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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "Noon Cat Nick"
Date: 01 Oct 2004 12:19:04 PM
Object: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against"
from _The Onion_, http://www.theonion.com/election2004/news_4022.php
WASHINGTON, DC--According to Gallup Poll results released Monday, 6
percent of Americans are still undecided about whether to vote against
President Bush or Democratic challenger John Kerry in November's
presidential election.

"At first, I was really leaning toward voting against Kerry, because the
way he tried to hide his ambivalence about his military service made him
seem like a political operator," poll participant and Trenton, NJ
resident Amber Barthelme said. "But then, the Bush Administration's
mishandling of the Iraqi prisoner-abuse scandal got me thinking that
there's a lot to not like about the current administration. It's almost
impossible to decide which side I don't want to be on."
According to the poll, 46 percent of the registered voters surveyed
would vote against Bush if the election were held tomorrow, while 45
percent said they were ready to vote against Kerry. Factoring in the 2
percent margin of error, the two candidates are essentially deadlocked
in the race to determine which candidate America doesn't support.
Researcher Jack Harmon, an analyst for the independent Beltway think
tank the Dewey-Markham Institute, said these undecided Americans will be
crucial in deciding the next election.
"As the messy occupation of Iraq drags on, Bush's approval rating
continues to drop, strengthening the position of the anti-Bush voting
bloc," Harmon said. "This trend is offset by the Bush camp's $80 million
anti-Kerry ad campaign, which has cemented anti-Kerry sentiment in
several key swing states. As the election approaches, it's becoming more
and more difficult to determine the likely loser."
Harmon said voters are conflicted, wanting to cast environmental and
antiwar votes against Bush, but wishing also to oppose Kerry's position
on taxation.
"The two major parties face a tough struggle," Harmon said. "As the
election approaches, both must convince undecided voters that the
opposing party's candidate is worse than their own. As both parties take
more moderate positions in an election year, it's getting harder to
convince citizens that there's a reason to get out there and vote
against anyone."
Brad Thomas, a Louisiana machinist, is one of many Americans who have
yet to decide whom they'll vote against.
"I'd like to say I'm against Bush because he lied about weapons of mass
destruction," Thomas said. "On the other hand, Kerry's lack of
substantive positions really disgusts me, as well."
Tina Schalek, a Branson, MO theater manager, said she is also undecided.
"John Kerry's only virtue is that he hasn't been in a position to make
any major mistakes," Schalek said. "On the other hand, I hate Bush's
views on abortion. My only consolation is that a vote against either
candidate is a vote against Nader."
In spite of such ambivalence among swing voters, surveys reveal that the
majority of Americans have determined which candidate they will vote against.
"It's time to trim the Bush from the White House," Akron, OH resident
Doug Hamm said. "In 2004, it's time for Bush to get bushwhacked!"
Pressed to elaborate on his views, Hamm said, "To be honest, Kerry could
be a guy with a paper bag over his head, for all I care. I'd vote for
anybody as long as he wasn't Bush."
Karla Barr of Chicago had similarly strong opinions about Kerry.
"Kerry is a wishy-washy flip-flopper, changing his tune every time the
wind blows," Barr said, repeating a phrase she'd heard on "The Rush
Limbaugh Show." "Can I trust a man who can't make up his mind about
Communism? I don't think so."
Added Barr: "We have to remember how close the 2000 election was, when
we voted against Gore. Actually, to be fair, when I voted against Gore,
I was voting against Clinton."
.

User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 03 Oct 2004 03:22:21 AM
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <hnhul09kqdbdqrcsu7h4g8r82f95jdjuif@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes

I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.


An Irish friend told me it was the norm in elections there, along with
voting early and often.

mmm, maybe CyberDroog thinks that Kerry will win Oregon?
Thomas
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User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 03 Oct 2004 02:07:59 AM
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"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700,

(alvintchase) wrote:

"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...

I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!


Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.


I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.

And once again soldiers who are fulfilling their duty overseas
will vote for Bush without ever seeing a ballot. :->>>
Thomas
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 03 Oct 2004 04:32:06 AM
On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 09:07:59 +0200, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700,

(alvintchase) wrote:

"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...

I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!


Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.


I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.


And once again soldiers who are fulfilling their duty overseas
will vote for Bush without ever seeing a ballot. :->>>

How can we know? Democrats don't like to count the ballots of servicemen.
In Wisconsin there is a problem with Dems - college activist groups in
particular - registering people other than themselves. They are also
getting jobs at the polls and convieniently forgetting to ask for
identification.
--
ADMIRATION, n. Our polite recognition of another's resemblance to
ourselves.
- Ambrose Bierce
.
User: "Thomas Dehn"

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 03 Oct 2004 04:04:32 PM
"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On Sun, 3 Oct 2004 09:07:59 +0200, "Thomas Dehn" <thomas-usenet@arcor.de>
wrote:

"CyberDroog" <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:

On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700,

(alvintchase) wrote:

"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...

I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!


Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.


I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.


And once again soldiers who are fulfilling their duty overseas
will vote for Bush without ever seeing a ballot. :->>>


How can we know?

Hard to "know" such things. But it is suspicious if absentee
ballots voting for Bush get 'signed' by local republicans,
rather than before being submitted.
Thomas
.



User: "=^.^="

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 02 Oct 2004 02:34:55 AM
On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 21:49:45 -0400, "Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking =

chimp!
sulking chimp, when off camera. not at a Bush rally...
I suppose someone who can throw good could sneak
in with a couple of eggs and ruin his fucken day good
.

User: "Thad the man"

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 05 Oct 2004 11:22:48 PM
It's a shame that people are voting against some one instead of for
someone.
.
User: "CyberDroog"

Title: Re: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" 06 Oct 2004 03:28:39 AM
On Tue, 05 Oct 2004 23:22:48 -0500, "Thad the man (me@privacy.net)"
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

It's a shame that people are voting against some one instead of for
someone.

Yes it is. It must be a painful realization for a person to figure out
that they have nothing in common with anyone. So many whackaloon special
interests combined under each parties banner, but very few truly unifying
ideals.
That's what comes of a political system which is based on hiring someone to
pick your neighbors pocket. Most people, no matter how dense they may be,
eventually figure out, even if only on a subconscious level, that they have
pockets also, and their neighbors too can vote.
What it really comes down to is really only having the right to choose what
brand of lubrication will be used when you are gang raped.
--
You don't have to buy from anyone. You don't have to work at any
particular job. You don't have to participate in any given relationship.
You can choose.
- Harry Browne
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