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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Nina"
Date: 07 Jun 2004 06:28:14 AM
Object: morning
I hate the grip of depression in the morning. I know that to some
extent it's situational; I know that, in an hour or so, when I come
back from the gym, I'll feel better. I know this is just the pattern
of my days.
But it shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be so hard to just want
to get up and stay alive and function, to get through the first hours
of the day without wanting to hurt yourself. It's not supposed to be
like this, and I don't know how to make it better, not in any way that
I can really control right now. All my energy goes into these first
hours, and then what's left?
Nina
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User: "used2be"

Title: Re: morning 07 Jun 2004 10:33:43 AM
"Nina" wrote

I hate the grip of depression in the morning. I know that to some
extent it's situational; I know that, in an hour or so, when I come
back from the gym, I'll feel better. I know this is just the pattern
of my days.

But it shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be so hard to just want
to get up and stay alive and function, to get through the first hours
of the day without wanting to hurt yourself.

god, you are *so* right, nina. you said it all perfectly. it has such a
grip in the mornings. i think it's because we've been asleep and escaping
it, and then we wake up to reality and are swallowed up by it all over
again. lately, i can't even shake it in the afternoons or evenings. it's
all day long and never ending. right now i think that if i was any lower,
they'd have to bury me.

It's not supposed to be
like this, and I don't know how to make it better, not in any way that
I can really control right now. All my energy goes into these first
hours, and then what's left?

no, it's *not* supposed to be like this. so why the hell is it??!!!!!!!!!!
hold on, nina. what else can we do?
u2b
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User: "Nina"

Title: Re: morning 07 Jun 2004 10:58:05 AM
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 15:33:43 GMT, "used2be"
<cindyb@ERASETHISaustin.rr.com> wrote:


"Nina" wrote

I hate the grip of depression in the morning. I know that to some
extent it's situational; I know that, in an hour or so, when I come
back from the gym, I'll feel better. I know this is just the pattern
of my days.

But it shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be so hard to just want
to get up and stay alive and function, to get through the first hours
of the day without wanting to hurt yourself.


god, you are *so* right, nina. you said it all perfectly. it has such a
grip in the mornings. i think it's because we've been asleep and escaping
it, and then we wake up to reality and are swallowed up by it all over
again. lately, i can't even shake it in the afternoons or evenings. it's
all day long and never ending. right now i think that if i was any lower,
they'd have to bury me.

I *usually* get better during the day if I can shake the grip of the
morning stuff. And I usually am ok most of the day if I wake up ok.
So I think that there's a correlation between the morning thing and
the rest of it... and I suppose that it also highlights to me that
some of this really is situation, that if I didn't wake up and feel
immediately overwhelmed by things, I might feel better.

It's not supposed to be
like this, and I don't know how to make it better, not in any way that
I can really control right now. All my energy goes into these first
hours, and then what's left?


no, it's *not* supposed to be like this. so why the hell is it??!!!!!!!!!!

I would love to know the answer to this.

hold on, nina. what else can we do?

Well, seriously... part of it is just holding on. But I think that
there are other things that we can do to try to ease it. I went to
the gum first thing, and that helped, and I took a shower, and that
actually helped more, and I chose NOT to make myself do the thing that
would really have set me off even worse. So... trying to be kind to
yourself, trying to do things that facilitate positive things... these
are worth thinking about, whatever they may be for you. Sometimes
it's just hard to find them.
Nina
.


User: "Bob"

Title: Re: morning 07 Jun 2004 10:48:14 AM
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:28:14 -0400, Nina <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net>
wrote:

I hate the grip of depression in the morning. I know that to some
extent it's situational; I know that, in an hour or so, when I come
back from the gym, I'll feel better. I know this is just the pattern
of my days.

But it shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be so hard to just want
to get up and stay alive and function, to get through the first hours
of the day without wanting to hurt yourself. It's not supposed to be
like this, and I don't know how to make it better, not in any way that
I can really control right now. All my energy goes into these first
hours, and then what's left?

Nina

I can relate to that. Not sure if it will help, but when I was facing
those mornings I would just grab my remote control from beside the bed
and click play. On my cassette deck I would have a "Guided Relaxation"
tape (I rewound it and had it ready to go each night so it would be
there next morning). I always found it a good distraction, and it also
put me in the "right place" to deal with the day.
Its also good if you have a big fluffy douvet that makes you feel like
you are a big warm toasty cinamon bun. A cozy dog/cat that isn't in a
playful mood at the time snuggled up against you is a big help to. But
if you don't have one of those i have found a stuffed animal helps.
Anyhow, I hope it helps. And I hope this was the kind of response you
were after.
Thanks for your ear,
Robert.
.
User: "Nina"

Title: Re: morning 07 Jun 2004 10:53:38 AM
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:48:14 +0800, Bob <none@no.com> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:28:14 -0400, Nina <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net>
wrote:

I hate the grip of depression in the morning. I know that to some
extent it's situational; I know that, in an hour or so, when I come
back from the gym, I'll feel better. I know this is just the pattern
of my days.

