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Sociology > Depression |
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"Nancy Verzich" |
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16 Oct 2003 12:04:06 AM |
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Hi all...I'm a lurker here because I've sorta been diagnosed with OCD. I say
sorta because I wasn't sure then (and still not) whether the Dr. was right
or not. I went to him years ago because of a HORRIBLE worry that I had for
my father. He was 51 when I was born, so he was a senior citizen most of my
life. I have ALWAYS worried about him, way more than anyone should worry
about someone. Finally, I got the nerve to go and talk to someone about it,
and she said is was O/C, but mainly obsessive, because of the worrying. I
don't do anything strange (counting, or checking things, anything like that)
but I DO worry like crazy. My father died in 2001, so of course, that worry
is off my mind now.
My husband and I and the kids moved from my hometown to his hometown after
my father passed away. I don't know anyone down here, besides my husband's
family. Anyway, our financial situation has gone from bad to worse since
we've come down here, and I worry about that all the time. I quit my job in
April, and in June, I was diagnosed with Type II diabetes. I am not working
right now, because we only have one car and my husband's job is over an hour
away and he uses the car. He has a good job right now, and at least we are
starting to be able to get some of the utility bills paid down to a
manageable level. But I have been stressing over the money, the bills, my
health, etc, for a LONG time, and I think its taking a toll on me.
I had Paxil after I first moved down here, for the worry....but it caused me
to have NO sexual desire at all and my hubby and I fought all the time about
it, so I quit taking it. It did help tho. I still have half a bottle left.
Anyway, lately, I've been starting to worry about stupid things......
I can't sleep, and when I finally DO go to bed, after my hubby leaves around
4am, I lay up there and imagine that there is someone at the door. Or that
the house is on fire. Or something. Its always SOMETHING. So, I get up and
stay up til daylight, when my daughter goes to school, then I try to go back
to bed. I'm ok then, because my son, who is older (17) is home and he could
handle whatever goes wrong, so I can relax knowing that someone else is
"minding the fort" while I sleep.
My daughter's school bus was about 10 minutes late yesterday. I LOGICALLY
figured that nothing was wrong, the poor bus driver has to deal with 50 6
and 7 yr olds, sometimes the bus COULD be late! But...ILLOGICALLY, in my
mind, some child (and I was CERTAIN it was my daugher) had gotten run over
when trying to get on the bus...they couldn't call me (we don't have a phone
right now) so I sat here waiting for the cops to come to my door to break
the bad news.
I have been doing stupid things, making stupid mistakes too, like putting
spices in the refrigerator, and forgetting to do everyday little things that
I do all the time. Nothing major, just like forgetting to turn out the light
when I leave a room, stuff like that.
I have started taking my Paxil again. They are over a year old, and I intend
to go back to my doctor (just a GP) and explain to him that I need more. I'm
sure he'll give them to me, not a problem. I'm worried about the arguing
that I'll get from my hubby again, if I lose interest in sex, but HE even
told me to start taking them again and we'd "work something out". I'm pretty
sure that they will work and get me back on the right track again....at
least I'm hoping!
Anyway, for the last two days, since I've been taking the Paxil, I have had
no appetite, even when I havent' eaten for hours and my stomach is growling.
Nothing looks good. And when I DO eat (I have to eat something because of
the diabetes) I only eat a small bit and I feel full and done. Of
course....this only makes me think that now I have cancer or something, on
TOP of the diabetes! ARGHHHH!!! Did anyone else ever notice that Paxil can
upset your stomach? Also..does this sound like depression or OCD??
TIA, I appreciate your help!
Nancy
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| User: "wombn" |
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16 Oct 2003 12:34:30 AM |
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1) I don't know anything about OCD so I can't comment on that.
Although, it could "simply" be general anxiety, I suppose. The
forgetting things, that's possibly a result of your anxiety
distracting you from what you're doing. Your brain is off somewhere
else all the time. So it's hard to concentrate on what you're doing
right now. My therp kept me diagnosed as "general anxiety" until
things got bad enough for meds, then she'd bump me up to "depression"
(for insurance purposes, I guess). You might be at "anxiety" that can
lead to OCD? I dunno. I'm not trained in any of this.
2) Paxil isn't the only drug available. I don't know which ones cause
less libido-suppression though. Maybe Wellbutrin? It's worth asking
your doctor about.
