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Sociology > Depression |
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"Michel Selig" |
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28 Dec 2003 12:27:05 AM |
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Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
Now, there's a word for ya.
So, last night, I heard a song that sent me into an absolute
downward
spiral. I was having a FANTASTIC day up till that point, and next
thing ya know, I was locked in my office with a loaded handgun at
my
side, unable to see clearly for the tears pouring from my eyes, and
unable to think clearly for the voices telling me to "Die, die, die."
Bad fucking place to be, most folks would say.
So the wife runs next door, calls for help, and for the second time
in
six weeks, the cops are at my home, trying to help the guy who
can't
seem to help himself.
Let's recap: I've stabbed myself. I've tried to poison myself. I've
tried "suicide by cop," and now nearly shot my face off. All in a
matter of six weeks. It seems that I certainly believe in the old
adage that "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again!"
I am the ultimate "man with a plan," ladies and gentlemen.
But, alas, I digress. They convince me to go to the hospital. I get
there and a social worker asks if I will "contract my safety" with
her, which I do. They call my PDOC and I speak with him over the
phone.
"Do you want to stay in the hospital," he asks? Three hours have
elapsed at this point.
"Ummm...no doc, I don't believe I do," I respond in my best Eric
Cartman imitation.
The PDOC speaks to the attending, who then hangs up and tells
me I'm
free to go.
"Screw you guys! I'm going...home."
I get back home, and analyze the quote/unquote "scene of the
crime."
<thanks, arlo>
I do all the analysis and introspection, then go to bed.
Which leads me to this point. Perspicacity. n. acuteness of
perception, discernment, or understanding.
As much as I try to delude myself that I am actually recovering from
depression, I am able to discern that my true motives are to
continue
down this path of self-destruction until I am dead.
And unless I change this mindset, I will.
I can talk all day about how much sunsets mean to me, and my
neurons
can bathe in serotonin until they are pickled, all that is superficial
as long as my objective is to do myself in.
Thus, I am acutely aware of this: Until my goal is to live, I will
continue to die.
--
Michel
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| User: "old coyote" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 02:00:34 AM |
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"Michel Selig" <agassi92@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:MS10BJJO37983.060474537@bogg.dynu.com:
Now, there's a word for ya.
So, last night, I heard a song that sent me into an absolute
downward
spiral. I was having a FANTASTIC day up till that point, and next
thing ya know, I was locked in my office with a loaded handgun at
my
side, unable to see clearly for the tears pouring from my eyes, and
unable to think clearly for the voices telling me to "Die, die, die."
Bad fucking place to be, most folks would say.
So the wife runs next door, calls for help, and for the second time
in
six weeks, the cops are at my home, trying to help the guy who
can't
seem to help himself.
Let's recap: I've stabbed myself. I've tried to poison myself. I've
tried "suicide by cop," and now nearly shot my face off. All in a
matter of six weeks. It seems that I certainly believe in the old
adage that "if at first you don't succeed, try, try again!"
I am the ultimate "man with a plan," ladies and gentlemen.
But, alas, I digress. They convince me to go to the hospital. I get
there and a social worker asks if I will "contract my safety" with
her, which I do. They call my PDOC and I speak with him over the
phone.
"Do you want to stay in the hospital," he asks? Three hours have
elapsed at this point.
"Ummm...no doc, I don't believe I do," I respond in my best Eric
Cartman imitation.
The PDOC speaks to the attending, who then hangs up and tells
me I'm
free to go.
"Screw you guys! I'm going...home."
I get back home, and analyze the quote/unquote "scene of the
crime."
<thanks, arlo>
I do all the analysis and introspection, then go to bed.
Which leads me to this point. Perspicacity. n. acuteness of
perception, discernment, or understanding.
As much as I try to delude myself that I am actually recovering from
depression, I am able to discern that my true motives are to
continue
down this path of self-destruction until I am dead.
And unless I change this mindset, I will.
I can talk all day about how much sunsets mean to me, and my
neurons
can bathe in serotonin until they are pickled, all that is superficial
as long as my objective is to do myself in.
Thus, I am acutely aware of this: Until my goal is to live, I will
continue to die.
--
Michel
This black beast is an evil seductress, indeed. At least to me anyway. In
some obscene carnal way it deludes me into believing that I feel good
inflicting harm upon myself. And it's true, at least for the moment. I
try to recognize it for what it is - a lie in the moment. Nothing more and
nothing less, no matter how seductive it is or how much it assuages my
anguish. It is a lie. Never forget that.
--
-=oc=-
"Don't punish yourself for imagined sins." - Charles in asdf
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| User: "Aware1" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 09:00:54 AM |
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mischief abounds here, pls ignore
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 12:48:43 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
"Aware1" <pwomega@mindssprings.com> wrote in message
news:3ff0f1a8.140914224@news.east.earthlink.net...
mischief abounds here, pls ignore
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
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| User: "Rebecca Jo" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 12:58:25 PM |
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"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary
Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Someone is a jerk. Michel Selig suicided a couple of years ago.
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 06:16:39 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:58:25 -0500, "Rebecca Jo"
<rebeccajodreams@yahoo.com> wrote:
"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary
Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Someone is a jerk. Michel Selig suicided a couple of years ago.
ah. Now I remember.
