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28 Oct 2003 03:46:35 PM |
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OT - It does get easier... Linux |
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why. Perhaps
it is merely a lil familiarity.
Well, I'm off to my therapy group. Life skills :s ... boring as hell...
but apparently I'm supposed to be learning something. All basedupon the
Marsha Linehan stuffs.
Stevhan
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
28 Oct 2003 08:21:11 PM |
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"stevhan hartwell" <stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why. Perhaps
it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need an stable
internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
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| User: "Stevhan Hartwell" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
28 Oct 2003 09:28:41 PM |
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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:bnn86q$130ags$1@ID-140630.news.uni-berlin.de:
"stevhan hartwell" <stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:%sBnb.207656$9l5.126774@pd7tw2no...
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need an
stable internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux) and now
Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and Mandrake. REd
Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty installing with
mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Stevhan
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
28 Oct 2003 11:54:13 PM |
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"Stevhan Hartwell" <stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns9422C6246B7C8Stevhan@24.69.255.211...
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:bnn86q$130ags$1@ID-140630.news.uni-berlin.de:
"stevhan hartwell" <stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:%sBnb.207656$9l5.126774@pd7tw2no...
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need an
stable internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux) and
now
Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and Mandrake. REd
Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty installing with
mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Mandrake installs very easily. I tried Debian before, but for a newbie in
Linux Mandrake is better. At least it is for me.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
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| User: "nobody" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
29 Oct 2003 08:11:32 AM |
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Teilhard Knight wrote:
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need an
stable internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux) and
now
Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and Mandrake. REd
Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty installing with
mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Mandrake installs very easily. I tried Debian before, but for a newbie in
Linux Mandrake is better. At least it is for me.
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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29 Oct 2003 08:19:59 AM |
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"nobody" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:1067436606.381299@sj-nntpcache-5...
Teilhard Knight wrote:
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need an
stable internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux) and
now
Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and Mandrake.
REd
Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty installing
with
mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Mandrake installs very easily. I tried Debian before, but for a newbie
in
Linux Mandrake is better. At least it is for me.
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
I also have FreeBSD in one machine. I find Mandrake a lot easier for someone
who emigrates from Windows to UNIX.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
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| User: "Stevhan Hartwell" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
29 Oct 2003 08:57:30 AM |
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"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:bnoiah$uip3i$1@ID-140630.news.uni-berlin.de:
"nobody" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:1067436606.381299@sj-nntpcache-5...
Teilhard Knight wrote:
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational
after 2 mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need
an stable internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux)
and
now
Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and
Mandrake.
REd
Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty
installing
with
mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Mandrake installs very easily. I tried Debian before, but for a
newbie
in
Linux Mandrake is better. At least it is for me.
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
I also have FreeBSD in one machine. I find Mandrake a lot easier for
someone who emigrates from Windows to UNIX.
A friend of mine uses FreeBSD for a firewall machine. He switched over to
Mandrake too after finding it too frustrating. He got it running, but
prefered the ease of Mandrake.
S
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| User: "Teilhard Knight" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
29 Oct 2003 06:53:56 PM |
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"Stevhan Hartwell" <stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns942346C9D2BE9Stevhan@24.69.255.211...
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
news:bnoiah$uip3i$1@ID-140630.news.uni-berlin.de:
"nobody" <nobody@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:1067436606.381299@sj-nntpcache-5...
Teilhard Knight wrote:
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational
after 2 mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
Have you tried Mandrake too? I've never tried Red Hat. I just need
an stable internet connection to start going on Mandrake 9.2.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux)
and
now
Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and
Mandrake.
REd
Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty
installing
with
mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Mandrake installs very easily. I tried Debian before, but for a
newbie
in
Linux Mandrake is better. At least it is for me.
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
FreeBSD!
I also have FreeBSD in one machine. I find Mandrake a lot easier for
someone who emigrates from Windows to UNIX.
A friend of mine uses FreeBSD for a firewall machine. He switched over to
Mandrake too after finding it too frustrating. He got it running, but
prefered the ease of Mandrake.
I installed Mandrake first, and then FreeBSD. I got help configuring several
thing and I even compiled my kernel. In my opinion Mandrake is a lot easier,
as you say.
--
Teilhard Knight
The Extraterrestrial
Change "privacy" for "softhome" if you want to intrude my inbox
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| User: "Stevhan Hartwell" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
30 Oct 2003 07:45:31 AM |
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I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational
after 2 mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why.
Perhaps it is merely a lil familiarity.
I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel
Linux) and now Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and
Mandrake.
Red Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty
installing with mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
Update...
Okay, I got Red Hat's update manager to work. And promptly lost my ability
to go online with MSN clone, thoughts? Obviously a setting changed within
port somewhere. But how am I to tell where or what's changed?
