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"Brianversion" |
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15 Dec 2006 09:41:20 PM |
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(ot) audio technical queery |
This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week. Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers? It's like 100 watt per channel. Using my
26 year old Sony speakers, big 3-ways. I figure the radio is digital
in it. I don't listen to the radio. But I wonder about amplification.
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
I tested the loudness, playing 'Yes', 'Fragile' CD. I rarely listen to
loud music, but it was a rush. Can only stand it for 1 song. And 1
'Green Day' song. Now I have it at a low volume, playing CDs. Putting
on 'Judy Garland at Carnegie Hall' now. She smokes.
brian
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| User: "gravity" |
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18 Dec 2006 04:14:20 AM |
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"Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wrote in message
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This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week.
Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers?
the old Sony is almost certainly linear (class AB).
home theatre Sonys are likely digitally-controlled switching amps (similar
to class D). it's possible to digitize all analog inputs and keep the
signal digital all the way to the switching amp. i'd have to see the
schematic.
you can't generalize because the same manufacturer often makes both mid-fi
and high-end equipment.
It's like 100 watt per channel.
many of the modern amps are around 100 watts per channel. i'm not sure how
many can actually run 100 watts RMS (sustained) into 6 channels at once.
speaker efficiency matters too. 100 watts into an 96 dB speaker is like 400
watts into a 90 dB.
Using my
26 year old Sony speakers, big 3-ways. I figure the radio is digital
in it.
the radio uses digital tuning. i doubt the signal path is digital, although
some shortwave radios digitize early on, and the "tuning" is done via
software.
I don't listen to the radio. But I wonder about amplification.
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
analog CD input is usually equivalent to tape and aux input. the phono
input is very different, because of the EQ.
G.
I tested the loudness, playing 'Yes', 'Fragile' CD. I rarely listen to
loud music, but it was a rush. Can only stand it for 1 song. And 1
'Green Day' song. Now I have it at a low volume, playing CDs. Putting
on 'Judy Garland at Carnegie Hall' now. She smokes.
brian
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| User: "David" |
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18 Dec 2006 05:16:26 AM |
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are you off your meds?
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: (ot) audio technical queery |
18 Dec 2006 11:55:19 AM |
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"David" <david-d1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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are you off your meds?
Laugh! Which one?
--
Rhi
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| User: "gravity" |
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18 Dec 2006 07:18:49 AM |
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"David" <david-d1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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are you off your meds?
do you have a job?
G.
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| User: "%" |
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18 Dec 2006 07:43:38 AM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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"David" <david-d1@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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are you off your meds?
do you have a job?
G.
if you answered yes and then no ,
to these two question ,
you could have a career in full contact newsgrouping
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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18 Dec 2006 11:31:17 AM |
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gravity wrote:
"Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1166240480.141496.308740@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week.
Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers?
the old Sony is almost certainly linear (class AB).
home theatre Sonys are likely digitally-controlled switching amps (similar
to class D). it's possible to digitize all analog inputs and keep the
signal digital all the way to the switching amp. i'd have to see the
schematic.
you can't generalize because the same manufacturer often makes both mid-fi
and high-end equipment.
It's like 100 watt per channel.
many of the modern amps are around 100 watts per channel. i'm not sure how
many can actually run 100 watts RMS (sustained) into 6 channels at once.
speaker efficiency matters too. 100 watts into an 96 dB speaker is like 400
watts into a 90 dB.
Using my
26 year old Sony speakers, big 3-ways. I figure the radio is digital
in it.
the radio uses digital tuning. i doubt the signal path is digital, although
some shortwave radios digitize early on, and the "tuning" is done via
software.
I don't listen to the radio. But I wonder about amplification.
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
analog CD input is usually equivalent to tape and aux input. the phono
input is very different, because of the EQ.
G.
