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User: "Aguy"
Date: 10 Jan 2004 02:17:22 AM
Object: Please Help me
Hello

I am not sure if this is the correct place to post my message. I
need help and have no idea how to get it. I am a 38 year old male,
married to a wonderful woman who loves me and would do anything for
me. We have 4 children. My two oldest are girls, age 6, & age 4. My
Two boys are the youngest at age 23 months and age 11 months. My
family and I are a part of a Christian faith and attend fairly
regularly but I feel lonely and empty there even though I know I want
to be in this particular faith. I am a self-employed Computer
programmer that is currently out of work. My wife has ended up taking
a job in which she is able to bring in enough to make our house and
car payment. I on the other hand have become almost useless. She
basically spends most of her time trying to cheer my up and keep me
from committing suicide. I probably don't really want to commit
suicide. I just want to cease to exist.

My problems seem endless. I am extremely hypersensitive to people and
nearly beg for their friendship when I first meet them. We have many
good friends that do enjoy being with us and I know love us. I have a
complicated personality. I love to be the center of attention and to
make people laugh, which I am fairly good at as I have a knack with
humor, but absolutely am devastated when I think people are laughing
AT me or talking about me behind my back, which I think about all the
time. Weird huh?

When someone hurts my feelings I can spend all night long crying about
it. I feel like a complete baby that I am as old as I am, and a man
No less, and that I STILL act this way and have the same massive
insecurities and worries. I know a lot of it stems from my childhood
and again it's ridiculous but I still deeply hurt from the events that
happened to me. I know this is going to sound like a boo-hoo story,
but I don't know how else to explain it. We grew up in a small town
and we were extremely poor and backward. I had bucked-teeth and was
made fun of constantly from 1st grade until I graduated from high
school. Every single day of school I was terrified that I would get
beat up by the bullies that new I would cry or get my feelings hurt.
I never learned that it would have stopped if I just would have stood
up to 2 or 3 of them, even if I would have got my clock cleaned, they
would have left my alone after that. I also could never stop letting
it hurt me. As a result of this I still to this day rehears
incredibly embarrassing moments that happened years ago and play them
over and over in my mind and have murderous revengeful anger towards
these people. I now don't have to teeth problem anymore and I we
live in a slightly upper-middle class neighborhood so I don't feel
like I"m the poor boy. But I still feel backward as I never finished
my formal education and in the back of my mind I always just know that
people will find out the truth. That I am just a loser from a small
town that will eventually amount to nothing. zero. My self-esteem
now is affected by the fact that I'm 50 pounds overweight. I always
feel people see me as just the wimpy fat guy now. On top of this I
have massive panic attacks. I have been taking xanax and Klonipin
which have helped with those but not the overall problem.

The terrorist attacks and the economy have been incredibly
devastating. I have been an extremely worrier. The type the fears
the end of the world, earthquakes, tornadoes and other national
disasters, death of loved ones, and also the extreme fear of not being
able to provide for my family which right now has become a
self-fulfulling prophecy. I feel frozen. Completely afraid to go out
into the world and even attempt to look for a job. The 90's were
really good to me as there were to many people I guess. I felt like
I was on top of the world and we were able to build a home that though
many would think it was just a generic track-home, in my eyes it is my
dream home, something I never ever in my wildest dreams did I ever
think I would have. Now however I feel like I sink more every day.
I hate life. I want to die. I want god to take me. This has
lasted for about a year and a half. Basically when I began losing my
clientele due to the cutbacks. My ego road largely on my ability to
make over $100 k a year. I know that many people don't even see that
and that I was fortunate and even spoiled in some respects to get that
for the time that I did.

As I said before I constantly get my feelings hurt by people. It's
usually by the snoot in the community that intentionally leaves us out
of a social gathering, or the arrogant guy that puts you down to make
himself feel better. Or because someone that I think likes me,
doesn't wave or appears to ignore me that day. Years ago when I was
attending college I went to two different therapists and the results
were the same. I don't think back then that I knew as much about
myself, but nevertheless, all these guys did was just listen to my
pathetic ramblings and then basically say "see you next week"...as I
walked out to the reception desk to pay my $100 a week. I shelled out
a lot of money having them just LISTEN to me. In my opinion that was
a damn rip off. They did nothing for me. No assignments no helpful
tools that I could use to change my behavioral thinking, no books to
read, NOTHING. It was complete *****.

