My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's immediate
remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty much completely.
No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in my case, for a roof
overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying upon
established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a father.
Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we suspect it
has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in West Virginia
when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as well
as blood.
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| User: "punk" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
21 Feb 2006 10:36:32 PM |
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wow, john. it sounds like you and your brother became really close on
this visit. that's so great. i'm so happy for you.
John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's immediate
remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty much completely.
No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in my case, for a roof
overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying upon
established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a father.
Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we suspect it
has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in West Virginia
when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as well
as blood.
.
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| User: "Bacon" |
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21 Feb 2006 11:32:00 PM |
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"punk" <dreamgir1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140582992.516295.180680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
wow, john. it sounds like you and your brother became really close on
this visit. that's so great. i'm so happy for you.
Dr. Jekyl
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| User: "punk" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 02:11:09 AM |
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From : Jane <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent : Monday, February 20, 2006 8:11 PM
To : "funkin' punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: michael
We're on the phone and he's fine, I wouldn't give you his number if you
were the last person on this fucking planet, stay out of my inbox.
----- Original Message ----- From: "funkin' punk"
<funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
To: <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: michael
jane,
i'm concerned about michael this evening. are you chatting with him or
do you have a phone number so i can call him?
i appreciate your attention to this matter.
linda
From: "Jane" <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
To: "punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: LUNATIC JEAN
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:32:27 -0500
Hey Sherlock your responding to a post that's more then 24 hours old.
Get a news reader so you can keep up.
----- Original Message ----- From: "punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: LUNATIC JEAN
it's not a fight, michael. i'm trying to defend myself against the
lies they are spreading like they did to you the other day.
gravity wrote:
ladies, please make up.
Gravity
"punk" <punkassch1ck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140149465.711728.88240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
lol...no wonder it never posted. duh...
post it...it was meant to be a post.
and GET OFF MY BACK.
Luna wrote:
"pink" <pinkadilly05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140147701.776308.159680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
DO NOT SEND ME EMAIL. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME. YOUR EMAILS WILL BE
FILTERED OUT AS JUNK MAIL.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE NOTHING OF ANY VALUE TO SAY, BUT, IF YOU HAVE
SOMETHING TO SAY TO ME, SAY IT OVER AT FLAMES. DON'T WASTE ASDRS >> > TIME
OR MENTAL HEALTH WITH YOUR NONSENSE.
GET OFF MY BACK.
Bacon wrote:
"punk" <dreamgir1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140582992.516295.180680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
wow, john. it sounds like you and your brother became really close on
this visit. that's so great. i'm so happy for you.
Dr. Jekyl
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 04:29:16 AM |
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Paranoid? You should be
"punk" <punkn05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140595869.259763.12830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
From : Jane <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent : Monday, February 20, 2006 8:11 PM
To : "funkin' punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: michael
We're on the phone and he's fine, I wouldn't give you his number if you
were the last person on this fucking planet, stay out of my inbox.
----- Original Message ----- From: "funkin' punk"
<funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
To: <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: michael
jane,
i'm concerned about michael this evening. are you chatting with him or
do you have a phone number so i can call him?
i appreciate your attention to this matter.
linda
From: "Jane" <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
To: "punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: LUNATIC JEAN
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:32:27 -0500
Hey Sherlock your responding to a post that's more then 24 hours old.
Get a news reader so you can keep up.
----- Original Message ----- From: "punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: LUNATIC JEAN
it's not a fight, michael. i'm trying to defend myself against the
lies they are spreading like they did to you the other day.
gravity wrote:
ladies, please make up.
Gravity
"punk" <punkassch1ck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140149465.711728.88240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
lol...no wonder it never posted. duh...
post it...it was meant to be a post.
and GET OFF MY BACK.