I tested the loudness, playing 'Yes', 'Fragile' CD. I rarely listen to
loud music, but it was a rush. Can only stand it for 1 song. And 1
'Green Day' song. Now I have it at a low volume, playing CDs. Putting
on 'Judy Garland at Carnegie Hall' now. She smokes.
brian
<<<analog CD input is usually equivalent to tape and aux input.>>>
good, thanks gravity. The digital stuff I don't really understand.
The speakers seem to hold up well to the sound.I'm just glad it all
seems to sound ripping. Next song will be 'Highway Star' by 'Deep
Purple'.
Brian
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| User: "gravity" |
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18 Dec 2006 03:48:34 AM |
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I tested the loudness, playing 'Yes', 'Fragile' CD. I rarely listen to
loud music, but it was a rush.
i'd be careful with older speakers. the surrounds on the woofer have age.
i have some old McIntosh speakers that have worked well, other than melting
a wire. fortunately it melted on the outside of the speaker, so i didn't
have to take the driver apart.
G.
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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16 Dec 2006 12:52:22 PM |
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On 15 Dec 2006 19:41:20 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
Under no circumstances plug anything apart from a turntable into a record
player input.
Almost all audio separates with the exception of turntables have a line out
voltage of two volts. When you connect a CD player to a CD (or Aux or DVD or
MD) input on the back of the amplifier/receiver, the amplifier takes the line
in signal at 2v and amplifies it accordingly. Turntables have a line-out
output of point-2 volts (0.2), or 10% that of a CD/MD/DVD/DAT output. Before
your amplifier/receiver can amplify the signal from a turntable, it has to
first amplify the turntable output signal by 10x, bringing the signal up
from 0.2 volts to line level which is 2.0v. It does this using the pre-amp
line board that is fitted inside of your amplifier/receiver. If you connect
something like a CD player into a turntable input, the preamp stage will
magnify the line signal from two volts to twenty volts. When you then select
turntable on the selector switch at the front of your amplifier/receiver, the
volume will be ten times louder than that from all the other components,
which in turn will blow up your loudspeakers, and possibly the power supply
and preamp board within the amplifier/receiver.
This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week. Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers?
With a digital amplifier, the audio signal remains in digital form throughout
the signal chain, right from a digital input (such as optical/toslink) from
your CD player, right through to the speakers. The digital signal is then
converted back to analogue using a digital to audio converted (DAC) which is
situated directly on the speaker terminals. However, if your amplifier or
receiver only has analogue inputs (lacks a digital input), then your
amplifier/receiver is actually a hybrid and not pure digital.
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: (ot) audio technical queery |
19 Dec 2006 05:15:34 PM |
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"áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:f8d8o2dm21r8vq1r7hbvvrcqd7o8bt4hbq@4ax.com...
On 15 Dec 2006 19:41:20 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com>
wrote:
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
Under no circumstances plug anything apart from a turntable into a record
player input.
Almost all audio separates with the exception of turntables have a line
out
voltage of two volts. When you connect a CD player to a CD (or Aux or DVD
or
MD) input on the back of the amplifier/receiver, the amplifier takes the
line
in signal at 2v and amplifies it accordingly. Turntables have a line-out
output of point-2 volts (0.2), or 10% that of a CD/MD/DVD/DAT output.
Before
your amplifier/receiver can amplify the signal from a turntable, it has to
first amplify the turntable output signal by 10x, bringing the signal up
from 0.2 volts to line level which is 2.0v. It does this using the pre-amp
line board that is fitted inside of your amplifier/receiver. If you
connect
something like a CD player into a turntable input, the preamp stage will
magnify the line signal from two volts to twenty volts.
preamps don't usually have 20 volt rails.
When you then select
turntable on the selector switch at the front of your amplifier/receiver,
the
volume will be ten times louder
acoustic intensity (cv), acoustic power(cv^2), and phons are different.
than that from all the other components,
which in turn will blow up your loudspeakers, and possibly the power
supply
and preamp board within the amplifier/receiver.
i'd like to see someone run a CD player into a transformer / preamp for a
moving coil cartridge.
