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"Tim Bruening" |
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25 Mar 2005 07:02:15 PM |
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Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
Robin May wrote:
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote the following in:
news:424255A7.ED2C38EC@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us
According to attorney Barbara Weller, one of the attorneys
representing Terri's parents, Mary and Bob Schindler Sr., when her
parents and attorneys visited Terri at the Woodside Hospice where
she resides to tell her they were going to remove her feeding
tube, Terri began to cry and tried to say "I want to live."
Saying "I want to live" isn't really possible when your brain is
largely destroyed.
According to Barbara, she uttered the syllables "I wa..." in response to
the question "Do you want to live?". I therefore believe that she
should not be made to die until she can be questioned and examined more
thoroughly. In cases such as Terri's, when there's uncertainty, we
should err on the side of life.
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| User: "RGB" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
25 Mar 2005 10:17:17 PM |
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In article <4244B497.23D819C0@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
According to Barbara, she uttered the syllables "I wa..." in response
to the question "Do you want to live?".
If you listen to the theme from the "Mister Ed" TV show played
backwards, you can, if you try hard enough, hear the voice say "someone
sung this song for Satan" and "the source is the Devil".
It's not hard to imagine how someone with this much vested in hearing
her say something like "I want to live" could hear her say pretty much
whatever they want to hear her say in the form of a few ounces of air
squeezed out of a unevenly tightened airway. "AAA-RAAA" becomes her
"trying" to say "I want to live". Give me a fucking break.
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| User: "Charles" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
25 Mar 2005 10:43:13 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:17:17 GMT, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <4244B497.23D819C0@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
According to Barbara, she uttered the syllables "I wa..." in response
to the question "Do you want to live?".
If you listen to the theme from the "Mister Ed" TV show played
backwards, you can, if you try hard enough, hear the voice say "someone
sung this song for Satan" and "the source is the Devil".
It's not hard to imagine how someone with this much vested in hearing
her say something like "I want to live" could hear her say pretty much
whatever they want to hear her say in the form of a few ounces of air
squeezed out of a unevenly tightened airway. "AAA-RAAA" becomes her
"trying" to say "I want to live". Give me a fucking break.
where's that psychic lady that used to advertise on TV? I bet she
could tell us what Terri wants.
--
Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "Catybu" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
25 Mar 2005 10:49:28 PM |
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"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote in message
news:46q941lqcku8ljpmoec4tuuh6c420un89a@4ax.com...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:17:17 GMT, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <4244B497.23D819C0@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
According to Barbara, she uttered the syllables "I wa..." in response
to the question "Do you want to live?".
If you listen to the theme from the "Mister Ed" TV show played
backwards, you can, if you try hard enough, hear the voice say "someone
sung this song for Satan" and "the source is the Devil".
It's not hard to imagine how someone with this much vested in hearing
her say something like "I want to live" could hear her say pretty much
whatever they want to hear her say in the form of a few ounces of air
squeezed out of a unevenly tightened airway. "AAA-RAAA" becomes her
"trying" to say "I want to live". Give me a fucking break.
where's that psychic lady that used to advertise on TV? I bet she
could tell us what Terri wants.
Finally, someone comes up with a viable solution.
Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "RGB" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
25 Mar 2005 10:51:24 PM |
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In article <46q941lqcku8ljpmoec4tuuh6c420un89a@4ax.com>,
Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote:
where's that psychic lady that used to advertise on TV?
I bet she could tell us what Terri wants.
I'm sure there are going to be plenty of psychics receiving messages
from Terri Schiavo from beyond the grave, and that we'll be reading all
about it at supermarket checkouts across the country. Maybe she'll tell
us where Osama is hiding.
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| User: "Charles" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
25 Mar 2005 11:00:47 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:51:24 GMT, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <46q941lqcku8ljpmoec4tuuh6c420un89a@4ax.com>,
Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote:
where's that psychic lady that used to advertise on TV?
I bet she could tell us what Terri wants.
I'm sure there are going to be plenty of psychics receiving messages
from Terri Schiavo from beyond the grave, and that we'll be reading all
about it at supermarket checkouts across the country. Maybe she'll tell
us where Osama is hiding.
I wonder if we have any psychically guided cruise missiles. I've
never heard of them, that would indicate that we have them and are
keeping them secret.
--
Charles
Does not play well with others.
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| User: "Dr. Siddhartha Vicious" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
26 Mar 2005 02:32:40 AM |
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"Charles" <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote in message
news:v5r9415d7ugni6orvhucsof28kivsb9io7@4ax.com...
