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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Rich"
Date: 03 Oct 2006 09:55:29 AM
Object: one millipede is worth more than six million jews
If Israel were wiped out tomorrow, along with the six million or so Jews
living there, I wouldn't shed any tears. I would rejoice.
My pets are my friends. No Jew will ever be my friend.
--
- Rich
----------
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Israel/Palestine: http://ifamericansknew.org/
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs: http://wrmea.org/
Remember the USS Liberty! http://www.ussliberty.org/
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do
that... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American
pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the
Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001
"Israel controls the United States Senate." - Sen. William Fulbright
.

User: "cal"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 03 Oct 2006 10:13:07 AM
"Rich" <rick@where.com> wrote in message
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If Israel were wiped out tomorrow, along with the six million or so Jews
living there, I wouldn't shed any tears. I would rejoice.

My pets are my friends. No Jew will ever be my friend.

if your pets had more than primitive insect brains, you'd be too envious of
even them to be their friend. you've found your level. this is how your
malevolence has stunted you.
.
User: "Rhiannon"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 03 Oct 2006 05:10:49 PM

"Rich" <rick@where.com> wrote in message
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If Israel were wiped out tomorrow, along with the six million or so Jews
living there, I wouldn't shed any tears. I would rejoice.

Chances are they would be rejoicing too. God's *Chosen* people with
non-stop tickets directly into Heaven, no questions asked, safe in the
knowledge that YOU won't be able to get in and will have to settle for much
deeper depths (you might like the weather though, I hear it's hot down
there)....maaan...if it were me, I would be rejoicing.

My pets are my friends. No Jew will ever be my friend.

NO ONE will ever be your friend.
--
Rhi
.
User: "Rich"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 03 Oct 2006 11:36:07 PM
"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com> wrote in
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"Rich" <rick@where.com> wrote in message
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If Israel were wiped out tomorrow, along with the six million or so
Jews living there, I wouldn't shed any tears. I would rejoice.


Chances are they would be rejoicing too. God's *Chosen* people with
non-stop tickets directly into Heaven, no questions asked,

False. If they aren't Christians, they won't get into heaven.
safe in the

knowledge that YOU won't be able to get in and will have to settle for
much deeper depths (you might like the weather though, I hear it's hot
down there)....maaan...if it were me, I would be rejoicing.

My pets are my friends. No Jew will ever be my friend.


NO ONE will ever be your friend.

--
Rhi



--
- Rich
----------
If Americans Knew - what every American needs to know about
Israel/Palestine: http://ifamericansknew.org/
Washington Report on Middle East Affairs: http://wrmea.org/
Remember the USS Liberty! http://www.ussliberty.org/
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do
that... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American
pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the
Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001
"Israel controls the United States Senate." - Sen. William Fulbright
.
User: "spy vs spy"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 04:04:57 AM
"Rich" <rick@where.com> wrote in message
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.com> wrote in
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"Rich" <rick@where.com> wrote in message
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If Israel were wiped out tomorrow, along with the six million or so
Jews living there, I wouldn't shed any tears. I would rejoice.


Chances are they would be rejoicing too. God's *Chosen* people with
non-stop tickets directly into Heaven, no questions asked,


False. If they aren't Christians, they won't get into heaven.

safe in the

knowledge that YOU won't be able to get in and will have to settle for
much deeper depths (you might like the weather though, I hear it's hot
down there)....maaan...if it were me, I would be rejoicing.

My pets are my friends. No Jew will ever be my friend.


NO ONE will ever be your friend.

--
Rhi






--
- Rich

You are talking in circles. You say that even if a Jew changes his
religion he is still a filthy Satan filled Jew.
But if he converts and becomes a Christian, are you tell me that Christ
won't accept him into heaven?
Gee it is nice to know you are the authority on everything.
.
User: "boutshka"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 09:06:59 AM
Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.
Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 09:14:04 AM
"boutshka" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.

he just walked like an egyptian.


Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat

.
User: "%"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 09:16:50 AM
"cal" <cal1360@gmaNOSPAMail.com> wrote in message
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"boutshka" <carollombard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.


he just walked like an egyptian.


Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat


way oh way oh

.


User: ""

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 09:49:21 AM
boutshka wrote:

Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.

Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...
-"Jordy"
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 03:41:13 PM
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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boutshka wrote:

Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.

Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat


If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...

being angry at god seems to go with the territory. sometimes i've thought
we're put here to have that and to spend our lives working it out.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 03:49:01 PM
cal wrote:

<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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boutshka wrote:

Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.

Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat


If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


being angry at god seems to go with the territory. sometimes i've thought
we're put here to have that and to spend our lives working it out.

I don't see how you can be a person and not be angry at all the
craziness that goes on in life... and there is absolutly nothing worng
with being angry at God, in my opinion... but I often wonder about
anger... how do you not let anger ruin your life? how do you stop anger
from sapping your spirit and your energy? It's a difficult issue...
Maybe the comedy in life has to be kept in mind, as well as the tragedy
in life... that's what I often tell myself...
-"Jordy"
.
User: "cal"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 04:28:09 PM
<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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cal wrote:

<Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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boutshka wrote:

Moses wasn't a jew, he was an egyptian.

Yours sincly,
Nasser Rarefat


If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


being angry at god seems to go with the territory. sometimes i've thought
we're put here to have that and to spend our lives working it out.


I don't see how you can be a person and not be angry at all the
craziness that goes on in life... and there is absolutly nothing worng
with being angry at God, in my opinion...

i'm sure god doesn't mind. i'm also sure i have next to no understanding of
god. beyond my perception of his cruelty and benevolence, the ways i'm
constrained to seeing, he simply is what he is. i say "he" for convenience
only. the idea of a gendered god makes no sense to me at all, but english
has these dagblasted gendered pronouns.
but anyway, what i learned time after time is that when i raged at god, it
always turned out that i was actually raging about something else. so a
point came where i decided to stop raging at god and ask him to help me find
out what i was really mad about.
i don't know how moses came to terms with being denied entry to the promised
land. but i do know that he did. this is the point beyond human tragedy,
where macbeth stops being evil, hamlet's questions are answered, and lear
finds peace.

but I often wonder about
anger... how do you not let anger ruin your life? how do you stop anger
from sapping your spirit and your energy?

it can do those things, no question. i think the bad stuff happens when
anger is blocked and has no outlet, and when it's released destructively. if
you think of it as energy, it makes sense that finding a non-destructive way
to let it flow through us turns it into a positive, driving force. i think
that's true of all strong feelings: love, fear, sorrow, joy. it's not good
for any of them to have no way to expression. but i guess anger is the one
with the greatest destructive potential, so it needs special attending to.
it's no good pretending it isn't there, if it is. unfortunately that's what
many people try to do.

It's a difficult issue...
Maybe the comedy in life has to be kept in mind, as well as the tragedy
in life... that's what I often tell myself...

definitely. but sometimes things just stop being funny, and it seems like
there's nothing i can do about it.
.



User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 11:11:16 AM
On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,
wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...

I say you go kick God's *****.
I'll wait here...
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 11:15:12 AM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...

I'll go
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 11:18:42 AM
"justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


I'll go

justa call me "Cap'n Dan"

w<

.


User: ""

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 04:44:15 PM
CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...

even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...
-"Jordy"
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 04 Oct 2006 05:17:22 PM
<
> wrote in message
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CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...


yes its a question old as the days of man
.
User: ""

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 03:52:45 PM
justabeing wrote:

<

> wrote in message
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CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...


yes its a question old as the days of man

One question is: Can God create a rock that is too heavy for him to
lift?
-"Jordy"
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 04:20:55 PM
In message <1160081564.979886.143160@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
writes

justabeing wrote:

<

> wrote in message
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CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...

yes its a question old as the days of man


One question is: Can God create a rock that is too heavy for him to
lift?

Since nothing is impossible to God, of course he can do something which
makes it impossible to do something else.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 07:08:54 PM
On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:20:55 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

In message <1160081564.979886.143160@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Icnh@hotmail.com writes


One question is: Can God create a rock that is too heavy for him to
lift?


Since nothing is impossible to God, of course he can do something which
makes it impossible to do something else.

But then that second thing is impossible to God... which is impossible.
.




User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 11:48:39 AM
On 4 Oct 2006 14:44:15 -0700,
wrote:

CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...

