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"gravitys rainbow" |
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26 Oct 2005 02:27:57 AM |
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post your journal |
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Michael / Gravity
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| User: "Dark Butterfly" |
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26 Oct 2005 11:25:16 AM |
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I see you posted to my journal. Thanks.
gravity's rainbow wrote:
http://www.livejournal.com/users/gravityzrainbow/
Michael / Gravity
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26 Oct 2005 03:09:46 AM |
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
...maybe it was just the screaming baby + math/astro/physics-homework mixture
that simply drove a spike in my brain..
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Michael / Gravity
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"We must pause to realize that, outside our coterie, much of what we do is
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| User: "gravitys rainbow" |
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26 Oct 2005 03:34:50 AM |
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as
differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review *everything*
i've learned and then go from there. i am currently working through 3000
pages of miscellaneous garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read more fiction.
to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the other day. almost done with
it.
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for serious layman,
or undergrad.
Gravity
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| User: "packrat" |
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26 Oct 2005 03:38:01 AM |
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"gravity's rainbow" <gravity1@m-net.arbornet.org> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as
differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review *everything*
i've learned and then go from there. i am currently working through 3000
pages of miscellaneous garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read more fiction.
to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the other day. almost done with
it.
what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection of
this persons novels. enlighten me.
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for serious layman,
or undergrad.
Gravity
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| User: "Luna" |
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26 Oct 2005 05:00:22 AM |
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"packrat" <maddie_75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"gravity's rainbow" <gravity1@m-net.arbornet.org> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as
differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review *everything*
i've learned and then go from there. i am currently working through
3000
pages of miscellaneous garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read more
fiction.
to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the other day. almost done
with
it.
what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection
of
this persons novels. enlighten me.
Go to the library and pick up Breakfast of Champions. You'll fall in love
with him, then you can read the rest.
Jean
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for serious
layman,
or undergrad.
Gravity
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| User: "packrat" |
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26 Oct 2005 08:43:19 AM |
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"Luna" <lunajean@gmail.com> wrote in message
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"packrat" <maddie_75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"gravity's rainbow" <gravity1@m-net.arbornet.org> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as
differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I
just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review
*everything*
i've learned and then go from there. i am currently working through
3000
pages of miscellaneous garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read more
fiction.
to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the other day. almost done
with
it.
what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection
of
this persons novels. enlighten me.
Go to the library and pick up Breakfast of Champions. You'll fall in love
with him, then you can read the rest.
Jean
Hey Luna,
Will take your word for it now. I have my reasons. Will put it on my
list for one day though.
thanks
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for serious
layman,
or undergrad.
Gravity
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| User: "gravitys rainbow" |
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26 Oct 2005 03:54:13 AM |
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what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection
of this persons novels. enlighten me.
i'm not terribly impressed with him, but he one of the premier authors of
the 20th century. i find him somewhat like Orwell, but a better
storyteller. Orwell has good ideas. Vonnegut has good execution.
again i don't read much fiction, so elegy would know more.
i will wait to give a full opinion when i've read Mother Night. i loved the
movie.
Gravity
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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26 Oct 2005 04:49:46 PM |
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packrat wrote:
what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection of
this persons novels. enlighten me.
I saw him interviewed recently on some talk show, Charley rose
maybe... He was very interesting... maybe I'll read him someday, after
I get through the 50 or so books that are on my list now... I know that
"slaughterhouse 5" is supposed to be really good...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "gravitys rainbow" |
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26 Oct 2005 04:02:08 AM |
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packrat,
some stuff that i have bought and is on my reading list:
Vineland by Thomas Pynchon
Finnegans Wake by James Joyce
Naked Lunch by Burroughs
to be honest, i've been reading mainly fluff and non-fiction. i like
Palahniuk (Fight Club) and will buy more of that. he's fun, but perhaps
overrated.
Vonnegut is very engaging. he holds your interest very well. but i like
more overblown prose.
i tried to read Foucalt's Pendulum, but gave up. i may try some other Eco
works instead. the general impression i get from Eco is "i'm way smarter
than you!". i don't like to be patronized.
Gravity
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as
differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review *everything*
i've learned and then go from there. i am currently working through 3000
pages of miscellaneous garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read more fiction.
to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the other day. almost done
with it.
what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection
of this persons novels. enlighten me.
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for serious
layman, or undergrad.
