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14 Jan 2006 01:01:13 AM |
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Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
Interesting: Evil Freemasons and Thelemites and other occultits in the
United States Federal Government erased similar contents to what you
see below from the servers of Usenet trying to protect the "staus quo"
which means the "generally excepted view-point that is almost always
wrong". It was these occultists in the United States Government that
presured Bill Gates of Microsoft into giving the Federal Government a
Back Door into everyone's computers and the internet to alter anything
on any computer connected to the internet. This back door is now in the
hands of the occultists on the internet and I have seen the evidence
that this is so.
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The original word translated doctor or physician from greek meant
"healer" and they healed with Holy Spirit not Witchdoctor potions. The
Almighty Father YEHOVAH will answer prayers to Him to heal you if you
put full trust in Him to be healed and have patience. King Hezekiah in
the Holy Scriptures was healed from a terminal illness gradually the
Holy Scriptures says because he begged the Almighty Father YEHOVAH to
heal Him.
The word translated Sorcery in Revelation in the King James Bible is
the Greek word "pharmachea" and this is the same word that the English
word pharmacy comes from. In the New World Translation this word is
translated Spritism. If you look up in the Strong's Exhaustive
Concordance of the King James Bible and refernece the word in the Greek
dictionary in the back it will say the word means; "Druggest, Poisoner,
Witch, Sorceror, Maggi. Mage, Wizard, Shaman" and this is the same word
that the English word "pharmacist" comes from and a doctor or a
physician works hand in hand with the pharmacist. Especially dangerous
is today is the psychiatrist or the psychologist who prescribes drugs.
I posted similar info to this eariler and it was removed from the News
Groups that i am posting from. Evil people do not want you to know
these truths.
The word translated "Maggi" in the King James Version of the Bible
means "oriental scientist" and the English word "physician" means
"scientist". Of cource Maggi are Witches or Wizards or Sorcers or
Shaman
and the Holy Scriptures makes it very clear that they serve Satan's
interests. But they can repent! http://www.watchtower.org
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/love_will_rule_soon/The_Horrible_Truth_About_Psychiatric_Drugs.htm
http://www.tinyurl.com/7tnv3
See this link that psych drugs are poison from a venimous snake!
Below is what I left to a person on alt.freemasonry a place where
occultits hang out who believe in magick = witchcraft.
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The Un-Rev. 11D Meow! high preist in the Masonic Thelemic Church of the
Sub-Genius said: "Poisonally, I prefer Pop Rocks, thank very much."
http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/P/2/baph.jpg
If you really desire poison then drink your own semen because all
occultists do that. If you willfully unrepentently practice this then
you have truly damned. Consuming pharmacuticals is no different then
consuming semen because these pharmacuticals sprung from the minds of
those you practiced sex magick drinking semen. Pharmacuticals =
Medicine = Drugs is poison just like semen. Look the Baphomet is the
medical symbol the caduceus. Notice the two venemous serpants wrapping
his phallus and how his wings become the wings of the medical symbol
the caduceus. Witchdoctors have always been highly respected men in
their cultures among the pagans. Do you think it would be any different
among today's modern witchdoctors who are physicions? Adam and Eve did
eat the apple which was sexual fluids and the poison really did kill
them but Satan continues to promote the lie that you survive death as
an immortal spirit. He promotes this lie along with his demons by
pretending to be your dead ancestors and pretending to be "Ghosts".
Semen is loaded with the biochemical substances of Putricine (or
Putrecine) Spermidine and Spermine. Spermidine and Spermine are
involved in Nucleic acid replication in the body and especially the
brain. The brain is a DNA computer and all thought processes and
memories are encoded on the DNA of every cell in your brain. The
altered DNA of mankind from consuming the poison from the tree of the
knowlege of good and bad Adam's Penis which was also the original
serpent gave mankind the proclivity and drive to invent and construct
things and delve into science. This poison knowledge of Satan is
leading man into self destruction and collective suicide as he destroys
the very planet he lives on because all manufacturing processes are
raping the Earth and creating polutents that are destroying the very
planet we lived on. Yes Satan's poison knowledge from the forbidden
fruit is leading man into self destruction. And they do not have a good
heart to stop themselves because vaginal secretions and menustration
that occultists also consume in their sex magick rituals effect the
heart and corrupt it. The only this that can trun a man around and
remove this Adamic sin is to fear the Almighty Father YEHOVAH and
resolve in your heart to practice righteousness and accept His Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH as your personal Savious for forgiveness of your
sins. Say the prayer below that will change your live and lead in on
the road to salvation.
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Here is a prayer that will change your life and so you can get
protection from the most powerful body guard in the universe. It is
important not to replace the titles "Lord" and "God" with the Holy name
YEHOVAH when saying this prayer. And continue to ask for these things
day after day to make sure you are protected and not blind in anyway.
Dear YEHOVAH Elohim heavenly Father All Powerful One who created all
things. Please hear my prayer. I accept the sacrifice of your male
offspring YEHOSHUVAH for forgiveness of my sins. Please forgive me of
all the bad things I have done in my life. Please fill me with Holy
Spirit in the same manner as John the Baptist. Please make me do your
will so I can endure to the end so I can be saved. I know I have free
will but I give you permission to make me do your will because I want
to live forever. Please lift my blinders so that I am not blinded by
Satan in anyway. Please lead me to the truth in all things. Please give
me true wisdom, true understanding and true knowledge. Please remove
all the defilement from my body. Please give me a pure heart and a pure
mind. Please rewrite my heart and mind so that I love you compleately.
Please may your Holy Name YEHOVAH be viewed as Holy before everyone.
Please may your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Please
protect me from Satan and his demons and bad people and those who serve
Satan and his demons so that they can not cause me harm or trouble for
either me or my family. Please protect me from poisons and drugs and
medications and chemicals that I unknowingly consume or are forced upon
me. Please guide me to the truth in all things. Again please forgive me
of all my past wrongdoings because I accept the sacrifice of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH. Please give me faith beyond faith. Please give me
armors or righteousness. Please give me a sword of truth. Please give
me the helment of salvation. Please give me the fruitages of the
spirit. Please remove all the defilement from my body. I love you dear
Father YEHOVAH. Again please make me do your will because I want to
live forever. I pray these things through the name of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH who died for my sins so that I can be saved when I
endure to the end. Amen.
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/freemasonry_exposed/satanic_freemasonry.htm
At the link above it will show you who are responsible for the
degridation of society and that is the Freemasons and other occultists
and false religions like Jesuit Catholics who also promote
pharmacutical drugging of the people and have huge amounts of stock in
the pharmacutical industry.
Note to the argument that the "other sheep" or the "little flock"
should be born again and are in the Kingdom but on Earth are also
spiritual jews and should partake of the emblems. It may be argued that
there is a scriptures that says; "Flesh and blood can not inherit the
Kingdom of God". To inherit means to take possetion (sic) as property
from a Father. That can only be said of the 144,000 since they will be
in charge ruling as Kings and Preists in heaven. But the Kingdom of
YEHOVAH is both heavenly and Earthly and the other sheep will survive
Armagedon and live forever on the Earth.
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Here is a prayer that will change your life and so you can get
protection from the most powerful body guard in the universe. It is
important not to replace the titles "Lord" and "God" with the Holy name
YEHOVAH when saying this prayer. And continue to ask for these things
day after day to make sure you are protected and not blind in anyway.