My entire family (not my wife and kids, but my siblings and mother)
are on anti-depressants and most of them I guess have had success. I
on the other hand have tried Prozac (no change whatsoever), wellbutrin
(no change), Lexapro (not really much of a change), and now Zoloft
which I have only been on for 3 weeks. The lexapro I was on for 6
months but as I said no real change. I can't tell anything yet.
Lexapro was the only one that I tried to adjust the dosage with. I
went from 10 milligrams to 20. no change. I'm taking 100 Mg of
zoloft right now but as I said, nothing yet.
I desire so much to become hardened....to have a thick shell so that
people aren't able to hurt me so terribly or even at all. When they
know they can, they will. I want to become tough for once. THERE
HAS GOT TO BE A WAY TO ATTAIN THIS and I have a hard time believing
that a pill will do the job. I know I somehow have to get rid of the
baggage of my childhood but it is damn hard when not one of those
bullies ever fricken apologized for anything. I don't know how to
forgive someone who hasn't felt remorse for something they did to me
that was so cruel day after day. Even some of my teachers joined in,
which was particularly devistating. I was always so embarassed to
have girls (which I always had crushes on) witness these situations.
Part of my wants to find some of these people and put my gun to their
heads and pull the trigger until it clicks then reload and blow myself
away.

I am highly skeptical of the whole chemical imbalance thing in the
first place and feel like all of these medicines are quite
over-prescribed and that I as a 38 year old man should be able to just
get over it for hell sakes and get it together once and for all. I
feel like the anti-depressants say that I'm not responsible for my
behavior and massive insecurities and hurt feelings. And as I said I
don't have much faith in therapists.

I know this whole letter is completely pathetic. I have no need for
trolls or flamers to reinforce that I'm an idiot. I sincerely ask,
even plead for help from anyone out there that might steer me to some
literature or help of any kind to help me. I am so tired of being so
thin skinned, so tired of wondering what people are saying about me
when I know in the back of my mind they rarely have time to think of
me at all. I am tired of being such a burden on my wife, who I might
say is as solid as a rock. She is very even keeled. I take my anger
out on her, and on my children and it is completely not fair. I don't
abuse them physically. But when I'm hurting about something I yell at
them which I know is damaging alone. I don't think there is any
excuse for acting that way. That is why I feel like my kids would be
better without me sometimes. My Dad was much harder on me when I was
a child. I had a whipping every day as my dad had an awful temper. He
was sort of a jeckle and hide though. He also was a very loving and
compassionate and affectionate man and I love him dearly to this day.
I have forgiven him years ago and pray that he knows that I ask him to
forgive me for fighting back as I became a teenager.

I know this letter has been long and I know it's sounds so wimpy. If
you think you truly can help me and not flame, please post a reply.

Thank you in advance. I am desperate.
.

User: "Nathan Stehle"

Title: Re: Please Help me 10 Jan 2004 04:43:51 PM
First of all, welcome to asd. {{{{{Aguy}}}}} I hope you find the support
here that you need.
Many of the feelings you have expressed are things I have experienced myself
at one time or another.
To me, it sounds like you are dealing with depression. It is not something
you just "get over". Anyone who tells you that is trivializing depression.
In regards to therapy, if you had therapists like that, then I completely
understand that you are skeptical. But therapy has worked for me, and it
has helped me on the road to recovery. I have been blessed with therapists
who were committed to helping me get better and had definite plans. A good
therapist will come up with a plan and their goal is to help you and give
you the skills to cope so that you do not need continual therapy and can
stop going eventually.
The chemical imbalance thing is not a scam....but they do not know as much
about the chemistry of the brain as they do other parts of the body. It is
much like any other sort of imbalance and can be corrected. For me, I could
tell the difference before and after my meds. It took a good amount of work
and being in touch with myself and my body. It also took a good doctor and
a good psychiatrist for me. Patience is the key. As is the case with many
medications, not all anti-depressants work for all people, if not more so.
For me, it took about two months and increasing the dosage gradually for me
to get where I needed to be. These things are over-prescribed, and there
are doctors who hand them out for the wrong reasons.
Basically, I was not afraid to try things in my efforts to get better. I
had nothing to lose and was desperate. And it time, things got better.
I've learned to trust myself and can now handle things much better than
before.
Old hurts do not go away easily, but then can with time and healing. I hope
you find some healing for yourself and your family.
--
"Nothing contributes so much to tranquility of the mind as a steady purpose
- a point to which the soul may fix its intellectual eye."
Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley
.