Gravity
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| User: "gravitys rainbow" |
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26 Oct 2005 03:56:53 AM |
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packrat, i don't like anti-intellectualism. Orwell wrote for the crowd, but
he is quite boring sometimes. i prefer beautiful, over-done prose.
i haven't read all of Pynchon's works, but i will. except for that Mason &
Dixon one.
i have only read a little Joyce. he is considered the epitome of modern
fiction. very self-aggrandizing. very cerebral. but way overdone. i may
make it through Finnegans Wake one day. but you really need several FW
guides to really get much out of it. or be a polyglot.
Gravitation
"packrat" <maddie_75@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"gravity's rainbow" <gravity1@m-net.arbornet.org> wrote in message
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"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
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read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so far as
differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on it, and I just
simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review *everything*
i've learned and then go from there. i am currently working through 3000
pages of miscellaneous garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read more fiction.
to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the other day. almost done
with it.
what's the deal with Vonnegut? Never read his stuff, but never have been
big into fiction either. just know of someone else with a big collection
of this persons novels. enlighten me.
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for serious
layman, or undergrad.
Gravity
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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26 Oct 2005 04:52:40 PM |
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gravity's rainbow wrote:
packrat, i don't like anti-intellectualism. Orwell wrote for the crowd, but
he is quite boring sometimes. i prefer beautiful, over-done prose.
i haven't read all of Pynchon's works, but i will. except for that Mason &
Dixon one.
i have only read a little Joyce. he is considered the epitome of modern
fiction. very self-aggrandizing. very cerebral. but way overdone. i may
make it through Finnegans Wake one day. but you really need several FW
guides to really get much out of it. or be a polyglot.
Gravitation
I want to challenge myself as well... I love Agatha Christis, for
example, but it's really easy reading... I need more of a challenge...
for one thing, I'm planning to read books that I was supposed to read
in high school, but didn't, in addition to other books...
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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26 Oct 2005 04:48:59 PM |
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gravity's rainbow wrote...
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:eRG7f.302979$1i.224892@pd7tw2no...
read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so
far as differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on
it, and I just simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review
*everything* i've learned and then go from there. i am
currently working through 3000 pages of miscellaneous
garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read
more fiction. to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the
other day. almost done with it.
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for
serious layman, or undergrad.
Gravity
linear algebra was fun. i took two sememsters as electives. i
was nowhere near a math major, just liked algebra.
-lisa
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| User: "electro" |
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27 Oct 2005 01:36:36 AM |
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
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gravity's rainbow wrote...
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:eRG7f.302979$1i.224892@pd7tw2no...
read your journal.
I'm curious what you refer to as "basic math". I got so
far as differential
and multivariable calculus before my brain got broked on
it, and I just simply didn't find it fun any more..
ah, multivariate calc and linear algebra. i need to review
*everything* i've learned and then go from there. i am
currently working through 3000 pages of miscellaneous
garbage.
honestly engineering gives me a headache, and i should read
more fiction. to that end, i picked up a Vonnegut novel the
other day. almost done with it.
Dover makes a good series of books. they are intended for
serious layman, or undergrad.
Gravity
linear algebra was fun. i took two sememsters as electives. i
was nowhere near a math major, just liked algebra.
-lisa
yeah, I miss algebra.. ..it was always a breeze to me. I remember in
highschool getting 100% in alg. 99% trig. 99% stats. Uni, got 95% in
linear alg/matrices.. ..then calculus became a quickly sliding slope for me
and defeated my love of math. not that I don't appreciate it, or anything..
...and not that I don't think it's over my head in any way.. ..I just don't
think I want to go through the motions anymore.. ..let someone else plug it
into code and I'll make use of it's power.. ..but ***** the migraine of
writing endless pages of equations. and really, getting nowhere where
anyone else hasn't been before. I'm not smart enough to add anything to the
world of math or physics.. ..I used to think I was, thought it was my
destiny actually.. ..and maybe at one time it was.. ..or maybe I was just
high.. ..genius doesn't tend to blossom in early-on broken spirits
regardless. But that's my own retro-active justification of my position I
suppose..
now burried in the most cognitively regressive activity.. ..toddler
management and entertainment.
anyway, I miss doing astronomy labs.. ..mostly just miss access to the
$15,000 telescopes..
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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27 Oct 2005 04:07:31 PM |
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lisa in mass. wrote:
linear algebra was fun. i took two sememsters as electives. i
was nowhere near a math major, just liked algebra.
