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Sociology > Depression |
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"Rhiannon" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:38:48 PM |
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OT - Computer Question |
My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good. It's almost ten
years old and has all it's original parts. It has never been repaired or
had anything replaced. Only maintained by myself and with one very minor
repair to the original CPU fan which I did myself. Now it's on deaths door.
Intermittant breaks in power and failure of everything, the power pack
itself, the fan, the CMOS battery is shot, failure of the disk drives, my
internet connection comes and goes, the motherboard I assume as well, since
I'm getting system failures all over the place. Blue screen after blue
screen. I reinstalled the system files and it didn't help. This old girl
has had it. I cannot afford a new computer. So the question to all you
computer people is...is it worth it to start replacing parts in this thing
by myself to avoid labour costs, or is it a waste of money better spent
saving up for a new computer? Can I still get parts for a machine this old?
And if I take that road what do you think is the most logical place to
start? Which part should I replace first to get this going again? Or
should they all be replaced at the same time? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
And for those who notice if I disappear from ASD suddenly no need to worry
it will be computer related.
And for those of you with my phone number, feel free to call and check in.
Thanks in advance for your computer help. :)
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
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| User: "cal" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Computer Question |
27 Apr 2006 03:10:38 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good.
some local refurb machine prices (in cdn $):
1 - ibm pentium 3, 500 mhz, 128mb ram, 6.4gb hd, cdrom, floppy - $60
2 - ibm pentium 3, 677 mhz 128mb ram, 20gb hd, cdrom, floppy - $80
3 - ibm pentium 4, 1.6ghz, 256 mb ram, 20gb hd, cdrom, floppy, win-xp - $200
4 - ibm pentium 4, 2.4ghz, 512 mb ram, 40gb hd, cdrom, floppy, win-xp - $330
you can buy a 2-year parts/labour warranty for 15% of the purchase price per
year.
http://factorydirect.ca
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Computer Question |
27 Apr 2006 07:57:47 PM |
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"cal" <cal1360@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Kl84g.3900$fx.337733@news20.bellglobal.com...
My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good.
some local refurb machine prices (in cdn $):
1 - ibm pentium 3, 500 mhz, 128mb ram, 6.4gb hd, cdrom, floppy - $60
2 - ibm pentium 3, 677 mhz 128mb ram, 20gb hd, cdrom, floppy - $80
3 - ibm pentium 4, 1.6ghz, 256 mb ram, 20gb hd, cdrom, floppy, win-xp -
$200
4 - ibm pentium 4, 2.4ghz, 512 mb ram, 40gb hd, cdrom, floppy, win-xp -
$330
you can buy a 2-year parts/labour warranty for 15% of the purchase price
per
year.
http://factorydirect.ca
Thanks Cal. I'm going to have a look around.
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Rhi
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Computer Question |
27 Apr 2006 02:07:57 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:Kl84g.3900$fx.337733@news20.bellglobal.com...
My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good. It's almost
ten
years old and has all it's original parts. It has never been repaired or
had anything replaced. Only maintained by myself and with one very minor
repair to the original CPU fan which I did myself. Now it's on deaths
door.
Intermittant breaks in power and failure of everything, the power pack
itself, the fan, the CMOS battery is shot, failure of the disk drives, my
internet connection comes and goes, the motherboard I assume as well,
since
I'm getting system failures all over the place. Blue screen after blue
screen. I reinstalled the system files and it didn't help. This old girl
has had it. I cannot afford a new computer. So the question to all you
computer people is...is it worth it to start replacing parts in this thing
by myself to avoid labour costs, or is it a waste of money better spent
saving up for a new computer? Can I still get parts for a machine this
old?
And if I take that road what do you think is the most logical place to
start? Which part should I replace first to get this going again? Or
should they all be replaced at the same time? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
And for those who notice if I disappear from ASD suddenly no need to worry
it will be computer related.
And for those of you with my phone number, feel free to call and check in.