This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week. Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers?
With a digital amplifier, the audio signal remains in digital form
throughout
the signal chain, right from a digital input (such as optical/toslink)
from
your CD player, right through to the speakers. The digital signal is then
converted back to analogue using a digital to audio converted (DAC) which
is
situated directly on the speaker terminals. However, if your amplifier or
receiver only has analogue inputs (lacks a digital input), then your
amplifier/receiver is actually a hybrid and not pure digital.
input of a digital amp: 10101010
output of a digital amp: 10101010
i fail to see what's being amplified.
G.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: (ot) audio technical queery |
19 Dec 2006 05:17:00 PM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
news:458872ab$0$97235$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net...
"áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:f8d8o2dm21r8vq1r7hbvvrcqd7o8bt4hbq@4ax.com...
On 15 Dec 2006 19:41:20 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com>
wrote:
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
Under no circumstances plug anything apart from a turntable into a
record
player input.
Almost all audio separates with the exception of turntables have a line
out
voltage of two volts. When you connect a CD player to a CD (or Aux or
DVD
or
MD) input on the back of the amplifier/receiver, the amplifier takes the
line
in signal at 2v and amplifies it accordingly. Turntables have a line-out
output of point-2 volts (0.2), or 10% that of a CD/MD/DVD/DAT output.
Before
your amplifier/receiver can amplify the signal from a turntable, it has
to
first amplify the turntable output signal by 10x, bringing the signal
up
from 0.2 volts to line level which is 2.0v. It does this using the
pre-amp
line board that is fitted inside of your amplifier/receiver. If you
connect
something like a CD player into a turntable input, the preamp stage will
magnify the line signal from two volts to twenty volts.
preamps don't usually have 20 volt rails.
When you then select
turntable on the selector switch at the front of your
amplifier/receiver,
the
volume will be ten times louder
acoustic intensity (cv), acoustic power(cv^2), and phons are different.
than that from all the other components,
which in turn will blow up your loudspeakers, and possibly the power
supply
and preamp board within the amplifier/receiver.
i'd like to see someone run a CD player into a transformer / preamp for a
moving coil cartridge.
This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week. Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers?
With a digital amplifier, the audio signal remains in digital form
throughout
the signal chain, right from a digital input (such as optical/toslink)
from
your CD player, right through to the speakers. The digital signal is
then
converted back to analogue using a digital to audio converted (DAC)
which
is
situated directly on the speaker terminals. However, if your amplifier
or
receiver only has analogue inputs (lacks a digital input), then your
amplifier/receiver is actually a hybrid and not pure digital.
input of a digital amp: 10101010
output of a digital amp: 10101010
i fail to see what's being amplified.
G.
i'm not surprised
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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19 Dec 2006 06:18:07 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:15:34 -0600, "gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote:
preamps don't usually have 20 volt rails.
No they don't, usually they're 0.2 in and 2.0v out, there was a decimal point
inbetween.
acoustic intensity (cv), acoustic power(cv^2), and phons are different.
I was answering a simple question about an amplifier, not using this as an
opportunity to try and impress the world with my knowledge of acoustics. But
for what it's worth, you've impressed me. Where do I send the first prize?
input of a digital amp: 10101010
output of a digital amp: 10101010
i fail to see what's being amplified.
Hmmm yes I see, this obviously answers his question in a way that's easy to
understand.
Did you Google anything else interesting, like a personality?
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| User: "gravity" |
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19 Dec 2006 06:55:19 PM |
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"áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Did you Google anything else interesting, like a personality?
I googled two personalities and now i have MPD.
happy holidays to you.
g.
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| User: "%" |
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19 Dec 2006 06:57:41 PM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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"áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:agvgo2ttf2fa4e3mhui90ag8ov3mni5j5u@4ax.com...
Did you Google anything else interesting, like a personality?
I googled two personalities and now i have MPD.
happy holidays to you.
g.