User: "Flashfire"

Title: Re: Please Help me 10 Jan 2004 03:35:39 PM
I was long, but I am glad you wrote it and I got the chance to read it.
Unfortunately I dont have any answers for you, except say welcome to ASD.
Nearly everyone here can relate to what you feel. There are a lot of caring
and supportive people here.
--
Regards Lee
~~
No one is compelled to serve great causes,
unless he feels fit for it.
Sir Winston Churchill
"Aguy" <utterlypathetic@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:cdb48530.0401100017.78a74be7@posting.google.com...

Hello

I am not sure if this is the correct place to post my message. I
need help and have no idea how to get it. I am a 38 year old male,
married to a wonderful woman who loves me and would do anything for
me. We have 4 children. My two oldest are girls, age 6, & age 4. My
Two boys are the youngest at age 23 months and age 11 months. My
family and I are a part of a Christian faith and attend fairly
regularly but I feel lonely and empty there even though I know I want
to be in this particular faith. I am a self-employed Computer
programmer that is currently out of work. My wife has ended up taking
a job in which she is able to bring in enough to make our house and
car payment. I on the other hand have become almost useless. She
basically spends most of her time trying to cheer my up and keep me
from committing suicide. I probably don't really want to commit
suicide. I just want to cease to exist.

My problems seem endless. I am extremely hypersensitive to people and
nearly beg for their friendship when I first meet them. We have many
good friends that do enjoy being with us and I know love us. I have a
complicated personality. I love to be the center of attention and to
make people laugh, which I am fairly good at as I have a knack with
humor, but absolutely am devastated when I think people are laughing
AT me or talking about me behind my back, which I think about all the
time. Weird huh?

When someone hurts my feelings I can spend all night long crying about
it. I feel like a complete baby that I am as old as I am, and a man
No less, and that I STILL act this way and have the same massive
insecurities and worries. I know a lot of it stems from my childhood
and again it's ridiculous but I still deeply hurt from the events that
happened to me. I know this is going to sound like a boo-hoo story,
but I don't know how else to explain it. We grew up in a small town
and we were extremely poor and backward. I had bucked-teeth and was
made fun of constantly from 1st grade until I graduated from high
school. Every single day of school I was terrified that I would get
beat up by the bullies that new I would cry or get my feelings hurt.
I never learned that it would have stopped if I just would have stood
up to 2 or 3 of them, even if I would have got my clock cleaned, they
would have left my alone after that. I also could never stop letting
it hurt me. As a result of this I still to this day rehears
incredibly embarrassing moments that happened years ago and play them
over and over in my mind and have murderous revengeful anger towards
these people. I now don't have to teeth problem anymore and I we
live in a slightly upper-middle class neighborhood so I don't feel
like I"m the poor boy. But I still feel backward as I never finished
my formal education and in the back of my mind I always just know that
people will find out the truth. That I am just a loser from a small
town that will eventually amount to nothing. zero. My self-esteem
now is affected by the fact that I'm 50 pounds overweight. I always
feel people see me as just the wimpy fat guy now. On top of this I
have massive panic attacks. I have been taking xanax and Klonipin
which have helped with those but not the overall problem.