I have a different image also. No ancient sky God's for me. They are much
too limited. Obviously they were invented at a time when people understood
much less about the world.
But I don't believe science trumps God. Science just pushes God further
away, or rather the more science discovers means that God must be that much
greater and far more clever. At this point, with quantum physics, a real
God must be above Heisenberg's Law and actually know, to the last quantum
detail, *everything*.
The physical universe may be a random machine on the quantum level, built
and set into motion by God. But although God doesn't throw the dice, he
must know how they are going to land.
Which is a real problem for me. God is a being that exists with no
possibility of ever being surprised. Frankly I'm a little tired of life's
surprises, or at least I wish there were more good surprises. But to live
with no surprises at all? I can't imagine that.
Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 11:53:58 AM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:o2dai2l6at72hr8s7uc2ffcop9112paa84@news.easynews.com...

On 4 Oct 2006 14:44:15 -0700,

wrote:

CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...


I have a different image also. No ancient sky God's for me. They are much
too limited. Obviously they were invented at a time when people understood
much less about the world.

But I don't believe science trumps God. Science just pushes God further
away, or rather the more science discovers means that God must be that
much
greater and far more clever. At this point, with quantum physics, a real
God must be above Heisenberg's Law and actually know, to the last quantum
detail, *everything*.

The physical universe may be a random machine on the quantum level, built
and set into motion by God. But although God doesn't throw the dice, he
must know how they are going to land.

Which is a real problem for me. God is a being that exists with no
possibility of ever being surprised. Frankly I'm a little tired of life's
surprises, or at least I wish there were more good surprises. But to live
with no surprises at all? I can't imagine that.

Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.

How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 05:00:09 PM
In message <GMaVg.1911$NE6.923@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
news:o2dai2l6at72hr8s7uc2ffcop9112paa84@news.easynews.com...

On 4 Oct 2006 14:44:15 -0700,

wrote:

CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...


I have a different image also. No ancient sky God's for me. They are much
too limited. Obviously they were invented at a time when people understood
much less about the world.

But I don't believe science trumps God. Science just pushes God further
away, or rather the more science discovers means that God must be that
much
greater and far more clever. At this point, with quantum physics, a real
God must be above Heisenberg's Law and actually know, to the last quantum
detail, *everything*.

The physical universe may be a random machine on the quantum level, built
and set into motion by God. But although God doesn't throw the dice, he
must know how they are going to land.

Which is a real problem for me. God is a being that exists with no
possibility of ever being surprised. Frankly I'm a little tired of life's
surprises, or at least I wish there were more good surprises. But to live
with no surprises at all? I can't imagine that.

Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.


How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor

How can an omniscient god be surprised?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 05:13:21 PM
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <GMaVg.1911$NE6.923@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On 4 Oct 2006 14:44:15 -0700,

wrote:

CyberDroog wrote:

On 4 Oct 2006 07:49:21 -0700,

wrote:

If moses's mother was jewish, Moses was Jewish. and I'm angry at
God for not letting Moses see the promised land... The God of the old
testement was often such a petty, punitive dictator...


I say you go kick God's *****.

I'll wait here...


even more exciting would be to see God kick his own *****... I just
read about the Question of "Can God kill himself?" I do believe in
God, in a sense... but my image of God is far from the image of the old
testement God...


I have a different image also. No ancient sky God's for me. They are
much
too limited. Obviously they were invented at a time when people
understood
much less about the world.

But I don't believe science trumps God. Science just pushes God further
away, or rather the more science discovers means that God must be that
much
greater and far more clever. At this point, with quantum physics, a real
God must be above Heisenberg's Law and actually know, to the last
quantum
detail, *everything*.

The physical universe may be a random machine on the quantum level,
built
and set into motion by God. But although God doesn't throw the dice, he
must know how they are going to land.

Which is a real problem for me. God is a being that exists with no
possibility of ever being surprised. Frankly I'm a little tired of
life's
surprises, or at least I wish there were more good surprises. But to
live
with no surprises at all? I can't imagine that.

Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.


How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor


How can an omniscient god be surprised?


because it was created within us
would have to be experienced to be created
.


User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 07:03:38 PM
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:53:58 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.


How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor

If God can be surprised than he is not all knowing and, therefore, is not
God.
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 05 Oct 2006 07:06:41 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:53:58 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.


How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor


If God can be surprised than he is not all knowing and, therefore, is not
God.

I believe God is evolving, actually
.
User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 06 Oct 2006 04:33:30 AM
In message <l6hVg.2065$NE6.1720@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:53:58 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.