A HAW HAW HAW HAW , at what "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" said
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| User: "gravity" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:52:35 PM |
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"áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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I was answering a simple question about an amplifier, not using this as an
opportunity to try and impress the world with my knowledge of acoustics.
But
for what it's worth, you've impressed me. Where do I send the first prize?
you can give the prize to my collaborators, Larry Page and Sergey Brin.
i apologize if you found my post offensive or extraneous.
g.
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:59:22 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 20:52:35 -0600, "gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote:
i apologize if you found my post offensive or extraneous.
I apologise in turn for being catty.
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| User: "%" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:53:27 PM |
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i'm a yankee doodle dandy
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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18 Dec 2006 11:23:29 AM |
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=E1=F1ti-=EBV=EArYtH=EF=F1G wrote:
On 15 Dec 2006 19:41:20 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wro=
te:
My old tuner didn't have a CD input, and had a phono input for record
players.
Under no circumstances plug anything apart from a turntable into a record
player input.
Almost all audio separates with the exception of turntables have a line o=
ut
voltage of two volts. When you connect a CD player to a CD (or Aux or DVD=
or
MD) input on the back of the amplifier/receiver, the amplifier takes the =
line
in signal at 2v and amplifies it accordingly. Turntables have a line-out
output of point-2 volts (0.2), or 10% that of a CD/MD/DVD/DAT output. Bef=
ore
your amplifier/receiver can amplify the signal from a turntable, it has to
first amplify the turntable output signal by 10x, bringing the signal up
from 0.2 volts to line level which is 2.0v. It does this using the pre-amp
line board that is fitted inside of your amplifier/receiver. If you conne=
ct
something like a CD player into a turntable input, the preamp stage will
magnify the line signal from two volts to twenty volts. When you then sel=
ect
turntable on the selector switch at the front of your amplifier/receiver,=
the
volume will be ten times louder than that from all the other components,
which in turn will blow up your loudspeakers, and possibly the power supp=
ly
and preamp board within the amplifier/receiver.
This new receiver, not expensive, but a Sony, like it's broken 26 year
old counterpart which died this week. Is the amplification system
digital in 2006 receivers?
With a digital amplifier, the audio signal remains in digital form throug=
hout
the signal chain, right from a digital input (such as optical/toslink) f=
rom
your CD player, right through to the speakers. The digital signal is then
converted back to analogue using a digital to audio converted (DAC) which=
is
situated directly on the speaker terminals. However, if your amplifier or
receiver only has analogue inputs (lacks a digital input), then your
amplifier/receiver is actually a hybrid and not pure digital.
<<<Under no circumstances plug anything apart from a turntable into a
record
player input. >>>
Yeah, I was just indicating how old the other one was, that blew. I
don't have a turntable anymore. Was weird, I bought the reciever in
1980. In about 1993, it blew. Brought it to a shop, the guy had th
exact model on the 'fixxed, but no one claimed it' shelf, so I got a
relatively new 1980 , same model. So a total of 26 years with the same
model tuner, with a phono input.
Are all the inputs on this new one 'line level inputs? They say you
can hook a tape recorder to the video ins and outs, and it also has
tape/minidisc inputs and a CD input. I run a 16 track digital recorder
through any line level input (on the old one it was 'Aux") I tried the
new one with the minidisc/tape input and the cd input, and they bothe
seem to work the same.
Thanks for answerring (I think you are friends with Nina...say hi to
her for me.)
Brian
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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18 Dec 2006 09:42:33 PM |
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On 18 Dec 2006 09:23:29 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
Are all the inputs on this new one 'line level inputs?
All inputs are line level (2v) with the exception of turntable and
microphone. If your amplifier has a TT or Mic input on it, DON'T connect
anything to it except for what it says.