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 04:51:24 GMT, RGB <rrggbb@mac.com> wrote:
In article <46q941lqcku8ljpmoec4tuuh6c420un89a@4ax.com>,
Charles <ckraft@SPAMTRAPwest.net> wrote:
where's that psychic lady that used to advertise on TV?
I bet she could tell us what Terri wants.
I'm sure there are going to be plenty of psychics receiving messages
from Terri Schiavo from beyond the grave, and that we'll be reading all
about it at supermarket checkouts across the country. Maybe she'll tell
us where Osama is hiding.
I wonder if we have any psychically guided cruise missiles. I've
never heard of them, that would indicate that we have them and are
keeping them secret.
I haven't seen them behind my refrigerator. That's where they must be
located.
--
Proud member of the reality-based community
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
25 Mar 2005 11:40:14 PM |
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On 2005-03-26, Charles wrote:
In article <4244B497.23D819C0@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
Tim Bruening <tsbrueni@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
According to Barbara, she uttered the syllables "I wa..." in response
to the question "Do you want to live?".
where's that psychic lady that used to advertise on TV? I bet she
could tell us what Terri wants.
The only person in the whole affair claiming psychic ability is
George Felos, Michael Schiavo's lawyer.
#v+
"Most times this "knowing" for me is sensed as a feeling. Sometimes I hear
it, and sometimes I see it. This is not to say that I go around every day
intuiting tomorrow's events. I'm stuck in my head a good portion of the
time, like most of us in our mentally over-developed culture."
#v-
<http://www.bluedolphinpublishing.com/Litigation.htm>
From a review of his book, Litigation as Spiritual Practice:
#v+
Felos clearly believes in reincarnation and even discusses a conversation
with his yet-to-be-conceived, unborn son, who told Felos, "I'm ready to be
born... will you stop this fooling around!" (p75)
Felos writes that he was able to communicate with the radically
debilitated stroke victim who could not talk. He writes:
"As I continued to stay beside Mrs. Browning at her nursing home bed, I
felt my mind relax and my weight sink into the ground. I began to feel
light-headed as I became more reposed. Although feeling like I could drift
into sleep, I also experienced a sense of heightened awareness.
As Mrs. Browning lay motionless before my gaze, I suddenly heard a loud,
deep moan and scream and wondered if the nursing home personnel heard it
and would respond to the unfortunate resident. In the next moment, as this
cry of pain and torment continued, I realized it was Mrs. Browning.
I felt the mid-section of my body open and noticed a strange quality to
the light in the room. I sensed her soul in agony. As she screamed I heard
her say, in confusion, "Why am I still here.. Why am I here?" My soul
touched hers and in some way I communicated that she was still locked in
her body. I promised I would do everything in my power to gain the release
her soul cried for. With that the screaming immediately stopped. I felt
like I was back in my head again, the room resumed its normal appearance,
and Mrs. Browning, as she had throughout this experience, lay silent."
(p73)
#v-
Philosophers and psychics say kill Terri Schiavo, her husband claims it
was her wish.
Medical researchers and practitioners say Terri Schiavo is treatable.
Who knows what her wishes are?
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<bevthornton@despammed.com> Support: <http://www.foei.org/>
Happy is goodwill in this world,
and so is restraint towards all beings.
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
27 Mar 2005 06:27:19 AM |
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Bev Thornton <Reply-To@not.invalid> wrote:
On 2005-03-26, Charles wrote:
The only person in the whole affair claiming psychic ability is
George Felos, Michael Schiavo's lawyer.
From a review of his book, Litigation as Spiritual Practice:
Thuggee was a cult, was it not? Very "spiritual."
Oh, there's several books out for years about Nazis and the
occult too.
Philosophers and psychics say kill Terri Schiavo, her husband claims it
was her wish.
Medical researchers and practitioners say Terri Schiavo is treatable.
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "Bev Thornton" |
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| Title: Re: Saving Terri Schiavo |
27 Mar 2005 07:38:45 AM |
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On 2005-03-27, Contrarian wrote:
Thuggee was a cult, was it not? Very "spiritual."
A Hindu Kali cult that has some very odd practices. The official story is
that the British Raj broke the thugee practices in the mid-19th century.
However, that is not true, the ritual murders still occur regularly.
<http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/article/0,13673,501020729-322673,00.html>
There are also daily blood sacrifices in the Kali temples and two of them
are featured with some agencies as tourist destinations to interested
Westerners.
Oh, there's several books out for years about Nazis and the
occult too.
As far as I know, this is the only author on that subject worth reading:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Goodrick-Clarke>
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<bevthornton@despammed.com> Support: <http://www.banminesusa.org/>
The only real failure in life is
to not be true to the best one knows.
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