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"Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against" |
from _The Onion_, http://www.theonion.com/election2004/news_4022.php
WASHINGTON, DC--According to Gallup Poll results released Monday, 6
percent of Americans are still undecided about whether to vote against
President Bush or Democratic challenger John Kerry in November's
presidential election.
"At first, I was really leaning toward voting against Kerry, because the
way he tried to hide his ambivalence about his military service made him
seem like a political operator," poll participant and Trenton, NJ
resident Amber Barthelme said. "But then, the Bush Administration's
mishandling of the Iraqi prisoner-abuse scandal got me thinking that
there's a lot to not like about the current administration. It's almost
impossible to decide which side I don't want to be on."
According to the poll, 46 percent of the registered voters surveyed
would vote against Bush if the election were held tomorrow, while 45
percent said they were ready to vote against Kerry. Factoring in the 2
percent margin of error, the two candidates are essentially deadlocked
in the race to determine which candidate America doesn't support.
Researcher Jack Harmon, an analyst for the independent Beltway think
tank the Dewey-Markham Institute, said these undecided Americans will be
crucial in deciding the next election.
"As the messy occupation of Iraq drags on, Bush's approval rating
continues to drop, strengthening the position of the anti-Bush voting
bloc," Harmon said. "This trend is offset by the Bush camp's $80 million
anti-Kerry ad campaign, which has cemented anti-Kerry sentiment in
several key swing states. As the election approaches, it's becoming more
and more difficult to determine the likely loser."
Harmon said voters are conflicted, wanting to cast environmental and
antiwar votes against Bush, but wishing also to oppose Kerry's position
on taxation.
"The two major parties face a tough struggle," Harmon said. "As the
election approaches, both must convince undecided voters that the
opposing party's candidate is worse than their own. As both parties take
more moderate positions in an election year, it's getting harder to
convince citizens that there's a reason to get out there and vote
against anyone."
Brad Thomas, a Louisiana machinist, is one of many Americans who have
yet to decide whom they'll vote against.
"I'd like to say I'm against Bush because he lied about weapons of mass
destruction," Thomas said. "On the other hand, Kerry's lack of
substantive positions really disgusts me, as well."
Tina Schalek, a Branson, MO theater manager, said she is also undecided.
"John Kerry's only virtue is that he hasn't been in a position to make
any major mistakes," Schalek said. "On the other hand, I hate Bush's
views on abortion. My only consolation is that a vote against either
candidate is a vote against Nader."
In spite of such ambivalence among swing voters, surveys reveal that the
majority of Americans have determined which candidate they will vote against.
"It's time to trim the Bush from the White House," Akron, OH resident
Doug Hamm said. "In 2004, it's time for Bush to get bushwhacked!"
Pressed to elaborate on his views, Hamm said, "To be honest, Kerry could
be a guy with a paper bag over his head, for all I care. I'd vote for
anybody as long as he wasn't Bush."
Karla Barr of Chicago had similarly strong opinions about Kerry.
"Kerry is a wishy-washy flip-flopper, changing his tune every time the
wind blows," Barr said, repeating a phrase she'd heard on "The Rush
Limbaugh Show." "Can I trust a man who can't make up his mind about
Communism? I don't think so."
Added Barr: "We have to remember how close the 2000 election was, when
we voted against Gore. Actually, to be fair, when I voted against Gore,
I was voting against Clinton."
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01 Oct 2004 02:45:03 PM |
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Subject: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against"
From: Noon Cat Nick
How can you not vote for Kerry!
Bush has in war that we never should have been, there are more children and
Famlies in poverty than ever! more homeless people
he cut funds for police, fire dept, education, head start, environment, has
tired to take away a women's right to choose, has seriously eroded are rights
w/the Patriotic Act
and that's only a few things, there are so many more
the real axis of evil; Bush, Cheney, & Ashcorft
ensoul - who fears for her country if Dubya is re-elected
....that whenever any Form of Govt. becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the
right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and institute new Govt...it is
their Right, and their Duty, to throw of such Government
~Thomas Jefferson
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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02 Oct 2004 01:09:24 AM |
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In message <20041001154503.18077.00004516@mb-m03.aol.com>, Ensoul100
<ensoul100@aol.com> writes
Subject: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against"
From: Noon Cat Nick
How can you not vote for Kerry!
