lindauermadness@mydotcomaddress.com> wrote in message
news:BDD9B38D.35C7%lindauermadness@mydotcomaddress.com...
On 6/12/04 6:53 am, in article 31idv2F3ate1dU1@individual.net, "Franz
Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
sounds pretty awful. but somehow i think youll be alright.
I've already staked out both the alley and the dumpster I'll be using.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 07:28:33 PM |
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Filpriros <filpriros@aol.com> wrote:
Charolette these days and black bracelets with small spikes, well not spikes,
but metal things.
yuck (IMNSO)
I sold all my mama's furniture, beautiful
waterford, mirrors, marble tables...
to give John money to support his education at Berkeley.
This is a detail I did not know. That kind of "betrayal bond"
is excruciatingly painful (no exact personal parallels, phrase
is from the Patrick Carnes book of that name)
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
No especial wisdom on this one.
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NYLXS GNU/Linux Open House Monday Dec. 6th Brooklyn NY
Come one, come all: http://www.nylxs.com
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| User: "Filpriros" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 11:46:43 PM |
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Hey you
Charolette these days and black bracelets with small spikes, well not
spikes,
but metal things.
yuck (IMNSO)
Me too, but she looked real sweet in her plaid jamas :) She is just trying to
find herself. At least no piercing etc.
I sold all my mama's furniture, beautiful>> waterford, mirrors, marble
tables...>> to give John money to support his education at Berkeley.
This is a detail I did not know. That kind of "betrayal bond"
is excruciatingly painful (no exact personal parallels, phrase
is from the Patrick Carnes book of that name)
Yes -- it stings still, the hurt. But, I am trying to move on.
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
No especial wisdom on this one.
I didn't buy. I am waiting but I think will re-arrange budget for a small
waterford pitcher. Save a bit, plan.
Hope you are well :)
Rosena
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| User: "Tim Kett" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 07:00:52 PM |
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No. It is best to save the $$ for heat and food :-)
Filpriros <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in article
<20041205194458.21692.00001311@mb-m14.aol.com>...
I got Maria deep red plaid Christmas pajamas and in the same material a
Christmas nightgown for myself . . . now I am waiting for her to come
home and
worrying she will not like them or that we are twins. She is into Good
Charolette these days and black bracelets with small spikes, well not
spikes,
but metal things.
I should be working but I am going around in my head about bidding on a
waterford pitcher on ebay . . .I sold all my mama's furniture, beautiful
waterford, mirrors, marble tables, 150 year old oak dinning table that
sat 20
to give John money to support his education at Berkeley. I was crazed.
I let
myself lose all of maria's legacy from her grandmama. I want to get the
pitcher to start replacing it. Silly eh, today she could care less
(unless it
had a good charlotte rather than a Waterford insigna).
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job
prospect,
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
Rosena
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| User: "Filpriros" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 11:48:02 PM |
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No. It is best to save the $$ for heat and food :-)
I know -- I didn't do it.
Best
Rosena
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| User: "K-9" |
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05 Dec 2004 10:11:43 PM |
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On 06 Dec 2004 00:44:58 GMT, (Filpriros) <barked the
following>
I got Maria deep red plaid Christmas pajamas and in the same material a
Christmas nightgown for myself . . . now I am waiting for her to come home and
worrying she will not like them or that we are twins. She is into Good
Charolette these days and black bracelets with small spikes, well not spikes,
but metal things.
I should be working but I am going around in my head about bidding on a
waterford pitcher on ebay . . .I sold all my mama's furniture, beautiful
waterford, mirrors, marble tables, 150 year old oak dinning table that sat 20
to give John money to support his education at Berkeley. I was crazed. I let
myself lose all of maria's legacy from her grandmama. I want to get the
pitcher to start replacing it. Silly eh, today she could care less (unless it
had a good charlotte rather than a Waterford insigna).
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job prospect,
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
Rosena
i hope you get to do some warm coco
(microwave popcorn also works)
some of the ideas behind 150 year old oak tables and Waterford crystal
are worth holding on to, and keeping alive in spirit.
have you had chance to drive to washington park and see the light
display ?
have you guyz gotten any computer games, like sega or x-box ?
i don't know at the moment what is the hot gaming platform
a good charlotte
hmmm
never heard of it .
(sowy, couldn't resist..)
this evening i strung lights outside of the house
K-9
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| User: "Filpriros" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
05 Dec 2004 11:37:12 PM |
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Hey you!
Well guess what? Maria loved the pajamas and she and I are twins! (well, mine
is a nightgown). And we did have hot coco as we watched Harry Potter with just
the Christmas lights glowing.
Yeah, things to hold on too in old oak tables eh? I am going to get the
pitcher next check after i budget everything (not on auction but from a store).
It feels right.
I got Maria a playstation2 for Christmas but I am outlawing the really violent
or icky games like Vice City. Found others that are good.
I saw Washington Park today and I am going to take her there. How Are you???
Honest? Having good holiday time I hope.
Best
me
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Maria and Me |
06 Dec 2004 01:13:21 AM |
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"Filpriros" <filpriros@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041206003712.21805.00001396@mb-m14.aol.com...
I got Maria a playstation2 for Christmas but I am outlawing the really
violent
or icky games like Vice City. Found others that are good.
The latest is Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas...Vice City sucked.
It teaches morals, I make bank everytime I blast a drug dealer.
It's also sucked up so much of me and my video-game-addict friend's time
lately, that's the real grand theft.
