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"Art" |
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14 Dec 2005 07:34:20 PM |
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Remeron helped me |
I post this in the hope it will help someone else.
My one and only bout with depression started in February 1997. The
trigger seemed to be the death of my youngest daughter's husband. I
was 60 at the time. I experienced the typical symptoms including
anxiety attacks and insomnia.
My physician prescibed Xanax. I recall taking a gram/day later on. She
also noticed a pulsation in my abdomen which indeed turned out to be
a AAA (abdominal aeortal aneurysm). Major surgery was done in May.
She tried Zoloft on me at some point but all I experienced were the
negative side effects. By September, I was really going downhill. I
wasn't eating or sleeping. I agreed to a stay in a mental health
facility for 10 days.
The psychiatrist immediately began weaning me off Xanax which he
called a poison. He subsitituted something else which I can't recall
for several days, and then started Remeron (don't recall doses).
Mentally, I felt no improvement but I do recall getting my appetite
back during that week. The food there was awful, but I couldn't
get enough to eat, and my wife brought me fresh fruits, etc.
I think I finally tapered off Remeron after just a few months.
By the spring of 1998 I felt the dark cloud had not only lifted, but
was no longer lurking in the background. Now nearing 69, I sleep like
a log and enjoy good health.
My advice to those new to depression is to seek the help of a
psychiatrist immediately. With the right med, your personal hell may
may be short lived.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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| User: "Contrarian" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
15 Dec 2005 04:15:01 AM |
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Art <null@zilch.com> wrote:
I post this in the hope it will help someone else.
Always glad to hear other ppl's experiences.
She tried Zoloft on me at some point but all I experienced were the
negative side effects.
which were, may I ask?
my ZZZoloft time had its pluses and its minuses.
My advice to those new to depression is to seek the help of a
psychiatrist immediately. With the right med, your personal hell may
may be short lived.
good advice.
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
--
but the edge is still Out there. Or maybe it's In... HST (1967)
when i got to the edge , i built a deck % (2005)
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| User: "Art" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
15 Dec 2005 06:39:21 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:15:01 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
She tried Zoloft on me at some point but all I experienced were the
negative side effects.
which were, may I ask?
Dry mouth and impotence. If there were any plusses, I don't recall
them. It may be that the Xanax "poison" interfered. I have no idea.
All I know is that I wasted months by not seeing a psychiatrist
immediately.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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| User: "packrat" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
15 Dec 2005 02:02:38 PM |
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"Art" <null@zilch.com> wrote in message
news:9do2q1l2b70guf90r6rd37e661asibg7cl@4ax.com...
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:15:01 GMT, Contrarian <adrba65@gmail.com>
wrote:
She tried Zoloft on me at some point but all I experienced were the
negative side effects.
which were, may I ask?
Dry mouth and impotence. If there were any plusses, I don't recall
them. It may be that the Xanax "poison" interfered. I have no idea.
All I know is that I wasted months by not seeing a psychiatrist
immediately.
Art
how exactly was the xanaxa poison to you? Just curious.
thanks
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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| User: "Art" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
15 Dec 2005 04:52:49 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:02:38 GMT, "packrat" <maddienospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
She tried Zoloft on me at some point but all I experienced were the
negative side effects.
which were, may I ask?
Dry mouth and impotence. If there were any plusses, I don't recall
them. It may be that the Xanax "poison" interfered. I have no idea.
All I know is that I wasted months by not seeing a psychiatrist
immediately.
how exactly was the xanaxa poison to you? Just curious.
The psychiatrist called it "poison", so we'd have to ask him exactly
what he meant :) The Xanax served to relieve the anxiety attacks,
but I'm convinced that if I had seen a psychiatrist and started on
Remeron instead I would have saved myself from 7 months of hell
and deteriorating health.
It's a bad idea to just go to a general practioner and beg for some
pill to relieve anxiety. Generally, they don't have much of a clue at
all. Depression illness needs to be treated by a psychiatrist who
knows far more about the illness and how to prescribe a appropriate
med or meds for your particular situation.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
15 Dec 2005 08:21:58 PM |
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Art wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:02:38 GMT, "packrat" <maddienospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:
She tried Zoloft on me at some point but all I experienced were the
negative side effects.
which were, may I ask?
Dry mouth and impotence. If there were any plusses, I don't recall
them. It may be that the Xanax "poison" interfered. I have no idea.
All I know is that I wasted months by not seeing a psychiatrist
immediately.
how exactly was the xanaxa poison to you? Just curious.
The psychiatrist called it "poison", so we'd have to ask him exactly
what he meant :) The Xanax served to relieve the anxiety attacks,
but I'm convinced that if I had seen a psychiatrist and started on
Remeron instead I would have saved myself from 7 months of hell
and deteriorating health.