Bush has in war that we never should have been, there are more children and
Famlies in poverty than ever! more homeless people
he cut funds for police, fire dept, education, head start, environment, has
tired to take away a women's right to choose, has seriously eroded are rights
w/the Patriotic Act
and that's only a few things, there are so many more
the real axis of evil; Bush, Cheney, & Ashcorft
ensoul - who fears for her country if Dubya is re-elected
Consider the source. I keep forgetting to read The Onion, a
mealy-mouthed, colonial version of The Rockall Times. ;)
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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02 Oct 2004 02:43:30 AM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
Consider the source. I keep forgetting to read The Onion, a
mealy-mouthed, colonial version of The Rockall Times. ;)
Which itself is a limp-noodled Anglomaniacal knock-off of the stuff not
good enough to be published in _The Onion_ in the first place. :P
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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01 Oct 2004 04:19:44 PM |
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On 01 Oct 2004 19:45:03 GMT, (Ensoul100) wrote:
Subject: "Poll: Many Americans Still Unsure Whom To Vote Against"
From: Noon Cat Nick
How can you not vote for Kerry!
Did you miss the humor?
Bush has in war that we never should have been, there are more children and
Famlies in poverty than ever! more homeless people
he cut funds for police, fire dept, education, head start, environment, has
tired to take away a women's right to choose, has seriously eroded are rights
w/the Patriotic Act
How did Kerry and Edwards vote vis a vis the Patriot Act? Oops...
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LAWYER, n. One skilled in circumvention of the law.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Lisa" |
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01 Oct 2004 08:49:45 PM |
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I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
"Noon Cat Nick" <chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote in message
news:415D9188.9898EE60@catlover.com...
from _The Onion_, http://www.theonion.com/election2004/news_4022.php
WASHINGTON, DC--According to Gallup Poll results released Monday, 6
percent of Americans are still undecided about whether to vote against
President Bush or Democratic challenger John Kerry in November's
presidential election.
"At first, I was really leaning toward voting against Kerry, because the
way he tried to hide his ambivalence about his military service made him
seem like a political operator," poll participant and Trenton, NJ
resident Amber Barthelme said. "But then, the Bush Administration's
mishandling of the Iraqi prisoner-abuse scandal got me thinking that
there's a lot to not like about the current administration. It's almost
impossible to decide which side I don't want to be on."
According to the poll, 46 percent of the registered voters surveyed
would vote against Bush if the election were held tomorrow, while 45
percent said they were ready to vote against Kerry. Factoring in the 2
percent margin of error, the two candidates are essentially deadlocked
in the race to determine which candidate America doesn't support.
Researcher Jack Harmon, an analyst for the independent Beltway think
tank the Dewey-Markham Institute, said these undecided Americans will be
crucial in deciding the next election.
"As the messy occupation of Iraq drags on, Bush's approval rating
continues to drop, strengthening the position of the anti-Bush voting
bloc," Harmon said. "This trend is offset by the Bush camp's $80 million
anti-Kerry ad campaign, which has cemented anti-Kerry sentiment in
several key swing states. As the election approaches, it's becoming more
and more difficult to determine the likely loser."
Harmon said voters are conflicted, wanting to cast environmental and
antiwar votes against Bush, but wishing also to oppose Kerry's position
on taxation.
"The two major parties face a tough struggle," Harmon said. "As the
election approaches, both must convince undecided voters that the
opposing party's candidate is worse than their own. As both parties take
more moderate positions in an election year, it's getting harder to
convince citizens that there's a reason to get out there and vote
against anyone."
