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Date: 24 May 2006 09:25:18 AM
Object: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
accomplished"?]
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'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage runs
in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, May 24, 2006
Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off the
answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."
"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.
[...]
Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.
Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been fixed
during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.
Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live in.
Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.
[...]
Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into the
streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite slums
of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings made
of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid, greenish-black
pools of sewage in the streets.
While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the western
part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed there
Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police station.
"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old student,
told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were running
in chaos, screaming."
Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after suicide
bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines of cars
stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that has
quadrupled in price since before the invasion.
Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a risky
endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they would be
targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime kidnappings and
killings for no apparent reason other than their victims' religious
roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who have
moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.
[...]
In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern Baghdad,
religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr feed
off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure, using
it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail, commander of
the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, which
patrols this area.
[...]
U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias loyal to
other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of the
militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at al-Sadr's -- are
operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence that has
swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls and
windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.
- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately
.

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Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 09:50:56 AM
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file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage runs
in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off the
answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been fixed
during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live in.
Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into the
streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite slums
of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings made
of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid, greenish-black
pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the western
part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed there
Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police station.

"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old student,
told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were running
in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after suicide
bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines of cars
stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that has
quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a risky
endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they would be
targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime kidnappings and
killings for no apparent reason other than their victims' religious
roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who have
moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern Baghdad,
religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr feed
off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure, using
it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail, commander of
the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, which
patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias loyal to
other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of the
militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at al-Sadr's -- are
operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence that has
swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls and
windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately

who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid
.
User: "jill"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 10:46:13 AM
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[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
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http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage runs
in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off the
answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been fixed
during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live in.
Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into the
streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite slums
of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings made
of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid, greenish-black
pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the western
part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed there
Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police station.

"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old student,
told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were running
in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after suicide
bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines of cars
stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that has
quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a risky
endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they would be
targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime kidnappings and
killings for no apparent reason other than their victims' religious
roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who have
moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern Baghdad,
religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr feed
off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure, using
it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail, commander of
the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, which
patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias loyal to
other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of the
militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at al-Sadr's -- are
operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence that has
swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls and
windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately



who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid

I know,,, I see that word all the time and it drives me nuts..
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 10:53:39 AM
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[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage

runs

in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off

the

answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been

fixed

during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live

in.

Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into the
streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite slums
of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings made
of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid,

greenish-black

pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the western
part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed

there

Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police station.

"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old student,
told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were running
in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after

suicide

bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines of

cars

stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that has
quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a

risky

endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they would

be

targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime kidnappings

and

killings for no apparent reason other than their victims' religious
roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who

have

moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern Baghdad,
religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr

feed

off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure,

using

it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail, commander

of

the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, which
patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias loyal

to

other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of the
militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at al-Sadr's --

are

operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence that

has

swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls and
windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately



who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid


I know,,, I see that word all the time and it drives me nuts..

it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way
.
User: "jill"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:04:36 AM
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"millipede man" <millipede_man@millipede.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD4BB883DD1millieNOTSORTANOTSOR@207.217.125.201...

[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage

runs

in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off

the

answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been

fixed

during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live

in.

Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into the
streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite slums
of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings made
of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid,

greenish-black

pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the western
part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed

there

Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police station.

"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old student,
told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were running
in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after

suicide

bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines of

cars

stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that has
quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a

risky

endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they would

be

targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime kidnappings

and

killings for no apparent reason other than their victims' religious
roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who

have

moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern Baghdad,
religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr

feed

off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure,

using

it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail, commander

of

the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, which
patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias loyal

to

other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of the
militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at al-Sadr's --

are

operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence that

has

swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls and
windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately



who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid


I know,,, I see that word all the time and it drives me nuts..


it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way

Or we are fighting poverty. Or we are recycling. Or we whatever,,
In my opinion it is almost never apropriate,, People should use the
word us and then define for the listener who us is.. We is a tactic.
It is a manipulative word that is used to create the illusion that
there are alot of people behind the speaker. To create the idea that
everybody is onboard. Some times I think everything and everyone is
just one big failure to communicate.. I am so negative lately. I
hope this passes soon,, waving, jill
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:15:26 AM
"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:

"millipede man" <millipede_man@millipede.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD4BB883DD1millieNOTSORTANOTSOR@207.217.125.201...