Dear YEHOVAH Elohim heavenly Father All Powerful One who created all
things. Please hear my prayer. I accept the sacrifice of your male
offspring YEHOSHUVAH for forgiveness of my sins. Please forgive me of
all the bad things I have done in my life. Please fill me with Holy
Spirit in the same manner as John the Baptist. Please make me do your
will so I can endure to the end so I can be saved. I know I have free
will but I give you permission to make me do your will because I want
to live forever. Please lift my blinders so that I am not blinded by
Satan in anyway. Please lead me to the truth in all things. Please give
me true wisdom, true understanding and true knowledge. Please remove
all the defilement from my body. Please give me a pure heart and a pure
mind. Please rewrite my heart and mind so that I love you compleately.
Please may your Holy Name YEHOVAH be viewed as Holy before everyone.
Please may your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Please
protect me from Satan and his demons and bad people and those who serve
Satan and his demons so that they can not cause me harm or trouble for
either me or my family. Please protect me from poisons and drugs and
medications and chemicals that I unknowingly consume or are forced upon
me. Please guide me to the truth in all things. Again please forgive me
of all my past wrongdoings because I accept the sacrifice of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH. Please give me faith beyond faith. Please give me
armors or righteousness. Please give me a sword of truth. Please give
me the helment of salvation. Please give me the fruitages of the
spirit. Please remove all the defilement from my body. I love you dear
Father YEHOVAH. Again please make me do your will because I want to
live forever. I pray these things through the name of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH who died for my sins so that I can be saved when I
endure to the end. Amen. http://www.watchtower.org
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
14 Jan 2006 01:45:35 AM |
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Dear GOD!
Please Bring 'The Rupture' Soon!
And, if you have a teeny tiny moment to spare,
a spell-checker, a spiel-check, and a few little
tiny hugs for a few bazillion starvint people
wopuld be nice.
I'm pretty sure they'd just love
a little food and shelter and health care
instead of that hug, LORD.
But, who am I to ask you, oh mighty BIG GOD!
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
14 Jan 2006 03:33:05 AM |
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I am not a "god". I am a lowly one living a simple life.
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "alvintchase" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
16 Jan 2006 04:06:10 PM |
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I am not a "god". I am a lowly one living a simple life.
http://www.watchtower.org
you are god, I am god, everyone and everything is god...
-"alvintchase"
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| User: "purpleveggie" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
14 Jan 2006 03:56:55 AM |
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I am not a "god". I am a lowly one living a simple life.
http://www.watchtower.org
so your a simple low life?
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| User: "kali" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
14 Jan 2006 07:48:56 AM |
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purpleveggie wrote:
love_will_rule_very_soon@yahoo.com wrote:
I am not a "god". I am a lowly one living a simple life.
http://www.watchtower.org
so your a simple low life?
LOL
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| User: "kali" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
14 Jan 2006 01:54:29 AM |
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Rev. 11D Meow! wrote:
Dear GOD!
Please Bring 'The Rupture' Soon!
And, if you have a teeny tiny moment to spare,
a spell-checker, a spiel-check, and a few little
tiny hugs for a few bazillion starvint people
wopuld be nice.
I'm pretty sure they'd just love
a little food and shelter and health care
instead of that hug, LORD.
But, who am I to ask you, oh mighty BIG GOD!
I personally think witchcraft is medicine, or at least helpful, but
there are quite a few practitioners out there, and everyone has their
druthers...so, on this Friday the 13th, I'd say choose your favorite
guy or gal behind the mask who shakes that rattle like nobody else, and
get your groove down to whatever makes you purr.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
15 Jan 2006 05:10:28 AM |
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Something Else- YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") spat out the drugged wine that had
midications in it when he was impaled on the stake! More proof
medication is from Satan!
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Matt" |
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16 Jan 2006 04:06:57 PM |
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wrote:
Something Else- YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") spat out the drugged wine that had
midications in it when he was impaled on the stake! More proof
medication is from Satan!
O.k., just to reiterate what I said in a different post, which you did
not have an answer for...
That was only to fulfill the prophecy in Mat 26:29: "But I say unto
you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that
day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom"...If he would
have drank the wine, he would have broken scripture...and "the
scripture cannot be broken".
And you still haven't told me why Timothy was told to drink a little
wine for his "frequent stomach ailments".
In the future Millenial rule of Jesus Christ..."The leaves will be used
for medicine to heal the nations". Most of modern medicine is based on
the properties of plants.
Are you telling me if you broke your leg, you would not go to a doctor
to get it fixed? Or if your appendix was going to burst, you wouldn't
go through the simple procedure to remove it. You'd rather die? Yes,
God can and does heal...but sometimes He says no. Paul prayed 3 times
that his "thorn in the flesh" would be removed...that God would heal
him. But God basically said "no"..."My grace is sufficient".
So you don't go to a dentist to get your teeth cleaned? You must have
a mouthfull of cavities. You are fortunate to have had good health to
where you haven't needed a doctor yet. However, when that ailment
comes on you sometime in the future, you may change your mind. Many
God fearing individuals have suffered sickness/disease that God has
chosen not to heal. God often works through human instruments.
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17 Jan 2006 05:50:52 AM |
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The Holy Scriptures makes it very clear that there was a drug in the
wine that was given YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") and he did take some of it
into his mouth but when he reconised that it was drugged wine he spat
it out.
Wine is not a drug but rather food for the body. Alchohol is when
consumed in moderation is actually digested in the liver and converted
to energy.
You would consume food also for the sake of your stomach if you had
hunger pains. But is the food a drug? NO!
I believe that anyone who is serving YEHOVAH in complete truth will be
protected from calamity and even if YEHOVAH does allow something to
happen if you put your trust in Him he will heal you gradually. I had
an infected sore on my leg recently that stayed there for almost three
months before it healed. I refused to take antibiotics and for that i
was blessed because my immune system is stronger for it. Antibiotics
are made from mold which is related to yeast. Mold is very unclean.
Consuming semen may seem "harmless" to many doctors but it poisons the
body and defiles it just as antibiotics do. Recently also I had
conjunctivitis (sore red eyes) that spat out puss in large quantities
that was similar in appearence to varnish. I refused to go to a doctor
and I prayed continuely. My eyes swelled up almost shut and my eyes
even became blackened like someone had punched me in the face. After
three weeks of constinus prayer my eyes were back to normal without
medication. Recently I got an itchy skin disease that persisted and
even it is going away now. I am telling you truthfully if you put your
trust in the Almighty Father YEHOVAH and worship Him in compleate
spirit and truth he will cure any ailment. I am quite certain that
Satan caused these problems for me just as he caused Job to have skin
disease. Did Job take medication for the skin disease that Satan gave
him? NO! But I bet the Egyptians were using medication for the skin
disease that YEHOVAH gave them during the 10 plagues of Egypt! You can
repent! http://www.watchtower.org
In the old testament the reason the Levites the Preistly tribe did not
consume the fat of the animal and how it had to be burned as an
offering to YEHOVAH is because the fat of the animal is what stores the
poisons from the plants that the animal consumes. These poisons are
psychoactive and the Levites needed to keep their minds clean and
undefiled so they could think clearly because they were responsible for
teaching the people. For instance an unclean animal the rain deer today
likes to eat the psychodelic animita muscaria mushroom and the active
psychoactive substance of the mushrooms they consume are actually
stored in the fat of the animal and if you consume the fat of those
raindeer who will have a psychodelic experience. Even yeast a fungus is
technically something that is unclean although YEHOVAH tolerated its
consumption in bread. The fact that the bread that YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus")
used during the Lord's Eavening Meal (also called the last super) was
unleavened bread meaning it had no yeast in it. The yeast represented
sin because technically from a very strict sense even yeast is unclean
it being a fungus. Fasting cleanses the body and that is why Hebrews
fasted so that they would have clear spiritual insight. That is why
YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") went into the wildernace for 30 days to fast so
that he would be able to think very clearly and have clear spiritual
insight. Satan did not want him to achieve this spiritual awakening so
he tried to get him to eat bread by telling him to turn stones into
bread. In the Holy Scriptures in some places a stone is symbolic of a
testicle and that was the original sin consuming sexual fluids. Yes
even yeast is unclean. Remember the Levites did not consume the fat of
any animal even though they were clean under the Mosaic laws because
the poisons of the plants the animal consumes are stored in the fat of
the animal. The reason Westerners are so fat is because of all the
pharmacuticals they consume that are stored in their fat.