Luna wrote:
"pink" <pinkadilly05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140147701.776308.159680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
DO NOT SEND ME EMAIL. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME. YOUR EMAILS WILL BE
FILTERED OUT AS JUNK MAIL.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE NOTHING OF ANY VALUE TO SAY, BUT, IF YOU HAVE
SOMETHING TO SAY TO ME, SAY IT OVER AT FLAMES. DON'T WASTE ASDRS >> >
TIME
OR MENTAL HEALTH WITH YOUR NONSENSE.
GET OFF MY BACK.
Bacon wrote:
"punk" <dreamgir1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140582992.516295.180680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
wow, john. it sounds like you and your brother became really close on
this visit. that's so great. i'm so happy for you.
Dr. Jekyl
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| User: "pink" |
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22 Feb 2006 12:55:23 PM |
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repeat yourself much, sweet'n low jane?
Jane wrote:
Paranoid? You should be
"punk" <punkn05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140595869.259763.12830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
From : Jane <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent : Monday, February 20, 2006 8:11 PM
To : "funkin' punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: michael
We're on the phone and he's fine, I wouldn't give you his number if you
were the last person on this fucking planet, stay out of my inbox.
Jane wrote:
Paranoid? You should be
"punk" <punkn05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140595869.259763.12830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
From : Jane <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent : Monday, February 20, 2006 8:11 PM
To : "funkin' punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject : Re: michael
We're on the phone and he's fine, I wouldn't give you his number if you
were the last person on this fucking planet, stay out of my inbox.
----- Original Message ----- From: "funkin' punk"
<funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
To: <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:36 PM
Subject: michael
jane,
i'm concerned about michael this evening. are you chatting with him or
do you have a phone number so i can call him?
i appreciate your attention to this matter.
linda
From: "Jane" <jarsenal66@hotmail.com>
To: "punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: LUNATIC JEAN
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:32:27 -0500
Hey Sherlock your responding to a post that's more then 24 hours old.
Get a news reader so you can keep up.
----- Original Message ----- From: "punk" <funkinpunk@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.support.depression
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: LUNATIC JEAN
it's not a fight, michael. i'm trying to defend myself against the
lies they are spreading like they did to you the other day.
gravity wrote:
ladies, please make up.
Gravity
"punk" <punkassch1ck@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140149465.711728.88240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
lol...no wonder it never posted. duh...
post it...it was meant to be a post.
and GET OFF MY BACK.
Luna wrote:
"pink" <pinkadilly05@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140147701.776308.159680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
DO NOT SEND ME EMAIL. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME. YOUR EMAILS WILL BE
FILTERED OUT AS JUNK MAIL.
I'M SURE YOU HAVE NOTHING OF ANY VALUE TO SAY, BUT, IF YOU HAVE
SOMETHING TO SAY TO ME, SAY IT OVER AT FLAMES. DON'T WASTE ASDRS >> >
TIME
OR MENTAL HEALTH WITH YOUR NONSENSE.
GET OFF MY BACK.
Bacon wrote:
"punk" <dreamgir1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140582992.516295.180680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
wow, john. it sounds like you and your brother became really close on
this visit. that's so great. i'm so happy for you.
Dr. Jekyl
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| User: "%" |
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22 Feb 2006 01:00:53 PM |
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i fell and landed right on my Linda
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| User: "Bacon" |
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22 Feb 2006 03:50:00 PM |
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"%" <persent@Gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f7GdnfNlh8NIKWHenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
i fell and landed right on my Linda
Now your ***** is pink...and you need Valtrex.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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21 Feb 2006 05:18:52 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's immediate
remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty much completely.
No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in my case, for a roof
overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying upon
established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a father.
Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we suspect it
has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in West Virginia
when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as well
as blood.
If you had been handed everything, you might have ended up like me.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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21 Feb 2006 09:21:32 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FB9FCF.2010802@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's
immediate
remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty much
completely.
No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in my case, for a
roof
overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying
upon
established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a
father.
Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we suspect
it
has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in West
Virginia
when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as
well
as blood.
If you had been handed everything, you might have ended up like me.
What's wrong with how you ended up?
--
Rhi
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 12:47:20 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Rhiannon wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FB9FCF.2010802@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's
immediate
remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty much
completely.