[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared

"Mission

accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage

runs

in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman

asked

rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked

off

the

answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water.

Food."


"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the

Iraqi

capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here

remain

sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been

fixed

during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's

needs,

said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st

Airborne

Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you

live

in.

Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than

300

garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six

months,

city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for

the

government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into

the

streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite

slums

of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings

made

of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid,

greenish-black

pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the

western

part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed

there

Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police

station.


"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old

student,

told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were

running

in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after

suicide

bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines

of

cars

stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that

has

quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a

risky

endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they

would

be

targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime

kidnappings

and

killings for no apparent reason other than their victims'

religious

roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who

have

moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern

Baghdad,

religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr

feed

off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure,

using

it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail,

commander

of

the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division,

which

patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias

loyal

to

other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of

the

militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at

al-Sadr's --

are

operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence

that

has

swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls

and

windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake

and

that we should get out of Iraq immediately



who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid


I know,,, I see that word all the time and it drives me nuts..


it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way

Or we are fighting poverty. Or we are recycling. Or we whatever,,
In my opinion it is almost never apropriate,, People should use the
word us and then define for the listener who us is.. We is a tactic.
It is a manipulative word that is used to create the illusion that
there are alot of people behind the speaker. To create the idea that
everybody is onboard. Some times I think everything and everyone is
just one big failure to communicate.. I am so negative lately. I
hope this passes soon,, waving, jill

i guess you and i , well , we just know better


.
User: "jill"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 25 May 2006 09:54:50 AM
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"millipede man" <millipede_man@millipede.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD4BB883DD1millieNOTSORTANOTSOR@207.217.125.201...

[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared

"Mission

accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage

runs

in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman

asked

rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked

off

the

answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water.

Food."


"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the

Iraqi

capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here

remain

sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been

fixed

during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's

needs,

said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st

Airborne

Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you

live

in.

Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than

300

garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six

months,

city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for

the

government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into

the

streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite

slums

of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings

made

of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid,

greenish-black

pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the

western

part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed

there

Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police

station.


"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old

student,

told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were

running

in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after

suicide

bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines

of

cars

stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that

has

quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a

risky

endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they

would

be

targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime

kidnappings

and

killings for no apparent reason other than their victims'

religious

roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who

have

moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern

Baghdad,

religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr

feed

off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure,

using

it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail,

commander

of

the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division,

which

patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias

loyal

to

other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of

the

militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at

al-Sadr's --

are

operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence

that

has

swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls

and

windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake

and

that we should get out of Iraq immediately



who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid


I know,,, I see that word all the time and it drives me nuts..


it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way

Or we are fighting poverty. Or we are recycling. Or we whatever,,
In my opinion it is almost never apropriate,, People should use the
word us and then define for the listener who us is.. We is a tactic.
It is a manipulative word that is used to create the illusion that
there are alot of people behind the speaker. To create the idea that
everybody is onboard. Some times I think everything and everyone is
just one big failure to communicate.. I am so negative lately. I
hope this passes soon,, waving, jill



i guess you and i , well , we just know better

You bet your ***** we do,,,,, haha


.


User: ""

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:43:25 AM
jill wrote:

% wrote:

"jill" <ojj9691@aol.com> wrote in message
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% wrote:

"millipede man" <millipede_man@millipede.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD4BB883DD1millieNOTSORTANOTSOR@207.217.125.201...

[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage

runs

in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off

the

answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been

fixed

during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live

in.

Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.

[...]