"Antipsychotic" drugs or tranquilizers or neuroleptics bind to lipids
in the body or the fat in the body. These drugs are stored in the fat
of a person which is another reason these drugs will make a person blow
up like a ballon and get fat very quickly.
http://www.tinyurl.com/7tnv3
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/love_will_rule_soon/The_Horrible_Truth_About_Psychiatric_Drugs.htm
In Revelation the word translated Sorcery in the King James Version of
the Bible is the Greek word pharmachea the same word the English word
pharmacist comes from. The Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the King
James Bible defines the word in the back in the Greek Dictionary as
"Druggest, Poisoner, Witch, Socerer, Wizard, Mage, Maggi, Shamen" and
if you wanted to add more you could add doctor and pysicion (sic). In
the King James version the word that appears in the text as Maggi is
defined in the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance as "Oriental Scientists"
and of cource a maggi is a witch. Sorry to break it to you but you are
very wrong about the use of drugs or medicine.
The "torn in the flesh" of Paul was not a disease but rather a "spirit
of Satan that kept slapping him" as the scripture reveals and Paul said
the reason YEHOVAH did not prevent it was because it was for the
purpose that he would not become too overly exhaulted so he did not
become puffed up with pride. Paul's problem was he only prayed three
times. The Holy Scriptures says to pray continuely asking over and over
again no matter how long it takes. YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") said to "keep
on asking and it will be given to you".
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
17 Jan 2006 05:54:52 AM |
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The Holy Scriptures makes it very clear that there was a drug in the
wine that was given YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") and he did take some of it
into his mouth but when he reconised that it was drugged wine he spat
it out.
Wine is not a drug but rather food for the body. Alchohol is when
consumed in moderation is actually digested in the liver and converted
to energy.
You would consume food also for the sake of your stomach if you had
hunger pains. But is the food a drug? NO!
I believe that anyone who is serving YEHOVAH in complete truth will be
protected from calamity and even if YEHOVAH does allow something to
happen if you put your trust in Him he will heal you gradually. I had
an infected sore on my leg recently that stayed there for almost three
months before it healed. I refused to take antibiotics and for that i
was blessed because my immune system is stronger for it. Antibiotics
are made from mold which is related to yeast. Mold is very unclean.
Consuming semen may seem "harmless" to many doctors but it poisons the
body and defiles it just as antibiotics do. Recently also I had
conjunctivitis (sore red eyes) that spat out puss in large quantities
that was similar in appearence to varnish. I refused to go to a doctor
and I prayed continuely. My eyes swelled up almost shut and my eyes
even became blackened like someone had punched me in the face. After
three weeks of constinus prayer my eyes were back to normal without
medication. Recently I got an itchy skin disease that persisted and
even it is going away now. I am telling you truthfully if you put your
trust in the Almighty Father YEHOVAH and worship Him in compleate
spirit and truth he will cure any ailment. I am quite certain that
Satan caused these problems for me just as he caused Job to have skin
disease. Did Job take medication for the skin disease that Satan gave
him? NO! But I bet the Egyptians were using medication for the skin
disease that YEHOVAH gave them during the 10 plagues of Egypt! You can
repent! http://www.watchtower.org
In the old testament the reason the Levites the Preistly tribe did not
consume the fat of the animal and how it had to be burned as an
offering to YEHOVAH is because the fat of the animal is what stores the
poisons from the plants that the animal consumes. These poisons are
psychoactive and the Levites needed to keep their minds clean and
undefiled so they could think clearly because they were responsible for
teaching the people. For instance an unclean animal the rain deer today
likes to eat the psychodelic animita muscaria mushroom and the active
psychoactive substance of the mushrooms they consume are actually
stored in the fat of the animal and if you consume the fat of those
raindeer who will have a psychodelic experience. Even yeast a fungus is
technically something that is unclean although YEHOVAH tolerated its
consumption in bread. The fact that the bread that YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus")
used during the Lord's Eavening Meal (also called the last super) was
unleavened bread meaning it had no yeast in it. The yeast represented
sin because technically from a very strict sense even yeast is unclean
it being a fungus. Fasting cleanses the body and that is why Hebrews
fasted so that they would have clear spiritual insight. That is why
YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") went into the wildernace for 30 days to fast so
that he would be able to think very clearly and have clear spiritual
insight. Satan did not want him to achieve this spiritual awakening so
he tried to get him to eat bread by telling him to turn stones into
bread. In the Holy Scriptures in some places a stone is symbolic of a
testicle and that was the original sin consuming sexual fluids. Yes
even yeast is unclean. Remember the Levites did not consume the fat of
any animal even though they were clean under the Mosaic laws because
the poisons of the plants the animal consumes are stored in the fat of
the animal. The reason Westerners are so fat is because of all the
pharmacuticals they consume that are stored in their fat.
"Antipsychotic" drugs or tranquilizers or neuroleptics bind to lipids
in the body or the fat in the body. These drugs are stored in the fat
of a person which is another reason these drugs will make a person blow
up like a ballon and get fat very quickly.
http://www.tinyurl.com/7tnv3
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/love_will_rule_soon/The_Horrible_Truth_About_Psychiatric_Drugs.htm
In Revelation the word translated Sorcery in the King James Version of
the Bible is the Greek word pharmachea the same word the English word
pharmacist comes from. The Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the King
James Bible defines the word in the back in the Greek Dictionary as
"Druggest, Poisoner, Witch, Socerer, Wizard, Mage, Maggi, Shamen" and
if you wanted to add more you could add doctor and pysicion (sic). In
the King James version the word that appears in the text as Maggi is
defined in the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance as "Oriental Scientists"
and of cource a maggi is a witch. Sorry to break it to you but you are
very wrong about the use of drugs or medicine.
The "torn in the flesh" of Paul was not a disease but rather a "spirit
of Satan that kept slapping him" as the scripture reveals and Paul said
the reason YEHOVAH did not prevent it was because it was for the
purpose that he would not become too overly exhaulted so he did not
become puffed up with pride. Paul's problem was he only prayed three
times. The Holy Scriptures says to pray continuely asking over and over
again no matter how long it takes. YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") said to "keep
on asking and it will be given to you". You can repent!
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
17 Jan 2006 10:19:14 AM |
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Now wait a second. You are twisting the scriptures. Leaven is NOT
wrong to eat according to the Bible. Leaven was to be put out and
unleavened bread was to be eaten for SEVEN days. This was in
observance of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. And yes it did represent
sin and was a lesson to them. They were reminded of this every year.