--
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?10=A2_punk?=" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 08:29:47 PM |
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Rebecca Jo wrote:
"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary
Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Someone is a jerk. Michel Selig suicided a couple of years ago.
ha
hhahahahhahahaaaa
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| User: "Rhiannon" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 04:34:32 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
"Rebecca Jo" <rebeccajodreams@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bsn8uo$efvqv$1@ID-175783.news.uni-berlin.de...
"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary
Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Someone is a jerk. Michel Selig suicided a couple of years ago.
Jesus. This is obscene.
--
Rhiannon
rhiannon_@rogers.com
(rhiannon underscore at rogers dot com)
The Labyrinth of the Divine Miss Rhiannon
a.k.a. The Wondrous One
'll tell you in another life. When we are both cats."
Sophia - Vanilla Sky
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| User: "Luna" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 04:56:53 PM |
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Rhiannon wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
"Rebecca Jo" <rebeccajodreams@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bsn8uo$efvqv$1@ID-175783.news.uni-berlin.de...
"John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and
"Mary Beth" are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.)
I ask because they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Someone is a jerk. Michel Selig suicided a couple of years ago.
Jesus. This is obscene.
It is, but try to keep it in perspective - there will always be sick
horrible people. Always. It's up to the rest of us to maintain our
dignity and especially our SELVES when they present themselves. The
best thing to do when faced with these mental and moral midgets (i
hesitate to use the word midget lest it offend any midgets out there -
let me just say now I mean the word in it's "lack of abundance" sense)
is to laugh at them. Laugh, hahahahaha! You fools. Like you think you
can hurt us after what we've been through? FOOLS. Impinging on the
death of loved ones for easy points in a flame war, thinkaboutit.
Stupid and mean, the most unforgivable combination.
Jean
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| User: "Rebecca Jo" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 01:01:26 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
i forgot to x-no-archive. I'm sorry, John
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| User: "John" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 01:04:55 PM |
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x-no-archive: yes
"Rebecca Jo" <rebeccajodreams@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:bsn94d$e9sor$1@ID-175783.news.uni-berlin.de...
x-no-archive: yes
i forgot to x-no-archive. I'm sorry, John
Not a big deal.
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| User: "Criswell The Psychic Weatherman" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 06:48:33 PM |
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John wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
"Aware1" <pwomega@mindssprings.com> wrote in message
news:3ff0f1a8.140914224@news.east.earthlink.net...
mischief abounds here, pls ignore
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
MaryBeth wouldn't hide behind an anonymous remailer, and neither would either of
the Stewarts.
--
"A belief is not merely an idea the mind possesses;
it is an idea that possesses the mind." Robert Bolton
Criswell The Psychic Weatherman
ssenate@mindless.com
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| User: "Aware1" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 02:20:24 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:48:43 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
dented & constricted & squeezed out the following:
x-no-archive: yes
"Aware1" <pwomega@mindssprings.com> wrote in message
news:3ff0f1a8.140914224@news.east.earthlink.net...
mischief abounds here, pls ignore
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Yes, yes, and typical holiday projecting crap...
somebody's *****, I suppose. *shrug*
(more troll-ery assholery)
--
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| User: "SortaLily" |
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| Title: Re: Perspicacity (warning: this is BAD stuff) |
28 Dec 2003 07:11:11 PM |
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This does not bode well for New Years ..
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"Aware1" <pwomega@mindssprings.com> wrote in message
news:3ff83c29.159990766@news.east.earthlink.net...
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 18:48:43 GMT, "John" <jjdamato@hawaii.rr.com>
dented & constricted & squeezed out the following:
x-no-archive: yes
"Aware1" <pwomega@mindssprings.com> wrote in message
news:3ff0f1a8.140914224@news.east.earthlink.net...
mischief abounds here, pls ignore
Are you saying that this post is a fraud?
If so, do you think that the posts from "Stewart", "fucilli" and "Mary
Beth"
are also fraudulent? (Well, I know the fucilli one is.) I ask because
they're all from
What do you think is going on?
Yes, yes, and typical holiday projecting crap...
somebody's *****, I suppose. *shrug*
(more troll-ery assholery)
--
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| User: "John" |
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28 Dec 2003 02:11:50 AM |
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"Michel Selig" <agassi92@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MS10BJJO37983.060474537@bogg.dynu.com...
[snip]
Thus, I am acutely aware of this: Until my goal is to live, I will
continue to die.
--
Michel
Yep.
That's perspicacious.
We're all dying, though. There doesn't seem to be much help for that.
Mourning and suicide have in common a kind of denial of that truth:
"I can't live," on the one hand; and nobody should die on the other. As
though dying could be overcome by sufficient moral strength. As though it's
somehow the fault of the surivors when someone dies.
Both affected by the same error in judgment--that life makes some kind of
ultimate sense, that it ought to be fair, that it is other than absurd--and
all the self-dramatization that such a belief makes possible. The wailing
and scourging of the self, either way.
In my old age, I think I've come to rely upon less hifalutin aids to living
than . Like errands. A routine.
Not very ennobling, I grant you, but fulfilling in its own way.
Immeasureably simpler.
Don't pull the trigger. As life may not be "worth" it, neither is death.
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