Thanks in advance for your computer help. :)
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
if you can , save for a new ,
or even a newer used ,
but don't go dumping new money into an old machine ,
once you start it will never end
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| User: "slunky" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Computer Question |
27 Apr 2006 02:10:27 PM |
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_/ % wrote \_
if you can , save for a new ,
or even a newer used ,
but don't go dumping new money into an old machine ,
once you start it will never end
If it's like the ten year old Pavilion I've got, the power supply is
shot and any new part is only going to irritate the power supply into
frying everything.
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-slunky
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| User: "%" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:19:12 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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_/ % wrote \_
if you can , save for a new ,
or even a newer used ,
but don't go dumping new money into an old machine ,
once you start it will never end
If it's like the ten year old Pavilion I've got, the power supply is
shot and any new part is only going to irritate the power supply into
frying everything.
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-slunky
and that's just for starters ,
go on line order a Dell ,
get exactly what you want ,
and payments aren't too bad
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Computer Question |
28 Apr 2006 12:46:35 AM |
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Rhiannon wrote:
My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good. It's almost ten
years old and has all it's original parts. It has never been repaired or
had anything replaced. Only maintained by myself and with one very minor
repair to the original CPU fan which I did myself. Now it's on deaths door.
Intermittant breaks in power and failure of everything, the power pack
itself, the fan, the CMOS battery is shot, failure of the disk drives, my
internet connection comes and goes, the motherboard I assume as well, since
I'm getting system failures all over the place. Blue screen after blue
screen. I reinstalled the system files and it didn't help. This old girl
has had it. I cannot afford a new computer. So the question to all you
computer people is...is it worth it to start replacing parts in this thing
by myself to avoid labour costs, or is it a waste of money better spent
saving up for a new computer? Can I still get parts for a machine this old?
And if I take that road what do you think is the most logical place to
start? Which part should I replace first to get this going again? Or
should they all be replaced at the same time? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
And for those who notice if I disappear from ASD suddenly no need to worry
it will be computer related.
And for those of you with my phone number, feel free to call and check in.
Thanks in advance for your computer help. :)
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
If you're willing to pay shipping (~$30?) I can send you something that
would be a really solid machine.
....No, it's not new...but certain stuff (like fans and certain
electrical components) have a life span. I've got literally, a...lot of
machines. I could refurb one for you all the way down to new fans all
around, a fresh coat of paint, probably more "oomph" than you had going
for you previously.
If you want to talk geeky specs, let me know. I do the same thing for
systems for high school kids going to college.
Last fall I even made a couple of bucks building NEW systems for
relatives of some of the youths - so building them new systems was kind
of a nice little bit of business to get.
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| User: "slunky" |
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28 Apr 2006 12:48:36 AM |
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_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
Last fall I even made a couple of bucks building NEW systems for
relatives of some of the youths - so building them new systems was kind
of a nice little bit of business to get.
Most of my buisness selling refurbished machines is to older college
students who are new to computers.
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-slunky
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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28 Apr 2006 12:55:25 AM |
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slunky wrote:
_/ Franz Bestuchev wrote \_
Last fall I even made a couple of bucks building NEW systems for
relatives of some of the youths - so building them new systems was kind
of a nice little bit of business to get.
Most of my buisness selling refurbished machines is to older college
students who are new to computers.
My "demographic" is kids who are going to be the first generation in
their family to go past high school.
Maybe one of them will get fantastically rich and credit all the word
processing they had to do for class and decide to send me millions for
making those essays possible.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Computer Question - Thanks |
28 Apr 2006 12:32:37 PM |
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This is too cool. You've all been so helpful. I am investigating all my
options before taking the next step. I didn't have a clue where to start
and your advice cleared that up for me. It is very much appreciated.
Thanks to you all.
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Rhi
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| User: "slunky" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:05:44 PM |
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What's the specific model Pavilion you have? I'll let you know if
there's anything worth salvaging from it. If you're having power
failures it's probably best to go for a complete upgrade now. I can help
you find a decent machine for less than $100 on eBay. Old technology is
my specialty.
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-slunky
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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27 Apr 2006 07:33:47 PM |
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"slunky" <slunky@globalzero.org> wrote in message
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What's the specific model Pavilion you have? I'll let you know if
there's anything worth salvaging from it. If you're having power
failures it's probably best to go for a complete upgrade now. I can help
you find a decent machine for less than $100 on eBay. Old technology is
my specialty.
