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28 Jul 2005 09:01:48 PM |
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More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my life. :(
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- millipede man
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
29 Jul 2005 06:32:31 AM |
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"millipede man" <huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote in message
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I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of my
life. :(
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- millipede man
Change meds.
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| User: "--SorrtaLily b" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
29 Jul 2005 10:50:11 AM |
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oh yea, like that will work.
NOT
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| "millipede man" <huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote in message
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| > I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
| > the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
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| > I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my
| > life. :(
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| > --
| > - millipede man
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| Change meds.
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
29 Jul 2005 10:50:21 PM |
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"--SorrtaLily b" <uep.donn@near.f1arr> wrote in message
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oh yea, like that will work.
NOT
??? Changing medication is the usual thing to do when a particular
antidepressant isn't working well.
Tell your doctor how you are doing, MM, and ask him if you should try
a different medication.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| "millipede man" <huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote in message
| news:g6gGe.9922$dU3.4463@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| > I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before
increasing
| > the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
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| > I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the
rest of
my
| > life. :(
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| > --
| > - millipede man
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| Change meds.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
01 Aug 2005 04:11:53 AM |
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Nom dePlume <nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
Changing medication is the usual thing to do when a particular
antidepressant isn't working well.
Tell your doctor how you are doing, MM, and ask him if you should try
a different medication.
Yes. Lexapro was weird for me but did wonders for others.
The "hypomania" you (MM) mentioned I don't like. It's
not easy to elicit cluefulness from many pdocs. But this
is something you should mention.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "David" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
28 Jul 2005 09:27:00 PM |
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It's probably a good idea to stay in contact with your doctor about how
you're doing, especially as you adjust the medication. Do you feel like
the meds are helping, some of the time?
Sometimes I think if we spend less attention on ourselves the other
problems will work themselves out.
millipede man wrote:
I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my life. :(
--
- millipede man
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| User: "Kristy" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
30 Jul 2005 04:16:01 AM |
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I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my life. :(
Probably. I find that anti-depressants make me more depressed so I'm trying
to just cope with positive thinking and light exercise. I'm still not happy
but anti-depressants just send me down a dark spiraling whole so I've given
up on them.
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
30 Jul 2005 04:54:53 PM |
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"Kristy" <Wembeley@noneayobiz.com> wrote in message
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I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before
increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the
rest of
my life. :(
Probably. I find that anti-depressants make me more depressed so
I'm trying
to just cope with positive thinking and light exercise. I'm still
not happy
but anti-depressants just send me down a dark spiraling whole so
I've given
up on them.
Most psychiatrists prescribe antidepressants that work by increasing
serotonin concentration. Not all cases of depression respond to this
kind of medication, yet you seldom find a psychiatrist who is aware of
this fact, or proceeds in a different direction. Is it possible that
yours is one of these cases? If so, there are a variety of other
medications available.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "Youll Never Know" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
30 Jul 2005 08:58:11 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:54:53 -0700, "Nom dePlume"
<nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
"Kristy" <Wembeley@noneayobiz.com> wrote in message
news:k7adnZuMJvCwIHbfRVn-3A@adelphia.com...
I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before
increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the
rest of
my life. :(
Probably. I find that anti-depressants make me more depressed so
I'm trying
to just cope with positive thinking and light exercise. I'm still
not happy
but anti-depressants just send me down a dark spiraling whole so
I've given
up on them.
Most psychiatrists prescribe antidepressants that work by increasing
serotonin concentration. Not all cases of depression respond to this
kind of medication, yet you seldom find a psychiatrist who is aware of
this fact, or proceeds in a different direction. Is it possible that
yours is one of these cases? If so, there are a variety of other
medications available.
Yes!
Interesting stuff on here
http://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/brainstorm/
especially this one
Why Settle for Silver, When You Can Go for Gold? Response vs. Recovery
as the Goal of Antidepressant Therapy
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
31 Jul 2005 12:45:46 AM |
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"You'll Never Know" <spam@spamspamspam.org.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:54:53 -0700, "Nom dePlume"
<nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
Most psychiatrists prescribe antidepressants that work by
increasing
serotonin concentration. Not all cases of depression respond to
this
kind of medication, yet you seldom find a psychiatrist who is aware
of
this fact, or proceeds in a different direction. Is it possible
that
yours is one of these cases? If so, there are a variety of other
medications available.
Yes!
Interesting stuff on here
http://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/brainstorm/
especially this one
Why Settle for Silver, When You Can Go for Gold? Response vs.
Recovery
as the Goal of Antidepressant Therapy
The article has the right idea, but it also demonstrates the kind of
tunnel-vision I'm talking about. The bold new approach seems to
consist of increasing norepinephrine as well as serotonin. While that
is certainly useful for many people, it falls far short of addressing
the wide range of treatment strategies available.