-lisa
I often have the fantasy of taking algebra again these days, as well
as Biology, just becaus I did so poorly in those subjects, back in high
school, they just made little sense to me... like with my reading, I'd
like to catch up on what I missed out on back then.(either
intentionally or unintentionally)
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Gravity" |
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27 Oct 2005 04:18:15 PM |
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"alvintchase" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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lisa in mass. wrote:
linear algebra was fun. i took two sememsters as electives. i
was nowhere near a math major, just liked algebra.
-lisa
I often have the fantasy of taking algebra again these days, as well
as Biology, just becaus I did so poorly in those subjects, back in high
school, they just made little sense to me... like with my reading, I'd
like to catch up on what I missed out on back then.(either
intentionally or unintentionally)
i stopped doing all homework except for when i had time during class. i was
supposed to read a ton of books, but opted for Cliff Notes. so my weakest
grades were in English, because i couldn't bluff as well as in math class.
i was at the top of the class in physics, because it was all application of
algebra, which i learned in 7th grade anyway. calc based physics and difeqs
at Stuveysant would have kicked my *****.
track also sucked up 2 hours a day, clubs sucked up one hour a day, i played
basketball for 4 years, i had no time to study even if i wished to.
i assume no one else studied either. bviously in college, you need to
study, unless you go to some rinky-dink ***** in British Columbia.
Persent couldn't handle Emag I, much less III.
Gravity
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| User: "Gravity" |
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27 Oct 2005 04:20:10 PM |
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high school is about drinking and sex. it's a tremendous waste of time.
people should be kicked out of the public system at age 14, and go to
college instead.
Gravity
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lisa in mass. wrote:
linear algebra was fun. i took two sememsters as electives. i
was nowhere near a math major, just liked algebra.
-lisa
I often have the fantasy of taking algebra again these days, as well
as Biology, just becaus I did so poorly in those subjects, back in high
school, they just made little sense to me... like with my reading, I'd
like to catch up on what I missed out on back then.(either
intentionally or unintentionally)
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "Gravity" |
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27 Oct 2005 05:12:59 PM |
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I often have the fantasy of taking algebra again these days, as well
as Biology, just becaus I did so poorly in those subjects, back in high
school, they just made little sense to me... like with my reading, I'd
like to catch up on what I missed out on back then.(either
intentionally or unintentionally)
Alvin, check out the Dover publications books. they have entry-level
(algebra only) books on relativity, graph theory, and other topics. i'm
ordering a couple of game theory books from them (actually amazon.com cause
it's cheaper). one is semi-technical, the other is simplified.
it's ok to self-study and avoid very big equations.
also Prime Obsession is very good. it covers Big O, big sigma, big pi, zeta
function, and series.
oh, and a tip, some of the "greatest novels of the 20th century" are
actually *****. i could write better material while i'm on the crapper.
Gravity
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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27 Oct 2005 04:42:28 PM |
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or, at least have to option to do so. i never did homework in
high school, either. too bored to read the crap from the book
and copy it to my paper. i loved summer, when i got to think,
for a change.
-lisa
Gravity wrote...
high school is about drinking and sex. it's a tremendous
waste of time. people should be kicked out of the public
system at age 14, and go to college instead.
Gravity
"alvintchase" <Icnh@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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lisa in mass. wrote:
linear algebra was fun. i took two sememsters as
electives. i was nowhere near a math major, just liked
algebra.
-lisa
I often have the fantasy of taking algebra again these
days, as well
as Biology, just becaus I did so poorly in those subjects,
back in high school, they just made little sense to me...
like with my reading, I'd like to catch up on what I
missed out on back then.(either intentionally or
unintentionally)
-"Alvintchase"
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| User: "gravitys rainbow" |
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26 Oct 2005 03:17:01 AM |
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electro,
some people would say that all undergrad math (analysis, differential
geometry, topology) are basic maths. i dunno. obviously some of the same
topics are covered in grad school, just much more rigorously (e.g.
graduate-level algebra and higher arithmetic).
Michael
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| User: "Louise Mallard" |
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26 Oct 2005 11:34:05 AM |
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gravity's rainbow wrote:
electro,
some people would say that all undergrad math (analysis, differential
geometry, topology) are basic maths. i dunno. obviously some of the same
topics are covered in grad school, just much more rigorously (e.g.
graduate-level algebra and higher arithmetic).
Michael
My idea of basic math is what I use while I food shop and kep it within
budget. That's it.
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