3) After 4 years on insulin (I'm Type 1), I've finally decided that
Type 2's have it much harder. I can always shoot up more or less
insulin. You have very little control over those pills. Be sure to
check out alt.support.diabetes. Lots of knowledgeable people over
there. Most of them Type 2 (because it's more common). I haven't
been there in awhile, but they're very supportive--unless they find
out you're cheating on your treatment. Then they'll ream you a new
*****. Lovingly, though. :-)
4) Welcome to asd
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "Nancy Verzich" |
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16 Oct 2003 12:46:34 AM |
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Hi wombn, thanks for your reply. You are absolutely right about the stupid
little "forgetful" things that I'm doing, thats what I told my husband. My
mind is so full of other thoughts right now that actually THINKING about
where to put the spices just isn't something that I care to do LOL. About
the Paxil and there being other meds, yep, I know, but I just remember how
much the Paxil helped the last time, and I'm kinda afraid to try something
new, at least right now in the beginning. If I don't start feeling better
soon (I've read that it can take up to two weeks to start working, so I'll
give it that much time at least) then I will ask for something else.
I do go to alt.support.diabetes and you are right, they ARE very helpful,
but they DEFINITELY can rip you a new ***** when you go off your diet or
"cheat" a little LOL I haven't posted much there lately, because truthfully,
I haven't been following my diet and my numbers are back up some. I'm sure
thats not helping me to feel any better, although I seemed to feel better
when the numbers were higher than when they were lower. Oh well.
Anyway, thanks for your quick response, once again I can't sleep and am
checking and rechecking newsgroups LOL
Nancy
"wombn" <wombnhearmeroar@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:g0bsovo91emiecpud0kvna2q84aqsfsba9@4ax.com...
1) I don't know anything about OCD so I can't comment on that.
Although, it could "simply" be general anxiety, I suppose. The
forgetting things, that's possibly a result of your anxiety
distracting you from what you're doing. Your brain is off somewhere
else all the time. So it's hard to concentrate on what you're doing
right now. My therp kept me diagnosed as "general anxiety" until
things got bad enough for meds, then she'd bump me up to "depression"
(for insurance purposes, I guess). You might be at "anxiety" that can
lead to OCD? I dunno. I'm not trained in any of this.
2) Paxil isn't the only drug available. I don't know which ones cause
less libido-suppression though. Maybe Wellbutrin? It's worth asking
your doctor about.
3) After 4 years on insulin (I'm Type 1), I've finally decided that
Type 2's have it much harder. I can always shoot up more or less
insulin. You have very little control over those pills. Be sure to
check out alt.support.diabetes. Lots of knowledgeable people over
there. Most of them Type 2 (because it's more common). I haven't
been there in awhile, but they're very supportive--unless they find
out you're cheating on your treatment. Then they'll ream you a new
*****. Lovingly, though. :-)
4) Welcome to asd
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "wombn" |
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| Title: Re: Question |
16 Oct 2003 03:17:01 AM |
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 05:46:34 GMT, "Nancy Verzich"
<nverzich906@adelphia.net> wrote:
Hi wombn, thanks for your reply. You are absolutely right about the stupid
little "forgetful" things that I'm doing, thats what I told my husband. My
mind is so full of other thoughts right now that actually THINKING about
where to put the spices just isn't something that I care to do LOL. About
:-D
When I was having a really bad spell of this kind of thing my therp
had me read up on "mindfulness". I'm sure my bookmarks on this are
way too old, but you'll get a lot of hits on it in Yahoo, I'm sure.
I also had to carry around a tiny spiral notebook (3x5) to write notes
to myself.
Of course, that didn't help much when I'd do something simple like
cross the room to get a pair of scissors. I mean, that's not
something you write a note for! grrr. Drove me nuts.
My pdoc put me on cylert for awhile. It's an ADD drug. I didn't
notice much improvement, really. Just a little, but not enough to
keep me from being fired.
the Paxil and there being other meds, yep, I know, but I just remember how
much the Paxil helped the last time, and I'm kinda afraid to try something
new, at least right now in the beginning. If I don't start feeling better
soon (I've read that it can take up to two weeks to start working, so I'll
give it that much time at least) then I will ask for something else.
oh! Right after I posted that, I saw an ad on TV about Wellbutrin and
they were emphasizing its lack of sexual side effects.
I do go to alt.support.diabetes and you are right, they ARE very helpful,
but they DEFINITELY can rip you a new ***** when you go off your diet or
"cheat" a little LOL
:-D
I haven't posted much there lately, because truthfully,
I haven't been following my diet and my numbers are back up some. I'm sure
ouch.
thats not helping me to feel any better, although I seemed to feel better
when the numbers were higher than when they were lower. Oh well.
I know what you mean! My doc has given me orders to stay under 120
all day every day and get down to 60 before meals, in case I actually
finally get pregnant (which is looking doubtful). Do you think I
manage it very often? HA. Around the mid-80's I start feeling hypo.