But it clearly shows it was for only 7 days. Do you even keep these
Holy days that are commanded in the Bible?
Speaking of leaven(yeast) in the Bible: "You shall bring FROM YOUR
DWELLINGS two wave loaves of two-tenths of an ephah. They shall be of
fine flour; they shall be baked with LEAVEN. They are the firstfruits
to the Lord. And you shall proclaim on the same day that it is a holy
convocation to you. You shall do no customary work on it. It shall be a
statute FOREVER in all your dwellings throughout your generations."
This is talking about about the Feast of Pentecost...do you keep this
Holy Day that was to be a statute FOREVER? Note the positive reference
to leaven.
"And offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving with leaven" Not a sin
offering...but a thanksgiving offering. Another postive reference.
"Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto
leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the
whole was leavened." WOW! The Kingdom of God is refered to as leaven!
The Bible uses the analogy of leaven(yeast) because it has certain
properties. It was used to show how sin "puffs up"...but also how the
Kingdom of God will grow. You have to take the word as a whole. No
where does it state not to eat leaven except for the temporary 7 days
of the Feast of Unleavened bread.
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17 Jan 2006 08:11:41 PM |
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Yes the Holy Scriptures does not forbid the consumption of leavened
bread because in Satan's world we have to generally speaking eat bread
as a staple food. The original food was fruit from many trees that no
longer exist that will be returned. Technically yeast is unclean and
that is why it represents sin and this is why Hebrews practiced fasting
which was to remove defilement and poison from the body that a person
continuely consumes on a daily basis we being in a world ruled by
Satan.
Yes! It is fine that leavened bread is offered up as first fruits to
the Adonay (Lord or Master) YEHOVAH because this prefigured how YEHOVAH
would buy people from the Earth - that Satan was holding for ransom -
as first fruits from that olive tree mentioned in Romans. Notice the
first fruits are also mentioned in Revelation and they are the 144,000.
These people are not declared righteous because they are perfect and
sinless but because they fear YEHOVAH and exercise faith in the
sacrifice of YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus"). YEHOSHUVAH did say that it is not
what goes into a man that defiles a man but what comes out of his mouth
and that is wicked reasonings etc. that defile a man. You can
technically consume pig an unclean animal but as long as you keep your
conduct and heart in check you would remain in an approved state before
YEHOVAH. All the 144,000 that are bought as first fruits are just men
born with Adamic sin but we are declared Holy because of not a inate
inhernet holyness but because we fear YEHOVAH and exercise faith in the
sacifice of YEHOSHUVAH. So the leavened bread that was offered up as
first fruits only prefigured how YEHOVAH would take people for himself
that were born into Adamic sin (likened to leaven) and take them to
heaven to rule as kings and preist with His Male Offspring YEHOSHUVAH.
Notice that in Roman's were it speaks of the olive tree (a spiritual
jew tree) is says that if the first fruits are Holy then the *LUMP* is
also. The lump is the entire congregation of YEHOVAH's servants not
just a peice. o therefore the other spirit begotten "other sheep" or
the "Great Crowd" are also declared righteous by YEHOVAH not because
they are sinless (without leaven) but because they fear YEHOVAH and
exercise faith in the ransom sacrifice of YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus"). Satan
was holding all mankind for ransom. Satan had a rightful claim to all
mankind but YEHOSHUVAH's sacrifice paid the price that Satan was
holding over our heads. The only people that Satan will have a claim to
at Armagedon are willful unrepentent practicers of what is bad and evil
who do not fear YEHOVAH and exorcise faith in the sacrifice of His Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH.
Another note on the wine that YEHOSHUVAH spat out. The reason his
prophesy was fulfilled that he would not drink from the product of the
vine was the very fact that the only wine he was offered was drugged
wine. The Holy Scriptures makes it very clear that that wine he was
offered was drugged. Go here and read the best online translation of
the Holy Scriptures into modern English. http://www.watchtower.org
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I am takinmg the word YEHOVAH as a whole. You are the one who is trying
to make the Holy Scriptures fit with how you want to put your trust in
creation rather then the Creator. After all if you are putting your
trust in pharmacuticals then you are putting your trust in a creation
of man and even if the substance is naturally derived then a creation
of YEHOVAH and the Holy Scriptures does say that in the last days that
people would rnder worship to the creation rather then the Creator. If
you put your trust in anything that Satan or man has to offer then you
have the MARK OF THE BEAST and only those who are found not to have
that mark on judgement day (Armagedon) will survive into the paradise
Earth. http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
15 Jan 2006 07:59:24 PM |
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Not really so good of proof.
That was only to fulfill the prophecy in Mat 26:29: "But I say unto
you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that
day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom"...If he would
have drank the wine, he would have broken scripture...and "the
scripture cannot be broken".
And you didn't address why Timothy was told to take wine for his
"frequent stomach problems". We both know there are no inconsistencies
in the Bible...so why bring up your so called proof?
Witchcraft wrong,..yes. Medicine...not. And no, they aren't the same
thing. Witchcraft involved spiritism, soothsaying, etc...there is a
difference.
I think there are a lot of truths in your faith's doctrines. One of
the few religions that go by much of the Bible's teachings. However, I
think you need to have an open mind and entertain the thought that they
may not be correct on everything. You need to "prove all things" and
be like the Thessalonicans who "...received the word with all readiness
of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were
so." And to "study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, RIGHTLY dividing the word of truth".
I know you guys keep the seventh day (Sat.) Sabbath...which we keep as
well. Just curious, do you also keep the 7 Holy Days that are in the
Bible?
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| User: "John Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
15 Jan 2006 08:53:35 PM |
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In article <1137376764.101321.50800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
matchorno@verizon.net says...
Not really so good of proof.
No really so good of grammar, neither.
That was only to fulfill the prophecy in Mat 26:29: "But I say unto
you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that
day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom"...If he would
have drank the wine, he would have broken scripture...and "the
scripture cannot be broken".
Yes, it can.
Happens all the time.
:)
We both know there are no inconsistencies
in the Bible
Huh? The Book is littered with them.
Witchcraft wrong,..yes.
Really? Why, pray tell?
Witchcraft involved spiritism, soothsaying, etc...there is a
difference.
Not so much, really. It wasn't that long ago, that much of the "common
knowledge" of modern western medicine was condemned by The Church for
any number of sins, including Witchcraft.
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
- Arthur C. Clarke
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
16 Jan 2006 01:34:06 AM |
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Wine is food and and not medicine which is witchcraft. Alchohol when
consumed in moderation is actually food for the body. Food is healing
and you will suffer from deficiency deceases if you do not get the
proper food. Wine is food and not a drug.
Again YEHOSHUVAH (jesus) spat out the drugged wine that the Romans
tried to get him to drink when he was impaled on the stake. We are
supposed to be imitators of him. Medicine is Witchcraft plain and
simple. If you are putting your trust in pharmacuticals to heal you or
for your health then you have the mark of the beast.
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Interesting: Evil Freemasons and Thelemites and other occultits in the
United States Federal Government erased similar contents to what you
see below from the servers of Usenet trying to protect the "staus quo"
which means the "generally excepted view-point that is almost always
wrong". It was these occultists in the United States Government that
presured Bill Gates of Microsoft into giving the Federal Government a
Back Door into everyone's computers and the internet to alter anything
on any computer connected to the internet. This back door is now in the
hands of the occultists on the internet and I have seen the evidence
that this is so.
