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"used2be" |
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19 Jul 2006 10:17:01 PM |
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post adoption depression... |
what will they think of next...
~u2b
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 05:37:23 AM |
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 07:58:14 AM |
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"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
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When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these new
labels for it? it's downright silly!
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 05:19:58 PM |
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
--
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these new
labels for it? it's downright silly!
I don't know if I was a "label" but I can tell you that I did have a bit of
a crash last summer.
I had just returned home with my daughter (an international adoption). I
was stuck in the house during a horrid heat wave.
She had surgery and needed a great deal of care at home. My girl was VERY
clinging I could not even put her down to go to the bathroom without her
screaming.
Also after the four year emotional rollercoaster of my journey to get her, I
was so exhausted it helped fuel my depression.
Keep in mind I am prone to depression anyway. I ended up going to a social
worker who works with newly adopted children and their new parents.
It helped muchly.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 06:15:27 PM |
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"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
--
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these
new labels for it? it's downright silly!
I don't know if I was a "label" but I can tell you that I did have a bit
of a crash last summer.
I had just returned home with my daughter (an international adoption). I
was stuck in the house during a horrid heat wave.
She had surgery and needed a great deal of care at home. My girl was VERY
clinging I could not even put her down to go to the bathroom without her
screaming.
Also after the four year emotional rollercoaster of my journey to get her,
I was so exhausted it helped fuel my depression.
Keep in mind I am prone to depression anyway. I ended up going to a
social worker who works with newly adopted children and their new parents.
It helped muchly.
i'm glad you got help for it and are doing better now. i just tho't it was
silly for the medical field to come up with yet another label for we
depressives. :/
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 06:28:52 PM |
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
--
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these
new labels for it? it's downright silly!
I don't know if I was a "label" but I can tell you that I did have a bit
of a crash last summer.
I had just returned home with my daughter (an international adoption).
I was stuck in the house during a horrid heat wave.
She had surgery and needed a great deal of care at home. My girl was
VERY clinging I could not even put her down to go to the bathroom without
her screaming.
Also after the four year emotional rollercoaster of my journey to get
her, I was so exhausted it helped fuel my depression.
Keep in mind I am prone to depression anyway. I ended up going to a
social worker who works with newly adopted children and their new
parents.
It helped muchly.
i'm glad you got help for it and are doing better now. i just tho't it
was silly for the medical field to come up with yet another label for we
depressives. :/
I agree with you. Depressed is depressed. A new label won't change
anything.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
21 Jul 2006 01:35:53 AM |
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In message <UkUvg.10466$Ss2.4652@trnddc01>, spy vs spy
<spyvsspy@mad.com> writes
"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these
new labels for it? it's downright silly!
I don't know if I was a "label" but I can tell you that I did have a bit
of a crash last summer.
I had just returned home with my daughter (an international adoption).
I was stuck in the house during a horrid heat wave.
She had surgery and needed a great deal of care at home. My girl was
VERY clinging I could not even put her down to go to the bathroom without
her screaming.
Also after the four year emotional rollercoaster of my journey to get
her, I was so exhausted it helped fuel my depression.
Keep in mind I am prone to depression anyway. I ended up going to a
social worker who works with newly adopted children and their new
parents.
It helped muchly.
i'm glad you got help for it and are doing better now. i just tho't it
was silly for the medical field to come up with yet another label for we
depressives. :/
I agree with you. Depressed is depressed. A new label won't change
anything.
There are different forms of depression, but I doubt that they
necessarily follow different triggers. Besides, they can change type;
for instance, mine was trigged by my situation, but now it's biological,
and possibly bipolar.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
21 Jul 2006 11:22:19 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 07:35:53 +0100, Alan Harding <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
There are different forms of depression, but I doubt that they
necessarily follow different triggers. Besides, they can change type;
for instance, mine was trigged by my situation, but now it's biological,
and possibly bipolar.
It seems evident now that thoughts can lead to depression. Once that is
ingrained, there are chemical changes in the brain - the computer on which
the software of thought runs is altered.
At that point, thought may no longer be effective is changing the system
back. Once the computer is malfunctioning, the software no longer runs
correctly.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 01:19:56 PM |
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used2be wrote:
"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
--
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these new
labels for it? it's downright silly!
So that the next DSM is thicker and therefore the profession shows progress.
