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23 May 2007 07:52:36 PM |
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NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
the top sellers are ,
1 - viagra
2 - cough syrup with codeine
3 - anti depressants
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 11:11:44 AM |
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On 5/23/2007 6:52 PM, % was all like:
the top sellers are ,
1 - viagra
2 - cough syrup with codeine
3 - anti depressants
Where did you get this info from?
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 11:14:18 AM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5blrppF2tgvtjU1@mid.individual.net...
On 5/23/2007 6:52 PM, % was all like:
the top sellers are ,
1 - viagra
2 - cough syrup with codeine
3 - anti depressants
Where did you get this info from?
CNN the most trusted name in news
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| User: "jordy" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 04:19:34 PM |
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On May 23, 7:52 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
the top sellers are ,
1 - viagra
2 - cough syrup with codeine
3 - anti depressants
A woman on C-span was talking today about how democrats are to
blame for "not supporting the troops"... I've heard this kind of talk
before and it makes me so angry... Instead of blaming the people who
sent the troops to Iraq and put them directly in harms way, they blame
the democrats who "don't support" them by wanting them to get the hell
out of there... It's just insane reasoning... not that the democrats
shouldn't be less cowardly and stand up to Bush, but to blame them is
ridiculous... people support the troops by wanting them to come back
as soon as possible... how is it supportive of them to have them stay
there and be severely injured or killed for no reason?
-"Jordy"
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 04:25:12 PM |
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"jordy" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1180041574.421305.166450@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On May 23, 7:52 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:
the top sellers are ,
1 - viagra
2 - cough syrup with codeine
3 - anti depressants
A woman on C-span was talking today about how democrats are to
blame for "not supporting the troops"... I've heard this kind of talk
before and it makes me so angry... Instead of blaming the people who
sent the troops to Iraq and put them directly in harms way, they blame
the democrats who "don't support" them by wanting them to get the hell
out of there... It's just insane reasoning... not that the democrats
shouldn't be less cowardly and stand up to Bush, but to blame them is
ridiculous... people support the troops by wanting them to come back
as soon as possible... how is it supportive of them to have them stay
there and be severely injured or killed for no reason?
-"Jordy"
soon they'll be here posting
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| User: "slunky" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 05:01:01 PM |
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_/ jordy wrote \_
A woman on C-span was talking today about how democrats are to
blame for "not supporting the troops"... I've heard this kind of talk
before and it makes me so angry... Instead of blaming the people who
sent the troops to Iraq and put them directly in harms way, they blame
the democrats who "don't support" them by wanting them to get the hell
out of there... It's just insane reasoning... not that the democrats
shouldn't be less cowardly and stand up to Bush, but to blame them is
ridiculous... people support the troops by wanting them to come back
as soon as possible... how is it supportive of them to have them stay
there and be severely injured or killed for no reason?
It's not that they think people who want them to come home aren't
supportive. It's people saying that they're doing a crappy job and
losing the war that isn't supportive.
--
-slunky
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| User: "jordy" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 05:15:39 PM |
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On May 24, 5:01 pm, slunky <slu...@globalzero.org> wrote:
_/ jordy wrote \_
A woman on C-span was talking today about how democrats are to
blame for "not supporting the troops"... I've heard this kind of talk
before and it makes me so angry... Instead of blaming the people who
sent the troops to Iraq and put them directly in harms way, they blame
the democrats who "don't support" them by wanting them to get the hell
out of there... It's just insane reasoning... not that the democrats
shouldn't be less cowardly and stand up to Bush, but to blame them is
ridiculous... people support the troops by wanting them to come back
as soon as possible... how is it supportive of them to have them stay
there and be severely injured or killed for no reason?
It's not that they think people who want them to come home aren't
supportive. It's people saying that they're doing a crappy job
I don't think many people are saying that... I think most people
blame the bush administration...
and
losing the war that isn't supportive.
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that's just a fact. the war is lost. why not say the truth? at
best, things can improve somewhat, eventually(even that is a stretch.)
but, it's far too late to "win", whatever that means....
-"Jordy"
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| User: "slunky" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
24 May 2007 05:19:34 PM |
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_/ jordy wrote \_
I don't think many people are saying that... I think most people
blame the bush administration...
I blame the Iraqis for not pulling their own weight so our troops can
get out of there.
that's just a fact. the war is lost. why not say the truth? at
best, things can improve somewhat, eventually(even that is a stretch.)
but, it's far too late to "win", whatever that means....
but do you like to be told that what you're doing is a lost cause?
--
-slunky
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
25 May 2007 03:05:19 AM |
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In message <slrnf5c3rl.11h.slunky@evo.zero>, slunky
<slunky@globalzero.org> writes
_/ jordy wrote \_
I don't think many people are saying that... I think most people
blame the bush administration...
I blame the Iraqis for not pulling their own weight so our troops can
get out of there.
that's just a fact. the war is lost. why not say the truth? at
best, things can improve somewhat, eventually(even that is a stretch.)
but, it's far too late to "win", whatever that means....
but do you like to be told that what you're doing is a lost cause?
A question being aired over here is, put simply, has military
intervention by the countries that triggered a civil war ever stopped
one? One can support the individual soldiers as much as you like, but
maybe pulling out is the only way to allow peace in Iraq; the
reconstruction came to nothing, and we're just there to be shot at.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Janithor" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
25 May 2007 05:30:03 AM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <slrnf5c3rl.11h.slunky@evo.zero>, slunky
<slunky@globalzero.org> writes
_/ jordy wrote \_
I don't think many people are saying that... I think most people
blame the bush administration...