The terrorist attacks and the economy have been incredibly
devastating. I have been an extremely worrier. The type the fears
the end of the world, earthquakes, tornadoes and other national
disasters, death of loved ones, and also the extreme fear of not being
able to provide for my family which right now has become a
self-fulfulling prophecy. I feel frozen. Completely afraid to go out
into the world and even attempt to look for a job. The 90's were
really good to me as there were to many people I guess. I felt like
I was on top of the world and we were able to build a home that though
many would think it was just a generic track-home, in my eyes it is my
dream home, something I never ever in my wildest dreams did I ever
think I would have. Now however I feel like I sink more every day.
I hate life. I want to die. I want god to take me. This has
lasted for about a year and a half. Basically when I began losing my
clientele due to the cutbacks. My ego road largely on my ability to
make over $100 k a year. I know that many people don't even see that
and that I was fortunate and even spoiled in some respects to get that
for the time that I did.

As I said before I constantly get my feelings hurt by people. It's
usually by the snoot in the community that intentionally leaves us out
of a social gathering, or the arrogant guy that puts you down to make
himself feel better. Or because someone that I think likes me,
doesn't wave or appears to ignore me that day. Years ago when I was
attending college I went to two different therapists and the results
were the same. I don't think back then that I knew as much about
myself, but nevertheless, all these guys did was just listen to my
pathetic ramblings and then basically say "see you next week"...as I
walked out to the reception desk to pay my $100 a week. I shelled out
a lot of money having them just LISTEN to me. In my opinion that was
a damn rip off. They did nothing for me. No assignments no helpful
tools that I could use to change my behavioral thinking, no books to
read, NOTHING. It was complete *****.

My entire family (not my wife and kids, but my siblings and mother)
are on anti-depressants and most of them I guess have had success. I
on the other hand have tried Prozac (no change whatsoever), wellbutrin
(no change), Lexapro (not really much of a change), and now Zoloft
which I have only been on for 3 weeks. The lexapro I was on for 6
months but as I said no real change. I can't tell anything yet.
Lexapro was the only one that I tried to adjust the dosage with. I
went from 10 milligrams to 20. no change. I'm taking 100 Mg of
zoloft right now but as I said, nothing yet.
I desire so much to become hardened....to have a thick shell so that
people aren't able to hurt me so terribly or even at all. When they
know they can, they will. I want to become tough for once. THERE
HAS GOT TO BE A WAY TO ATTAIN THIS and I have a hard time believing
that a pill will do the job. I know I somehow have to get rid of the
baggage of my childhood but it is damn hard when not one of those
bullies ever fricken apologized for anything. I don't know how to
forgive someone who hasn't felt remorse for something they did to me
that was so cruel day after day. Even some of my teachers joined in,
which was particularly devistating. I was always so embarassed to
have girls (which I always had crushes on) witness these situations.
Part of my wants to find some of these people and put my gun to their
heads and pull the trigger until it clicks then reload and blow myself
away.

I am highly skeptical of the whole chemical imbalance thing in the
first place and feel like all of these medicines are quite
over-prescribed and that I as a 38 year old man should be able to just
get over it for hell sakes and get it together once and for all. I
feel like the anti-depressants say that I'm not responsible for my
behavior and massive insecurities and hurt feelings. And as I said I
don't have much faith in therapists.

I know this whole letter is completely pathetic. I have no need for
trolls or flamers to reinforce that I'm an idiot. I sincerely ask,
even plead for help from anyone out there that might steer me to some
literature or help of any kind to help me. I am so tired of being so
thin skinned, so tired of wondering what people are saying about me
when I know in the back of my mind they rarely have time to think of
me at all. I am tired of being such a burden on my wife, who I might
say is as solid as a rock. She is very even keeled. I take my anger
out on her, and on my children and it is completely not fair. I don't
abuse them physically. But when I'm hurting about something I yell at
them which I know is damaging alone. I don't think there is any
excuse for acting that way. That is why I feel like my kids would be
better without me sometimes. My Dad was much harder on me when I was
a child. I had a whipping every day as my dad had an awful temper. He
was sort of a jeckle and hide though. He also was a very loving and
compassionate and affectionate man and I love him dearly to this day.
I have forgiven him years ago and pray that he knows that I ask him to
forgive me for fighting back as I became a teenager.

I know this letter has been long and I know it's sounds so wimpy. If
you think you truly can help me and not flame, please post a reply.

