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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Gayle"
Date: 04 Jan 2007 08:45:11 PM
Object: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon?
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801
(excerpt)
HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK
SERVICE WON’T SAY — Orders to Cater to
Creationists Makes National Park
Agnostic on Geology
Washington, DC — Grand Canyon National
Park is not permitted to give an
official estimate of the geologic age of
its principal feature, due to pressure
from Bush administration appointees.
Despite promising a prompt review of its
approval for a book claiming the Grand
Canyon was created by Noah's flood
rather than by geologic forces, more
than three years later no review has
ever been done and the book remains on
sale at the park, according to documents
released today by Public Employees for
Environmental Responsibility (PEER).
“In order to avoid offending religious
fundamentalists, our National Park
Service is under orders to suspend its
belief in geology,” stated PEER
Executive Director Jeff Ruch. “It is
disconcerting that the official position
of a national park as to the geologic
age of the Grand Canyon is ‘no comment.’”
.

User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 05 Jan 2007 05:41:44 PM
"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801

(excerpt)

HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON’T SAY — Orders to Cater to
Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on Geology

Washington, DC — Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an
official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to
pressure from Bush administration appointees.

This may sound like an over-reaction but the last line makes my blood run
cold. What happened to separation of church and state? Doesn't this
frighten people? Why do they tolerate it?
--
Rhi
.
User: "Charles"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 05 Jan 2007 06:19:34 PM
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:41:44 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:48qdna35MfQlJgDYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@rcn.net...

http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801

(excerpt)

HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON’T SAY — Orders to Cater to
Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on Geology

Washington, DC — Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an
official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to
pressure from Bush administration appointees.


This may sound like an over-reaction but the last line makes my blood run
cold. What happened to separation of church and state? Doesn't this
frighten people? Why do they tolerate it?

From what was said in the geo group, it simply is not accurate.
A quote from her post:
"Rather than comment on a news release from a group with an ax to
grind,
I would think you 'scientists' would go examine things firsthand.
I was at the park in Dec. 2004. Interpretive signs in several
visitor's
centers had geologic ages and dates on them. At one visitor's center,
I
attended a geology program given by uniformed staff. While it wasn't a
constant stream of dates and ages (not a good interpretive principle
anywhere, BTW) the interpreter clearly spoke of millions of years of
geology in the development of the Colorado Plateau. He had a really
cute
hand-held rock sequence showing the major rock formations, and told us
point blank the age of the Vishnu Schist (about one and a half to two
billion years old)."
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 06 Jan 2007 10:28:02 AM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:41:44 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:48qdna35MfQlJgDYnZ2dnUVZ_veinZ2d@rcn.net...

http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=801

(excerpt)

HOW OLD IS THE GRAND CANYON? PARK SERVICE WON'T SAY - Orders to Cater to
Creationists Makes National Park Agnostic on Geology

Washington, DC - Grand Canyon National Park is not permitted to give an
official estimate of the geologic age of its principal feature, due to
pressure from Bush administration appointees.


This may sound like an over-reaction but the last line makes my blood run
cold. What happened to separation of church and state? Doesn't this
frighten people? Why do they tolerate it?


From what was said in the geo group, it simply is not accurate.

A quote from her post:

"Rather than comment on a news release from a group with an ax to
grind, I would think you 'scientists' would go examine things firsthand.

I was at the park in Dec. 2004. Interpretive signs in several
visitor's centers had geologic ages and dates on them. At one visitor's
center, I attended a geology program given by uniformed staff. While it
wasn't a constant stream of dates and ages (not a good interpretive
principle anywhere, BTW) the interpreter clearly spoke of millions of
years of geology in the development of the Colorado Plateau. He had a
really cute hand-held rock sequence showing the major rock formations, and
told us point blank the age of the Vishnu Schist (about one and a half to
two billion years old)."

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 12:45:45 AM
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.

Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 12:40:51 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?

why, yes. having reasoned to the conclusion and verified it, i also applaud
the efforts of those who reach it thoughtlessly. since it's the correct
conclusion, you see.
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 05:07:59 PM
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:40:51 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?


why, yes. having reasoned to the conclusion and verified it, i also applaud
the efforts of those who reach it thoughtlessly. since it's the correct
conclusion, you see.

Apparently it isn't the correct conclusion (the issue of what park
officials can and cannot say), and whether or not Bush is an ***** is an
opinion.
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 05:26:54 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:g8v2q2d2li6c80n2etjoe6c82ojc17pjgs@news.easynews.com...

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 13:40:51 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:hm51q2h756cbierhtkd9g384hmro5hg3h8@news.easynews.com...

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of
such interference from government officials, even if turns out to be
groundless on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called
for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?


why, yes. having reasoned to the conclusion and verified it, i also
applaud the efforts of those who reach it thoughtlessly. since it's the
correct conclusion, you see.


Apparently it isn't the correct conclusion (the issue of what park
officials can and cannot say), and whether or not Bush is an ***** is an
opinion.

it is both a correct conclusion and a correct opinion that bush
is an *****.
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 11:18:31 PM
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:26:54 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:g8v2q2d2li6c80n2etjoe6c82ojc17pjgs@news.easynews.com...


Apparently it isn't the correct conclusion (the issue of what park
officials can and cannot say), and whether or not Bush is an ***** is an
opinion.


it is both a correct conclusion and a correct opinion that bush
is an *****.

You'd make a good Jehovah's Witness...
.




User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 02:16:46 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:hm51q2h756cbierhtkd9g384hmro5hg3h8@news.easynews.com...

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?

Having proved to the world that he is an *****, no "thoughtless jumping"
is required.
--
Rhi
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 05:09:00 PM
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:16:46 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:hm51q2h756cbierhtkd9g384hmro5hg3h8@news.easynews.com...

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?


Having proved to the world that he is an *****, no "thoughtless jumping"
is required.

Proved to the world? Every one of the over six billion people on the planet
believe the same?
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 05:28:18 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:1bv2q2193pddvm5eb3lj1lr5l88uldsb7p@news.easynews.com...

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:16:46 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:hm51q2h756cbierhtkd9g384hmro5hg3h8@news.easynews.com...

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of
such interference from government officials, even if turns out to be
groundless on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called
for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?


Having proved to the world that he is an *****, no "thoughtless jumping"
is required.


Proved to the world? Every one of the over six billion people on the
planet believe the same?

pretty much. of course that doesn't make it true. it's true independently
of what anyone believes.
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 11:19:57 PM
On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 18:28:18 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:1bv2q2193pddvm5eb3lj1lr5l88uldsb7p@news.easynews.com...


Proved to the world? Every one of the over six billion people on the
planet believe the same?


pretty much. of course that doesn't make it true. it's true independently
of what anyone believes.

Good thing Bush is in the "Not letting others define who you are" lifeboat
with Jordy...
.




User: "GlennT"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 06:45:52 AM
CyberDroog wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?

I don't think you have to be opportunistic to call Bush an *****.
Just being realistic is enough.
.

User: "Charles"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 03:30:04 PM
On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:45:45 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?

Denigrating Pres. Bush is the national sport. the more strained the
reasoning, the more points you get.
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 07 Jan 2007 05:06:14 PM
"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAP.west.net> wrote in message
news:8hp2q25t91310j6tj8q2j2f3bpev034jbl@4ax.com...

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:45:45 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be
groundless on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called
for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?


Denigrating Pres. Bush is the national sport. the more strained the
reasoning, the more points you get.

it's an international sport, actually. but we out here in the larger world
have an excuse. we've never had a chance to vote against him.
.

User: "jordy"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 01:38:33 PM
Charles wrote:

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 06:45:45 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 11:28:02 -0500, "cal" <cal@gmNOSPAMail.com> wrote:

ok then. still, i applaud the outrage of people at the suggestion of such
interference from government officials, even if turns out to be groundless
on this or that occasion. in these times, vigilance is called for.


Ahem... you still applaud the thoughtless jumping to conclusions and
opportunistic calling of President Bush an *****?



