Sociology > Depression > Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group.
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"Don Wind" |
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18 Jun 2004 04:49:55 AM |
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Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
when I have sex with my wife. Sex is kinda important to us, since
we've been seperated for almost 2 years. (First Afganistan, then
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
My biggest symptoms I'm struggling with right now, is the lack
of motivation to do things that I need to get done, and being very
easily angered.
I lack the motivation doing things that I think I should
enjoy, like tunning up the car, cleanning up the old Motorcycle, and
cleanning up my army gear so I can turn it in. I don't know if a lack
of drive to get things done is from the depression or not. The other
problem is My lack of control over my anger. I grabbed a auto parts
guy by his shirt today, and pulled him across the counter, doubled up
my fist, and stopped myself when I realized I was about to punch this
guy in the face for not giving me my refund. I let him go, and drove
home wondering what the heck has happened to me. I've always have had
kind of a short fuse, but never like this. My anger has been scaring
me lately.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east. It reminds me of some of the
situations I've been through, and I relive them all the time. So, my
questions are:
1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
Don
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| User: "Hap Arnold" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 08:56:32 PM |
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"Don Wind" <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kgb5d090b3n4rpgt5bad26rg8bi0cr9ss5@4ax.com...
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
when I have sex with my wife. Sex is kinda important to us, since
we've been seperated for almost 2 years. (First Afganistan, then
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
My biggest symptoms I'm struggling with right now, is the lack
of motivation to do things that I need to get done, and being very
easily angered.
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Another poster here made this site, and it is fairly compact and complete.
Many medications only begin to work after a month or so. Some side-effects
go away over time. It is important that you tell your physician about how
you are taking the medications, and talk to him about the good and bad
effects it is having.
I have PTSD and major depression as well. I never had an over abundance of
motivation before the onset, but afterwards motivation has been pretty rare.
I have found that it works well for me to do what I would if I were
motivated even when I am not. Sometimes I get into doing it and enjoy, and
sometimes I get tired of it and have to put it away.
I lack the motivation doing things that I think I should
enjoy, like tunning up the car, cleanning up the old Motorcycle, and
cleanning up my army gear so I can turn it in. I don't know if a lack
of drive to get things done is from the depression or not. The other
problem is My lack of control over my anger. I grabbed a auto parts
guy by his shirt today, and pulled him across the counter, doubled up
my fist, and stopped myself when I realized I was about to punch this
guy in the face for not giving me my refund. I let him go, and drove
home wondering what the heck has happened to me. I've always have had
kind of a short fuse, but never like this. My anger has been scaring
me lately.
I had a bad problem with anger too. I think in some way it functions as a
relief to the depression, because it is a very intense feeling, and when I
am in the midst of a depressive episode I can feel totally numb to
everything. The anger decreased over time for me.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east. It reminds me of some of the
situations I've been through, and I relive them all the time.
That doesn't sound unusual. It is a relief to be out of a life and death
situation, but being reminded of your own and seeing others in one is
stressful.
So, my
questions are:
1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
Yes. I use wellbutrin and effexor with some zyprexa every so often.
Zyprexa kills the libido, though, so I stay off it as much as I can.
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
Can be.
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
I think so.
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
Not directly. By allowing you to live your life more fully and by (with a
bit of luck) allowing you to reclaim your life more quickly, the AD's will
remove some of the causes of anger.
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
Don
Thank you for your honorable service.
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| User: "d parker" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 09:50:38 AM |
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"Don Wind" <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kgb5d090b3n4rpgt5bad26rg8bi0cr9ss5@4ax.com...
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
when I have sex with my wife. Sex is kinda important to us, since
we've been seperated for almost 2 years. (First Afganistan, then
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
My biggest symptoms I'm struggling with right now, is the lack
of motivation to do things that I need to get done, and being very
easily angered.
I lack the motivation doing things that I think I should
enjoy, like tunning up the car, cleanning up the old Motorcycle, and
cleanning up my army gear so I can turn it in. I don't know if a lack
of drive to get things done is from the depression or not. The other
problem is My lack of control over my anger. I grabbed a auto parts
guy by his shirt today, and pulled him across the counter, doubled up
my fist, and stopped myself when I realized I was about to punch this
guy in the face for not giving me my refund. I let him go, and drove
home wondering what the heck has happened to me. I've always have had
kind of a short fuse, but never like this. My anger has been scaring
me lately.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east. It reminds me of some of the
situations I've been through, and I relive them all the time. So, my
questions are:
1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
Don
Sad to say but your old life will be gone forever. That's the way everything
works and you will need to start looking for new joys.
Yeah you will lose a lot of drive and Perhaps the Physical strength to
maintain long periods on the tools or whatever job. Depression has a
definite effect on the bodies stamina.
I never had rage. Quite the opposite. Perhaps you should also be looking at
anger management therapy.