Thank you in advance. I am desperate.

.

User: "Janithor"

Title: Re: Please Help me 10 Jan 2004 04:05:18 AM
x-no-archive: yes
Aguy wrote:

Hello

I am not sure if this is the correct place to post my message. I
need help and have no idea how to get it. I am a 38 year old male,
married to a wonderful woman who loves me and would do anything for
me. We have 4 children. My two oldest are girls, age 6, & age 4. My
Two boys are the youngest at age 23 months and age 11 months. My
family and I are a part of a Christian faith and attend fairly
regularly but I feel lonely and empty there even though I know I want
to be in this particular faith. I am a self-employed Computer
programmer that is currently out of work. My wife has ended up taking
a job in which she is able to bring in enough to make our house and
car payment. I on the other hand have become almost useless. She
basically spends most of her time trying to cheer my up and keep me
from committing suicide. I probably don't really want to commit
suicide. I just want to cease to exist.

My problems seem endless. I am extremely hypersensitive to people and
nearly beg for their friendship when I first meet them. We have many
good friends that do enjoy being with us and I know love us. I have a
complicated personality. I love to be the center of attention and to
make people laugh, which I am fairly good at as I have a knack with
humor, but absolutely am devastated when I think people are laughing
AT me or talking about me behind my back, which I think about all the
time. Weird huh?

Not that weird, everyone wants to be liked. And everyone wants to feel
important.

When someone hurts my feelings I can spend all night long crying about
it. I feel like a complete baby that I am as old as I am, and a man
No less, and that I STILL act this way and have the same massive
insecurities and worries. I know a lot of it stems from my childhood
and again it's ridiculous but I still deeply hurt from the events that
happened to me. I know this is going to sound like a boo-hoo story,
but I don't know how else to explain it. We grew up in a small town
and we were extremely poor and backward. I had bucked-teeth and was
made fun of constantly from 1st grade until I graduated from high
school. Every single day of school I was terrified that I would get
beat up by the bullies that new I would cry or get my feelings hurt.
I never learned that it would have stopped if I just would have stood
up to 2 or 3 of them, even if I would have got my clock cleaned, they
would have left my alone after that. I also could never stop letting
it hurt me. As a result of this I still to this day rehears
incredibly embarrassing moments that happened years ago and play them
over and over in my mind and have murderous revengeful anger towards
these people.

Yeah, I know what this is like. Every now and then I can replay the
past and get all worked up. I certainly have no love and no desire to
meet any of the people again from my unpleasant past.

I now don't have to teeth problem anymore and I we
live in a slightly upper-middle class neighborhood so I don't feel
like I"m the poor boy. But I still feel backward as I never finished
my formal education and in the back of my mind I always just know that
people will find out the truth. That I am just a loser from a small
town that will eventually amount to nothing. zero. My self-esteem
now is affected by the fact that I'm 50 pounds overweight. I always
feel people see me as just the wimpy fat guy now. On top of this I
have massive panic attacks. I have been taking xanax and Klonipin
which have helped with those but not the overall problem.

I can only speak to the thought process you're expressing. If there's
more to it, I don't know.
In a way, you suffer from having too high self-esteem. It's a combo of
high self-esteem and low-esteem at the same time. Simply put, you're
not that important. Once you accept this, you can deal better with the
slights you experience. Everyone gets ***** on at some point, it's
called life. Deal with it. You're not unique. 99.9999999999999999% of
the people on the planet could care less about you or your life. Not
that they want bad things to happen to you, it's just that you're one of
over 6,000,000,000 people on the planet.

The terrorist attacks and the economy have been incredibly
devastating. I have been an extremely worrier. The type the fears
the end of the world, earthquakes, tornadoes and other national
disasters, death of loved ones, and also the extreme fear of not being
able to provide for my family which right now has become a
self-fulfulling prophecy. I feel frozen. Completely afraid to go out
into the world and even attempt to look for a job. The 90's were
really good to me as there were to many people I guess. I felt like
I was on top of the world and we were able to build a home that though
many would think it was just a generic track-home, in my eyes it is my
dream home, something I never ever in my wildest dreams did I ever
think I would have. Now however I feel like I sink more every day.
I hate life. I want to die. I want god to take me. This has
lasted for about a year and a half. Basically when I began losing my
clientele due to the cutbacks. My ego road largely on my ability to
make over $100 k a year. I know that many people don't even see that
and that I was fortunate and even spoiled in some respects to get that
for the time that I did.