Denigrating Pres. Bush is the national sport. the more strained the
reasoning, the more points you get.

I don't know... Bush is surely going to be considered the very
worst president in U.S. history by many people... some of the reasoning
may be strained, much of it may be sound, but Bush has done an enormous
amount to earn the criticism... however, as unpopular as he is at the
present time, he could do one thing that would increase his popularity
a great deal. he could resign.
-"Jordy"
.
User: "Bruce."

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 01:45:47 PM
"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I don't know... Bush is surely going to be considered the very
worst president in U.S. history by many people... some of the reasoning
may be strained, much of it may be sound, but Bush has done an enormous
amount to earn the criticism... however, as unpopular as he is at the
present time, he could do one thing that would increase his popularity
a great deal. he could resign.

What I don't understand is why he can't be impeached. There's no reason we
have to wait for the elections. He's guilty of war crimes, and if that's
not impeachable then I don't know what is.
Bruce.
.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 02:38:12 PM
"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168285113.693202.281370@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com...

I don't know... Bush is surely going to be considered the very
worst president in U.S. history by many people... some of the reasoning
may be strained, much of it may be sound, but Bush has done an enormous
amount to earn the criticism... however, as unpopular as he is at the
present time, he could do one thing that would increase his popularity
a great deal. he could resign.


What I don't understand is why he can't be impeached. There's no reason

we

have to wait for the elections. He's guilty of war crimes, and if that's
not impeachable then I don't know what is.

Bruce.

I don't understand that either.
--
Rhi
.

User: "jordy"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 01:51:11 PM
Bruce. wrote:

"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168285113.693202.281370@q40g2000cwq.googlegroups.com...

I don't know... Bush is surely going to be considered the very
worst president in U.S. history by many people... some of the reasoning
may be strained, much of it may be sound, but Bush has done an enormous
amount to earn the criticism... however, as unpopular as he is at the
present time, he could do one thing that would increase his popularity
a great deal. he could resign.


What I don't understand is why he can't be impeached. There's no reason we
have to wait for the elections. He's guilty of war crimes, and if that's
not impeachable then I don't know what is.

Bruce.

war crimes? thousands of deaths and serious injuries? misleading the
country and the world? spying on his citizens? dismantling the
constitution? nah... those are minor little things... to be impeached,
he needs to do something really, really serious... like have a private,
consensual affair with an intern...
-"Jordy"
.
User: "Bruce."

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 02:30:55 PM
"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168285871.258272.7010@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...

war crimes? thousands of deaths and serious injuries? misleading the
country and the world? spying on his citizens? dismantling the
constitution? nah... those are minor little things... to be impeached,
he needs to do something really, really serious... like have a private,
consensual affair with an intern...

Exactly. The double standard is painful to see. For the first time in my
life, I'm embarrassed and ashamed to be a citizen of this country.
Bruce.
.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 11:26:26 PM
"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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war crimes? thousands of deaths and serious injuries? misleading the
country and the world? spying on his citizens? dismantling the
constitution? nah... those are minor little things... to be impeached,
he needs to do something really, really serious... like have a private,
consensual affair with an intern...


Exactly. The double standard is painful to see. For the first time in my
life, I'm embarrassed and ashamed to be a citizen of this country.

Bruce.

Oh, no don't be ashamed, you're good people, and it's people like you who
will redeem your country.
--
Rhi
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 08 Jan 2007 11:29:09 PM
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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war crimes? thousands of deaths and serious injuries? misleading the
country and the world? spying on his citizens? dismantling the
constitution? nah... those are minor little things... to be impeached,
he needs to do something really, really serious... like have a

private,

consensual affair with an intern...


Exactly. The double standard is painful to see. For the first time in

my

life, I'm embarrassed and ashamed to be a citizen of this country.

Bruce.


Oh, no don't be ashamed, you're good people, and it's people like you who
will redeem your country.

