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04 May 2005 09:17:26 AM |
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people really work full time? |
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
-"Alvintchase"
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04 May 2005 11:36:47 PM |
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wrote...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost
imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew
what I was doing in my job and it was a low stress
job,otherwise it seems like an amazingly,incredibly
difficult thing to do...
-"Alvintchase"
at the last place i worked, i had two different half-time
jobs. at other jobs, i worked doing very varied things, like
computer work and helping farmers in their fields. i found
that the variety helped.
now there's no way i could do most jobs. stress makes me
crash, and i have trouble following a schedule, even at
programs like my partial hospitalization program, where i have
to show up at the same time each day and work the groups in
order. not to mention that fact that between depression and
residual stuff from the ect i have a very poor memory,
especially for learning now things...
-lisa
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| User: "pannah" |
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05 May 2005 12:22:39 AM |
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
-"Alvintchase"
it's a very difficult thing to do for someone with problems and
disabilities, very.
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05 May 2005 09:40:28 AM |
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pannah wrote:
<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like
an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
-"Alvintchase"
it's a very difficult thing to do for someone with problems and
disabilities, very.
yeah,I can imagine...What makes me sad is that I've heard that many
people really dislike their job...To me,to have a job that you go to
everyday,where you are not happy their...that's seems very,very sad to
me...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Luna" |
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04 May 2005 01:02:38 PM |
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
You are so Peter Pan, Alvin!
Work can give your life form, purpose and meaning - even if it's just some
crappy job, there's a sense of pride in working. It's an eat what you kill
world for most of us.
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "%. surfs@uniserve" |
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04 May 2005 01:04:46 PM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message news:8JmdncAM7ausk-TfRVn-vQ@rogers.com...
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: <relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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: > That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
: > working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
: > doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
: > amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
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: You are so Peter Pan, Alvin!
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: Work can give your life form, purpose and meaning - even if it's just some
: crappy job, there's a sense of pride in working. It's an eat what you kill
: world for most of us.
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: Jean
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: > -"Alvintchase"
you kill me
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| User: "RGB" |
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04 May 2005 04:23:07 PM |
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In article <8JmdncAM7ausk-TfRVn-vQ@rogers.com>,
"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote:
You are so Peter Pan, Alvin!
Complete with the "Jesus Juice".
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05 May 2005 09:52:37 AM |
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Luna wrote:
<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like
an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
You are so Peter Pan, Alvin!
Work can give your life form, purpose and meaning - even if it's just
some
crappy job, there's a sense of pride in working.
Yep,I completly agree...I'm thankful for my part time jobs,including
my volunteer work...
It's an eat what you kill
world for most of us.
That is what I find very sad...the world should be a much,much
better place...
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
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05 May 2005 10:02:41 AM |
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Luna wrote:
<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like
an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
You are so Peter Pan, Alvin!
Work can give your life form, purpose and meaning - even if it's just
some
crappy job, there's a sense of pride in working.
Oh yes,I agree...I'm thankfull to have the work I do,including
volunteer work...I just know that a 40+ hours a week job,unless it was
very low stress,would be incredibly difficult for me...
It's an eat what you kill
world for most of us.
I often think that's really sad...the world should be a much,much
better place...a much easier place...
Jean
-"Alvintchase"
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04 May 2005 10:53:16 AM |
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In article <1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
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it seems like an amazingly, incredibly difficult thing to do...
For some, it is. But we work both because we don't have a choice and
because it's a better life than not working, because we'd collapse into
ourselves and disappear if we didn't have that forced daily integration
into society. Sometimes we hate it but we do it anyway, and the need to
do that creates the ability and we grow stronger and hate it less. Some
people dream of not having to working and some people realize that dream
and are destroyed by it.
I have to work myself in around an hour. Things are not going well, I
have some concern that today might be my last full day, but who knows.
Note to self: try to keep a clear head and do that "tending your garden
on Judgement Day" thing.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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04 May 2005 12:24:34 PM |
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In message <Ld6ee.58974$Z26.5990@fe03!news.easynews.com>, RGB
<rrggbb@mac.com> writes
In article <1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
relayer211@hotmail.com wrote:
it seems like an amazingly, incredibly difficult thing to do...
For some, it is. But we work both because we don't have a choice and
because it's a better life than not working, because we'd collapse into
ourselves and disappear if we didn't have that forced daily integration
into society.
Thinks, I don't work, so I have disappeared.
<Poof!>
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "RGB" |
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04 May 2005 04:22:11 PM |
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In article <5CiU6fJSVQeCFwkh@harding.demon.co.uk>,
Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Thinks, I don't work, so I have disappeared.
If this means I offended you, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. I was talking
about what happens to me, not meaning to devalue anyone's life.
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| User: "ponette" |
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04 May 2005 01:25:39 PM |
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Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Thinks, I don't work, so I have disappeared.
<Poof!>
I see you.
p
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| User: "ponette" |
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04 May 2005 11:10:22 AM |
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RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
relayer211@hotmail.com wrote:
it seems like an amazingly, incredibly difficult thing to do...