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The original word translated doctor or physician from greek meant
"healer" and they healed with Holy Spirit not Witchdoctor potions. The
Almighty Father YEHOVAH will answer prayers to Him to heal you if you
put full trust in Him to be healed and have patience. King Hezekiah in
the Holy Scriptures was healed from a terminal illness gradually the
Holy Scriptures says because he begged the Almighty Father YEHOVAH to
heal Him.
The word translated Sorcery in Revelation in the King James Bible is
the Greek word "pharmachea" and this is the same word that the English
word pharmacy comes from. In the New World Translation this word is
translated Spritism. If you look up in the Strong's Exhaustive
Concordance of the King James Bible and refernece the word in the Greek
dictionary in the back it will say the word means; "Druggest, Poisoner,
Witch, Sorceror, Maggi. Mage, Wizard, Shaman" and this is the same word
that the English word "pharmacist" comes from and a doctor or a
physician works hand in hand with the pharmacist. Especially dangerous
is today is the psychiatrist or the psychologist who prescribes drugs.
I posted similar info to this eariler and it was removed from the News
Groups that i am posting from. Evil people do not want you to know
these truths.
The word translated "Maggi" in the King James Version of the Bible
means "oriental scientist" and the English word "physician" means
"scientist". Of cource Maggi are Witches or Wizards or Sorcers or
Shaman
and the Holy Scriptures makes it very clear that they serve Satan's
interests. But they can repent! http://www.watchtower.org
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/love_will_rule_soon/The_Horrible_Truth_About_Psychiatric_Drugs.htm
http://www.tinyurl.com/7tnv3
See this link that psych drugs are poison from a venimous snake!
Below is what I left to a person on alt.freemasonry a place where
occultits hang out who believe in magick = witchcraft.
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The Un-Rev. 11D Meow! high preist in the Masonic Thelemic Church of the
Sub-Genius said: "Poisonally, I prefer Pop Rocks, thank very much."
http://z.about.com/d/altreligion/1/0/P/2/baph.jpg
If you really desire poison then drink your own semen because all
occultists do that. If you willfully unrepentently practice this then
you have truly damned. Consuming pharmacuticals is no different then
consuming semen because these pharmacuticals sprung from the minds of
those you practiced sex magick drinking semen. Pharmacuticals =
Medicine = Drugs is poison just like semen. Look the Baphomet is the
medical symbol the caduceus. Notice the two venemous serpants wrapping
his phallus and how his wings become the wings of the medical symbol
the caduceus. Witchdoctors have always been highly respected men in
their cultures among the pagans. Do you think it would be any different
among today's modern witchdoctors who are physicions? Adam and Eve did
eat the apple which was sexual fluids and the poison really did kill
them but Satan continues to promote the lie that you survive death as
an immortal spirit. He promotes this lie along with his demons by
pretending to be your dead ancestors and pretending to be "Ghosts".
Semen is loaded with the biochemical substances of Putricine (or
Putrecine) Spermidine and Spermine. Spermidine and Spermine are
involved in Nucleic acid replication in the body and especially the
brain. The brain is a DNA computer and all thought processes and
memories are encoded on the DNA of every cell in your brain. The
altered DNA of mankind from consuming the poison from the tree of the
knowlege of good and bad Adam's Penis which was also the original
serpent gave mankind the proclivity and drive to invent and construct
things and delve into science. This poison knowledge of Satan is
leading man into self destruction and collective suicide as he destroys
the very planet he lives on because all manufacturing processes are
raping the Earth and creating polutents that are destroying the very
planet we lived on. Yes Satan's poison knowledge from the forbidden
fruit is leading man into self destruction. And they do not have a good
heart to stop themselves because vaginal secretions and menustration
that occultists also consume in their sex magick rituals effect the
heart and corrupt it. The only this that can trun a man around and
remove this Adamic sin is to fear the Almighty Father YEHOVAH and
resolve in your heart to practice righteousness and accept His Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH as your personal Savious for forgiveness of your
sins. Say the prayer below that will change your live and lead in on
the road to salvation.
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Here is a prayer that will change your life and so you can get
protection from the most powerful body guard in the universe. It is
important not to replace the titles "Lord" and "God" with the Holy name
YEHOVAH when saying this prayer. And continue to ask for these things
day after day to make sure you are protected and not blind in anyway.
Dear YEHOVAH Elohim heavenly Father All Powerful One who created all
things. Please hear my prayer. I accept the sacrifice of your male
offspring YEHOSHUVAH for forgiveness of my sins. Please forgive me of
all the bad things I have done in my life. Please fill me with Holy
Spirit in the same manner as John the Baptist. Please make me do your
will so I can endure to the end so I can be saved. I know I have free
will but I give you permission to make me do your will because I want
to live forever. Please lift my blinders so that I am not blinded by
Satan in anyway. Please lead me to the truth in all things. Please give
me true wisdom, true understanding and true knowledge. Please remove
all the defilement from my body. Please give me a pure heart and a pure
mind. Please rewrite my heart and mind so that I love you compleately.
Please may your Holy Name YEHOVAH be viewed as Holy before everyone.
Please may your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Please
protect me from Satan and his demons and bad people and those who serve
Satan and his demons so that they can not cause me harm or trouble for
either me or my family. Please protect me from poisons and drugs and
medications and chemicals that I unknowingly consume or are forced upon
me. Please guide me to the truth in all things. Again please forgive me
of all my past wrongdoings because I accept the sacrifice of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH. Please give me faith beyond faith. Please give me
armors or righteousness. Please give me a sword of truth. Please give
me the helment of salvation. Please give me the fruitages of the
spirit. Please remove all the defilement from my body. I love you dear
Father YEHOVAH. Again please make me do your will because I want to
live forever. I pray these things through the name of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH who died for my sins so that I can be saved when I
endure to the end. Amen.
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/freemasonry_exposed/satanic_freemasonry.htm
At the link above it will show you who are responsible for the
degridation of society and that is the Freemasons and other occultists
and false religions like Jesuit Catholics who also promote
pharmacutical drugging of the people and have huge amounts of stock in
the pharmacutical industry.
Note to the argument that the "other sheep" or the "little flock"
should be born again and are in the Kingdom but on Earth are also
spiritual jews and should partake of the emblems. It may be argued that
there is a scriptures that says; "Flesh and blood can not inherit the
Kingdom of God". To inherit means to take possetion (sic) as property
from a Father. That can only be said of the 144,000 since they will be
in charge ruling as Kings and Preists in heaven. But the Kingdom of
YEHOVAH is both heavenly and Earthly and the other sheep will survive
Armagedon and live forever on the Earth.
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Here is a prayer that will change your life and so you can get
protection from the most powerful body guard in the universe. It is
important not to replace the titles "Lord" and "God" with the Holy name
YEHOVAH when saying this prayer. And continue to ask for these things
day after day to make sure you are protected and not blind in anyway.
Dear YEHOVAH Elohim heavenly Father All Powerful One who created all
things. Please hear my prayer. I accept the sacrifice of your male
offspring YEHOSHUVAH for forgiveness of my sins. Please forgive me of
all the bad things I have done in my life. Please fill me with Holy
Spirit in the same manner as John the Baptist. Please make me do your
will so I can endure to the end so I can be saved. I know I have free
will but I give you permission to make me do your will because I want
to live forever. Please lift my blinders so that I am not blinded by
Satan in anyway. Please lead me to the truth in all things. Please give
me true wisdom, true understanding and true knowledge. Please remove
all the defilement from my body. Please give me a pure heart and a pure
mind. Please rewrite my heart and mind so that I love you compleately.