No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in my case, for a
roof
overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying
upon
established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a
father.
Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we suspect
it
has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in West
Virginia
when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as
well
as blood.
If you had been handed everything, you might have ended up like me.
What's wrong with how you ended up?
--
Rhi
I'm in deep debt and barely hanging on.
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
21 Feb 2006 05:31:26 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FB9FCF.2010802@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's
immediate remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty
much completely. No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in
my case, for a roof overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying
upon established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a
father. Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we
suspect it has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in
West Virginia when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as
well as blood.
If you had been handed everything, you might have ended up like me.
If you're saying what I think you're saying, I think you're selling yourself
short, Thor.
And he and I also have some differences. I have this depression thing
happening which, thankfully, he seems to have missed.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
21 Feb 2006 05:57:09 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
John wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FB9FCF.2010802@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's
immediate remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty
much completely. No parents to look to for support in school--or even, in
my case, for a roof overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying
upon established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a
father. Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we
suspect it has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in
West Virginia when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as
well as blood.
If you had been handed everything, you might have ended up like me.
If you're saying what I think you're saying, I think you're selling yourself
short, Thor.
And he and I also have some differences. I have this depression thing
happening which, thankfully, he seems to have missed.
No, I meant my situation. You know a little about it. Same thing,
what, 3 years later? I had a very comfortable childhood, I don't think
it served me well.
My dad came to visit to help me out with this mess, he just left on
Saturday. My high school friend said I'm lucky I have a dad who can
help me with this stuff. His dad is kind of clueless, still living with
his parents in his 50's. I told him you're lucky you don't need a dad
to come out and help you. It just seems to me that there is a common
thread with people who started with not very much - they are hungrier,
they know how to fight and stay in the fight.
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
21 Feb 2006 06:30:10 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FBA8BF.5050507@comcast.net...
No, I meant my situation. You know a little about it. Same thing, what,
3 years later? I had a very comfortable childhood, I don't think it
served me well.
My dad came to visit to help me out with this mess, he just left on
Saturday. My high school friend said I'm lucky I have a dad who can help
me with this stuff. His dad is kind of clueless, still living with his
parents in his 50's. I told him you're lucky you don't need a dad to come
out and help you. It just seems to me that there is a common thread with
people who started with not very much - they are hungrier, they know how
to fight and stay in the fight.
Only hungrier because we had to be. You make sense Janithor. I mean my dad
or mom for that matter never helped me get to where I am now, and I wouldn't
ask them for a damn thing, I'd figure it out and work like a dog before I'd
ask them. Yet on the other hand, had they been nurturing supportive
parents, I'd probably welcome their help when things got tough and we'd be a
close family with a lot of love, something we're not.
I'm the nurturing parent, I just hope my son and daughter become the
fighters and succeed with little to no help from me, it's pretty rewarding
when I'm doing better then my parents and I did it on my own.
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 12:46:11 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Jane wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FBA8BF.5050507@comcast.net...
No, I meant my situation. You know a little about it. Same thing, what,
3 years later? I had a very comfortable childhood, I don't think it
served me well.
My dad came to visit to help me out with this mess, he just left on
Saturday. My high school friend said I'm lucky I have a dad who can help
me with this stuff. His dad is kind of clueless, still living with his
parents in his 50's. I told him you're lucky you don't need a dad to come
out and help you. It just seems to me that there is a common thread with
people who started with not very much - they are hungrier, they know how
to fight and stay in the fight.
Only hungrier because we had to be. You make sense Janithor. I mean my dad
or mom for that matter never helped me get to where I am now, and I wouldn't
ask them for a damn thing, I'd figure it out and work like a dog before I'd
ask them. Yet on the other hand, had they been nurturing supportive
parents, I'd probably welcome their help when things got tough and we'd be a
close family with a lot of love, something we're not.
I'm the nurturing parent, I just hope my son and daughter become the
fighters and succeed with little to no help from me, it's pretty rewarding
when I'm doing better then my parents and I did it on my own.