--
-slunky
HP Pavilion model 8860 60 gig harddrive AMD Athlon Processor 1000 mhz 128 MB
Ram OS - Windows ME.
The CD burner doesn't work at all. The DVD and floppy drive come and go as
the system dictates depending on how bitchy she is that day. Internal modem
is working for faxing. External high speed modem is only a year old and was
fine until the system started failing so I assume the problem with my
internet connection is in the computer and not the modem and I'm getting
system and equipment failures every 15 minutes.
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Rhi
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| User: "slunky" |
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27 Apr 2006 06:57:34 PM |
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_/ Rhiannon wrote \_
HP Pavilion model 8860 60 gig harddrive AMD Athlon Processor 1000 mhz 128 MB
Ram OS - Windows ME.
Well it's not that old then! I would say just go for a refurbished
computer. It looks like the problem resides with the power supply, but a
replacement is almost $80. The offer is still there if you'd like me to
help you fond something online.
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-slunky
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| User: "gravity" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:28:54 PM |
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i've seen P3s on retrobox from $50 and up. but they don't have an operating
system. finding a machine with a good 98 or XP license is important.
i would go with Slunky's idea and buy an older machine.
if you have $277, Walmart has some Emachines with monitor. i've owned a
couple of Emachines, and other than a couple of minor hardware issues they
were good boxes.
if you buy an older machine some things to consider:
does it come with Windows 98 or ME or XP or 2000?
what is the shipping cost?
Gravity
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| User: "neoholistic" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:11:00 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
Rhiannon ha escrito:
My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good. It's almost ten
years old and has all it's original parts. It has never been repaired or
had anything replaced. Only maintained by myself and with one very minor
repair to the original CPU fan which I did myself. Now it's on deaths door.
Intermittant breaks in power and failure of everything, the power pack
itself, the fan, the CMOS battery is shot, failure of the disk drives, my
internet connection comes and goes, the motherboard I assume as well, since
I'm getting system failures all over the place. Blue screen after blue
screen. I reinstalled the system files and it didn't help. This old girl
has had it. I cannot afford a new computer. So the question to all you
computer people is...is it worth it to start replacing parts in this thing
by myself to avoid labour costs, or is it a waste of money better spent
saving up for a new computer? Can I still get parts for a machine this old?
And if I take that road what do you think is the most logical place to
start? Which part should I replace first to get this going again? Or
should they all be replaced at the same time? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
And for those who notice if I disappear from ASD suddenly no need to worry
it will be computer related.
And for those of you with my phone number, feel free to call and check in.
Thanks in advance for your computer help. :)
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
Get the power supply and the battery replaced. There should be still
spare parts,
and it will more than likely solve the problems.
You might think of replacing the hard disk, too - it's a mechanical
device, with
moving parts, so a 10 year-old unit is definitely 'risky'.
*If* the machine is still unstable (hangs) after changing the power
supply, then
it could be a motherboard/memory problem (memory chips can go bad, same
for old capacitors on the mainboard). You could get either replaced,
but depending
on price it might not make sense. In that case, think new machine.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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27 Apr 2006 07:45:50 PM |
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"neoholistic" <neoholistic@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes
Get the power supply and the battery replaced. There should be still
spare parts,
and it will more than likely solve the problems.
This is where I considered starting too. I figure since the power supply
feeds everything else it seemed the most logical, but wanted to double check
with you techno experts in case I was wrong.
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Rhi
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| User: "neoholistic" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:13:44 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
neoholistic ha escrito:
x-no-archive: yes
Rhiannon ha escrito:
My computer (HP Pavilion) is "thisclose" to dying for good. It's almost ten
years old and has all it's original parts. It has never been repaired or
had anything replaced. Only maintained by myself and with one very minor
repair to the original CPU fan which I did myself. Now it's on deaths door.