Please may your Holy Name YEHOVAH be viewed as Holy before everyone.
Please may your will be done on Earth as it is in heaven. Please
protect me from Satan and his demons and bad people and those who serve
Satan and his demons so that they can not cause me harm or trouble for
either me or my family. Please protect me from poisons and drugs and
medications and chemicals that I unknowingly consume or are forced upon
me. Please guide me to the truth in all things. Again please forgive me
of all my past wrongdoings because I accept the sacrifice of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH. Please give me faith beyond faith. Please give me
armors or righteousness. Please give me a sword of truth. Please give
me the helment of salvation. Please give me the fruitages of the
spirit. Please remove all the defilement from my body. I love you dear
Father YEHOVAH. Again please make me do your will because I want to
live forever. I pray these things through the name of your Male
Offspring YEHOSHUVAH who died for my sins so that I can be saved when I
endure to the end. Amen. http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
16 Jan 2006 04:01:12 PM |
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John Nelson wrote:
matchorno@verizon.net says...
Not really so good of proof.
No really so good of grammar, neither.
Come on...you get the point...this is a news group...not a classroom.
I'm not writing scientific journals here...it's called casual writing.
That was only to fulfill the prophecy in Mat 26:29: "But I say unto
you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that
day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom"...If he would
have drank the wine, he would have broken scripture...and "the
scripture cannot be broken".
Yes, it can.
Happens all the time.
I beg to differ.
We both know there are no inconsistencies
in the Bible
Huh? The Book is littered with them.
Not true. Like I said before, most of the so-called inconsistencies
are pulled from Paul's writings. Peter said that his writings are for
some "hard to under and twisted by untrained men." I've read the Bible
completely through and have studied it every day for years. I've seen
things that at first seem to be inconsistencies, but upon further
investigation are always proved to be in line with the rest of the
Bible.
And the scholars, who make their living out of studying the Bible, will
agree. The Bible is "here a little, there a little", "precept built
upon precept". You have to "diligently search the scriptures" and dig
a little deeper into it to understand it.
What other book contains such detailed prophecies that have come true
hundreds of years after their writing? This definitely lends some
credence to it's inspiration.
Witchcraft wrong,..yes.
Really? Why, pray tell?
Witchcraft involved spiritism, soothsaying, etc...there is a
difference.
Not so much, really. It wasn't that long ago, that much of the "common
knowledge" of modern western medicine was condemned by The Church for
any number of sins, including Witchcraft.
Uh...you're saying modern medicine is the same as the witchcraft of
biblical times...we don't have doctors contacting spirits nowadays to
treat people. So I think we can be safe to say that there is a
difference. And The Church's stance does not really hold much water to
me.
They clearly (and admittedly so) don't follow all the doctrines of the
Bible, and have changed doctrines (such as Saturday to Sunday) that
they say they as men have the authority to do. So I don't have much
respect for what "The Church" has as their stance. And anyway, that
was as you say "not that long ago"...so I guess they realized they were
wrong and have changed their stance.
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| User: "John Nelson" |
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17 Jan 2006 01:43:08 PM |
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In article <1137448498.639363.89290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
matchorno@verizon.net says...
We both know there are no inconsistencies
in the Bible
Huh? The Book is littered with them.
Not true. Like I said before, most of the so-called inconsistencies
are pulled from Paul's writings. Peter said that his writings are for
some "hard to under and twisted by untrained men." I've read the Bible
completely through and have studied it every day for years. I've seen
things that at first seem to be inconsistencies, but upon further
investigation are always proved to be in line with the rest of the
Bible.
How, for example, do you reconcile the penalties called for in
Leviticus, for those who commit various "crimes", with the teachings of
your Messiah?
Not so much, really. It wasn't that long ago, that much of the "common
knowledge" of modern western medicine was condemned by The Church for
any number of sins, including Witchcraft.
Uh...you're saying modern medicine is the same as the witchcraft of
biblical times...
No, but I am saying that superstitious fools have been labeling medicine
(and science, in general) as "witchcraft" ("evil", "sinful", "against
God", etc.) ever since those advances started to threaten the religious
"authority".
we don't have doctors contacting spirits nowadays to
treat people.
You might be surprised at what "spooky" stuff is being explored in the
various scientific fields, medicine included.
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| User: "Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
18 Jan 2006 08:47:12 AM |
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John Nelson wrote:
How, for example, do you reconcile the penalties called for in
Leviticus, for those who commit various "crimes", with the teachings of
your Messiah?
The short answer is that they were under the old covenant. Christ
established the new covenant and through His sacrifice removed the
penalty of sin, which is death.
The author of Hebrews describes the physical ministry of the Levitical
priesthood: "It was symbolic for the present time in which both gifts
and sacrifices are offered which cannot make him who performed the
service perfect in regard to the conscience; concerned only with foods
and drinks, various washings, and FLESHLY ORDINANCES imposed until the
time of reformation" (Hebrews 9:9-10).
Animal sacrifices, washings and the CARNAL ORDINANCES of the Levitical
priesthood were added later, as we have seen-and are no longer
necessary for the "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16), now that the
sacrifice of Christ has been made and the Holy Spirit is available to
spiritually cleanse converted Christians.
love_will_rule_very_soon@yahoo.com wrote:
Yes the Holy Scriptures does not forbid the consumption of leavened
bread because in Satan's world we have to generally speaking eat bread
as a staple food.
It's not that we have to. The right kind of bread (not that "enriched"
bread) can be quite good for you. "Biblical principles also cover the
use of plant foods-carbohydrates. Ezekiel was instructed to make a
nutritious bread from "wheat, barley, beans, lentils, millet and spelt"
(Ezekiel 4:9). This was a multigrain bread containing complex
carbohydrates for energy, different kinds of fiber and multiple amino
acids for proteins and bodybuilding."
Technically yeast is unclean and
that is why it represents sin and this is why Hebrews practiced fasting
which was to remove defilement and poison from the body that a person
continuely consumes on a daily basis we being in a world ruled by
Satan.
Yeast does not represent sin because it is unclean. It represents sin
because of it's property of "puffing up". Sin "puffs up a person" with
vanity. The same reason it's like the Kingdom of God...it makes
something grow/puff up.
Notice the first fruits are also mentioned in Revelation and they are the 144,000.
These people are not declared righteous because they are perfect and
sinless but because they fear YEHOVAH and exercise faith in the
sacrifice of YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus").
Agreed
YEHOSHUVAH did say that it is not
what goes into a man that defiles a man but what comes out of his mouth
and that is wicked reasonings etc. that defile a man.
That verse is not talking about clean and unclean foods...but rather
the ceremonial washing of hands(see context of verse). See article "Do
You Really Want To Eat That?"
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/lcg/studytopics/lcg-st.cgi?category=Christianity1&item=1116549049
All of the "inconsistencies" on clean and unclean food are explained
there.
You can technically consume pig an unclean animal but as long as you keep your
conduct and heart in check you would remain in an approved state before
YEHOVAH.
Not true. It is unclean. See previous article on and this for further
information "Bible Health Laws":
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine29&item=1104248743
Especially the box at the bottom: "Did Jesus Abolish the Bible Health
Laws?"