She says tough it out and get my body used to the lower BGs. 3 years
later I'm still fighting it and fighting hypo-fear. I've gotten as
low as 28 once and nearly peed my pants--so did the friend who was
with me (she's type 2). She was about ready to call 911, even though
I was completely lucid.
Anyway, thanks for your quick response, once again I can't sleep and am
checking and rechecking newsgroups LOL
I know nothing about that particular phenomenon. <aloof, pious look>
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If laughter is the best medicine,
then kittens should be covered by our health insurance. :-)
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| User: "HerbsAcadiana" |
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16 Oct 2003 11:49:17 AM |
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From: "Nancy Verzich"
(Snipped) I have started taking my Paxil again. They are over a year old, and
I intend
to go back to my doctor (just a GP)
From your post and the above quote, I would say you need to see someone more
current with diagnosis and treatment of mood disorders. There are
antidepressants that do not affect sexual function, and your diagnosis needs to
be confirmed. Especially since it has been lifelong and continues to progress.
Go to a clinic that treats according to ability to pay if you have to.
Here's to a calmer future, greater prosperity, and happiness for you.
Henrietta
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| User: "Whiskers" |
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16 Oct 2003 04:42:32 PM |
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In alt.support.depression on Thursday 16 Oct 2003 6:04 am, Nancy Verzich
<nverzich906@adelphia.net> wrote:
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TIA, I appreciate your help!
Nancy
Hello Nancy:)) I can't top what others have said, except to add that it
might be worth getting a test for thyroid problems.
Welcome to ASD!
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-- Whiskers <http://www.aacit.net>
-- ~~~~~~~~~~ <news:alt.autos.citroen>
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| User: "Jernau Gurgeh" |
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16 Oct 2003 11:56:43 AM |
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Nancy Verzich wrote on 16 Oct 2003 in alt.support.depression
Hi all...I'm a lurker here because I've sorta been diagnosed with OCD.
I say sorta because I wasn't sure then (and still not) whether the Dr.
was right or not. I went to him years ago because of a HORRIBLE worry
that I had for my father. He was 51 when I was born, so he was a
senior citizen most of my life. I have ALWAYS worried about him, way
more than anyone should worry about someone. Finally, I got the nerve
to go and talk to someone about it, and she said is was O/C, but
mainly obsessive, because of the worrying. I don't do anything strange
(counting, or checking things, anything like that) but I DO worry like
crazy. My father died in 2001, so of course, that worry is off my mind
now.
<snip>
I can't sleep, and when I finally DO go to bed, after my hubby leaves
around 4am, I lay up there and imagine that there is someone at the
door. Or that the house is on fire. Or something. Its always
SOMETHING. So, I get up and stay up til daylight, when my daughter
goes to school, then I try to go back to bed. I'm ok then, because my
son, who is older (17) is home and he could handle whatever goes
wrong, so I can relax knowing that someone else is "minding the fort"
while I sleep.
My daughter's school bus was about 10 minutes late yesterday. I
LOGICALLY figured that nothing was wrong, the poor bus driver has to
deal with 50 6 and 7 yr olds, sometimes the bus COULD be late!
But...ILLOGICALLY, in my mind, some child (and I was CERTAIN it was my
daugher) had gotten run over when trying to get on the bus...they
couldn't call me (we don't have a phone right now) so I sat here
waiting for the cops to come to my door to break the bad news.
<snip>
Anyway, for the last two days, since I've been taking the Paxil, I
have had no appetite, even when I havent' eaten for hours and my
stomach is growling. Nothing looks good. And when I DO eat (I have to
eat something because of the diabetes) I only eat a small bit and I
feel full and done. Of course....this only makes me think that now I
have cancer or something, on TOP of the diabetes! ARGHHHH!!! Did
anyone else ever notice that Paxil can upset your stomach? Also..does
this sound like depression or OCD??
Hi,
nausea is one of the side effects of Paxil, though this should pass as
you get accustomed to the drug. If it doesn't, talk to your dr about it.
And, it should take about four weeks before the Paxil reaches it's full
effect.
About the other thing, it does not sound like textbook OCD to me, though
I must admit that I haven't read all that much on the subject. But
whether it's OCD or just thoughts turning on themselves and spiraling
ever deeper, you may want to have a look into Cognitive Behavioral
Therapy, which might be very useful in dealing with this kinda thing (and
many other forms where the mind turns onto itself.
Here's a primer:
http://tinyurl.com/r6bf
That's from a British site, though CBT is practised in many forms all
over the world, and the principles are always the same. Chances are that
you will be able to find a group or therapist somewhere in your area.
Good luck.
Jernau
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By Endurance We Conquer
-E. Shackleton
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