Brad Thomas, a Louisiana machinist, is one of many Americans who have
yet to decide whom they'll vote against.
"I'd like to say I'm against Bush because he lied about weapons of mass
destruction," Thomas said. "On the other hand, Kerry's lack of
substantive positions really disgusts me, as well."
Tina Schalek, a Branson, MO theater manager, said she is also undecided.
"John Kerry's only virtue is that he hasn't been in a position to make
any major mistakes," Schalek said. "On the other hand, I hate Bush's
views on abortion. My only consolation is that a vote against either
candidate is a vote against Nader."
In spite of such ambivalence among swing voters, surveys reveal that the
majority of Americans have determined which candidate they will vote
against.
"It's time to trim the Bush from the White House," Akron, OH resident
Doug Hamm said. "In 2004, it's time for Bush to get bushwhacked!"
Pressed to elaborate on his views, Hamm said, "To be honest, Kerry could
be a guy with a paper bag over his head, for all I care. I'd vote for
anybody as long as he wasn't Bush."
Karla Barr of Chicago had similarly strong opinions about Kerry.
"Kerry is a wishy-washy flip-flopper, changing his tune every time the
wind blows," Barr said, repeating a phrase she'd heard on "The Rush
Limbaugh Show." "Can I trust a man who can't make up his mind about
Communism? I don't think so."
Added Barr: "We have to remember how close the 2000 election was, when
we voted against Gore. Actually, to be fair, when I voted against Gore,
I was voting against Clinton."
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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02 Oct 2004 11:57:30 AM |
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"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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02 Oct 2004 07:26:45 PM |
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On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.
I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.
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I love deadlines. I love the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
- Douglas Adams
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| User: "Noon Cat Nick" |
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03 Oct 2004 12:17:09 AM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.
I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.
Since few, if any, dead persons ever voted for Kerry in any previous
election ever held anywhere, that just might happen.
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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03 Oct 2004 02:47:16 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:17:09 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.
I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.
Since few, if any, dead persons ever voted for Kerry in any previous
election ever held anywhere, that just might happen.
God damned grammar cops... ;)
Hey wait... Kerry is a senator from Taxachusetts. He's definitely had dead
people vote for him.
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Man is not the creature of circumstances, circumstances are the creatures
of men. We are free agents, and man is more powerful than matter.
- Benjamin Disraeli
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| User: "wombn" |
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03 Oct 2004 03:27:39 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:47:16 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:17:09 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.
I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.
Since few, if any, dead persons ever voted for Kerry in any previous
election ever held anywhere, that just might happen.
God damned grammar cops... ;)
Hey wait... Kerry is a senator from Taxachusetts. He's definitely had dead
people vote for him.
all these rich people who protest cut their own taxes, why don't they
simply not take all the deductions and loopholes?? Are they required
by law to take every last penny they can?? Why not make a bequest to
the govt upon their death? Is the IRS unable to accept gifts?
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And yet, somehow, I'm considered far right wing...
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=2.75&Y=0.46
This, otoh, is an extremist:
http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/questionnaire.pl?page=printable_graph&X=-8.62&Y=-7.64
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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03 Oct 2004 04:48:56 AM |
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On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:27:39 GMT, wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:47:16 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
Hey wait... Kerry is a senator from Taxachusetts. He's definitely had dead
people vote for him.
all these rich people who protest cut their own taxes, why don't they
simply not take all the deductions and loopholes?? Are they required
by law to take every last penny they can?? Why not make a bequest to
the govt upon their death? Is the IRS unable to accept gifts?
Interesting question. There is a fund, to which anyone can contribute,
geared towards paying down the national debt.
But some offers are even more obvious. The Massachusetts state tax forms
include an option that allows you to choose a higher tax rate; out of the
goodness of your heart I suppose. You can elect to voluntarily pay a 5.85%
rate as opposed to the usual 5.3% rate.
Take a wild guess as to whether or not John Kerry chose the higher rate...