Kristy, and YNY, you might want to visit my Web site for an overview
of the available medications for depression. There are a *lot* more
than most psychiatrists know about.
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "Youll Never Know" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
01 Aug 2005 04:58:16 PM |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:45:46 -0700, "Nom dePlume"
<nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
"You'll Never Know" <spam@spamspamspam.org.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:54:53 -0700, "Nom dePlume"
<nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
Most psychiatrists prescribe antidepressants that work by
increasing
serotonin concentration. Not all cases of depression respond to
this
kind of medication, yet you seldom find a psychiatrist who is aware
of
this fact, or proceeds in a different direction. Is it possible
that
yours is one of these cases? If so, there are a variety of other
medications available.
Yes!
Interesting stuff on here
http://www.psychiatrist.com/pcc/brainstorm/
especially this one
Why Settle for Silver, When You Can Go for Gold? Response vs.
Recovery
as the Goal of Antidepressant Therapy
The article has the right idea, but it also demonstrates the kind of
tunnel-vision I'm talking about. The bold new approach seems to
consist of increasing norepinephrine as well as serotonin. While that
is certainly useful for many people, it falls far short of addressing
the wide range of treatment strategies available.
Patience! It's only taken them what, about ten years to discover that
SSRIs aren't the cure-all they were promised and start looking again
at the other neurotransmitters.
The stuff about secondary neurotransmitters, neuropeptides et al. is
also interesting. Don't forget this guy's motivation seems to be to
preach to the brainwashed <G>
Kristy, and YNY, you might want to visit my Web site for an overview
of the available medications for depression. There are a *lot* more
than most psychiatrists know about.
Yes I fully agree. Don't entirely blame the poor ol' shrinks tho,
they're probably quite limited in what they're permitted to use by the
insuarance companies, ie. no off-label prescribing and use the stuff
with the biggest discount irrespective of whether it's the best tool
for the job.
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: More Lexapro isn't making me less depressed, only more hypomanic |
01 Aug 2005 11:46:53 PM |
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"You'll Never Know" <spam@spamspamspam.org.invalid> wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 22:45:46 -0700, "Nom dePlume"
<nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
The article has the right idea, but it also demonstrates the kind
of
tunnel-vision I'm talking about. The bold new approach seems to
consist of increasing norepinephrine as well as serotonin. While
that
is certainly useful for many people, it falls far short of
addressing
the wide range of treatment strategies available.
Patience! It's only taken them what, about ten years to discover
that
SSRIs aren't the cure-all they were promised and start looking again
at the other neurotransmitters.
The stuff about secondary neurotransmitters, neuropeptides et al. is
also interesting. Don't forget this guy's motivation seems to be to
preach to the brainwashed <G>
Kristy, and YNY, you might want to visit my Web site for an
overview
of the available medications for depression. There are a *lot* more
than most psychiatrists know about.
Yes I fully agree. Don't entirely blame the poor ol' shrinks tho,
they're probably quite limited in what they're permitted to use by
the
insuarance companies, ie. no off-label prescribing and use the stuff
with the biggest discount irrespective of whether it's the best tool
for the job.
I've never had a bad psychiatrist (can't say that about therapists,
alas), so I'm generally pleased with them. And I've gotten a lot of
help over the years. I have found that none of them knows everything,
and it can take several to get enough useful ideas. So one should
always keep on plugging, and seek out second opinions if the first guy
hasn't helped. My psychiatrists have been very cool both about
encouraging me to get second opinions, and in being willing to try any
conceivable medication, on label or not. I really appreciate their
attitudes!
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "Youll Never Know" |
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02 Aug 2005 06:08:32 PM |
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On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 21:46:53 -0700, "Nom dePlume"
<nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote:
I've never had a bad psychiatrist (can't say that about therapists,
alas), so I'm generally pleased with them. And I've gotten a lot of
help over the years. I have found that none of them knows everything,
and it can take several to get enough useful ideas. So one should
always keep on plugging, and seek out second opinions if the first guy
hasn't helped. My psychiatrists have been very cool both about
encouraging me to get second opinions, and in being willing to try any
conceivable medication, on label or not. I really appreciate their
attitudes!
You were lucky!
I've found all medical professionals to be highly variable. The shrink
who first persuaded me to try meds ye gods nearly forty years ago
literally saved my life.
One was several shades madder than I am.
The others have mostly been in between.
Diabetes is my current bete noir, again there's a lot of pressure on
to "save" money, and to follow formulaic approaches and dissuade
self-testing. IMO dieticians are some of the consistently worst/most
mediocre medical professionals. Along with certain dentists. Compared
to some of them all the psychiatrists I've known were geniuses <G>
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| User: "Youll Never Know" |
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29 Jul 2005 06:29:19 PM |
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On 28 Jul 2005 19:27:00 -0700, "David" <ddwils@gmail.com> wrote:
It's probably a good idea to stay in contact with your doctor about how
you're doing, especially as you adjust the medication. Do you feel like
the meds are helping, some of the time?
