"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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We don't make sense. We want to get close but we feel trapped. We are

lonely but we

like being alone. We want someone who will be honest with us but we are

always

attracted to people who use tactics and manipulation..

So I was right all along. People will always be scared. They'll keep on
running away. Most of us will end up alone. No one will get who they
really want the most. It's hopeless. At the end he finds a way off and
goes home. Doesn't he? But how many spend their lives just staying on the
island? Oh, and ball was named Wilson for the manufacturer who made it.

--
Rhi

Telling a children to become a children like as telling an adult to
become an adult. Telling an adult to become a children, telling a
children to become a adult. Telling a teeager to stop growing pain
started around age 13 and when are they free from the growing pain
which is telling them to face reality and gett it on moving.

Willson!

we are all along.

jill wrote:

It's kind of sad that so many people don't get along with each
other, both on ASD, and in the real world... It makes sense though,
that that would be the case... when there is a very diverse group of
people with different personalities, temperaments, backrounds,
experiances, ways of seeing the world there is bound to be people who
don't get along, disagreements, misunderstandings etc... It's always a
nice thing though when people who are very different can make an effort
to understand each other and to get along... people can be so hard to
understand... sometimes I'll spend hours and hours and hours analyzing
people, their behavior and psychology, trying to understand them
better, but it can be very difficult, paticularly if you've never met
them in person... and of course it's difficult to be completly
objective about anyone, without letting your own paticular issues and
prejudices get in the way of your view of the person... some people
just do seem to have a lot of different sides to them... everyone is a
complex 3 dimensional person, even though some people seem more complex
then others..


-"jordie"

hey alvin,, It's noble to try to reach a deeper understanding.. It
is also true that people are not rational. We don't make decisions
based on a process of logical deduction. We don't make sense. We
want to get close but we feel trapped. We are lonely but we like
being alone. We want someone who will be honest with us but we are
always attracted to people who use tactics and manipulation.. Most
true of all I think is we do everything out of some feeling we have
about who we are. When we look at other people we don't even see them
really. We only see what they see when they look at us. Its crazy
really. I am trying to go inward and get away from that ,, I feel like
I am stuck on a road that just goes round and round.
Maybe thats what that movie tom hanks did was all about, getting off
that road,, You know the one where he was stuck on a desert island
with that basketball. Maybe that movie was about how we become so
reactive that we completely loose sight of who we are. And maybe the
truth is we can only ever reach a better understanding of who we are.
Maybe thru that doorway we can see others more clearly . The truth is
one can never really know what it feels like to be another person. the
truth is feelings are unperdictable and random. Heck maybe they are
not even coming from us , maybe they are just coming thru us,, thats a
scary thought,, I don't know but I like the desert island idea,, when
do I leave and what was the name of that basketball?? hope all is
okay with you, jill

Hi Jill. I think I know what you mean... it is something that is
frustrating though... my therapist always tells me that I have a very
good understanding of deep psychological insights... I used to get a
little upset when she said that. I didn't quite believe it, and I
thought she was putting me on a little to make me feel better, or at
least exaggerating a little... I don't know... I definatly have an
abstract, associative, psychological way of seeing things, but as you
say, it's still really hard to figure people out, which is very
frustrating... I really do spend so much time trying to figure people
out, myself out, trying to make sense of the past... I'm a pretty
obsessive person in many ways... I'd like to think in less abstract and
more concrete ways, but that's something that has always been difficult
for me... I think to a large extent I think of ASD as kind of a
journal, a place to not only interact with people, and give support,
but also a place to work through deep issues, thoughts, feelings,
ideas, fears, obsessions... you are always really open and honest, and
I appreciate that... yeah, it's just sad sometimes how big a gulf there
is between people... and so often I think we get angry at other people
because they remind us of parts of ourselves that make us
uncomfortable... for example, I've been thinking a lot lately about how
people who seem "conventional", "traditional" and "old fashioned" make
me uncomfortable, and I realize that I'm uncomfortable with all the
parts of myself that are these things... I'd like to think that mixed
feelings are the most natural to have... not that strong feelings are
canceled out, but I'd like to believe that people are made up of
layers... on the surface there is one layer, which is a mask, and the
mask is covering up other layers, and under those layers is the core,
which is perfect... the comprehensive Enneagram book which I read,
helped me understand myself a lot better... I realized that I'm a "4"
on the enneagram, and often an average to unhealthy "4"... I'm sure
I'll always be a "4", but I would like to move up a few levels and at
least be a fairly healthy "4"...

best wishes to you,

"jordie"