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"yellow river" |
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10 Oct 2004 04:04:42 PM |
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maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient forme |
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally
discover the only way out...
- yellow river
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
10 Oct 2004 04:35:24 PM |
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"yellow river" <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message
news:Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally
discover the only way out...
- yellow river
i knew you would find me sooner or later
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 12:15:07 AM |
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In message <Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
yellow river <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> writes
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning
my futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to
finally discover the only way out...
Have you considered Judaism? You get to grow a beard that way. Islam's
good for that too, but I gather Moslems aren't too popular in the USA.
Mind you, Sikhism's the best - you'd have to grow a beard. I'm assuming
that one can convert to become a Sikh; it takes two or three years to
become a Jew.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 08:43:37 AM |
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Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<A9ucQacbbhaBFwcN@harding.demon.co.uk>...
In message <Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
yellow river <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> writes
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning
my futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to
finally discover the only way out...
Have you considered Judaism?
That's a good suggestion.He does seem to like Jesus.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
10 Oct 2004 04:15:08 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:04:42 GMT, yellow river
<huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote:
<(((*> the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
<(((*> that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
<(((*> depression and anxiety.
<(((*>
<(((*> i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
<(((*> it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
<(((*> submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
<(((*> futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
<(((*> only way to complete healing, to a full life.
<(((*>
<(((*> maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally
<(((*> discover the only way out...
Jesus was a Jew.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 10:20:14 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 17:15:08 -0400, waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett wrote:
Jesus was a Jew.
I see people say this all the time and they never explain it.
Well if Jesus was a Jew, then why did he have a Mexican name?
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SELF-EVIDENT, adj. Evident to one's self and to nobody else.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "=^.^=" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 02:18:40 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 21:04:42 GMT, yellow river
<huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote:
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think=20
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from=20
depression and anxiety.
nope. only 10 grams IV potassium cyanide push does that
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but=20
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete=20
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my=
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futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my=20
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
eh, check out Islam. be sure to interpret the Quoran properly, tho
it is said to do so you need to be able to read it, untranslated...
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally=
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discover the only way out...
go on a personal Hajj. do a walkabout. get thee to the wasteland
....hole-up in the forest. that works, too
- yellow river
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| User: "JohnM" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 01:01:25 PM |
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Well faith might help in addition to the usual treatments. If you have
guilt feelings that will only hinder you I think. Maybe a 12 step program
of some sort? Is emotions anonymous 12 step? A lot of people with mental
illnesses have problems with religion. I think as a group, generally, we
all get too serious about it. But then we take everything too seriously. I
hope your faith helps you to feel better.
"yellow river" <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message
news:Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally
discover the only way out...
- yellow river
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 01:47:29 PM |
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there's a place in Toronto called " The Self Help Clearing House "
that boasts over 500 known 12 step groups and if you can't find one you like
they'll help you start a new one
"JohnM" <scoobyru@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:VTzad.3933$tn5.2214959@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
Well faith might help in addition to the usual treatments. If you have
guilt feelings that will only hinder you I think. Maybe a 12 step program
of some sort? Is emotions anonymous 12 step? A lot of people with mental
illnesses have problems with religion. I think as a group, generally, we
all get too serious about it. But then we take everything too seriously.
I
hope your faith helps you to feel better.
"yellow river" <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message
news:Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally
discover the only way out...
- yellow river
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficientfor me |
11 Oct 2004 04:14:00 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
yellow river wrote:
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him. perhaps that is my
only way to complete healing, to a full life.
maybe i was predestined to go through all this suffering only to finally
discover the only way out...
- yellow river
http://www.creator.org/
(Oh wait, someone in your bloodline already violated commandment #5,
never mind.)
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| User: "sortfaar" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 07:56:37 AM |
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yellow river <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message news:<Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him.
Are you sure you don't just need a good Master/Mistress???
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| User: "yellow river" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficientfor me |
11 Oct 2004 08:26:44 AM |
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sortfaar wrote:
yellow river <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message news:<Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
depression and anxiety.
i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him.
Are you sure you don't just need a good Master/Mistress???
a "mistress" would make me feel better and keep my thoughts off my
problems, but she wouldn't cure my depression and anxiety...
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficient for me |
11 Oct 2004 08:38:41 AM |
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:26:44 GMT, yellow river
<huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote:
<(((*> sortfaar wrote:
<(((*> > yellow river <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message news:<Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
<(((*> >
<(((*> >>the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
<(((*> >>that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
<(((*> >>depression and anxiety.
<(((*> >>
<(((*> >>i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
<(((*> >>it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
<(((*> >>submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
<(((*> >>futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him.
<(((*> >
<(((*> > Are you sure you don't just need a good Master/Mistress???
<(((*>
<(((*> a "mistress" would make me feel better and keep my thoughts off my
<(((*> problems, but she wouldn't cure my depression and anxiety...
But she'd give you something to be anxious about.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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| User: "yellow river" |
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| Title: Re: maybe the secular approach to mental health isn't sufficientfor me |
11 Oct 2004 08:51:42 AM |
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waitingforgodot@samuel.beckett wrote:
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 13:26:44 GMT, yellow river
<huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote:
<(((*> sortfaar wrote:
<(((*> > yellow river <huangmYR@earthYRlink.YRnet> wrote in message news:<Kthad.1462$Bw1.1021@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
<(((*> >
<(((*> >>the meds have helped me, and they still are. but i'm beginning to think
<(((*> >>that they can't take me all the way to the goal, becoming free from
<(((*> >>depression and anxiety.
<(((*> >>
<(((*> >>i don't think it's wise to reject the secular psychiatric approach, but
<(((*> >>it alone may not suffice. maybe i need to get back to God, in complete
<(((*> >>submission (to Jesus not only as Savior but also as Lord), abandoning my
<(((*> >>futile selfish ambitions and living to serve Him.
<(((*> >
<(((*> > Are you sure you don't just need a good Master/Mistress???
<(((*>
<(((*> a "mistress" would make me feel better and keep my thoughts off my
<(((*> problems, but she wouldn't cure my depression and anxiety...
But she'd give you something to be anxious about.
yes.
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