Garbage clogs sewage pipes, causing raw sewage to overflow into the
streets and fill the air with the stench of decay. In the Shiite slums
of Sadr City in northeastern Baghdad, residents live in dwellings made
of bits of corrugated metal, chunks of concrete and rusted oil
canisters. Snowy white egrets skim the surface of putrid,

greenish-black

pools of sewage in the streets.

While much of the violence in Baghdad has taken place in the western
part of the city, Sadr City is not immune. Five people were killed

there

Tuesday when a car bomb exploded at the entrance to a police station.

"It was a horrible scene," Hussein Abdul-Hady, a 20-year-old student,
told the Los Angeles Times. "Bodies without hands; people were running
in chaos, screaming."

Throughout the city, scores of gas stations have shut down after

suicide

bombers began targeting them. Outside stations still open, lines of

cars

stretch sometimes for more than a mile, waiting for gasoline that has
quadrupled in price since before the invasion.

Food, for those who can afford it, is plentiful, but shopping is a

risky

endeavor. Many shop owners have shut their stores, fearing they would

be

targeted by religious militias who stage brazen daytime kidnappings

and

killings for no apparent reason other than their victims' religious
roots. Others have joined the mass exodus of Baghdad residents who

have

moved out of the city to flee the endemic violence.

[...]

In the predominantly Shiite, largely poverty-stricken eastern Baghdad,
religious leaders like the firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr

feed

off the popular disenchantment with the collapsed infrastructure,

using

it to draw support for their militias, said Col. Tom Vail, commander

of

the 506th Regimental Combat Team of the 101st Airborne Division, which
patrols this area.

[...]

U.S. and Iraqi officials say al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and militias loyal

to

other Shiite clerics have infiltrated the national police. Some of the
militias -- although no one has pointed specifically at al-Sadr's --

are

operating death squads, contributing to the sectarian violence that

has

swept the country since the Feb. 22 bombing of the Shiite Askariya
Shrine in Samarra. Dozens of black funeral banners draped on walls and
windowsills around the capital mark the toll of violence.

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately



who's we , you're not in Iraq stupid


I know,,, I see that word all the time and it drives me nuts..


it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way

Or we are fighting poverty. Or we are recycling. Or we whatever,,
In my opinion it is almost never apropriate,, People should use the
word us and then define for the listener who us is.. We is a tactic.
It is a manipulative word that is used to create the illusion that
there are alot of people behind the speaker. To create the idea that
everybody is onboard.

yeah, I use the word a lot, and it's due to insecurity, I think...
I've always had a lot of insecurity in many area... using the word "we"
makes me feel less alone, it makes me feel like I have more authority
in what I say because other people feel the same way... I agree with
you and %...

-"jordie"
.


User: "Patriot1776"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:34:46 AM
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way

LMAO again. Let's see, where do I begin...
No caps; both commas missplaced; "its" instead of "it's";
missing puctuation mark after "properly"; no quotation marks
or commas after "says" and no period at the end. And you
managed this in less than three lines....and all from the same
person who complains about things not being "used properly."
I just knew this would be worth it!
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 12:56:25 PM
"Patriot1776" <patriot1776@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way


LMAO again. Let's see, where do I begin...

No caps; both commas missplaced; "its" instead of "it's";
missing puctuation mark after "properly"; no quotation marks
or commas after "says" and no period at the end. And you
managed this in less than three lines....and all from the same
person who complains about things not being "used properly."

I just knew this would be worth it!

----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001


blow me , bugle boy


.

User: "Patriot1776"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:43:15 AM
"Patriot1776" <patriot1776@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:%W%cg.56412$iB2.42108@bignews4.bellsouth.net...

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:wfSdncal9oULHOnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com...


it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or we
think this way


LMAO again. Let's see, where do I begin...

No caps; both commas missplaced; "its" instead of "it's";
missing puctuation mark after "properly"; no quotation marks
or commas after "says" and no period at the end. And you
managed this in less than three lines....and all from the same
person who complains about things not being "used properly."

....and "to" instead of "do" along with the missing commas after
the first "we."
The fun never stops here!!!!!!!!!

I just knew this would be worth it!