Once again, it all comes down to balance. Extremes are usually never
good. Overly doting parents create 26 yr old baby birds who can't leave
the nest, and psycho parents create people who post horror stories to
forums like asd for the next 30 years. There's a happy medium in there
somewhere.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 12:48:57 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FCB164.6080800@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
Jane wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FBA8BF.5050507@comcast.net...
No, I meant my situation. You know a little about it. Same thing,
what,
3 years later? I had a very comfortable childhood, I don't think it
served me well.
My dad came to visit to help me out with this mess, he just left on
Saturday. My high school friend said I'm lucky I have a dad who can
help
me with this stuff. His dad is kind of clueless, still living with his
parents in his 50's. I told him you're lucky you don't need a dad to
come
out and help you. It just seems to me that there is a common thread
with
people who started with not very much - they are hungrier, they know how
to fight and stay in the fight.
Only hungrier because we had to be. You make sense Janithor. I mean my
dad
or mom for that matter never helped me get to where I am now, and I
wouldn't
ask them for a damn thing, I'd figure it out and work like a dog before
I'd
ask them. Yet on the other hand, had they been nurturing supportive
parents, I'd probably welcome their help when things got tough and we'd
be a
close family with a lot of love, something we're not.
I'm the nurturing parent, I just hope my son and daughter become the
fighters and succeed with little to no help from me, it's pretty
rewarding
when I'm doing better then my parents and I did it on my own.
Once again, it all comes down to balance. Extremes are usually never
good. Overly doting parents create 26 yr old baby birds who can't leave
the nest, and psycho parents create people who post horror stories to
forums like asd for the next 30 years. There's a happy medium in there
somewhere.
Hi , I'm the Happy Medium
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 07:11:22 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FCB164.6080800@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
Jane wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:43FBA8BF.5050507@comcast.net...
No, I meant my situation. You know a little about it. Same thing, what,
3 years later? I had a very comfortable childhood, I don't think it
served me well.
My dad came to visit to help me out with this mess, he just left on
Saturday. My high school friend said I'm lucky I have a dad who can help
me with this stuff. His dad is kind of clueless, still living with his
parents in his 50's. I told him you're lucky you don't need a dad to
come out and help you. It just seems to me that there is a common thread
with people who started with not very much - they are hungrier, they know
how to fight and stay in the fight.
Only hungrier because we had to be. You make sense Janithor. I mean my
dad or mom for that matter never helped me get to where I am now, and I
wouldn't ask them for a damn thing, I'd figure it out and work like a dog
before I'd ask them. Yet on the other hand, had they been nurturing
supportive parents, I'd probably welcome their help when things got tough
and we'd be a close family with a lot of love, something we're not.
I'm the nurturing parent, I just hope my son and daughter become the
fighters and succeed with little to no help from me, it's pretty
rewarding when I'm doing better then my parents and I did it on my own.
Once again, it all comes down to balance. Extremes are usually never
good. Overly doting parents create 26 yr old baby birds who can't leave
the nest, and psycho parents create people who post horror stories to
forums like asd for the next 30 years. There's a happy medium in there
somewhere.
I really hope I'm creating the happy medium. My son will be 20 in a couple
of weeks, he works full time, and pays the cable and water bill. He fills
up my SUV once a week and chips in on groceries. He has a cell phone,
credit card etc and hasn't been late or in trouble with any of them, and
hasn't asked me to help him out with them. He's been working since he was
15, and graduated from school, never got into trouble once he moved back in
with me after a short stay with his father. My daughter is 15 and we've
been job hunting for her. Florida is weird, not a lot of places will hire
school aged kids so we've not had any luck. I'm hoping to do with her what
I've taught my son, working hard never hurt anyone and if you want it bad
enough you'll work hard to get it.
Hugs
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
21 Feb 2006 07:07:04 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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John wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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John wrote:
My brother and I were talking again yesterday about the similarly in the
paths we have followed.