They say you
can hook a tape recorder to the video ins and outs, and it also has
tape/minidisc inputs and a CD input. I run a 16 track digital recorder
through any line level input (on the old one it was 'Aux") I tried the
new one with the minidisc/tape input and the cd input, and they bothe
seem to work the same.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties, I used to build amplifiers, as
well as design and set up high end audio systems and professional A/V
systems. I'd often use the DAT, MD, Tape and other inputs to connect various
other components to (such as a CD to tape in, a laserdisc to MD in etc) .
As everything with the exception of TT and Mic are set at line level, you can
plug any hifi separate (CD, DAT, MD, DVD, cassette tape, reel-to-reel, games
console etc) into any input as long as you don't plug any of the above into
the turntable or microphone socket (if fitted).
Thanks for answerring (I think you are friends with Nina...say hi to
her for me.)
I just did, she's in bed next to me (we got married :)
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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19 Dec 2006 06:48:39 PM |
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=E1=F1ti-=EBV=EArYtH=EF=F1G wrote:
On 18 Dec 2006 09:23:29 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wro=
te:
Are all the inputs on this new one 'line level inputs?
All inputs are line level (2v) with the exception of turntable and
microphone. If your amplifier has a TT or Mic input on it, DON'T connect
anything to it except for what it says.
OK
They say you
can hook a tape recorder to the video ins and outs, and it also has
tape/minidisc inputs and a CD input. I run a 16 track digital recorder
through any line level input (on the old one it was 'Aux") I tried the
new one with the minidisc/tape input and the cd input, and they bothe
seem to work the same.
Back in the late eighties and early nineties, I used to build amplifiers,=
as
well as design and set up high end audio systems and professional A/V
systems.
I always envied/was mystified by/ the people who "got it" when it came
to audio. I got a 4 track portastudio 25 years ago (records 4 tracks
on one side of a high end Maxell cassette, giving you 22 minutes. For
overdubbing musicians.) The manuals first ten pages explained Bell
Labs 'invention'(?) of sound over wires.. I didn't get it. So now I
hate reading the manuals. There are functions on this 16 track digital
machine that I haven't attempted, editing, pitchchange, 'slaving'
(their word) a synth to the 'beat' of the recorder...but I play by ear,
so it works out. I would love to hire a guy to teach me the machine.
I'd often use the DAT, MD, Tape and other inputs to connect various
other components to (such as a CD to tape in, a laserdisc to MD in etc) .
As everything with the exception of TT and Mic are set at line level, you=
can
plug any hifi separate (CD, DAT, MD, DVD, cassette tape, reel-to-reel, ga=
mes
console etc) into any input as long as you don't plug any of the above in=
to
the turntable or microphone socket (if fitted).
Got it. Line levels all.
Yeah, I once plugged a cd player into the phono RCA in the old tuner.
Thought I scratched some brain cells that night.
Thanks for answerring (I think you are friends with Nina...say hi to
her for me.)
I just did, she's in bed next to me (we got married :)
Congratulations, she didn't like being away from you. She used to
spend summers in a part of the city I grew up in, though we've never
met. Best wishes. Buy a friendly dog and a couple of cats.
Brian
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| User: "gravity" |
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19 Dec 2006 07:26:14 PM |
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The manuals first ten pages explained Bell
Labs 'invention'(?) of sound over wires..
what do those studio engineers do? it's so confusing. i see them slide
these little sliders on a big board. sometimes they use a Protoolz thing on
a computer. how do you know when to push the EQ up instead of down? it
must be very difficult to be an engineer.
g.
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| User: "%" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:29:59 PM |
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"gravity" <gravity@example.net> wrote in message
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The manuals first ten pages explained Bell
Labs 'invention'(?) of sound over wires..
what do those studio engineers do? it's so confusing. i see them slide
these little sliders on a big board. sometimes they use a Protoolz thing
on
a computer. how do you know when to push the EQ up instead of down? it
must be very difficult to be an engineer.
g.
they all laugh at your photo
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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19 Dec 2006 07:37:48 PM |
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gravity wrote:
The manuals first ten pages explained Bell
Labs 'invention'(?) of sound over wires..
what do those studio engineers do? it's so confusing. i see them slide
these little sliders on a big board. sometimes they use a Protoolz thing on
a computer. how do you know when to push the EQ up instead of down? it
must be very difficult to be an engineer.