What him say!
Sometimes I think if we spend less attention on ourselves the other
problems will work themselves out.
millipede man wrote:
I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my life. :(
Well not necessarily, make sure your doctor knows exactly how you're
doing and what's changed, maybe it'll settle down, maybe you need to
add something else or change to something similar or different. Not
all the meds work the same for everyone, that's why they have so many
different ones.
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| User: "" |
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29 Jul 2005 12:13:23 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 02:01:48 GMT, millipede man
<huaFMngm@eartFMhlinFMk.FMnet> wrote:
I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
I'm sorry to hear this. I left my last AD because it made me irritable
and restless so I know what that feels like. Of course now on the
Lexapro I just feel...flat. As bad as that is I suppose it's still
preferable to what it was before. I guess......I don't know.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my life. :(
Maybe you just haven't given this increase enough time? Either way I
hope you feel better soon, whether it's with the Lexapro or something
else.
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| User: "millipede man" |
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30 Jul 2005 10:42:19 AM |
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wrote:
Maybe you just haven't given this increase enough time? Either way I
hope you feel better soon, whether it's with the Lexapro or something
else.
Thanks.
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- millipede man
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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29 Jul 2005 05:29:26 AM |
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millipede man <huaFMngm@eartfmhlinfmk.fmnet> wrote:
I'm still noticeably more irritable and restless than before increasing
the dose of Lexapro, and I don't feel less depressed either.
Lexapro slowed me down. It didn't make me less depressed.
And I felt strange uncomfortable feelings I never had before
or since.
I guess I'll have to accept being moderately depressed for the rest of
my life. :(
Not necessarily. I do know the situation. All about it.
I am between Rx myself. Hoping the next one will do something.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "" |
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29 Jul 2005 12:15:43 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:29:26 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
Lexapro slowed me down. It didn't make me less depressed.
And I felt strange uncomfortable feelings I never had before
or since.
Same here as far as the slowing down goes. As for being more, or less,
depressed, I think I'm too blah to even know. lol
Question though: what kind of strange uncomfortable feelings did you
experience?
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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01 Aug 2005 04:09:26 AM |
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wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:29:26 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
Lexapro slowed me down. It didn't make me less depressed.
And I felt strange uncomfortable feelings I never had before
or since.
Same here as far as the slowing down goes.
An ally! Like being turned to wood? Couldn't remember
how to walk?
Question though: what kind of strange uncomfortable feelings did you
experience?
Weird, psychic crawly not really physical and not
quite revolting unaccustomed thoughts... like when
there was a hole in the ceiling and creepy crawly
beings of vs. sorts entered.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "" |
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01 Aug 2005 10:17:21 AM |
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On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 09:09:26 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
Erasable_Elle@spamoffmyway.com wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:29:26 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
Lexapro slowed me down. It didn't make me less depressed.
And I felt strange uncomfortable feelings I never had before
or since.
Same here as far as the slowing down goes.
An ally! Like being turned to wood? Couldn't remember
how to walk?
Something like that, yes. I mean I go through my days same as before
but it's like slogging through water or something. The only reason
I've stayed with it though is because I don't have the constant
wanting to blow my brains out feelings that I had before.
BUT, the weight gain is a killer. I posted on a different thread that
I've gained 20 lbs. in the 6 months I've been on it. It's even worse
than that. I don't know what I was thinking when I posted that because
I just realized I've only been on it 3 months, not 6. So that means
I've actually gained that much in half the time I thought I did. I
suppose that could account too for the feeling of slogging through
water. ;-)
Question though: what kind of strange uncomfortable feelings did you
experience?
Weird, psychic crawly not really physical and not
quite revolting unaccustomed thoughts... like when
there was a hole in the ceiling and creepy crawly
beings of vs. sorts entered.
Yikes. Doesn't sound pleasant at all.
I guess this could be related in a way - I dream much, much more on
Lexapro. Long, detailed dreams. Thankfully they're not really
nightmares, they're just very numerous and vivid. I've never dreamt
like this before. It's very obvious that it's a SE of the Lex for me.
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| User: "HanginIn" |
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05 Aug 2005 10:54:57 PM |
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That doesn't sound good. You might want to get in touch with your doc.
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As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a
light of meaning in the darkness of mere being.
- Carl Jung [ 1875 - 1961]
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Erasable_Elle@spamoffmyway.com wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:29:26 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
Lexapro slowed me down. It didn't make me less depressed.
And I felt strange uncomfortable feelings I never had before
or since.
Same here as far as the slowing down goes.
An ally! Like being turned to wood? Couldn't remember
how to walk?
Question though: what kind of strange uncomfortable feelings did you
experience?
Weird, psychic crawly not really physical and not
quite revolting unaccustomed thoughts... like when
there was a hole in the ceiling and creepy crawly
beings of vs. sorts entered.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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