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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Trishamolson"
Date: 03 Jun 2004 06:33:01 AM
Object: Not Important
The mailman came. The copy of his article finally got here from the library.
It is the first thing he published on his own (we had previously co-authored a
piece on Nietzsche, nobility, and the transitory). I waited seven years to read
this piece. Of course now he is working on two books, and this little first
article is not so meaningful of all that happened.
I found my name in two places where he thanks me for insights. That could of
meant something. It could have been a sad but sweet acknowledgment of what we
once shared. But it means nothing. I had to force him to do it when I found
out that he had copied some of my work in the article. I said I would be
satisfied with an acknowledging citation . . . I would not have exposed him
even if he didn't. That is how bound up I am still in this sorrowful affair.
He took so much, I can't describe it in a way that would make sens to anyone
who did not witness it. He sucked on my soul trying to breath in any bit of
knowledge that might be there about the beatitude, nobility, purpose, as taught
by the thinkers in our western tradition of thought. I could feel my soul
being chewed upon. He did not study these matters as a distant intellectual
but because they implicated deep troubling questions he had about the nature of
law, civlity, conscience . . . he knows he is a sociopath and that he lacks a
core.
But I needed to get this article for he did the translations of a certain
Roman-canonical jurist, and I needed to go to the right secondary literature
that exists on it and it is this piece of work. One must be professional about
these matters . . . I will cite it.
I wonder sometimes if after he and I are long dead, will there be a student
somewhere interested in the same subjects who comes across our writings and
sees the cross references, or the way certain ideas overlap, and will that
student piece together the relationship behind the texts?? I can do this with
Arendt and Hediegger (though I happen to know of their affair too). All the
years they were separate, they still spoke to each other in a way through the
work . . .
I am sad. I love a demon. And that is corrupt and will always stand in the
way of really recovering. Somehow I must let go in my heart. Maria is the
only sign to me of light and the reality of that light in comparison to the
darkness I seem to lust after. Thank God for her preciousness existing in this
world.
Rosena
.

User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 07:57:07 AM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040603073301.13966.00000328@mb-m18.aol.com...


The mailman came. The copy of his article finally got here from the

library.

It is the first thing he published on his own (we had previously

co-authored a

piece on Nietzsche, nobility, and the transitory). I waited seven years to

read

this piece. Of course now he is working on two books, and this little

first

article is not so meaningful of all that happened.

I found my name in two places where he thanks me for insights. That could

of

meant something. It could have been a sad but sweet acknowledgment of

what we

once shared. But it means nothing. I had to force him to do it when I

found

out that he had copied some of my work in the article. I said I would be
satisfied with an acknowledging citation . . . I would not have exposed

him

even if he didn't. That is how bound up I am still in this sorrowful

affair.


He took so much, I can't describe it in a way that would make sens to

anyone

who did not witness it. He sucked on my soul trying to breath in any bit

of

knowledge that might be there about the beatitude, nobility, purpose, as

taught

by the thinkers in our western tradition of thought. I could feel my soul
being chewed upon. He did not study these matters as a distant

intellectual

but because they implicated deep troubling questions he had about the

nature of

law, civlity, conscience . . . he knows he is a sociopath and that he

lacks a

core.

But I needed to get this article for he did the translations of a certain
Roman-canonical jurist, and I needed to go to the right secondary

literature

that exists on it and it is this piece of work. One must be professional

about

these matters . . . I will cite it.

I wonder sometimes if after he and I are long dead, will there be a

student

somewhere interested in the same subjects who comes across our writings

and

sees the cross references, or the way certain ideas overlap, and will that
student piece together the relationship behind the texts?? I can do this

with

Arendt and Hediegger (though I happen to know of their affair too). All

the

years they were separate, they still spoke to each other in a way through

the

work . . .

I am sad. I love a demon. And that is corrupt and will always stand in

the

way of really recovering. Somehow I must let go in my heart. Maria is

the

only sign to me of light and the reality of that light in comparison to

the

darkness I seem to lust after. Thank God for her preciousness existing in

this

world.

Rosena

so ... what's on your flip side ?
.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 09:14:13 AM

so ... what's on your flip side ?

I am going to give you a serious answer. I have no idea what is on the flip
side, and obviously I am having a hard time turning thisrecord over to play a
new side. But, I am more sure lately that there IS a flip side. And I am just
going to continue my work and teaching and caring for Maria and struggle to
flip the record over.
Rosena
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 09:22:28 AM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040603101413.11903.00000262@mb-m27.aol.com...

so ... what's on your flip side ?

I am going to give you a serious answer. I have no idea what is on the

flip

side, and obviously I am having a hard time turning thisrecord over to

play a

new side. But, I am more sure lately that there IS a flip side. And I am

just

going to continue my work and teaching and caring for Maria and struggle

to

flip the record over.