Intermittant breaks in power and failure of everything, the power pack
itself, the fan, the CMOS battery is shot, failure of the disk drives, my
internet connection comes and goes, the motherboard I assume as well, since
I'm getting system failures all over the place. Blue screen after blue
screen. I reinstalled the system files and it didn't help. This old girl
has had it. I cannot afford a new computer. So the question to all you
computer people is...is it worth it to start replacing parts in this thing
by myself to avoid labour costs, or is it a waste of money better spent
saving up for a new computer? Can I still get parts for a machine this old?
And if I take that road what do you think is the most logical place to
start? Which part should I replace first to get this going again? Or
should they all be replaced at the same time? Any advice would be greatly
appreciated.
And for those who notice if I disappear from ASD suddenly no need to worry
it will be computer related.
And for those of you with my phone number, feel free to call and check in.
Thanks in advance for your computer help. :)
--
Rhiannon
rhianon@sympatico.ca
Get the power supply and the battery replaced. There should be still
spare parts,
and it will more than likely solve the problems.
You might think of replacing the hard disk, too - it's a mechanical
device, with
moving parts, so a 10 year-old unit is definitely 'risky'.
*If* the machine is still unstable (hangs) after changing the power
supply, then
it could be a motherboard/memory problem (memory chips can go bad, same
for old capacitors on the mainboard). You could get either replaced,
but depending
on price it might not make sense. In that case, think new machine.
Or, you might save yourself the hassle, and get a recent second hand
machine
(say, one a couple years old or so). It might be cheaper than getting a
new power
supply from HP.
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| User: "slunky" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:15:03 PM |
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_/ neoholistic wrote \_
Or, you might save yourself the hassle, and get a recent second hand
machine
Exactly. My buisness right now is selling reconditioned machines I get.
You can get a pretty decent PIII for around $50.
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| User: "gravity" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:23:02 PM |
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i would get a used P3 or something similar. i bought my Celeron 2.4 ghz for
$270 with an AOL contract for a year. i have bought P3s for $150 or so.
you can find cheaper ones online, like $50 for a midgrade P3.
if it is truly 10 years old, that places its time at 1996. this means it's
running a Pentium Pro, a few dozen megs of RAM, Windows 95, and a few gig
hard drive. unless you have upgraded it.
i don't think it's worth the repair bills. you can always install the old
hard drive in the new machine and copy over your personal files.
what are the specs on the machine? Windows Key plus Pause gives some of
them.
i would also look into reinstalling the operating system. Windows 95 / 98 /
ME is very sluggish after a few years.
Gravity
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| User: "%" |
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27 Apr 2006 02:25:14 PM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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i would get a used P3 or something similar. i bought my Celeron 2.4 ghz
for
$270 with an AOL contract for a year. i have bought P3s for $150 or so.
you can find cheaper ones online, like $50 for a midgrade P3.
if it is truly 10 years old, that places its time at 1996. this means
it's
running a Pentium Pro, a few dozen megs of RAM, Windows 95, and a few gig
hard drive. unless you have upgraded it.
i don't think it's worth the repair bills. you can always install the old
hard drive in the new machine and copy over your personal files.
what are the specs on the machine? Windows Key plus Pause gives some of
them.
i would also look into reinstalling the operating system. Windows 95 / 98
/
ME is very sluggish after a few years.
Gravity
don't trust this advice
its possibly only made to hurt you
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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27 Apr 2006 08:06:53 PM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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i would get a used P3 or something similar. i bought my Celeron 2.4 ghz
for
$270 with an AOL contract for a year. i have bought P3s for $150 or so.
you can find cheaper ones online, like $50 for a midgrade P3.
if it is truly 10 years old, that places its time at 1996. this means
it's
running a Pentium Pro, a few dozen megs of RAM, Windows 95, and a few gig
hard drive. unless you have upgraded it.
i don't think it's worth the repair bills. you can always install the old
hard drive in the new machine and copy over your personal files.
what are the specs on the machine? Windows Key plus Pause gives some of
them.
i would also look into reinstalling the operating system. Windows 95 / 98
/
ME is very sluggish after a few years.