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| User: "spy vs spy" |
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20 Jul 2006 05:20:39 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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used2be wrote:
"spy vs spy" <spyvsspy@mad.com> wrote in message
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"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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what will they think of next...
~u2b
--
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
It is real.
it may very well be, but do they really need to come up with all these
new labels for it? it's downright silly!
So that the next DSM is thicker and therefore the profession shows
progress.
Post reading the DSM depression.
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| User: "Myron" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 08:50:41 PM |
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In article <NACvg.2464$ST.2449@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
My oldest daughter starts 9th grade this fall and we
got the dress code today. She is depressed over it.
Dress Code Depression
I do find it funny how shorts are okay when they are
young but by the time they get to high school, no shorts
allowed. All tops must have collars with buttons but only
the first button can be unbuttoned but T-Shirts are fine
until high school.
Myron
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 09:02:22 PM |
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"Myron" <meseckem@vvm.com> wrote in message
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In article <NACvg.2464$ST.2449@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
My oldest daughter starts 9th grade this fall and we
got the dress code today. She is depressed over it.
what? i didn't write that!!!
:D
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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20 Jul 2006 02:45:22 AM |
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In message <NACvg.2464$ST.2449@tornado.texas.rr.com>, used2be
<used2be@nowhere.com> writes
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 07:56:42 AM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <NACvg.2464$ST.2449@tornado.texas.rr.com>, used2be
<used2be@nowhere.com> writes
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
pre-post depression depression
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| User: "Myron" |
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20 Jul 2006 08:53:43 PM |
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In article <e4Lvg.1868$YO6.1496@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:FaPSkfLSSzvEFwjY@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <NACvg.2464$ST.2449@tornado.texas.rr.com>, used2be
<used2be@nowhere.com> writes
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
pre-post depression depression
People stuck in dead end laundry jobs on the next Oprah.
Pressing Depression
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| User: "used2be" |
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20 Jul 2006 09:01:54 PM |
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"Myron" <meseckem@vvm.com> wrote in message
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In article <e4Lvg.1868$YO6.1496@tornado.texas.rr.com>,
"used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:FaPSkfLSSzvEFwjY@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <NACvg.2464$ST.2449@tornado.texas.rr.com>, used2be
<used2be@nowhere.com> writes
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
pre-post depression depression
People stuck in dead end laundry jobs on the next Oprah.
Pressing Depression
heh...yeah, that one will be next!
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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19 Jul 2006 11:10:04 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:17:01 GMT, "used2be" <used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
what will they think of next...
I chalk it up to "lack of sleep" depression.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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19 Jul 2006 11:17:02 PM |
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CyberDroog wrote...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:17:01 GMT, "used2be"
<used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
what will they think of next...
I chalk it up to "lack of sleep" depression.
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
-lisa
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| User: "Nom dePlume nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 12:10:18 AM |
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
-lisa
Oh, dear. So if I've just moved, have a new job, and was adopted
yesterday, I'm in deep trouble?
--
Nom dePlume, Ph.D.
Why, yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist.
Guide to Medications for Mental Illness:
http://www.geocities.com/nomdeplume1000/
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 07:56:06 AM |
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"Nom dePlume" <nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
-lisa
Oh, dear. So if I've just moved, have a new job, and was adopted
yesterday, I'm in deep trouble?
definitely. ;-)
actually, the 'post adoption depression' applied to the new moms.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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20 Jul 2006 01:32:52 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:56:06 +0000, used2be wrote:
"Nom dePlume" <nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98062DB13DE2mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a major
change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression and
just-moved depression.
Oh, dear. So if I've just moved, have a new job, and was adopted
yesterday, I'm in deep trouble?
definitely. ;-)
actually, the 'post adoption depression' applied to the new moms.
Huh? Postpartum depression without the partus?
Stalin was right... some people should be lined up and shot.
I have post traumatic stress disorder from hearing about people that have
gone through traumatic and stressful things in their lives.
Is the whole world losing its mind? I thought we were supposed to be the
crazy ones.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
Feingold-Obama '08 - Because the Constitution isn't history,
It's the law.
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| User: "used2be" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
20 Jul 2006 04:47:04 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:56:06 +0000, used2be wrote:
"Nom dePlume" <nomdeplume1000-at-yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e9n37h02vkk@news3.newsguy.com...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98062DB13DE2mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a major
change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression and
just-moved depression.
