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CyberDroog wrote:

On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 07:56:09 +0100, Alan Harding

<Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>

wrote:

And had an open bottle of tequila in the car for company.

Does that really add any gravity to the situation? He was driving
while
intoxicated, period. That he had an open bottle in the car and

belligerent when pulled over is part and parcel of alcohol
intoxication.

Maybe that is why marijuana should be legalized. People who are high

are

much less likely to be belligerent.

But as an aside, is there no one here who has done something terrible

while

depressed and, although now ashamed of it, attribute the act to their
depression?

I suspect there are many glass houses in a.s.d. I know I live in

But

then maybe I'm unusual in that my bouts of depression don't exactly

leave

me with a feeling of deep love and compassion for the world around

the thing is that I don't think that people say jews are out to
destroy the world unless they really believe that deep down... alcohol
just brings to the surface what people feel deep down, I don't think it
could create a feeling that is not inside the person to begin with...
saying that, I do hope Mel gets the help and support he needs...

-"jordy"

too much alcohol gives me the feeling that i can't walk ,
and that feeling isn't in me if i don't have any alcohol

"because i'm dry
i'll walk the line"

When my state decided to "get tough with
drunk drivers", some folks convicted of
manslaughter, for example, got early
releases to make room in the prison for
drunk drivers. What to do, what to do?

Alan Harding wrote:

I hope he gets the kick up the arse he needs. A fine's going to make
no difference; what's a few hundred dollars to a multi-millionaire? He
needs a spell in prison to show him the difference between right and
wrong, which he doesn't seem to know yet. Prison is apparently a
rarely enforced option.

You may have read that the prisons in the US are quite full. We have one
of the highest numbers, per capita, of residents imprisoned compared to
other industrial nations. And still, the construction boom (and it's a
big one) hasn't yet caught up with the public's demand to jail everyone
who "needs a spell in prison to show him the difference between right
and wrong".

When my state decided to "get tough with drunk drivers", some folks
convicted of manslaughter, for example, got early releases to make room
in the prison for drunk drivers. What to do, what to do?

Gayle

In article <Mdzr68TIYv0EFw7f@harding.demon.co.uk>,
Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

I hope he gets the kick up the arse he needs. A fine's going to make no
difference; what's a few hundred dollars to a multi-millionaire? He
needs a spell in prison to show him the difference between right and
wrong, which he doesn't seem to know yet. Prison is apparently a rarely
enforced option.

I was reading somewhere that California recently enacted a law imposing
mandatory jail time for DUI + speeding more than 20 MPH over the limit.
He was going 87 in a 45 zone. I wasn't able to run down the actual law
(all that stuff is online but very hard to read) so I don't know how
true what I read is, but in any case, I'm with you here. Prison is
indeed a rarely enforced option for first offense DUI, but the
constellation of aggravating circumstances here is substantial.

Why should Mel Gibson go to jail for a first offense when virtually
no one else does? I think the only people who do go to jail are
those who caused an accident.

On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 08:23:52 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

CyberDroog wrote:

But as an aside, is there no one here who has done something terrible while
depressed and, although now ashamed of it, attribute the act to their
depression?

I haven't, and don't.

I hope you realize how lucky you are. For many of us depression has at
times deepened to near or past the point of psychosis.

I hope he gets the kick up the arse he needs. A fine's going to make no
difference; what's a few hundred dollars to a multi-millionaire? He
needs a spell in prison to show him the difference between right and
wrong, which he doesn't seem to know yet. Prison is apparently a rarely
enforced option.

Wouldn't that be the direct, and unfair, opposite of the law going light on
celebrities?

Why should Mel Gibson go to jail for a first offense when
virtually no one else does?

I think the only people who do go to jail are
those who caused an accident.