Gravity
From all the advice so far it seems same or a little newer used is my best
bet. If I can do that for the same amount of money it will cost me to buy
parts I may as well. In the meantime I just hope this thing doesn't blow up
without warning and catch fire.
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Rhi
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| User: "cal" |
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27 Apr 2006 07:35:55 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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From all the advice so far it seems same or a little newer used is my best
bet. If I can do that for the same amount of money it will cost me to buy
parts I may as well. In the meantime I just hope this thing doesn't blow
up without warning and catch fire.
make sure all your important stuff is safely backed up someplace. if you
can't use the CD burner, that could be an issue.
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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27 Apr 2006 07:53:12 PM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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i would get a used P3 or something similar. i bought my Celeron 2.4 ghz
for
$270 with an AOL contract for a year. i have bought P3s for $150 or so.
you can find cheaper ones online, like $50 for a midgrade P3.
if it is truly 10 years old, that places its time at 1996. this means
it's
running a Pentium Pro, a few dozen megs of RAM, Windows 95, and a few gig
hard drive. unless you have upgraded it.
i don't think it's worth the repair bills. you can always install the old
hard drive in the new machine and copy over your personal files.
what are the specs on the machine? Windows Key plus Pause gives some of
them.
i would also look into reinstalling the operating system. Windows 95 / 98
/
ME is very sluggish after a few years.
Gravity
If I start fiddling around with this thing it is definitely going to be a do
it yourself project. No way I can afford a repair bill where the labour
costs more than parts. For the specs see my response to Slunky. As for the
operating system I have reformatted and reinstalled everything a few times
over the years with success. This is the first time that reinstalling
didn't help so at this point I think it's just hardware.
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Rhi
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| User: "%" |
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27 Apr 2006 07:12:48 PM |
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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i would get a used P3 or something similar. i bought my Celeron 2.4 ghz
for
$270 with an AOL contract for a year. i have bought P3s for $150 or so.
you can find cheaper ones online, like $50 for a midgrade P3.
if it is truly 10 years old, that places its time at 1996. this means
it's
running a Pentium Pro, a few dozen megs of RAM, Windows 95, and a few
gig
hard drive. unless you have upgraded it.
i don't think it's worth the repair bills. you can always install the
old
hard drive in the new machine and copy over your personal files.
what are the specs on the machine? Windows Key plus Pause gives some of
them.
i would also look into reinstalling the operating system. Windows 95 /
98
/
ME is very sluggish after a few years.
Gravity
If I start fiddling around with this thing it is definitely going to be a
do
it yourself project. No way I can afford a repair bill where the labour
costs more than parts. For the specs see my response to Slunky. As for
the
operating system I have reformatted and reinstalled everything a few times
over the years with success. This is the first time that reinstalling
didn't help so at this point I think it's just hardware.
--
Rhi
you made Hazel crash her car
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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28 Apr 2006 12:08:15 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"Rhiannon" <rhianon@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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i would get a used P3 or something similar. i bought my Celeron 2.4
ghz
for
$270 with an AOL contract for a year. i have bought P3s for $150 or
so.
you can find cheaper ones online, like $50 for a midgrade P3.
if it is truly 10 years old, that places its time at 1996. this means
it's
running a Pentium Pro, a few dozen megs of RAM, Windows 95, and a few
gig
hard drive. unless you have upgraded it.
i don't think it's worth the repair bills. you can always install the
old
hard drive in the new machine and copy over your personal files.
what are the specs on the machine? Windows Key plus Pause gives some
of
them.
i would also look into reinstalling the operating system. Windows 95
/
98
/
ME is very sluggish after a few years.
Gravity
If I start fiddling around with this thing it is definitely going to be
a
do
it yourself project. No way I can afford a repair bill where the labour
costs more than parts. For the specs see my response to Slunky. As for
the
operating system I have reformatted and reinstalled everything a few
times
over the years with success. This is the first time that reinstalling
didn't help so at this point I think it's just hardware.
--
Rhi
you made Hazel crash her car
Laugh! Probably with the way my luck runs. I don't remember doing it, but
I wouldn't be surprised to find myself connected in some way.
--
Rhi
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