DP
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 04:21:57 PM |
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d parker <ozskipper(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Don Wind" <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kgb5d090b3n4rpgt5bad26rg8bi0cr9ss5@4ax.com...
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
<snip details>
Glad to hear about the 3 * week sessions, wish I had something like that.
Can't "turn off and on" the meds, sorry.
of drive to get things done is from the depression or not. The other
Oh yes.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east. It reminds me of some of the
Not necessarily depression!
Someone else:
Sad to say but your old life will be gone forever. That's
the way everything
works and you will need to start looking for new joys.
This is NOT necessarily true, please don't asssume that. But
you will have to be on the lookout for recurrence.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
24 Jun 2004 02:56:29 AM |
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d parker <ozskipper(nospam)@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Don Wind" <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:kgb5d090b3n4rpgt5bad26rg8bi0cr9ss5@4ax.com...
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
Hope that helps.
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
when I have sex with my wife. Sex is kinda important to us, since
we've been seperated for almost 2 years. (First Afganistan, then
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
It is one of the biggest complaints ppl have. Unhappily, the
medical wisdom (with which I agree FWIW, IANAD) is that a constant
level of the AD should be present in one's bloodstream. On again
off again doesn't work
My biggest symptoms I'm struggling with right now, is the lack
of motivation to do things that I need to get done
That's a symptom all right.
and being very easily angered.
Other than Real Life therapy addressed to this, think about
what triggers this. Anything? Particular things, people, places?
I reluctantly decided I have to avoid certain ppl, classes (adult
type ed) or cut down my frequency because being with the affiliation
of ppl who gave me some really bad advice caused too much pain.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east.
I understand that.
Some other person>
Sad to say but your old life will be gone forever. That's the way everything
works and you will need to start looking for new joys.
No, not necessarily, but it won't happen overnight. You might
attain a "new normal" and it might or might not resemble your "old
normal" state. Don't take this person's word for it, recovery
happens, at least for some. (NGs do attract the intractables and
the plain troublemakers.)
I thought I had posted this before, but I never saw it. Hope
there aren't duplicates.
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| User: "Lisa" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 10:35:43 AM |
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1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
Yes, but it really depends on what meds you're on. Plus, when you're
depressed, you sex life just isn't what it used to be, no matter what.
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
Oh yeah! When I'm depressed, I don't get a charge out of ANYTHING I love.
And it's damn near impossible to get motivated to do anything.
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
I do. I get so frustrated because everything sucks, and I blow up. To the
point where I get scary. Some of the rage could also stem from the PTSD
though.
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
Some do. Buspar really takes the edge off for me. And I remember when I
started AD, I was amazed at how so many of the little things just no longer
pissed me off.
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
Don
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| User: "Violet" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
24 Jun 2004 10:27:43 AM |
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Don Wind <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:<kgb5d090b3n4rpgt5bad26rg8bi0cr9ss5@4ax.com>...
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
when I have sex with my wife. Sex is kinda important to us, since
we've been seperated for almost 2 years. (First Afganistan, then
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
My biggest symptoms I'm struggling with right now, is the lack
of motivation to do things that I need to get done, and being very
easily angered.
I lack the motivation doing things that I think I should
enjoy, like tunning up the car, cleanning up the old Motorcycle, and
cleanning up my army gear so I can turn it in. I don't know if a lack
of drive to get things done is from the depression or not. The other
problem is My lack of control over my anger. I grabbed a auto parts
guy by his shirt today, and pulled him across the counter, doubled up
my fist, and stopped myself when I realized I was about to punch this
guy in the face for not giving me my refund. I let him go, and drove
home wondering what the heck has happened to me. I've always have had
kind of a short fuse, but never like this. My anger has been scaring
me lately.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east. It reminds me of some of the
situations I've been through, and I relive them all the time. So, my
questions are:
1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
Don
{{{{{Don}}}}}
First, I'm glad you made it home relatively undamaged, although I'm
sure you feel damaged right now.
Please don't assume you won't get back to your old self. That's just
not true. But it probably won't happen quickly. You've had a
life-altering experience, and you need some time to process it,
emotionally, and to find some ways to come to terms with it.
Depression is characterized by a lack of drive and motivation, a lack
of interest in things that used to give you pleasure, and often by
changes in eating and sleeping patterns. I haven't personally
experienced fits of uncontrollable rage, but I think it's all part of
the pattern, and I know others in the group have reported similar
incidents.
The advice you've received about needing to take your medications on
schedule is correct, unfortunately; the goal is to get a level of that
drug into your system and then to keep it consistently at that level.
Many people have reported problems with sexual dysfunction in
connection with some kinds of antidepressants, but there's a wide
variety of them around, and if you discuss this problem with your
doctor, I'm sure a different option could be found for you. I would
personally suggest that a healthy sex life is probably of more
importance to you and your wife right now than the medication, but
that's only my opinion.
Of course, you're crying a lot, hon. We're all crying a lot over the
news. You've been a lot closer to the story than most of us, and
naturally it's affecting you more.