The Gran Turismo series is all about simulating the driving experience as
real as possible, it may not be her thing but it *really* does teach driving
skills. My friend swears that the knowledge he got from hours of playing
that game helped him avoid dying when the rear end of his car (oversteer)
almost through him into a guard rail. By driving cars with major oversteer
like the Dodge Viper in the game he knew how to recover control. It's like
taking a virtual driving lesson.
That and the endless tweaking of car setting is great for obsessive car
tweaking nuts.
But as I said, it may not be a game that she would even spend more than 10
minutes with. And it's not really her age bracket...but it's totally non
violent.
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| User: "K-9" |
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06 Dec 2004 03:26:52 AM |
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On 06 Dec 2004 05:37:12 GMT, (Filpriros) <barked the
following>
Hey you!
Well guess what? Maria loved the pajamas and she and I are twins! (well, mine
is a nightgown). And we did have hot coco as we watched Harry Potter with just
the Christmas lights glowing.
I wondered if there was any peace between you two these days.
Yeah, things to hold on too in old oak tables eh?
Uh huh. I am exercising artistic liscense.
I am going to get the
pitcher next check after i budget everything (not on auction but from a store).
It feels right.
I got Maria a playstation2 for Christmas but I am outlawing the really violent
or icky games like Vice City. Found others that are good.
I bet there are a number of games that are not really violent
dont forget a 32 inch plasma hdtv to go with it...
I saw Washington Park today and I am going to take her there. How Are you???
Honest? Having good holiday time I hope.
I am alive.
I turn off the mind and just do. Shopping and the day.
When do classes end for you this Winter break ?.
Best
me
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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05 Dec 2004 08:50:17 PM |
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On 2004-12-06, Filpriros wrote:
I think, what the hell, when out of work in a few months with no job prospect,
best to bid on a frivolous waterford pitcher??? I think. You?
Foolish idea, unwise. The unnecessary inviting of trouble in the pursuit
of the unattainable. To just entertain the idea is to foster the suffering
of nostalgia by the wish for its consolation. The thought should be
abandoned.
Buy something practical like a beautiful Italian pressure cooker and teach
Maria how to make preserves. Or learn together with her. Or something
like that, something that can be justified no matter how it is examined.
Ethics and logic beats passion and aggression anytime, everytime. Leave
the passion of nostalgia to serendipity and the aggression of collecting
or auctions to emergency and the result of any decision will be more
balanced. Buying such a pitcher is just the buying of unpleasant feelings.
That's what I think.
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Extend loving kindness
to all creatures.
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| User: "Filpriros" |
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05 Dec 2004 11:42:52 PM |
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Okay Bev, slow upppppppp. I know it is a passion thing, but it is not a living
in past. Maria had a legacy I ripped her off from.
I am compromising, I am not buying at auction, but saving up and then getting
the pitcher . . . .BUT
yes, we are going to bake a coffee cake together and build a giner bread house.
Ethics and logic beats passion and aggression anytime, everytime.
Nope -- think with head first, and then with your heart. One needs passion and
logic, aggression that is ethical aggression thus bounded and controlled for
the right time.
Leave>the passion of nostalgia to serendipity and the aggression of collecting
or auctions to emergency and the result of any decision will be more
balanced.
Yes _ I plead guilty to not being balanced. But I refrained tonight and will
plan what I do in calm.
Buying such a pitcher is just the buying of unpleasant feelings.
Actually, it is a happy feeling to replace what her grandmama would give her.
John is the bad taste, and that I must work and work to forget, dismiss, push
away and leave behind.
How are you? How is my friend?
me
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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06 Dec 2004 01:31:54 AM |
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On 2004-12-06, Filpriros wrote:
I know it is a passion thing, but it is not a living in past.
Maria had a legacy I ripped her off from.
No, that's not what happened. That's a ridiculous way to describe it.
yes, we are going to bake a coffee cake together and build a giner
bread house.
That works.
Ethics and logic beats passion and aggression anytime, everytime.
Nope -- think with head first, and then with your heart. One needs passion and
logic, aggression that is ethical aggression thus bounded and controlled for
the right time.
I believe passion distorts the senses and thought and aggression is just
for emergencies, fight/flight, extreme stress. And when passion mixes with
aggression, ethics and logic are impossible, because of reaction to
distortion. I think the 'head' and 'heart' are just one thing, mind.
Yes _ I plead guilty to not being balanced. But I refrained tonight and will
plan what I do in calm.
Good.
Buying such a pitcher is just the buying of unpleasant feelings.
Actually, it is a happy feeling to replace what her grandmama would give her.
I don't think that would happen. I think there would only be a happy
feeling upon acquisition, that replacement is not possible, that
the only thing that really can be done, or can happen, is renewal. I
suspect a replacement pitcher could become a reminder of a pitcher lost
and why.
How are you? How is my friend?
Everything is okay. The mountains here are frosted with fresh snow, down
quite far. Today was sunny and mild. Just seeing that made me feel good
while riding the train. I'm down to 'mild depression' now with the doctor,
and am still improving. There's two cats and they seem to be getting
along well, as far as I can tell. I am starting to set goals or at least
they seem to be formulating, in a way. I've been studying a lot and am now
eager to do a long retreat. Eagerness is a strange sensation after not
feeling it in so long. Everybody else seems to be okay too. It's never
possible to be sure about anyone else, but that's how it seems to me.
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| User: "neoholistic" |
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06 Dec 2004 12:53:39 AM |
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Filpriros wrote:
I sold all my mama's furniture, beautiful
waterford, mirrors, marble tables, 150 year old oak dinning table that sat 20
to give John money to support his education at Berkeley. I was crazed. I let
myself lose all of maria's legacy from her grandmama.
oh :-(
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