A man I know who has had hit records used to change all the settings on
'the board' after he and his partner were finished in a big studio each
night. People would want to copy their sound by stealing the settings.
The faders are just for volume, the trumpet solo gets pushed a little
higher. The EQs are set before hand, on those little 4 knobs above the
faders (on analog old studio boards like you are talking about.)
Actually, most performance in the studio is recorded' flat' (no
effects). The headphone feed (monitor bus) can be given reverb and
such, so the singer hears a full voice. But the recorded signal is
flat, so a producer and his engineer can add the effects afterward in
the mixdown stage. Pro tools is a program which uses your PC as a
recording studio, with similar capabilities to the old way. Most stuff
is recorded digitally now, like with the machine I have. I could use
this computer to get similar results, but the machine is easier than
pro tools, or cubase, or the other PC programs. Plus, a PC is loud,
gotta have 'quiet on the set, please'. (i think they isolate PCs behind
walls to do it properly. Lotta laptop recording too.)
brian
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| User: "slunky" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:05:34 PM |
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I record all my stuff using Cakewalk Sonar at home on my desktop PC. I
have two sound cards and neither can record my bass properly, so I have
to synthesize it with another program.
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:12:30 PM |
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slunky wrote:
I record all my stuff using Cakewalk Sonar at home on my desktop PC. I
have two sound cards and neither can record my bass properly, so I have
to synthesize it with another program.
Yeah, Cakewalk....I didn't know you were a musician. What's your
instrument of choice?
brian
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| User: "slunky" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:33:40 PM |
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_/ Brianversion wrote \_
Yeah, Cakewalk....I didn't know you were a musician.
Yea, I am. I don't talk about it much because I haven't been doing much
of it lately. I was in a band, did some recording sessions, and
everything.
What's your instrument of choice?
I really like the bass. I like to just sit back and groove on it. I
pawned my bass though, so now I mostly play guitar and harmonica, but
like I said, I haven't really been up to it lately.
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:52:35 PM |
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slunky wrote:
_/ Brianversion wrote \_
Yeah, Cakewalk....I didn't know you were a musician.
Yea, I am. I don't talk about it much because I haven't been doing much
of it lately. I was in a band, did some recording sessions, and
everything.
What's your instrument of choice?
I really like the bass. I like to just sit back and groove on it. I
pawned my bass though, so now I mostly play guitar and harmonica, but
like I said, I haven't really been up to it lately.
Wish we lived closer, I need a bass player, you could use mine. I
almost pawned my old tele many times, over 36 years. I picked up
harmonica 12 years ago, after seeing Neil one night on SNL. Got a
couple of neck thingees, and all the keys.
I play bass, but I only learn the song, I am no real bass player.
What do you use for percussion? I had an old yamaha digital when they
first came out(actually used a Mattel Synsonics, not playing the pads,
using the auto buttons over a back beat in the 80's) But the Yamaha
was too non-improvising, had to program each songs drums.. So I gave
up percussion for years, then discovered these keyboards, with intros,
fills, variations, endings.
But this has been a non-musical year. The stuff intimidates me sitting
here getting dusty. I feared I was losing my muse, or getting old and
tiring of it all. But next year, I'll be back, I hope. You'll be back
too, I bet.
Many years ago, my father used to open the cellar door and either
yell, "Turn it down!!" or, "Play that 'zoom, zoom zoom zoom zoom'
thing!'". He meant '3rd stone from the sun' by Hendix.
Ahh, memories.
brian
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| User: "slunky" |
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19 Dec 2006 09:14:38 PM |
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_/ Brianversion wrote \_
Wish we lived closer, I need a bass player, you could use mine.
Yea, that would be nice.
I almost pawned my old tele many times, over 36 years.