As I said before I constantly get my feelings hurt by people. It's
usually by the snoot in the community that intentionally leaves us out
of a social gathering, or the arrogant guy that puts you down to make
himself feel better.

If you try to hang in the yuppie crowd, well, you shouldn't be surprised
when a tiger tries to bite you. That's what tigers do. I don't know if
this is the crowd you're hanging in, but people are generally
predictable. Each group has its own rules and norms, violate those
rules/norms, and you're going to get goofed on. Another option is to
ignore that group and find a different group.

Or because someone that I think likes me,
doesn't wave or appears to ignore me that day. Years ago when I was
attending college I went to two different therapists and the results
were the same. I don't think back then that I knew as much about
myself, but nevertheless, all these guys did was just listen to my
pathetic ramblings and then basically say "see you next week"...as I
walked out to the reception desk to pay my $100 a week. I shelled out
a lot of money having them just LISTEN to me. In my opinion that was
a damn rip off. They did nothing for me. No assignments no helpful
tools that I could use to change my behavioral thinking, no books to
read, NOTHING. It was complete *****.

Yes, that was my experience as well. It is *****. You're not
insane. The answer is to learn to rely on yourself and not on others.
Trust your gut, and read everything you can to learn how to figure
things out on your own. What is the process by which truth is
discovered? Once you find you can trust yourself and your own instincts
and your own knowledge set, you will be greatly empowered. You will
cease to be pushed around by other people who's agenda is not the same
as yours, people who use your weakness and your insecurity to their own end.

My entire family (not my wife and kids, but my siblings and mother)
are on anti-depressants and most of them I guess have had success. I
on the other hand have tried Prozac (no change whatsoever), wellbutrin
(no change), Lexapro (not really much of a change), and now Zoloft
which I have only been on for 3 weeks. The lexapro I was on for 6
months but as I said no real change. I can't tell anything yet.
Lexapro was the only one that I tried to adjust the dosage with. I
went from 10 milligrams to 20. no change. I'm taking 100 Mg of
zoloft right now but as I said, nothing yet.
I desire so much to become hardened....to have a thick shell so that
people aren't able to hurt me so terribly or even at all. When they
know they can, they will. I want to become tough for once. THERE
HAS GOT TO BE A WAY TO ATTAIN THIS and I have a hard time believing
that a pill will do the job.

Knowledge helps. Depend on yourself, nobody has your own best interests
at heart like you do. Stop deluding yourself. Be brutally honest with
yourself. Deal with reality.

I know I somehow have to get rid of the
baggage of my childhood but it is damn hard when not one of those
bullies ever fricken apologized for anything.

Hitler murdered 9,000,000 people because they did not fit his definition
of what a human being should be. He had a lot of people helping him do
this. Deal with reality. Assholes will always exist. Deal with it,
move on.

I don't know how to
forgive someone who hasn't felt remorse for something they did to me
that was so cruel day after day.

Because you have no choice. Is what you're doing now effective?

Even some of my teachers joined in,
which was particularly devistating. I was always so embarassed to
have girls (which I always had crushes on) witness these situations.
Part of my wants to find some of these people and put my gun to their
heads and pull the trigger until it clicks then reload and blow myself
away.

I've had those thoughts too. Klebold and Harris did too. They're dead.
I'm alive, so are you, and we both have wives. I'd rather be me than
either of those 2. You have kids, I'd love to have kids. You're pretty
damn lucky IMO.

I am highly skeptical of the whole chemical imbalance thing in the
first place and feel like all of these medicines are quite
over-prescribed and that I as a 38 year old man should be able to just
get over it for hell sakes and get it together once and for all. I
feel like the anti-depressants say that I'm not responsible for my
behavior and massive insecurities and hurt feelings. And as I said I
don't have much faith in therapists.