Neither of us had much to start with. Our parents saw us through high
school, but a divorce that happened when I was 17 and my mother's
immediate remarriage meant that we were on our own after that, pretty
much completely. No parents to look to for support in school--or even,
in my case, for a roof overhead.
Yet, here we are--both through school and a professional degree and both
having taken the entrepreneurial route in our fields instead of relying
upon established companies for work.
Genetics are a piece of it, though we share only our mother, not a
father. Neither of us is sure where the rest of it comes from, though we
suspect it has something to do with the povery of my mother's family in
West Virginia when she was a little girl.
Whatever it is, I'm glad it's there. It makes us kindred in spirit as
well as blood.
If you had been handed everything, you might have ended up like me.
If you're saying what I think you're saying, I think you're selling
yourself short, Thor.
And he and I also have some differences. I have this depression thing
happening which, thankfully, he seems to have missed.
No, I meant my situation. You know a little about it. Same thing, what,
3 years later? I had a very comfortable childhood, I don't think it
served me well.
My dad came to visit to help me out with this mess, he just left on
Saturday. My high school friend said I'm lucky I have a dad who can help
me with this stuff. His dad is kind of clueless, still living with his
parents in his 50's. I told him you're lucky you don't need a dad to come
out and help you. It just seems to me that there is a common thread with
people who started with not very much - they are hungrier, they know how
to fight and stay in the fight.
You might be surprised at how common problems like that are, Thor, so I
don't know if I would read more into the mere fact that you had that problem
than that you are an entrepreneur. In my job, I see lots and lots of people
who are entrepreneurs and have been pinched for cash at one time or another
to satisfy obligations.
And I haven't been without support. In particular, there was that friend of
mine who helped me when I was on the verge of homelessness--when, in fact, I
would have been homeless and hungry but for him. If he hadn't helped me, I
would have bailed on Hawaii and all of the good things that have come my
way--my wife, my profession, Maia--I would have missed out on. In honor and
respect of him, I try to do stuff for people in similar straits when I can.
And there are plenty of historical examples of people who have come back
from adversity. Harry S. Truman is a prime example. A haberdasher who went
broke. Whodathunkit?
There was an article the other day about the guy who is the President of a
client of mine. He said the important thing is not to let it go to your
head when you're doing well and to get back up when you've been knocked
down. Because it's going to happen.
When I read it, I thought, Well, that's the damn truth.
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 02:41:23 AM |
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"John" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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And I haven't been without support. In particular, there was that friend
of mine who helped me when I was on the verge of homelessness--when, in
fact, I would have been homeless and hungry but for him. If he hadn't
helped me, I would have bailed on Hawaii and all of the good things that
have come my way--my wife, my profession, Maia--I would have missed out
on. In honor and respect of him, I try to do stuff for people in similar
straits when I can.
BTW, when this happened, I was already 30. Not young.
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 03:00:30 AM |
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"John" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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"John" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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And I haven't been without support. In particular, there was that friend
of mine who helped me when I was on the verge of homelessness--when, in
fact, I would have been homeless and hungry but for him. If he hadn't
helped me, I would have bailed on Hawaii and all of the good things that
have come my way--my wife, my profession, Maia--I would have missed out
on. In honor and respect of him, I try to do stuff for people in similar
straits when I can.
BTW, when this happened, I was already 30. Not young.
i am 31. i had a good job at age 22. in some sense, i am most unstable in
recent years.
Gravity
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: My brother |
22 Feb 2006 03:00:56 AM |
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"John" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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"John" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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And I haven't been without support. In particular, there was that friend
of mine who helped me when I was on the verge of homelessness--when, in
fact, I would have been homeless and hungry but for him. If he hadn't
helped me, I would have bailed on Hawaii and all of the good things that
have come my way--my wife, my profession, Maia--I would have missed out
on. In honor and respect of him, I try to do stuff for people in similar
straits when I can.
BTW, when this happened, I was already 30. Not young.
when i was 22, i had a good job. i had some money to spend. i had
acquantinces and friends.
Gravity
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