----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001





.
User: "%"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 12:56:49 PM
"Patriot1776" <patriot1776@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Patriot1776" <patriot1776@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:wfSdncal9oULHOnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@giganews.com...


it doesn't always bug me , just when its not used properly
like when someone says , we tend to do this or we tend to to that or

we

think this way


LMAO again. Let's see, where do I begin...

No caps; both commas missplaced; "its" instead of "it's";
missing puctuation mark after "properly"; no quotation marks
or commas after "says" and no period at the end. And you
managed this in less than three lines....and all from the same
person who complains about things not being "used properly."


...and "to" instead of "do" along with the missing commas after
the first "we."
The fun never stops here!!!!!!!!!

I just knew this would be worth it!

----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001


you're stuttering again




.






User: "Patriot1776"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:27:31 AM
"millipede man" <millipede_man@millipede.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97CD4BB883DD1millieNOTSORTANOTSOR@207.217.125.201...

[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage runs
in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off the
answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

That's our George! Of course, his head is firmly planted up Israel's *****,
so
everything will be peachy for him.
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
.

User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 09:52:09 PM
x-no-archive: yes
You broke it, you fix it!
Thomas
.

User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:18:34 AM
x-no-archive: yes
millipede man wrote:

[MM: How many years have passed since moron GW Bush declared "Mission
accomplished"?]


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?
file=/c/a/2006/05/24/MNGLAJ16071.DTL

'
Violence aside, Baghdad is broken
Water runs only an hour a day, power is on for 4 hours, and sewage runs
in the streets
Anna Badkhen, Chronicle Staff Writer

Wednesday, May 24, 2006

Baghdad -- "Leaving aside security," Kassim the carpet salesman asked
rhetorically, "when you come home, what do you need?" He ticked off the
answers on the fingers on his right hand: "Electricity. Water. Food."

"Getting any of this in Baghdad is a problem," he said.

[...]

Three years after the U.S. invasion, during which most of the Iraqi
capital's infrastructure collapsed, rudimentary services here remain
sporadic at best.

Decades-old water treatment plants that were supposed to have been fixed
during postwar reconstruction meet only 60 percent of Baghdad's needs,
said Lt. Col. Chris Hall, whose unit, attached to the 101st Airborne
Division, is helping Iraqis rebuild power and water facilities.

Garbage chokes the city of 4.5 million people. Trash collection is
erratic or nonexistent, depending on which part of the city you live in.
Insurgents use heaps of garbage to hide roadside bombs. More than 300
garbage collectors have been killed in Baghdad in the past six months,
city officials say. Insurgents target them because they work for the
government.

Um, how do leave security aside from this? If the garbage isn't being
picked up because they are killing garbagemen, then the reason they
might have garbage in the streets is because...?

- millipede man, who thinks the Iraq war was an expensive mistake and
that we should get out of Iraq immediately

I agree, that money would have been better spent on aid to Israel directly.
.
User: "Patriot1776"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:38:37 AM
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474874B.6090908@comcast.net...

I agree, that money would have been better spent on aid to Israel

directly.
Now there's a shocker. You're either a Zionist wannabe or some dumbass
Goy who's swallowed their ***** along with the pills. You certainly have
shown the sleazy, slithery morals of a Zionist, with your cut and run
tactics here.
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
.
User: "N/A"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 12:44:02 PM
Patriot1776 wrote:

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474874B.6090908@comcast.net...

I agree, that money would have been better spent on aid to Israel

directly.

Now there's a shocker. You're either a Zionist wannabe or some dumbass
Goy who's swallowed their ***** along with the pills. You certainly have
shown the sleazy, slithery morals of a Zionist, with your cut and run
tactics here.

----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001

LOL!
You happy puppet. Thor keeps pulling the strings, and you dance.
.
User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 03:11:23 PM
x-no-archive: yes
N/A wrote:

Patriot1776 wrote:

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474874B.6090908@comcast.net...


I agree, that money would have been better spent on aid to Israel


directly.

Now there's a shocker. You're either a Zionist wannabe or some dumbass
Goy who's swallowed their ***** along with the pills. You certainly have
shown the sleazy, slithery morals of a Zionist, with your cut and run
tactics here.

----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001




LOL!
You happy puppet. Thor keeps pulling the strings, and you dance.