How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor


If God can be surprised than he is not all knowing and, therefore, is not
God.


I believe God is evolving, actually

Not extra specially created?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 06 Oct 2006 10:55:30 AM
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <l6hVg.2065$NE6.1720@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 16:53:58 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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Any being that exists outside of time and space would already know the
entire history of the universe beginning to end. No room for surprises
there.


How do you know God never is suprised?
Mine is, on a daily basis
also has a great sense of humor


If God can be surprised than he is not all knowing and, therefore, is
not
God.


I believe God is evolving, actually

Not extra specially created?

Yes indeed
Evolution is a form of Creation
Absolutely specially Created
There's still the UnCreated, as well to consider
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 06 Oct 2006 04:36:07 PM
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:55:30 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <l6hVg.2065$NE6.1720@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes


I believe God is evolving, actually

Not extra specially created?

Yes indeed
Evolution is a form of Creation

Absolutely specially Created
There's still the UnCreated, as well to consider

How's about a paradox?
Q: Who created life?
A: God.
Q: Who created God?
A: Life.
It's the Omega Point theory. God does not exist yet. He is in the process
of being created by the evolution of life - at this point mankind in
particular - which seeks to discover everything there is to know about the
universe.
At some point tens of billions of years from now, life will have evolved in
it's quest to gain knowledge and will eventually be able to control every
aspect of the physical universe and, eventually, escape the physical
universe. Once life has become omniscient and escaped the bounds of
space/time, it will be God.
But being outside the bounds of space/time means that God can exist in all
points in space/time simultaneously. So God *does* exist now, even though
he hasn't been created yet.
It's a splendidly simple idea, except for man's inability to deal with the
idea of there being a place where space/time doesn't exist.
.
User: "justabeing"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 06 Oct 2006 04:37:41 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:55:30 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <l6hVg.2065$NE6.1720@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes


I believe God is evolving, actually

Not extra specially created?

Yes indeed
Evolution is a form of Creation

Absolutely specially Created
There's still the UnCreated, as well to consider


How's about a paradox?

Q: Who created life?
A: God.

Q: Who created God?
A: Life.

It's the Omega Point theory. God does not exist yet. He is in the process
of being created by the evolution of life - at this point mankind in
particular - which seeks to discover everything there is to know about the
universe.

At some point tens of billions of years from now, life will have evolved
in
it's quest to gain knowledge and will eventually be able to control every
aspect of the physical universe and, eventually, escape the physical
universe. Once life has become omniscient and escaped the bounds of
space/time, it will be God.

But being outside the bounds of space/time means that God can exist in all
points in space/time simultaneously. So God *does* exist now, even though
he hasn't been created yet.

It's a splendidly simple idea, except for man's inability to deal with the
idea of there being a place where space/time doesn't exist.

excellent and fascinating
.

User: "Alan Harding"

Title: Re: one millipede is worth more than six million jews 07 Oct 2006 01:11:37 AM
In message <3hidi2t57s0usprdq5hqnugjsqk3btgmqo@news.easynews.com>,
CyberDroog <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 15:55:30 GMT, "justabeing" <just.a.being@gmail.com>
wrote:

"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <l6hVg.2065$NE6.1720@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>, justabeing
<just.a.being@gmail.com> writes


I believe God is evolving, actually

Not extra specially created?

Yes indeed
Evolution is a form of Creation

Absolutely specially Created
There's still the UnCreated, as well to consider


How's about a paradox?

Q: Who created life?
A: God.

Q: Who created God?
A: Life.

It's the Omega Point theory. God does not exist yet. He is in the process
of being created by the evolution of life - at this point mankind in
particular - which seeks to discover everything there is to know about the
universe.

At some point tens of billions of years from now, life will have evolved in
it's quest to gain knowledge and will eventually be able to control every
aspect of the physical universe and, eventually, escape the physical
universe. Once life has become omniscient and escaped the bounds of
space/time, it will be God.

But being outside the bounds of space/time means that God can exist in all
points in space/time simultaneously. So God *does* exist now, even though
he hasn't been created yet.

It's a splendidly simple idea, except for man's inability to deal with the
idea of there being a place where space/time doesn't exist.

A trivial point. A mere trifle. You're hurting my brain, Droog.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.

















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