There are some techniques for managing depression that don't involve
drug therapy, but the bottom line is, be good to yourself. Eat a
healthy diet, read uplifting books, listen to uplifting music, skip
the news for awhile. Spend time with your loved ones and with
supportive friends who know you need to accentuate the positive right
now. Physical exercise may help with the rage, by the way.
Best of luck, hon. Keep us posted.
-- Violet, praying for you
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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18 Jun 2004 05:43:42 AM |
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Don Wind wrote:
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
Tell the doctor. There are alternative anti-depressants. some may not be so
bad for you.
home wondering what the heck has happened to me. I've always have had
kind of a short fuse, but never like this. My anger has been scaring
me lately.
Ask for Anger Management Training. Actually, demand it. Assertiveness
Training might be good too, after the anger stuff.
I've also been crying a lot lately, when I hear about american
deaths, and hostages in the middle east. It reminds me of some of the
situations I've been through, and I relive them all the time.
You need guys to talk to. Not online.
1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
Yes. you either have to change meds to one that doesn't give you any sexual
dysfunction or just do sex without emission.
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
Could be. Probably.
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
No. Rage is a separate deal. Clinical depression is just that list of
symptom things in the criteria. Irritability in children and adolescents is
as close to rage as it gets.
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
Not really. they can indirectly.
You have to manage anger by will and rehabituation or something like that,
you have to change back your habits or make them better than ever before.
The anger and rage are just habits. Habitual reactions. The excitation
underneath them can be redirected by will, it just takes practice.
Anger Management Training. Meditation. Aerobic exercise where you move large
muscle groups rythmically and in social circumstances, like doing PT on a
parade square with your unit or like what women do in an aerobics class.
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
That's not going to happen. Maybe you could go to the legion and talk to
some of the old guys. If you go, take cab fare.
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| User: "Ally" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 08:11:47 AM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:49:55 -0700, Don Wind <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex
life?
I'm not a guy but I would think it's possible if you find the right
AD.
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
Yes, it could be.
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
I don't know about others but I do know that my fits of rage often
occur before a downward spiral into depression.
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
I don't really think so. Benzodiazepines might help you though,
whether it be for good or until you can get yourself back on track
through some form of therapy, whether it be Individual therapy or
maybe even group therapy with other veterans who are suffering like
you.
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be
back to what normal was before the war.
Don
It won't be the same, but it can still be good. Who knows? Maybe even
better.
Good luck.
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 05:50:57 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:49:55 -0700, Don Wind <mpsarg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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1. Is it Possible for a guy to be on AD and have a satisfying sex life?
I've heard that it is. Talk to your doctor about this; alternative ADs
might have less of an effect, for a start.
2. Is a general lack of drive to do things part of the depression?
Very much so.
3. Do a lot of people experience fits of rage from depression?
Some do; I know I had a temper problem with one of the ADs I tried. I
would think it's more to do with PTSD though.
4. Do AD drugs help with managing anger?
That's probably a matter for 'counselling' or 'therapy'.
Thank you in advance for the help. I really just want my life to be back
to what normal was before the war. Don
Good luck with that. Give it time.
I agree with Bev about getting to know other people who've had similar
experiences to you. Perhaps your wife could get to know other Veterans'
Wives too.
Welcome to ASD :))
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| User: "Velvet Elvis" |
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| Title: Re: Newly diagnosed with Major depression.... A couple of questions for the group. |
18 Jun 2004 12:07:50 PM |
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:49:55 -0700, Don Wind wrote:
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
when I have sex with my wife. Sex is kinda important to us, since
we've been seperated for almost 2 years. (First Afganistan, then
Iraq). So, I've only been taking the AD med only about 4 times a week.
FWIW, AD's don't work that way. You've got to take them every day for a
while for them to work. After you've been on them a while, skipping a day
won't cause the side effects to abate. Augmenting you're current AD
regimine with Wellbutrin is one possibility, but it could make your
anxiety/anger issues worse. You could also give Viagra a shot.
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| User: "Free Generic Viagra" |
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18 Jun 2004 10:55:48 PM |
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Velvet Elvis <gambolt@REMOVEsofthome.THISnet> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.06.18.17.02.03.144770@REMOVEsofthome.THISnet>...
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 02:49:55 -0700, Don Wind wrote:
I've recently returned from the war in Iraq (a little over a
month ago) and was recently diagnosed with Major Depression and PTSD.
I'm going to therapy sessions about 3 times a week at the local VA
hospital, and have been perscribed Prazosin for my nightmares, and
Citalopram for the depression. I haven't been taking the AD med
regularly because on the days I take it, I'm unable to have an orgasm
Viagra will not help you reach orgasms easier. On the contrary. The
medication you are taking is counter-acting your normal ejaculatory
process. Talk to your physician about this and consider asking him
about histidine supplementation.
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