I almost feel bad. It's like hiding the ball from Bruno.
.
User: "Patriot1776"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 03:40:33 PM
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474BDDC.6070801@comcast.net...

x-no-archive: yes

N/A wrote:

LOL!
You happy puppet. Thor keeps pulling the strings, and you dance.


I almost feel bad. It's like hiding the ball from Bruno.

I'm still having fun, sorry. :) Hmmm, strange comments........
I have no idea what you loonies are quacking about.
Me thinks it's drug-addled dancing around though.
I guess you still have enough gray matter left to evade.
A couple of examples of mental illness at work; always
amusing! Do you nuts drive? I had a headcase smash
into me a while back. She was stopped at a stop sign,
and just when I cruised in front of her, something zinged
in what was left of her pharmacy-flooded brain, and she
decided to hit the gas pedal, smashing into me. Get this,
the psycho was on her way to the doctor! She didn't
want to call police. I did, her insurance company paid
big for having a druggie for a customer. Oh well...how're
your driving records? How many mind-altering substances
do you ingest in a year? Come on, be honest! Let's
take a survey. I'll be the first data point. I've had none.
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 03:44:08 PM
"Patriot1776" <patriot1776@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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x-no-archive: yes

N/A wrote:

LOL!
You happy puppet. Thor keeps pulling the strings, and you dance.


I almost feel bad. It's like hiding the ball from Bruno.


I'm still having fun, sorry. :) Hmmm, strange comments........

I have no idea what you loonies are quacking about.
Me thinks it's drug-addled dancing around though.
I guess you still have enough gray matter left to evade.

A couple of examples of mental illness at work; always
amusing! Do you nuts drive? I had a headcase smash
into me a while back. She was stopped at a stop sign,
and just when I cruised in front of her, something zinged
in what was left of her pharmacy-flooded brain, and she
decided to hit the gas pedal, smashing into me. Get this,
the psycho was on her way to the doctor! She didn't
want to call police. I did, her insurance company paid
big for having a druggie for a customer. Oh well...how're
your driving records? How many mind-altering substances
do you ingest in a year? Come on, be honest! Let's
take a survey. I'll be the first data point. I've had none.

----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."

----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001


what a mommy's boy
.

User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 04:34:39 PM
x-no-archive: yes
Patriot1776 wrote:

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474BDDC.6070801@comcast.net...

x-no-archive: yes

N/A wrote:


LOL!


You happy puppet. Thor keeps pulling the strings, and you dance.


I almost feel bad. It's like hiding the ball from Bruno.



I'm still having fun, sorry. :) Hmmm, strange comments........

I have no idea what you loonies are quacking about.
Me thinks it's drug-addled dancing around though.
I guess you still have enough gray matter left to evade.

A couple of examples of mental illness at work; always
amusing! Do you nuts drive? I had a headcase smash
into me a while back. She was stopped at a stop sign,
and just when I cruised in front of her, something zinged
in what was left of her pharmacy-flooded brain, and she
decided to hit the gas pedal, smashing into me. Get this,
the psycho was on her way to the doctor! She didn't
want to call police. I did, her insurance company paid
big for having a druggie for a customer. Oh well...how're
your driving records? How many mind-altering substances
do you ingest in a year? Come on, be honest! Let's
take a survey. I'll be the first data point. I've had none.

Clearly you are a paragon of mental hygiene. Well done, sir.
.
User: "Patriot1776"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 05:44:03 PM
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474D160.6000102@comcast.net...

Clearly you are a paragon of mental hygiene. Well done, sir.

And you're a paragon of the dodge. Give us you list of head-zappers
in the past year. Gonna do it? Didn't think so....
----------
"Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We,
the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
----Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001


.
User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:16:14 PM
x-no-archive: yes
Patriot1776 wrote:

"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4474D160.6000102@comcast.net...


Clearly you are a paragon of mental hygiene. Well done, sir.



And you're a paragon of the dodge. Give us you list of head-zappers
in the past year. Gonna do it? Didn't think so....

No can do, you intimidate me too much.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: ot: Violence aside, Baghdad is broken 24 May 2006 11:21:34 PM
you know
.










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