My bass was $200 when I bought it at a pawn shop, and I sold it for $15
thinking I was going to get it back, but I didn't have the money to get
it back out, so I lost it.
I picked up harmonica 12 years ago, after seeing Neil one night on
SNL. Got a couple of neck thingees, and all the keys.
I've only got three harmonicas, but they're the keys I like to play. I
like to make them wail, and you just can't really do that on a high F
unless you want to buy new reeds every other week.
I play bass, but I only learn the song, I am no real bass player.
What do you use for percussion?
I've got a lot of hand drums, and when I need a drum set, I use Cakewalk
Fruity Loops. I had a Boss drum machine, but I could never figure it
out, and couldn't get a manual for it.
But next year, I'll be back, I hope. You'll be back too, I bet.
I'm sure I'll be back, but I don't know when, and until I get the effort
to try, I won't be doing much of it.
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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19 Dec 2006 08:57:21 PM |
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On 19 Dec 2006 16:48:39 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
I always envied/was mystified by/ the people who "got it" when it came
to audio.
Audio covers a vast area. Setting up systems, even commercial systems is a
totally different animal to setting up studio equipment. We had two guys who
specialised in that side of the business, and yet they couldn't setup a basic
audio system to save their life - and likewise..My real pleasure was in the
designing of loudspeakers, something I miss doing (I've even had a small
degree of success in the UK with a couple of designs being sold by a couple
of british speaker manufacturers)..
Congratulations, she didn't like being away from you. She used to
spend summers in a part of the city I grew up in, though we've never
met. Best wishes. Buy a friendly dog and a couple of cats.
Thank you Brian, we've got just that, two cats and one dog :)
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| User: "Brianversion" |
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19 Dec 2006 09:16:05 PM |
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=E1=F1ti-=EBV=EArYtH=EF=F1G wrote:
On 19 Dec 2006 16:48:39 -0800, "Brianversion" <brianguitar@gmail.com> wro=
te:
I always envied/was mystified by/ the people who "got it" when it came
to audio.
Audio covers a vast area. Setting up systems, even commercial systems is a
totally different animal to setting up studio equipment. We had two guys =
who
specialised in that side of the business, and yet they couldn't setup a b=
asic
audio system to save their life - and likewise..My real pleasure was in t=
he
designing of loudspeakers, something I miss doing (I've even had a small
degree of success in the UK with a couple of designs being sold by a coup=
le
of british speaker manufacturers)..
You must know the Root Mean Square math and all...cool!
I had a friend many years ago who had 1 'voice of the theatre'
altec-lansing (i think) big speaker, you've seen them, the size of a
stout refrigerator. He took it apart, examined it, and built a partner
for it, looked and sounded great ('crossovers' and everything, whatever
they are.)
I brought an old 15 inch into a store near Mannys in NYC. The guy
started ripping the cone out of it before I even told him what I
wanted. New York. Crazy.
Bose makes that new pillar, for onstage performers, bet it sounds great
but costs a million.
Congratulations, she didn't like being away from you. She used to
spend summers in a part of the city I grew up in, though we've never
met. Best wishes. Buy a friendly dog and a couple of cats.
Thank you Brian, we've got just that, two cats and one dog :)
I'm a bit psychic.
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| User: "áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG" |
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19 Dec 2006 09:04:10 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:57:21 -0500, áñti-ëVêrYtHïñG <me@privacy.net> wrote:
Audio covers a vast area. Setting up systems, even commercial systems is a
totally different animal to setting up studio equipment. We had two guys who
specialised in that side of the business, and yet they couldn't setup a basic
audio system to save their life - and likewise..
Meaning studio equipment is way way WAY more difficult (just wanted to clear
that up)
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| User: "slunky" |
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15 Dec 2006 09:45:21 PM |
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This post depresses me because my wife was going to buy me a new
reciever for Christmas, but the store wouldn't approve her in-store
credit account. So now my present will have to be a surprise.
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