If you have problems biologically, you nevertheless have problems in
your thought processes.

I know this whole letter is completely pathetic. I have no need for
trolls or flamers to reinforce that I'm an idiot. I sincerely ask,
even plead for help from anyone out there that might steer me to some
literature or help of any kind to help me. I am so tired of being so
thin skinned,

So stop it.

so tired of wondering what people are saying about me
when I know in the back of my mind they rarely have time to think of
me at all. I am tired of being such a burden on my wife, who I might
say is as solid as a rock. She is very even keeled. I take my anger
out on her, and on my children and it is completely not fair. I don't
abuse them physically. But when I'm hurting about something I yell at
them which I know is damaging alone. I don't think there is any
excuse for acting that way. That is why I feel like my kids would be
better without me sometimes. My Dad was much harder on me when I was
a child. I had a whipping every day as my dad had an awful temper.

ah, new and important information. I think a *GOOD* therapist might be
helpful. Hard to find. All this is just my opinion, of course.

He was sort of a jeckle and hide though. He also was a very loving and
compassionate and affectionate man and I love him dearly to this day.
I have forgiven him years ago and pray that he knows that I ask him to
forgive me for fighting back as I became a teenager.

I know this letter has been long and I know it's sounds so wimpy. If
you think you truly can help me and not flame, please post a reply.

Thank you in advance. I am desperate.

No, it doesn't sound wimpy. The question is whether or not you truly
want to want to change, or if you just want to ***** endlessly. I'm not
going to slam you for bitching, don't get me wrong. But at some point,
you have to actually take action and change. Some people really don't
want to do this deep down. You'll change when you get sick and tired of
getting sick and tired. Until then, you'll gripe, you'll pay your
$125/45 minutes while drinking tea in a plastic cup and blabbing to a
shrink, and you'll get one year older and still nothing changes.
.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Please Help me 10 Jan 2004 05:47:22 AM
Dear Aguy,
Can't add much really to what Janithor wrote. Just wanted to say though if you
are fragil you need to learn to accept it and then learn how to cope with it
rather than change your being.
If you wish sometimes to hurt others as you said, you are angry. Find someway
to let the anger out (not on family) that is constructive.
And last, it is important to self-esteem to work. If you must go to work for
someone else doing your computer programing, then do it. It will help your
self-esteem.
Good luck
Rosena
.
User: "Aguy"

Title: Re: Please Help me 10 Jan 2004 11:35:31 AM
Rosena,
Thanks for the reply. This is frustrating however. I don't have a
regular newsreader and I'm just using google to post via their web
interface and didn't realize that I had posted my letter at the end of
an enormouse thread, thinking that I was creating a new one. Also, I
can't see the message in google that your are referring to from
"Janithor"
I hope nobody gets upset with me but i'm going to repost to a new
thread, so that I'll get as many repsonses as possible, and also
persue getting set up on a real newsserver with a real newsreader.
At any rate, back to your message. What suggestions do you have
regarding ways to let out my anger in a constructive way. Just
curious.
And, how does one "cope" with being so fragile? I hate being this
way.
trishamolson@aol.com (Trishamolson) wrote in message news:<20040110064722.11565.00001493@mb-m25.aol.com>...

Dear Aguy,

Can't add much really to what Janithor wrote. Just wanted to say though if you
are fragil you need to learn to accept it and then learn how to cope with it
rather than change your being.

If you wish sometimes to hurt others as you said, you are angry. Find someway
to let the anger out (not on family) that is constructive.

And last, it is important to self-esteem to work. If you must go to work for
someone else doing your computer programing, then do it. It will help your
self-esteem.

Good luck

Rosena

.
User: "Trishamolson"

Title: Re: Please Help me 11 Jan 2004 04:52:18 PM

What suggestions do you have
regarding ways to let out my anger in a constructive way.

Say something calm when you are angry rather than holding it in to just explode
later.
If you boil and know the anger is going to spill, **walk away** from the person
or child and go outside immediately.
Write your anger out -- ASD is a good place for that.