--
Rhi

you're just saying that because of how you look


.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 09 Jan 2007 04:12:21 AM
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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war crimes? thousands of deaths and serious injuries? misleading

the

country and the world? spying on his citizens? dismantling the
constitution? nah... those are minor little things... to be

impeached,

he needs to do something really, really serious... like have a

private,

consensual affair with an intern...


Exactly. The double standard is painful to see. For the first time

in

my

life, I'm embarrassed and ashamed to be a citizen of this country.

Bruce.


Oh, no don't be ashamed, you're good people, and it's people like you

who

will redeem your country.

--
Rhi


you're just saying that because of how you look

I think I look average. What I say comes from how I feel. Like most people
I guess.
--
Rhi
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 09 Jan 2007 02:04:43 PM
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:12:21 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I think I look average. What I say comes from how I feel. Like most people
I guess.

Average? Judging by the somewhat fuzzy pictures on the a.s.d. pics page I
think you are quite attractive. Big, beautiful eyes and a smile to match.
If that is average in Canada, I think I want to visit the country sometime.
.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 09 Jan 2007 05:21:45 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 05:12:21 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>

wrote:


I think I look average. What I say comes from how I feel. Like most

people

I guess.


Average? Judging by the somewhat fuzzy pictures on the a.s.d. pics page I
think you are quite attractive. Big, beautiful eyes and a smile to match.

If that is average in Canada, I think I want to visit the country

sometime.
Heh...heh...thank you droog, that was a sweet thing to say. If you ever do
venture up to these parts Cal and I could take you and the missus out for an
*untainted* beef burger, REALLY good beer, while we debate this stuff until
Dave's cow comes home. :-)
--
Rhi
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 10 Jan 2007 11:26:37 AM
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:21:45 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Heh...heh...thank you droog, that was a sweet thing to say. If you ever do
venture up to these parts Cal and I could take you and the missus out for an
*untainted* beef burger, REALLY good beer, while we debate this stuff until
Dave's cow comes home. :-)

Untainted beef burger?
.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 10 Jan 2007 12:33:13 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:21:45 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>

wrote:


Heh...heh...thank you droog, that was a sweet thing to say. If you ever

do

venture up to these parts Cal and I could take you and the missus out for

an

*untainted* beef burger, REALLY good beer, while we debate this stuff

until

Dave's cow comes home. :-)


Untainted beef burger?

Oh, my lame sense of humour poking fun at the tainted beef scandal in
Canada. :-)
--
Rhi
.

User: "cal"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 10 Jan 2007 12:01:10 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:21:45 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

Heh...heh...thank you droog, that was a sweet thing to say. If you ever
do venture up to these parts Cal and I could take you and the missus out
for an *untainted* beef burger, REALLY good beer, while we debate this
stuff until Dave's cow comes home. :-)


Untainted beef burger?

a refreshing alternative to pure bull.
.






User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 09 Jan 2007 03:20:14 AM
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 00:26:26 -0500, "Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote:

"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:3Sxoh.57759$qO4.36213@newssvr13.news.prodigy.net...

"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168285871.258272.7010@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com...

war crimes? thousands of deaths and serious injuries? misleading the
country and the world? spying on his citizens? dismantling the
constitution? nah... those are minor little things... to be impeached,
he needs to do something really, really serious... like have a private,
consensual affair with an intern...


Exactly. The double standard is painful to see. For the first time in my
life, I'm embarrassed and ashamed to be a citizen of this country.

Bruce.


Oh, no don't be ashamed, you're good people, and it's people like you who
will redeem your country.

Why not be ashamed? He voted for an admitted war criminal - John Kerry -
and now his guilty conscience is fighting to attribute the same crimes to
Bush.
.
User: "Bruce."

Title: Re: Noah's flood created the Grand Canyon? 09 Jan 2007 08:30:36 AM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:mgn6q2hi79kdbht7751c6vbc2l8hp7kbte@news.easynews.com...

Why not be ashamed? He voted for an admitted war criminal - John Kerry -
and now his guilty conscience is fighting to attribute the same crimes to
Bush.

I did not vote for Kerry.
Bruce.
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