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REPORTER, n. A writer who guesses his way to the truth and dispels it
with a tempest of words.
- Ambrose Bierce
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| User: "Janithor" |
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03 Oct 2004 04:57:59 AM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 08:27:39 GMT, wombn <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:47:16 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
Hey wait... Kerry is a senator from Taxachusetts. He's definitely had dead
people vote for him.
all these rich people who protest cut their own taxes, why don't they
simply not take all the deductions and loopholes?? Are they required
by law to take every last penny they can?? Why not make a bequest to
the govt upon their death? Is the IRS unable to accept gifts?
Interesting question. There is a fund, to which anyone can contribute,
geared towards paying down the national debt.
But some offers are even more obvious. The Massachusetts state tax forms
include an option that allows you to choose a higher tax rate; out of the
goodness of your heart I suppose. You can elect to voluntarily pay a 5.85%
rate as opposed to the usual 5.3% rate.
Take a wild guess as to whether or not John Kerry chose the higher rate...
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
Uh huh.
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03 Oct 2004 08:06:14 AM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Why would anyone contribute to any area into which
a shitload of money is already pouring in?
Do you know how much, say, Spielberg, donates any
year? How much of their own money do Bush, Rumsfeld,
Ashcroft and Rice give to the widows and children
of the soldiers who died in their Iraq adventure?
Thomas
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03 Oct 2004 04:32:08 PM |
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Thomas Dehn wrote:
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
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| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
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03 Oct 2004 03:44:56 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Thomas Dehn wrote:
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
you also think some other really far out stuff
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| User: "Thomas Dehn" |
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04 Oct 2004 12:33:15 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Thomas
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04 Oct 2004 03:29:30 PM |
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Thomas Dehn wrote:
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Thomas
Did you see the part about Larry King?
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04 Oct 2004 02:32:26 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4161B2AA.7030904@comcast.net...
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Thomas Dehn wrote:
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she
made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Thomas
Did you see the part about Larry King?
George Bush is going to win , it's already been decided
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05 Oct 2004 03:23:17 PM |
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% wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4161B2AA.7030904@comcast.net...
x-no-archive: yes
Thomas Dehn wrote:
x-no-archive: yes
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she
made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Thomas
Did you see the part about Larry King?
George Bush is going to win , it's already been decided
He won the coin toss? Or did they do paper/scissors/rock this time?
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Thomas Dehn wrote:
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she
made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood
up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to
donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds,
something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little
guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Thomas
Did you see the part about Larry King?
George Bush is going to win , it's already been decided
He won the coin toss? Or did they do paper/scissors/rock this time?
and ... was it consensual ?
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07 Oct 2004 02:50:22 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Did you see the part about Larry King?
You are sidestepping, yet again. What is the connection from
Larry King being a hypocrite to you calling Spielberg a "phony *****"
because he did not want to donate money to Rosie O'Donnell?
That would be no connection at all, yes?
Thomas
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07 Oct 2004 03:35:30 PM |
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Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the Goebbels
News Network.) I was really impressed with her interview, and she made
my stomach turn up that point. She talked about how after 9/11, she
tried to call all her Hollywood pals, including the ones that stood up
for that special for the 9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate
their own money. She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something
like that. They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards.
Yeah, Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Did you see the part about Larry King?
You are sidestepping, yet again. What is the connection from
Larry King being a hypocrite to you calling Spielberg a "phony *****"
because he did not want to donate money to Rosie O'Donnell?
That would be no connection at all, yes?
OK, let's try something else. See if you can think of a way that might
make sense as to a reason for why I called the Hollywood crowd phony.
Try your hardest, however ludicrous it may seem to you. Think outside
the box.
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08 Oct 2004 12:06:15 AM |
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In message <4165A892.1060709@comcast.net>, Janithor
<Janithor@comcast.net> writes
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the
Goebbels News Network.) I was really impressed with her
interview, and she made my stomach turn up that point. She
talked about how after 9/11, she tried to call all her Hollywood
pals, including the ones that stood up for that special for the
9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate their own money.