And, how does one "cope" with being so fragile? I hate being this >way.

Takes much thought and balance. On one hand, you must work to develop tougher
skin. On the other hand, you must love who you are as a being, and that is
frail.
You probably have two ways to cope. One is to not put yourself in a situation
where you might get deeply pricked. This could mean, however, isolating
yourself and learning to enjoy your own company. Tall order.
Second, you could choose very selectively when you will throw yourself in the
fire so to speak (going to a social) and know that you are ready inside, and if
you get hurt, you will have a day of rest after to deal with it inside. In
short, do X and Y a bit, but not
too much.
I have done both of these things and it has helped much.
Rosena
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User: "Aguy"

Title: Re: Please Help me 12 Jan 2004 02:44:25 PM
Thanks for the advice... I have subcribed to a new newsgroup service
and I still can't see the message that you said "Janithor" wrote to
me. I am extremely curiuos as to the content. If you can see the
message, could you email me the post to my email address? Thanks
again.
.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: Please Help me 12 Jan 2004 05:50:47 PM
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:44:25 -0800,
(Aguy)
wrote:

Thanks for the advice... I have subcribed to a new newsgroup service and
I still can't see the message that you said "Janithor" wrote to me. I am
extremely curiuos as to the content. If you can see the message, could
you email me the post to my email address? Thanks again.

You'll never see Janithor's posts in Google Groups (or several other
ASDers'). See <http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/help.html#prevent>.
What news-service have you subscribed to and how do you access it? Someone
here can probably help you to get sorted so that you can see all the
articles. (Most people also prefer to 'post' using the same software etc
as they use to read newsgroups. Google is pretty clumsy for general use).
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
.
User: "Aguy"

Title: Re: Please Help me 13 Jan 2004 09:50:47 PM
Athenanews.com is what I subscribed to as a quick interum until I am
registered with the free service you suggested. I haven't heard back
from them yet. I access Athenanews by just using outlook express.
The problem that I've noticed on athena is either I'm doing something
wrong or their messages don't stay on their servier for very long as
there were only something like 1200 messages and I Clicked on
"Download next 1000 messages" over and over again just to make sure.
Could it be that outlook is the wrong tool (I have Forte's Agent but
don't have it installed presently), or could it just be that that's
how it works with athena? Any suggestions? Thanks for your help.
-Rick

What news-service have you subscribed to and how do you access it? Someone
here can probably help you to get sorted so that you can see all the
articles. (Most people also prefer to 'post' using the same software etc
as they use to read newsgroups. Google is pretty clumsy for general use).

.
User: "Whiskers"

Title: Re: Please Help me 14 Jan 2004 03:55:20 PM
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:50:47 -0800,
(Aguy)
wrote:

Athenanews.com is what I subscribed to as a quick interum until I am
registered with the free service you suggested. I haven't heard back from
them yet.

They usually reply in a few days.

I access Athenanews by just using outlook express.

That's a program many people use although it's far from being the 'best';
Athenanews do recommend either that or Forte Agent, in their FAQ, so there
shouldn't be any problems. (Forte Agent isn't free; the free version,
Free Agent, is rather limited).

The problem
that I've noticed on athena is either I'm doing something wrong or their
messages don't stay on their servier for very long as there were only
something like 1200 messages and I Clicked on "Download next 1000
messages" over and over again just to make sure. Could it be that outlook
is the wrong tool (I have Forte's Agent but don't have it installed
presently), or could it just be that that's how it works with athena? Any
suggestions? Thanks for your help. -Rick

Judging from their website, Athenanews concentrate on 'binary' newsgroups
(where people post computer programs, music, pictures, movies, etc) which
use up a huge amount of 'bandwidth' and storage space. The 'retention'
for such groups is normally quite short (a few days at most) simply to
keep the costs within bounds. Perhaps Athenanews apply the same
'retention policy' to the text groups they carry?
Text-only news service providers, such as individual.net, typically carry
several weeks or even months of articles. (Only 'archives' such as Google
Groups, carry any articles indefinitely).
--
-- ^^^^^^^^^^ Interested in Citroens?
-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
.









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