For some, it is. But we work both because we don't have a choice
and because it's a better life than not working, because we'd collapse >into
ourselves and disappear if we didn't have that forced
daily integration into society.
I'm the oddball. I'm more likely to collapse and disapear at work than outside
of it. I have one coworker who talks to me regularly. It seems, at times, it
would take anyone else *days* to realize I was dead at my desk, even. Not trying
to be bleak, but there it is. (She's going on vacation for almost 3 weeks soon.
It's always hard not to feel invisible or even present when she's gone.) I'd
do better at home. I'd rather be alone than to be ignored. And at least when
I'm home, I have the option of going someplace where people *have* to deal
with me.
But yes, I know what you are saying. I imagine it's true for many if not most
people.
Sometimes we hate it but we do it anyway, and the need to
do that creates the ability and we grow stronger and hate it less.
Somepeople dream of not having to working and some people
realize that dream and are destroyed by it.
It's not so much that I hate work or don't want to work at all, I just want
the freedom to call my own shots. I think if I didn't have the obligations
I have, I'd be working part time for a community service agency, a school,
or someplace similar using the same skills I have but to greater personal fulfillment.
I'd like to be free of the money aspect driving me and just choose with my
heart.
I have to work myself in around an hour. Things are not going well, I
have some concern that today might be my last full day, but who knows.
Note to self: try to keep a clear head and do that "tending
your garden on Judgement Day" thing.
Your note to self sounds like wise advice. I hope your day goes far better
than you anticipate.
p
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04 May 2005 04:20:00 PM |
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In article <4278f3ee$1@x-privat.org>, "ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
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Your note to self sounds like wise advice. I hope your day goes far better
than you anticipate.
Thanks. I'm trying to take it. Hanging in there, doing the work. But I'm
also going to clean out my desk at the end of today, just in case.
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| User: "ponette" |
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04 May 2005 04:56:09 PM |
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RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <4278f3ee$1@x-privat.org>, "ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Your note to self sounds like wise advice. I hope your day goes far better
than you anticipate.
Thanks. I'm trying to take it. Hanging in there, doing the work. But
I'm also going to clean out my desk at the end of today, just in case.
I'm wishing you the best.
p
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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04 May 2005 10:20:05 PM |
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On 2005-05-04, wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
It's easier for the able.
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<bevthornton@despammed.com> Support: <http://tinyurl.com/6prvl>
Restrain your mind from what is evil.
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| User: "elegy" |
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04 May 2005 08:25:33 PM |
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On 4 May 2005 07:17:26 -0700, wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
well, when the options are work or not pay the bills, you're kind of
stuck.
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"know she breaks, my siren" (tori)
http://shattering.org
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| User: "ponette" |
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04 May 2005 09:44:49 AM |
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On 4 May 2005 07:17:26 -0700, wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
Yup, it's doable. It's not particularly fun, but I don't expect it to
be. I do like some parts of my job. I preferred working part time, but
I couldn't justify the decreased income, once my daughter reached
schoolage.
I leave for work soon, in fact.
I don't remember your history, as to why you are financially
supported. I tried to Google for it, out of curiousity, but you are
such a prolific poster that I gave up.
p
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| User: "" |
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04 May 2005 09:54:11 AM |
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ponette wrote:
On 4 May 2005 07:17:26 -0700, wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like
an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
Yup, it's doable. It's not particularly fun, but I don't expect it to
be. I do like some parts of my job. I preferred working part time,
but
I couldn't justify the decreased income, once my daughter reached
schoolage.
I leave for work soon, in fact.
I don't remember your history, as to why you are financially
supported. I tried to Google for it, out of curiousity, but you are
such a prolific poster that I gave up.
p
Certainly I like working part time,and I'm hoping to find more
work...either paid or volunteer,though it does feel really good to earn
your own money...One long term job just ended,but I still work part
time doing telephone surveys,and I work one day a week at a pottery
place.I also do volunteer work...I guess I am capable of doing full
time work,though I know it would be extremly challenging mentally and
emotionally for me...even if I could find a full time job,and I really
doubt that I could...I left college in march of my freshman years...I
felt that I just couldn't function there,on any level,in any way,shape
or form...thankfully I do have a lot of financial support...I do feel
guilty often about having financial support because I think it's sad
that evryone doesn't have it,but I also feel very lucky as well...
-"Alvintchase"
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04 May 2005 10:09:24 AM |
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On 4 May 2005 07:54:11 -0700, wrote:
thankfully I do have a lot of financial support...I do feel
guilty often about having financial support because I think it's sad
that evryone doesn't have it,but I also feel very lucky as well...
I'd love to have a choice not to work, or to work only on my own
terms. It's not likely to happen. So it's hard for me to hear so much
of the time about your "financial support"...but that's my problem and
not yours.
p
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| User: "Used2be" |
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04 May 2005 02:55:49 PM |
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"ponette" <ponette0000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On 4 May 2005 07:54:11 -0700, wrote:
thankfully I do have a lot of financial support...I do feel
guilty often about having financial support because I think it's sad
that evryone doesn't have it,but I also feel very lucky as well...