Rosena

that would really impress me , not to say you are here to impress me ,
but i just wanted to let you know that i'm getting the idea that ,
your relationships with some of the people in your life aren't going well
and that you love your daughter but i would like to add , this is not all
that abnormal
.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 10:33:14 AM

that would really impress me , not to say you are here to impress me ,

Thanks, that means something to me. If I can flip the record over it will
impress me too :)

but i just wanted to let you know that i'm getting the idea that ,>your

relationships with some of the people in your life aren't going well
Yep -- but as you always tell people (implicitly) make the changes necessary.

and that you love your daughter but i would like to add , this is not all
that abnormal

Thanks. Maria would get a real kick out of you I think. I guess that you can
be a very loving father.
Rosena
.
User: "% surfs@uniserve"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 10:36:48 AM
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040603113314.11903.00000265@mb-m27.aol.com...

that would really impress me , not to say you are here to impress me ,


Thanks, that means something to me. If I can flip the record over it will
impress me too :)

but i just wanted to let you know that i'm getting the idea that ,>your

relationships with some of the people in your life aren't going well

Yep -- but as you always tell people (implicitly) make the changes

necessary.


and that you love your daughter but i would like to add , this is not all
that abnormal


Thanks. Maria would get a real kick out of you I think. I guess that you

can

be a very loving father.

Rosena


no , i don't make a very good father to children at all ,
but i do make a really good best friend to them ,
but its easy we're on the same level
.





User: "Contrarian"

Title: Re: Not Important 06 Jun 2004 05:43:45 AM
Trishamolson <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote:

The mailman came. The copy of his article finally got here from the library.

"His" is not the mailman, I gather.

satisfied with an acknowledging citation . . . I would not have exposed him
even if he didn't. That is how bound up I am still in this sorrowful affair.

"Bound up" is the right word. Have you seen Patrick Carnes book
_ The Betrayal Bond _ It isn't written with the greatest complexity
or the detail that you (R.) probably crave but I re read it regularly

But I needed to get this article for he did the translations of a certain
Roman-canonical jurist

OOH that is excruciating.

I am sad. I love a demon. And that is corrupt and will always stand in the
way of really recovering. Somehow I must let go in my heart.

Wow.
I remember one line for the above-cited book, approx.
"First you have to accept that the betrayal occurred"
I don't feel ready to post about my own issues with betrayal (but
it did involve an academic recommendation )
.

User: "harakiri"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 08:44:15 AM
i think if he got what he deserves, things would be better. i REALLY dont
think you love him. that's not the right description. i've been through
similar ***** relationships. His name was John even! but that's a
common name. in my case the dirtbags got what they deserved. Your John is
walking in high places. when he falls, they wont even be able to identify
him from his dental patterns. lastly, you're a lot stronger than me. and
doing a lot better!
"Trishamolson" <trishamolson@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040603073301.13966.00000328@mb-m18.aol.com...


The mailman came. The copy of his article finally got here from the

library.

It is the first thing he published on his own (we had previously

co-authored a

piece on Nietzsche, nobility, and the transitory). I waited seven years to

read

this piece. Of course now he is working on two books, and this little

first

article is not so meaningful of all that happened.

I found my name in two places where he thanks me for insights. That could

of

meant something. It could have been a sad but sweet acknowledgment of

what we

once shared. But it means nothing. I had to force him to do it when I

found

out that he had copied some of my work in the article. I said I would be
satisfied with an acknowledging citation . . . I would not have exposed

him

even if he didn't. That is how bound up I am still in this sorrowful

affair.


He took so much, I can't describe it in a way that would make sens to

anyone

who did not witness it. He sucked on my soul trying to breath in any bit

of

knowledge that might be there about the beatitude, nobility, purpose, as

taught

by the thinkers in our western tradition of thought. I could feel my soul
being chewed upon. He did not study these matters as a distant

intellectual

but because they implicated deep troubling questions he had about the

nature of

law, civlity, conscience . . . he knows he is a sociopath and that he

lacks a

core.

But I needed to get this article for he did the translations of a certain
Roman-canonical jurist, and I needed to go to the right secondary

literature

that exists on it and it is this piece of work. One must be professional

about

these matters . . . I will cite it.

I wonder sometimes if after he and I are long dead, will there be a

student

somewhere interested in the same subjects who comes across our writings

and

sees the cross references, or the way certain ideas overlap, and will that
student piece together the relationship behind the texts?? I can do this

with

Arendt and Hediegger (though I happen to know of their affair too). All

the

years they were separate, they still spoke to each other in a way through

the

work . . .

I am sad. I love a demon. And that is corrupt and will always stand in

the

way of really recovering. Somehow I must let go in my heart. Maria is

the

only sign to me of light and the reality of that light in comparison to

the

darkness I seem to lust after. Thank God for her preciousness existing in

this

world.

Rosena

.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Not Important 03 Jun 2004 09:11:41 AM
..>Your John is

walking in high places. when he falls, they wont even be able to identify
him from his dental patterns

Thanks -- this made me smile -- Just got a kick out of the image. I am sorry
for your John, I hope you weather it all. I read your posts and you have struck
me as strong and insightfyl lady, so please see this.
Best
Rosena
.



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