But it shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be so hard to just want
to get up and stay alive and function, to get through the first hours
of the day without wanting to hurt yourself. It's not supposed to be
like this, and I don't know how to make it better, not in any way that
I can really control right now. All my energy goes into these first
hours, and then what's left?

Nina



I can relate to that. Not sure if it will help, but when I was facing
those mornings I would just grab my remote control from beside the bed
and click play. On my cassette deck I would have a "Guided Relaxation"
tape (I rewound it and had it ready to go each night so it would be
there next morning). I always found it a good distraction, and it also
put me in the "right place" to deal with the day.

This is a really good idea, and it's something that I haven't tried.
I have some meditation tapes that might work, but something like that
could be better.

Its also good if you have a big fluffy douvet that makes you feel like
you are a big warm toasty cinamon bun. A cozy dog/cat that isn't in a
playful mood at the time snuggled up against you is a big help to. But
if you don't have one of those i have found a stuffed animal helps.

I had the weirdest dream a few nights ago in which I was in the
hospital, and they gave you big sleepy lions to snuggle with. I think
that's what I need. A big sleepy lion. :-)

Anyhow, I hope it helps. And I hope this was the kind of response you
were after.

Thanks for your ear,
Robert.

And thank you. I'm going to try the tape idea... any suggestions
about specific tapes? I can't do that all the time because often I
have to get up immediately, but I think it's a great idea.
Nina
.
User: "Robert"

Title: Re: morning 07 Jun 2004 11:18:15 AM
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 11:53:38 -0400, Nina <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net>
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 23:48:14 +0800, Bob <none@no.com> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 07:28:14 -0400, Nina <ninaNOSPAM@economika.net>
wrote:

I hate the grip of depression in the morning. I know that to some
extent it's situational; I know that, in an hour or so, when I come
back from the gym, I'll feel better. I know this is just the pattern
of my days.

But it shouldn't be this hard. It shouldn't be so hard to just want
to get up and stay alive and function, to get through the first hours
of the day without wanting to hurt yourself. It's not supposed to be
like this, and I don't know how to make it better, not in any way that
I can really control right now. All my energy goes into these first
hours, and then what's left?

Nina



I can relate to that. Not sure if it will help, but when I was facing
those mornings I would just grab my remote control from beside the bed
and click play. On my cassette deck I would have a "Guided Relaxation"
tape (I rewound it and had it ready to go each night so it would be
there next morning). I always found it a good distraction, and it also
put me in the "right place" to deal with the day.


This is a really good idea, and it's something that I haven't tried.
I have some meditation tapes that might work, but something like that
could be better.

Its also good if you have a big fluffy douvet that makes you feel like
you are a big warm toasty cinamon bun. A cozy dog/cat that isn't in a
playful mood at the time snuggled up against you is a big help to. But
if you don't have one of those i have found a stuffed animal helps.


I had the weirdest dream a few nights ago in which I was in the
hospital, and they gave you big sleepy lions to snuggle with. I think
that's what I need. A big sleepy lion. :-)

I have a purple frog, but just thinking about a big sleepy lion brings
a silly grin to my face :)

Anyhow, I hope it helps. And I hope this was the kind of response you
were after.

Thanks for your ear,
Robert.


And thank you. I'm going to try the tape idea... any suggestions
about specific tapes? I can't do that all the time because often I
have to get up immediately, but I think it's a great idea.

Not really. I got the series from a place called "Perth Clinic". Which
is a mental health hospital/hostel. If you live in Perth, Australia
then nick into it. Its on Havelock street. Otherwise you'll just have
to have a scout around.
As for advice there are a few different varieties of relax tape. Some
are muscle tense/relax sessions, others just give you breathing counts
with classical music, and some take you through a peacefull scene.
Then there are combinations. You'll just have to try each one till you
find one that suits I am afraid.
One more bit of advice, stick with it for about 2 months. I just
couldn't relax or get into it for about a month and a half. But once
you get the "knack" they are very helpful and very relaxing (believe
it or not).
Now if I feel un-relaxed in any way(as detailed above) I can run
through the scene in the time of a relaxed breath cycle. Which I have
found handy on the days I have had to get up immediately.
Hope it works for you.
Thanks for your ear,
Robert.
.




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