Another note on the wine that YEHOSHUVAH spat out. The reason his
prophesy was fulfilled that he would not drink from the product of the
vine was the very fact that the only wine he was offered was drugged
wine.
Remember that turning wine into water was the first recorded miracle of
Jesus. Would Jesus do this if wine was a sin?
And "Even Jesus' parable of the "good Samaritan" shows that-in case
of injury-it is important to bind up wounds and apply oil and WINE to
prevent cuts from becoming infected." See article " Does God Heal
Today?", especially box titled "What About Doctors and Medicine?"
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/magazine/tw-mag.cgi?category=Magazine15&item=1104094530
I am takinmg the word YEHOVAH as a whole. You are the one who is trying
to make the Holy Scriptures fit with how you want to put your trust in
creation rather then the Creator.
If you are taking it as a whole, how come you are ignoring some very
clear scriptures that I am pointing out? The best way to look at the
Bible is to first look at the clear scripures. That will help you to
see the more "difficult" scripures with the right perspective.
I am not putting my trust in the creation. My trust is in God. He
made a wonderful creation that He gave to us to USE and have dominion
over.
If you put your trust in anything that Satan or man has to offer then you
have the MARK OF THE BEAST...
For a better understanding of the Mark of the Beast, see article: "The
Beast of Revelation: Myth, Metaphor or Soon-Coming Reality?"
http://www.lcg.org/cgi-bin/tw/booklets/tw-bk.cgi?category=Booklets1&item=1104414543
Especailly the section 'The Beast's Mysterious Mark'
And if you really live by the Bible, how come you still have answered
if you keep the Holy Days outlined in the scriptures?
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| User: "John Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
18 Jan 2006 12:19:18 PM |
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In article <1137595632.564434.16240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
matchorno@verizon.net says...
John Nelson wrote:
How, for example, do you reconcile the penalties called for in
Leviticus, for those who commit various "crimes", with the teachings of
your Messiah?
The short answer is that they were under the old covenant. Christ
established the new covenant and through His sacrifice removed the
penalty of sin, which is death.
The shorter answer then, is that you can't reconcile those conflicts.
The exist, in writing, in the Book you hold to be the unerring word of
God. You are certainly entitled to believe what you like about those
words. A dispassionate review of them, however, renders the conflicts
therein as plain as day.
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| User: "Matt" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
19 Jan 2006 09:00:28 AM |
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John Nelson wrote:
The shorter answer then, is that you can't reconcile those conflicts.
The exist, in writing, in the Book you hold to be the unerring word of
God. You are certainly entitled to believe what you like about those
words. A dispassionate review of them, however, renders the conflicts
therein as plain as day.
"God gave Israel many statutes and judgments that made up the ancient
nation's actual civil law. The statutes and judgments were the "law
of the land"-interpretations based directly on a "letter of the law"
magnification of the Ten Commandments as applied to specific issues.
God imposed a civil law while He was working with a nation. In the New
Testament He extended His covenant also to the Gentiles, "spiritual
Israelites". He began to work with a people (the beginning of the
first church)...which had no "national civil law".
The book of Hebrews addresses the New Covenant specifically, more so
than any other book in the New Testament. We read: "But now He [Christ]
has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator
of a better covenant, which was established on better promises"
(Hebrews 8:6). The New Covenant is not established on different laws,
but on better promises-the promised indwelling help of the Holy
Spirit and the reward of eternal life!
Continuing: "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no
place would have been sought for a second. Because FINDING FAULT with
them, He says: 'Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I
will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of
Judah'" (vv. 7-8).
God found fault with ancient Israel. They could not keep from sin, and
God had established that the penalty of sin was death. With the old
covenant (which spelled out promises for obedience and disobedience),
everyone's penalty would be death (as the laws in Leviticus mandated).
Christ not only came to pay the penalty of the law, He offered the Holy
Spirit. He said that He would "write His laws on our heart"...so we
would be able to keep the law (even though the death penalty was taken
away by His sacrifice). He offered a "better" covenant, with better
promises.
Christ sacrifice was a huge turning point in history. It had to
happen, or the penalty of sin (death) would remain. Things changed.
Is God not allowed to change? If He didn't, we'd still be under the
Old Covenant, and would be in a lot of trouble. If you call change, an
inconsistency, then so be it.
Perhaps your dispassionate review should include a thorough study of
these "covenants" and the impact they had. Pages and pages can be
written about them. I can only quote a few. I find it hard to believe
that someone who doesn't believe in the Bible, would really have taken
the amount of diligence and time to prove/disprove these things.
A superficial look at the scriptures will indeed produce some so-called
inconsistencies. But the Bible is a big book...and must be taken as a
whole in order to understand the individual scriptures.
I do believe that you have the right to believe whatever you want. But
I still stand by the fact that the "truth" is the truth. No book has
stood the time with the closest scrutiny as the Bible. Ask the
scholars who study it for a living.
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| User: "Beaverfolk" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
18 Jan 2006 09:08:16 AM |
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Matt wrote:
Remember that turning wine into water was the first recorded miracle of
Jesus.
Well, wasn't it the other way around?
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| User: "Matt" |
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18 Jan 2006 09:46:54 AM |
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Beaverfolk wrote:
Matt wrote:
Remember that turning wine into water was the first recorded miracle of
Jesus.
Well, wasn't it the other way around?
Yikes!...Yes, that's what I meant to say ( :
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| User: "Matt" |
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18 Jan 2006 09:57:53 AM |
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Why do you make such a huge deal out of the name YEHOVAH? It seems
like your whole religion is based on that one doctrine. I don't get
it.
There are many names for God in the Bible, each showing a different
aspect of God's character. Why do you limit it to the one?
http://www.bible.org/page.asp?page_id=220 ...shows a few of the names.
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| User: "" |
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19 Jan 2006 08:07:46 PM |
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YEHOVAH Elohim (Jehovah God) has many titles but only ONE Name.
Psalms 83:18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
This is why we make a big deal out of the use of the Holy Name YEHOVAH.
Evil people in the world want to sweep His Holy Name under a rug so
nobody will no what that name is in defiance of the scripture quoted
above.
Also since Satan is even called a "god" in the Holy Scriptures it
become very clear that when we pray and make public declaration we need
to let everyone know just what deity we are worshipping.
http://www.angelfire.com/planet/freemasonry_exposed/satanic_freemasonry.htm
Notice on this link that Freemasons profess belief in a "god" and will
even quote the Bible at times but when you examine what they are really
saying they are actually worshipping Satan. So the use of the Holy Name
YEHOVAH is VERY important because we need to make certain the Almighty
Father YEHOVAH knows we are refering to Him and not Satan.
http://www.an
gelfire.com/pla
net/freem
asonry_expo
sed/satan
ic_freema
sonry.htm
Here is the link broken just in case it was filtered out for you.
These occultists can repent! http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "Matt" |
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20 Jan 2006 12:11:39 PM |
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wrote:
YEHOVAH Elohim (Jehovah God) has many titles but only ONE Name.
Psalms 83:18 That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
This is why we make a big deal out of the use of the Holy Name YEHOVAH.
Evil people in the world want to sweep His Holy Name under a rug so
nobody will no what that name is in defiance of the scripture quoted
above.
Also since Satan is even called a "god" in the Holy Scriptures it
become very clear that when we pray and make public declaration we need
to let everyone know just what deity we are worshipping.
Romans 8:26-28 26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we
do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself
intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. 27 And he who
searches hearts knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because the
Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.