Stevhan
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
31 Oct 2003 11:01:37 AM |
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In alt.support.depression on Thursday 30 Oct 2003 1:45 pm, Stevhan Hartwell
<stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote:
snip
Update...
Okay, I got Red Hat's update manager to work. And promptly lost my ability
to go online with MSN clone, thoughts? Obviously a setting changed within
port somewhere. But how am I to tell where or what's changed?
Stevhan
Check the Red Hat groups? You'll need to know which 'MSN clone' you are
using. I wouldn't have thought an update would change any communications
settings.
I'm using 'guarddog' to manage my 'firewall' settings - it feels fairly
similar to the firewall programs I've used in Windows.
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-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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| User: "nobody" |
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| Title: Re: OT - It does get easier... Linux |
29 Oct 2003 10:44:15 AM |
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Stevhan Hartwell wrote:
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
I also have FreeBSD in one machine. I find Mandrake a lot easier for
someone who emigrates from Windows to UNIX.
A friend of mine uses FreeBSD for a firewall machine. He switched over to
Mandrake too after finding it too frustrating. He got it running, but
prefered the ease of Mandrake.
FreeBSD is much more cohesive and organized. The problem with
ease-of-use Linux distributions is the plethora of little admin tools
that add nothing but clutter and hide the simple stuff that any *NIX
admin should know by heart. All of these OSes are hobbyist-oriented,
and all of them require a level of skill from the user. Every effort to
avoid the underworkings is a hindrance.
my $0.02
If y'all have any *NIX questions feel free to ask me.
Steve
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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29 Oct 2003 05:47:37 PM |
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In alt.support.depression on Wednesday 29 Oct 2003 4:44 pm, nobody
<nobody@nobody.com> wrote:
Stevhan Hartwell wrote:
"Teilhard Knight" <teilhk@privacy.net> wrote in
I also have FreeBSD in one machine. I find Mandrake a lot easier for
someone who emigrates from Windows to UNIX.
A friend of mine uses FreeBSD for a firewall machine. He switched over to
Mandrake too after finding it too frustrating. He got it running, but
prefered the ease of Mandrake.
FreeBSD is much more cohesive and organized. The problem with
ease-of-use Linux distributions is the plethora of little admin tools
that add nothing but clutter and hide the simple stuff that any *NIX
admin should know by heart. All of these OSes are hobbyist-oriented,
and all of them require a level of skill from the user. Every effort to
avoid the underworkings is a hindrance.
my $0.02
If y'all have any *NIX questions feel free to ask me.
Steve
The gussied-up GUIs with the big Linux distros do make it a lot easier to
migrate from Windows; the underlying admin tools are still there, and can
be learned at leisure while most routine things and 'real work' can be
managed well enough using the 'friendly' utilities provided. It takes a
fair bit of time to become the sort of Unix administrator who can remember
hundreds of command-line routines and set up a whole network without
looking anything up or using a graphical interface. Most of us probably
never will, nor do we need to, as long as the tools we do need can be used
in a way that makes sense to us.
The GNU/Linux and *BSD systems are moving out of the hobbyists' and experts'
domain, and into homes and offices, so I think the purists will have to
learn to tolerate our point-and-clicky ways ;))
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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29 Oct 2003 05:30:36 PM |
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In alt.support.depression on Wednesday 29 Oct 2003 3:28 am, Stevhan Hartwell
<stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca> wrote:
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I've tried Mandrake 9.1, Phat Linux, Xandros (formerly Corel Linux) and
now Red Hat 9. I'm not sure which I prefer between Red Hat and Mandrake.
REd Hat isn't accepting the updates. But I had more difficulty installing
with mandrake (or was that familiarity of use?).
I think installation depends on how easily the distro recognises your
hardware; I suppose no distro could cater for all possible permutations, so
it's down to pot luck.
Red Hat and Mandrake both installed easily on my cheap 'generic' desk-top,
but I couldn't get Red Hat's update system to work - I suspect that my not
having an always-on broadband connection had something to do with that,
along with me not knowing what to do to make the updates download at my
command. Mandrake's update system worked like a dream (albeit slowly) and
has continued to work well. Mandrake's default KDE interface also felt
'comfortable' straight out of the box, whereas I felt Red Hat's Gnome was a
little too 'different'.
Those first impressions can be so important ;)) (I'm now happily using Xfce
3.8.16, so I'm obviously not a lost cause when it comes to alternative
interfaces).
Welcome to Penguin land :))
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-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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28 Oct 2003 04:40:13 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 21:46:35 GMT, stevhan hartwell <stevhanhartwell@shaw.ca>
wrote:
I just installed Red Hat 9 this morn. I got AMSN operational after 2
mins... No difficulties!!! Wooo Hooo
Red Hat seems easier than Mandrake, though I have no idea why. Perhaps
it is merely a lil familiarity.
SuSe 9 is supposed to be a doddle. I'll let you know next week.
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