Oh, dear. So if I've just moved, have a new job, and was adopted
yesterday, I'm in deep trouble?
definitely. ;-)
actually, the 'post adoption depression' applied to the new moms.
Huh? Postpartum depression without the partus?
exactly.
Stalin was right... some people should be lined up and shot.
sometimes i have to agree with that. reminds me of that old country song,
"i hate stupid people." :)
I have post traumatic stress disorder from hearing about people that have
gone through traumatic and stressful things in their lives.
Is the whole world losing its mind? I thought we were supposed to be the
crazy ones.
sadly, i think we might be the ones most sane!!!
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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20 Jul 2006 03:18:50 PM |
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In message <Xns98062DB13DE2mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4>, lisa in mass.
<mccats@rcn.com> writes
CyberDroog wrote...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:17:01 GMT, "used2be"
<used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
what will they think of next...
I chalk it up to "lack of sleep" depression.
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
Depression can follow any major stress, can't it? New job and moving
house are major stressors. So is divorce, or losing a close relative.
Sticking a label on each is just daft, especially for those of us who've
had three of the four, while working in a constantly changing stressful
job. What do you call that - stress depression?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "%" |
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20 Jul 2006 03:46:42 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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In message <Xns98062DB13DE2mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4>, lisa in mass.
<mccats@rcn.com> writes
CyberDroog wrote...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:17:01 GMT, "used2be"
<used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
what will they think of next...
I chalk it up to "lack of sleep" depression.
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
Depression can follow any major stress, can't it? New job and moving
house are major stressors. So is divorce, or losing a close relative.
Sticking a label on each is just daft, especially for those of us who've
had three of the four, while working in a constantly changing stressful
job. What do you call that - stress depression?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
anything can anything and everyone calls it something
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| User: "CyberDroog" |
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20 Jul 2006 11:33:39 PM |
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On 20 Jul 2006 04:17:02 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:17:01 GMT, "used2be"
<used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
what will they think of next...
I chalk it up to "lack of sleep" depression.
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
Moving always makes me hyper.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
21 Jul 2006 01:29:43 AM |
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In message <c8m0c252np8ata6do531co0bdg418lov3o@news.easynews.com>,
CyberDroog <CyberDroog@ClockworkOrange.com> writes
On 20 Jul 2006 04:17:02 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
CyberDroog wrote...
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 03:17:01 GMT, "used2be"
<used2be@nowhere.com> wrote:
what will they think of next...
I chalk it up to "lack of sleep" depression.
the report i saw said it's a combination of lack of sleep and a
major change of lifestyle. next there'll be new-job depression
and just-moved depression.
Moving always makes me hyper.
By comparison to my ordinary self, moving *is* hyper.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
21 Jul 2006 12:34:24 AM |
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used2be wrote:
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I parsed that last two words as "Franz Beztuchev"
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: post adoption depression... |
21 Jul 2006 01:16:19 AM |
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wrote:
used2be wrote:
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I parsed that last two words as "Franz Beztuchev"
Yea but did you think "Bestyuzhev" in pronunciation as is proper?
You have to read my writings for content and pronounce my name correctly
at the end.
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21 Jul 2006 04:11:33 PM |
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Franz Bestuchev wrote:
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
used2be wrote:
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I parsed that last two words as "Franz Beztuchev"
Yea but did you think "Bestyuzhev" in pronunciation as is proper?
You have to read my writings for content and pronounce my name correctly
at the end.
Yes master.
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21 Jul 2006 05:48:28 PM |
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wrote:
Franz Bestuchev wrote:
wrote:
used2be wrote:
what will they think of next...
Post depression depression?
When you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you.
~~Friedrich Nietzsche
I parsed that last two words as "Franz Beztuchev"
Yea but did you think "Bestyuzhev" in pronunciation as is proper?
You have to read my writings for content and pronounce my name correctly
at the end.
Yes master.
You say you're Russian, you should know the last name.
Supposedly you've got:
Aleksei Petrovich Bestuzhev-Ryumin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksey_Petrovich_Bestuzhev-Ryumin
Mikhail Bestuzhev-Ryumin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bestuzhev-Ryumin
Fine men.
Men who never got the chance to post to usenet....
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