I blame the Iraqis for not pulling their own weight so our troops can
get out of there.
that's just a fact. the war is lost. why not say the truth? at
best, things can improve somewhat, eventually(even that is a stretch.)
but, it's far too late to "win", whatever that means....
but do you like to be told that what you're doing is a lost cause?
A question being aired over here is, put simply, has military
intervention by the countries that triggered a civil war ever stopped
one? One can support the individual soldiers as much as you like, but
maybe pulling out is the only way to allow peace in Iraq; the
reconstruction came to nothing, and we're just there to be shot at.
Requisite caveat 1: I think the war in Iraq was a huge strategic
mistake, I even tentatively support impeachment of Bush for the
catastrophic failure and subsequent brushing off of anything wrong - the
guy who said it would be a slam dunk to find WMD gets awarded a medal.
Requisite caveat 2: I don't think we can bring about any type of peace
given the structure of Iraq & the Arab & Muslim worlds. At least not
with the strategies we are employing now or may feasibly employ in the
future (e.g. a "surge" of a ~20,000 troops.)
That being said, do you really think that by leaving, suddenly the
clouds will clear, flowers will boom, the puppies and kittens will come
out, and everything will flourish in peace and harmony while everyone
drinks a coke? Every single day in Baghdad alone they find scores of
bodies, brutally tortured (eyes gouged out, limbs smashed, torched
bodies, holes drilled into body parts with power drills, etc...) and the
hands tied behind their backs, bodies dumped somewhere. Do you think
that will magically stop once we leave? I'm not saying staying is going
to stop it either, but leaving won't stop it either.
I don't know the solution. Staying is not good, leaving is not good.
It's a mess.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
28 May 2007 03:52:15 PM |
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In message <4656BA7D.3020103@comcast.net>, Janithor
<Janithor@comcast.net> writes
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <slrnf5c3rl.11h.slunky@evo.zero>, slunky
<slunky@globalzero.org> writes
_/ jordy wrote \_
I don't think many people are saying that... I think most people
blame the bush administration...
I blame the Iraqis for not pulling their own weight so our troops can
get out of there.
that's just a fact. the war is lost. why not say the truth? at
best, things can improve somewhat, eventually(even that is a stretch.)
but, it's far too late to "win", whatever that means....
but do you like to be told that what you're doing is a lost cause?
A question being aired over here is, put simply, has military
intervention by the countries that triggered a civil war ever stopped
one? One can support the individual soldiers as much as you like, but
maybe pulling out is the only way to allow peace in Iraq; the
reconstruction came to nothing, and we're just there to be shot at.
Requisite caveat 1: I think the war in Iraq was a huge strategic
mistake, I even tentatively support impeachment of Bush for the
catastrophic failure and subsequent brushing off of anything wrong -
the guy who said it would be a slam dunk to find WMD gets awarded a medal.
Requisite caveat 2: I don't think we can bring about any type of peace
given the structure of Iraq & the Arab & Muslim worlds. At least not
with the strategies we are employing now or may feasibly employ in the
future (e.g. a "surge" of a ~20,000 troops.)
That being said, do you really think that by leaving, suddenly the
clouds will clear, flowers will boom, the puppies and kittens will come
out, and everything will flourish in peace and harmony while everyone
drinks a coke? Every single day in Baghdad alone they find scores of
bodies, brutally tortured (eyes gouged out, limbs smashed, torched
bodies, holes drilled into body parts with power drills, etc...) and
the hands tied behind their backs, bodies dumped somewhere. Do you
think that will magically stop once we leave? I'm not saying staying
is going to stop it either, but leaving won't stop it either.
I don't know the solution. Staying is not good, leaving is not good.
It's a mess.
I wasn't posting about what I think, but I don't believe there's going
to be a solution until we leave. That there will be a civil war is a
legacy of the settlement to World War 1, and inevitable, given the false
boundaries that were created then. It took a strong central government
to hold together a disparate country. We've removed that centre, and
replaced it with a weak democracy, assuming democracy works everywhere.
It will fail, there will be war after we leave, and the country will
probably split apart. In my current opinion.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Jesters mummy" |
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| Title: Re: NOW THAT IRAQIS CAN BUY PHARMACEUTICALS |
25 May 2007 08:16:26 AM |
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On Fri, 25 May 2007 10:30:03 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
<(((*>x-no-archive: yes
<(((*>That being said, do you really think that by leaving, suddenly the
<(((*>clouds will clear, flowers will boom, the puppies and kittens will come
<(((*>out, and everything will flourish in peace and harmony while everyone
I don't think anyone believes peace is going to break out if the Americans
leave, Thor. It's just as farfetched as believing that the Iraqis were going to
welcome American troops with flowers, and we all know how THAT turned out.
<(((*>drinks a coke? Every single day in Baghdad alone they find scores of
<(((*>bodies, brutally tortured (eyes gouged out, limbs smashed, torched
<(((*>bodies, holes drilled into body parts with power drills, etc...) and the
<(((*>hands tied behind their backs, bodies dumped somewhere. Do you think
<(((*>that will magically stop once we leave? I'm not saying staying is going
<(((*>to stop it either, but leaving won't stop it either.
As long as American troops are in Iraq I doubt the Arab world is going to make
any serious effort to intervene in Iraq. The US is such a convenient scapegoat;
you get all the blame and none of the credit.
If you bring your soldiers home, though, the Arab world can't blame the Iraq
mess on you any more.
And then the Arabs and Persians and Turks (oh my!) will probably divvy up Iraq
into its logical parts, and after much more violence everyone will settle down
again.
Of course my crystal ball is cracked and my predictions may be way off base. But
the one thing I'm sure of is that no matter what else happens, there will be
much more violence.
Tara J. Ballance
Montreal, Canada
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