She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something like that.
They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards. Yeah,
Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Did you see the part about Larry King?
You are sidestepping, yet again. What is the connection from Larry
King being a hypocrite to you calling Spielberg a "phony *****"
because he did not want to donate money to Rosie O'Donnell?
That would be no connection at all, yes?
OK, let's try something else. See if you can think of a way that might
make sense as to a reason for why I called the Hollywood crowd phony.
Try your hardest, however ludicrous it may seem to you. Think outside
the box.
Why should he have to come up with a possible reason for your words,
when you're there to give the real reason?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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08 Oct 2004 03:10:30 PM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <4165A892.1060709@comcast.net>, Janithor
<Janithor@comcast.net> writes
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the
Goebbels News Network.) I was really impressed with her
interview, and she made my stomach turn up that point. She
talked about how after 9/11, she tried to call all her Hollywood
pals, including the ones that stood up for that special for the
9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate their own money.
She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something like that.
They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards. Yeah,
Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Did you see the part about Larry King?
You are sidestepping, yet again. What is the connection from Larry
King being a hypocrite to you calling Spielberg a "phony *****"
because he did not want to donate money to Rosie O'Donnell?
That would be no connection at all, yes?
OK, let's try something else. See if you can think of a way that
might make sense as to a reason for why I called the Hollywood crowd
phony. Try your hardest, however ludicrous it may seem to you. Think
outside the box.
Why should he have to come up with a possible reason for your words,
when you're there to give the real reason?
He's free to do whatever he wishes. That's why I said "let's try" - as
in, "we weren't making much headway with one direction, so let's try
another."
Either that, or I'll do anything for an argument. :-*
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08 Oct 2004 03:36:55 PM |
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"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <4165A892.1060709@comcast.net>, Janithor
<Janithor@comcast.net> writes
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Thomas Dehn wrote:
"Janithor" <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
I remember Rosie O'Donnell's interview on O'Reilley (on the
Goebbels News Network.) I was really impressed with her
interview, and she made my stomach turn up that point. She
talked about how after 9/11, she tried to call all her Hollywood
pals, including the ones that stood up for that special for the
9/11 victims, and tried to get them to donate their own money.
She committed $1,000,000 of her own funds, something like that.
They all said no. They are a bunch of phony bastards. Yeah,
Spielberg, Geffen, and Kerry really care about "the little guy".
You seem to think that people should contribute to
9/11 victims fonds, rather than somewhere else.
Nope, that's not what I think.
Then why do you call people who did not donate for
9/11 victims "phony bastards"?
Did you see the part about Larry King?
You are sidestepping, yet again. What is the connection from Larry
King being a hypocrite to you calling Spielberg a "phony *****"
because he did not want to donate money to Rosie O'Donnell?
That would be no connection at all, yes?
OK, let's try something else. See if you can think of a way that
might make sense as to a reason for why I called the Hollywood crowd
phony. Try your hardest, however ludicrous it may seem to you. Think
outside the box.
Why should he have to come up with a possible reason for your words,
when you're there to give the real reason?
He's free to do whatever he wishes. That's why I said "let's try" - as
in, "we weren't making much headway with one direction, so let's try
another."
Either that, or I'll do anything for an argument. :-*
noting in journal , one honest comment from Janithor
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09 Oct 2004 04:22:52 AM |
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On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:10:30 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Alan Harding wrote:
He's free to do whatever he wishes. That's why I said "let's try" - as
in, "we weren't making much headway with one direction, so let's try
another."
Either that, or I'll do anything for an argument. :-*
Okay, I'll try...
Some would say that Hollywood types are phonies in much the same way that
Christ suggested the rich men entering the temple are phonies. Both make a
show of how generous and charitable they are.
But let's face it. When the Hollywood elite give millions to some
charitable cause, they are still multi-millionaires afterward, and they get
notoriety to boot.