I'd love to have a choice not to work, or to work only on my own
terms. It's not likely to happen. So it's hard for me to hear so much
of the time about your "financial support"...but that's my problem and
not yours.
i think his financial support comes from "daddio" from what i've gathered
over the years.
~u2b
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| User: "ponette" |
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04 May 2005 06:08:37 PM |
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"Used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
i think his financial support comes from "daddio" from what i've >gathered
over the years.
~u2b
That's more than I could sort out! Tanx.
p
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05 May 2005 09:25:55 AM |
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ponette wrote:
On 4 May 2005 07:54:11 -0700, wrote:
thankfully I do have a lot of financial support...I do feel
guilty often about having financial support because I think it's sad
that evryone doesn't have it,but I also feel very lucky as well...
I'd love to have a choice not to work, or to work only on my own
terms. It's not likely to happen. So it's hard for me to hear so
much
of the time about your "financial support"...but that's my problem
and
not yours.
p
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I can understand that...I just feel that I should be as open and
honest as possible about it...I definatly would like to earn more of my
own money...but I've had very little luck at it,so far...
-"Alvintchase"
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04 May 2005 06:35:29 PM |
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Your assumption that people have knowledge of their job is erroneous.
Now, if you'll excuse me. I've worked 7-5 this past week (and probably will
next week too) and there's a lot of booze that needs to go away.
<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1115216245.997759.167740@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
-"Alvintchase"
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04 May 2005 11:25:26 AM |
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
This might sound weird to you, but some people even
work extra hours on top of a fulltime job.
Thomas
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04 May 2005 10:32:33 PM |
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"Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> wrote in message
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
This might sound weird to you, but some people even
work extra hours on top of a fulltime job.
That's very true.. ..and some people work extra hours.. ..go to school, and
take care of a kid (or kids), all by themselves - alone (hardly stopping to
*sleep*). There's no one there to hand them cash or tell them what a great
job they're doing.. ..and half the time they're ready to fucking collapse
and die. Depression hardly competes with the urgency of this chaotic
struggle for life. Instinct tends to run at the forefront for days at a
time. And there is no *choice* involved in the matter. Eat or be eaten.
Sorry if I don't sound empathetic to the plight of the apathetic. It's
rather difficult from where I stand. I don't even *have* parents to help me
out financially. (mother is dead, and father is a dead-beat, who regularly
borrows money off of *me*)
boohoo me.
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04 May 2005 11:46:36 PM |
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electroscopillan wrote...
"Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> wrote in message
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can
almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew
what I was doing in my job and it was a low stress
job,otherwise it seems like an amazingly,incredibly
difficult thing to do...
This might sound weird to you, but some people even
work extra hours on top of a fulltime job.
That's very true.. ..and some people work extra hours..
..go to school, and take care of a kid (or kids), all by
themselves - alone (hardly stopping to *sleep*). There's
no one there to hand them cash or tell them what a great
job they're doing.. ..and half the time they're ready to
fucking collapse and die. Depression hardly competes with
the urgency of this chaotic struggle for life. Instinct
tends to run at the forefront for days at a time. And
there is no *choice* involved in the matter. Eat or be
eaten.
Sorry if I don't sound empathetic to the plight of the
apathetic. It's rather difficult from where I stand. I
don't even *have* parents to help me out financially.
(mother is dead, and father is a dead-beat, who regularly
borrows money off of *me*)
boohoo me.
i have great admiration for people who can juggle so many
things and survive it without turning to substance abuse to
pull them through. my husband couldn't handle working and
taking care of two kids and an invalid wife (i was in bed with
a physical disease, completely dependant.) and he wasn't
trying to go to school on top of it. you must be surviving on
sheer adrenaline at this point.
-lisa
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04 May 2005 12:48:47 PM |
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"Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> wrote in message
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
This might sound weird to you, but some people even
work extra hours on top of a fulltime job.
Thomas
It would probably be better for me to work full time,
but I can't concentrate. Plus I have to work at home
(phobia) and my part time job ends this month.
I'll take some time off & try to find another PT job
working at home if i can find one. Have to have
something to do with my days
sb
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04 May 2005 02:57:10 PM |
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"Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de> wrote in message
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew what I was
doing in my job and it was a low stress job,otherwise it seems like an
amazingly,incredibly difficult thing to do...
This might sound weird to you, but some people even
work extra hours on top of a fulltime job.
yes, what an incredible concept!!!!
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04 May 2005 11:40:41 PM |
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Thomas Dehn wrote...
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<relayer211@hotmail.com> wrote:
That's not just some false myth,some legend?I can almost
imagine
working full time on a long term basis if I REALLY knew
what I was doing in my job and it was a low stress
job,otherwise it seems like an amazingly,incredibly
difficult thing to do...
This might sound weird to you, but some people even
work extra hours on top of a fulltime job.
Thomas
i used to bring work home at night and on weekends to work,
unpaid, for the joy of it (i was a programmer.) i wish i could
still do that now.
-lisa
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