The power of God "intercedes" on our behalf...even when we don't know
what to pray for.
God knows our hearts. I think God is powerful enough to know when we
are talking to Him. If I start a prayer with "God, our Father in
Heaven", and go on to praise Him for His creation, His great works....I
don't think He will be "confused" that I am talking to Satan.
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| User: "Joe Steve Swick III" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
18 Jan 2006 04:59:26 PM |
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___Matt___
Remember that turning wine into water was the first recorded miracle of
Jesus.
___Marta___
Well, wasn't it the other way around?
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Yes, through some rather common biological alchemy, men quite frequently
turn wine into water. However, the other way 'round is a bit trickier, I'm
told.
JSW
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| User: "Beaverfolk" |
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| Title: Re: Proof "Medicine" is Witchcraft and condemened in the Holy Scriptures. |
18 Jan 2006 05:42:00 PM |
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Joe Steve Swick III wrote:
___Matt___
Remember that turning wine into water was the first recorded miracle of
Jesus.
___Marta___
Well, wasn't it the other way around?
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Yes, through some rather common biological alchemy, men quite frequently
turn wine into water.
Yes, but this is not the 'miracle' Matt wanted to talk about!
However, the other way 'round is a bit trickier, I'm
told.
Well, trickier or not it is possible to achieve it without 'the
miracle'! :-)
JSW
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| User: "" |
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17 Jan 2006 05:54:02 AM |
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The Holy Scriptures makes it very clear that there was a drug in the
wine that was given YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") and he did take some of it
into his mouth but when he reconised that it was drugged wine he spat
it out.
Wine is not a drug but rather food for the body. Alchohol is when
consumed in moderation is actually digested in the liver and converted
to energy.
You would consume food also for the sake of your stomach if you had
hunger pains. But is the food a drug? NO!
I believe that anyone who is serving YEHOVAH in complete truth will be
protected from calamity and even if YEHOVAH does allow something to
happen if you put your trust in Him he will heal you gradually. I had
an infected sore on my leg recently that stayed there for almost three
months before it healed. I refused to take antibiotics and for that i
was blessed because my immune system is stronger for it. Antibiotics
are made from mold which is related to yeast. Mold is very unclean.
Consuming semen may seem "harmless" to many doctors but it poisons the
body and defiles it just as antibiotics do. Recently also I had
conjunctivitis (sore red eyes) that spat out puss in large quantities
that was similar in appearence to varnish. I refused to go to a doctor
and I prayed continuely. My eyes swelled up almost shut and my eyes
even became blackened like someone had punched me in the face. After
three weeks of constinus prayer my eyes were back to normal without
medication. Recently I got an itchy skin disease that persisted and
even it is going away now. I am telling you truthfully if you put your
trust in the Almighty Father YEHOVAH and worship Him in compleate
spirit and truth he will cure any ailment. I am quite certain that
Satan caused these problems for me just as he caused Job to have skin
disease. Did Job take medication for the skin disease that Satan gave
him? NO! But I bet the Egyptians were using medication for the skin
disease that YEHOVAH gave them during the 10 plagues of Egypt! You can
repent! http://www.watchtower.org
In the old testament the reason the Levites the Preistly tribe did not
consume the fat of the animal and how it had to be burned as an
offering to YEHOVAH is because the fat of the animal is what stores the
poisons from the plants that the animal consumes. These poisons are
psychoactive and the Levites needed to keep their minds clean and
undefiled so they could think clearly because they were responsible for
teaching the people. For instance an unclean animal the rain deer today
likes to eat the psychodelic animita muscaria mushroom and the active
psychoactive substance of the mushrooms they consume are actually
stored in the fat of the animal and if you consume the fat of those
raindeer who will have a psychodelic experience. Even yeast a fungus is
technically something that is unclean although YEHOVAH tolerated its
consumption in bread. The fact that the bread that YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus")
used during the Lord's Eavening Meal (also called the last super) was
unleavened bread meaning it had no yeast in it. The yeast represented
sin because technically from a very strict sense even yeast is unclean
it being a fungus. Fasting cleanses the body and that is why Hebrews
fasted so that they would have clear spiritual insight. That is why
YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") went into the wildernace for 30 days to fast so
that he would be able to think very clearly and have clear spiritual
insight. Satan did not want him to achieve this spiritual awakening so
he tried to get him to eat bread by telling him to turn stones into
bread. In the Holy Scriptures in some places a stone is symbolic of a
testicle and that was the original sin consuming sexual fluids. Yes
even yeast is unclean. Remember the Levites did not consume the fat of
any animal even though they were clean under the Mosaic laws because
the poisons of the plants the animal consumes are stored in the fat of
the animal. The reason Westerners are so fat is because of all the
pharmacuticals they consume that are stored in their fat.
"Antipsychotic" drugs or tranquilizers or neuroleptics bind to lipids
in the body or the fat in the body. These drugs are stored in the fat
of a person which is another reason these drugs will make a person blow
up like a ballon and get fat very quickly.
http://www.tinyurl.com/7tnv3
http://www.angelfire.com/az3/love_will_rule_soon/The_Horrible_Truth_About_Psychiatric_Drugs.htm
In Revelation the word translated Sorcery in the King James Version of
the Bible is the Greek word pharmachea the same word the English word
pharmacist comes from. The Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the King
James Bible defines the word in the back in the Greek Dictionary as
"Druggest, Poisoner, Witch, Socerer, Wizard, Mage, Maggi, Shamen" and
if you wanted to add more you could add doctor and pysicion (sic). In
the King James version the word that appears in the text as Maggi is
defined in the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance as "Oriental Scientists"
and of cource a maggi is a witch. Sorry to break it to you but you are
very wrong about the use of drugs or medicine.
The "torn in the flesh" of Paul was not a disease but rather a "spirit
of Satan that kept slapping him" as the scripture reveals and Paul said
the reason YEHOVAH did not prevent it was because it was for the
purpose that he would not become too overly exhaulted so he did not
become puffed up with pride. Paul's problem was he only prayed three
times. The Holy Scriptures says to pray continuely asking over and over
again no matter how long it takes. YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") said to "keep
on asking and it will be given to you". You can repent!
http://www.watchtower.org
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| User: "" |
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17 Jan 2006 09:56:06 PM |
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Larry Williams the point is that if drugs are ever forved on a
Christian they should so their best to reject it. Even if the drug or
poison is injected by force into a person YEHOVAH will protect that
person. The Holy Scriptures says that *TRUE* Christians would be able
to handle snakes and they will not harm that person and also drink
poison and it will not harm them. Of cource not if it was done
deliberately. The apostle Paul was unharmed by the venimous serpent
that bit him. We have that as proof that YEHOVAH will protect us from
witches if we are doing His will and putting trust in Him to the full.
Modern Witches who are scientists are flooding the Earth with poison
they manufacture in their labs so the Christian must continuely pray to
YEHOVAH through YEHOSHUVAH to bless the food before we consume it so
that it does not defile their body and it will pass through the
intestines and not defile you as YEHOSHUVAH ("jesus") promised. A
Christian must do his very best to consume a wholesome diet of whole
unprocessed food as humanly possible in this wicked world controlled by
wicked men under the control of Satan. This would include not consuming
chemicals in processed foods and soda pop like Cola and Mountain Dew
etc. and even so called "Juice Drinks" that are more chemicals then
juice. http://www.watchtower.org
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17 Jan 2006 09:55:38 PM |
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