It reminds me of a few years back when Barbra Streisand was complaining
about the issue of homelessness. So she gave one of her *twelve* homes to
aid the cause. Wow... way to give till it hurts Babs...
Take a related, and even more obvious example. Many of the Hollywood elite
are known for railing against the use of fossil fuels. Yet they seem to
have a habit of showing up to events in limousines, and are known for
having private jets or, at the very least, flying first class.
I take a dim view of this only because of the hypocrisy. They have a right
to the money they earn, and they have the right to spend it as they please.
Now if only they would get off of *our* backs for doing the same.
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CONTEMPT, n. The feeling of a prudent man for an enemy who is too
formidable safely to be opposed.
- Ambrose Bierce
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09 Oct 2004 04:55:43 AM |
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CyberDroog wrote:
On Fri, 08 Oct 2004 20:10:30 GMT, Janithor <Janithor@comcast.net> wrote:
Alan Harding wrote:
He's free to do whatever he wishes. That's why I said "let's try" - as
in, "we weren't making much headway with one direction, so let's try
another."
Either that, or I'll do anything for an argument. :-*
Okay, I'll try...
Some would say that Hollywood types are phonies in much the same way that
Christ suggested the rich men entering the temple are phonies. Both make a
show of how generous and charitable they are.
But let's face it. When the Hollywood elite give millions to some
charitable cause, they are still multi-millionaires afterward, and they get
notoriety to boot.
It reminds me of a few years back when Barbra Streisand was complaining
about the issue of homelessness. So she gave one of her *twelve* homes to
aid the cause. Wow... way to give till it hurts Babs...
Take a related, and even more obvious example. Many of the Hollywood elite
are known for railing against the use of fossil fuels. Yet they seem to
have a habit of showing up to events in limousines, and are known for
having private jets or, at the very least, flying first class.
I take a dim view of this only because of the hypocrisy. They have a right
to the money they earn, and they have the right to spend it as they please.
Now if only they would get off of *our* backs for doing the same.
Ding ding ding, we have a winner, folks.
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09 Oct 2004 05:01:55 AM |
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hi honey i hope you answer me soon ,
my son is already bugging me to know ,
what kind of orgasm he was , a good'n er a badd'n
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03 Oct 2004 04:32:12 AM |
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wombn wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 07:47:16 GMT, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> wrote:
On Sun, 03 Oct 2004 05:17:09 GMT, Noon Cat Nick
<chatdemidiSPAMBEGONE@catlover.com> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote:
On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that way on Nov.2nd.
I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.
Since few, if any, dead persons ever voted for Kerry in any previous
election ever held anywhere, that just might happen.
God damned grammar cops... ;)
Hey wait... Kerry is a senator from Taxachusetts. He's definitely had dead
people vote for him.
all these rich people who protest cut their own taxes, why don't they
simply not take all the deductions and loopholes?? Are they required
by law to take every last penny they can?? Why not make a bequest to
the govt upon their death? Is the IRS unable to accept gifts?
I still remember listening to Larry King say on the radio how he'd be
willing to pay more in taxes because he is well off. Yes, the gov't
will gladly accept more money if you want to give it to them. I guess
Mr. King didn't realize this.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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03 Oct 2004 01:55:24 AM |
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In message <hnhul09kqdbdqrcsu7h4g8r82f95jdjuif@4ax.com>, CyberDroog
<CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On 2 Oct 2004 09:57:30 -0700, (alvintchase) wrote:
"Lisa" <lisafaz@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:<HOn7d.221154$%n4.192006@bignews6.bellsouth.net>...
I'm a proud American who plans on voting against Bush, that smirking chimp!
Hopefully more people then not who live in the U.S. will feel that
way on Nov.2nd.
I predict that more dead people will vote for Kerry than in any other
election in history.
An Irish friend told me it was the norm in elections there, along with
voting early and often. He may have been biased - he lived in England.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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