Or perhaps your would have spent the next 10 years bouncing from one
psych med to the next. You hit remeron on the first try, congratulations.
The only people who I know of who have lived lives of hell and
deteriorating health are those who abuse xanax. It's a mild sedative.
Attribute what evils you will to this "poison", but if you took .25mg
you wouldn't rant about it.
It's a bad idea to just go to a general practioner and beg for some
pill to relieve anxiety. Generally, they don't have much of a clue at
all.
You've interviewed them all? You have formal medical training?
A GP shouldn't make benzos their main goal, but giving out a script for
the occasional .5mg ativan qty 15 and no refills is fine. If they come
back in 7 days for a refill - then that level of anxiety is not GP level.
Anxiolytic drugs are quite safe to prescribe and a GP will have a great
deal of *clue* about them. It's how the doctor scripts it.
Depression illness needs to be treated by a psychiatrist who
knows far more about the illness and how to prescribe a appropriate
med or meds for your particular situation.
A GP needs to be *more* aware of depression in order to REFER the
patient, but actual depression drugs are something that are very
difficult to manage.
A benzo is not a depression drug.
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| User: "Art" |
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16 Dec 2005 06:39:44 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:21:58 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
how exactly was the xanaxa poison to you? Just curious.
The psychiatrist called it "poison", so we'd have to ask him exactly
what he meant :) The Xanax served to relieve the anxiety attacks,
but I'm convinced that if I had seen a psychiatrist and started on
Remeron instead I would have saved myself from 7 months of hell
and deteriorating health.
Or perhaps your would have spent the next 10 years bouncing from one
psych med to the next. You hit remeron on the first try, congratulations.
No. The psychiatrist hit Remeron on the first try. Congrats go to him,
not me.
The only people who I know of who have lived lives of hell and
deteriorating health are those who abuse xanax. It's a mild sedative.
Attribute what evils you will to this "poison", but if you took .25mg
you wouldn't rant about it.
I think you must mean 250 mg or 0.25 gram. And nowhere have I ranted
about anything.
It's a bad idea to just go to a general practioner and beg for some
pill to relieve anxiety. Generally, they don't have much of a clue at
all.
You've interviewed them all? You have formal medical training?
Look, dimbulb, if heart trouble is suspected, a general practioner
will send you to a cardiologist. Similarly, they should insist that
someone who is mentally ill must see a psychiatrist. I know from
personal experience and from listenening to the experiences of others
that they too often don't do that.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
16 Dec 2005 08:32:47 AM |
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Art wrote:
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:21:58 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
how exactly was the xanaxa poison to you? Just curious.
The psychiatrist called it "poison", so we'd have to ask him exactly
what he meant :) The Xanax served to relieve the anxiety attacks,
but I'm convinced that if I had seen a psychiatrist and started on
Remeron instead I would have saved myself from 7 months of hell
and deteriorating health.
Or perhaps your would have spent the next 10 years bouncing from one
psych med to the next. You hit remeron on the first try, congratulations.
No. The psychiatrist hit Remeron on the first try. Congrats go to him,
not me.
Sometimes you end up rolling 77 7s in a craps grame. Doesn't mean red
dice are the best.
The only people who I know of who have lived lives of hell and
deteriorating health are those who abuse xanax. It's a mild sedative.
Attribute what evils you will to this "poison", but if you took .25mg
you wouldn't rant about it.
I think you must mean 250 mg or 0.25 gram. And nowhere have I ranted
about anything.
No I meant exactly what I said, 0.25mg: http://www.xanax.com/xanax.pdf
**********
XANAX Tablets contain alprazolam
which is a triazolo analog of the 1,4
benzodiazepine class of central nervous
system-active compounds.
The chemical name of alprazolam is
8-Chloro-1-methyl-6-phenyl-4H-s-triazolo
[4,3-α] [1,4] benzodiazepine.
Alprazolam is a white crystalline
powder, which is soluble in methanol or ethanol but
which has no appreciable solubility in water at physiological
pH.
Each XANAX Tablet, for oral administration, contains
0.25, 0.5, 1 or 2 mg of alprazolam.
XANAX Tablets, 2 mg, are multi-scored and may be
divided as shown below:
Inactive ingredients: Cellulose, corn starch, docusate
sodium, lactose, magnesium stearate, silicon dioxide and
sodium benzoate. In addit ion, the 0.5 mg tablet contains
FD&C Yellow No. 6 and the 1 mg tablet contains FD&C
Blue No. 2.
**********
It's a bad idea to just go to a general practioner and beg for some
pill to relieve anxiety. Generally, they don't have much of a clue at
all.
You've interviewed them all? You have formal medical training?
Look, dimbulb, if heart trouble is suspected, a general practioner
will send you to a cardiologist. Similarly, they should insist that
someone who is mentally ill must see a psychiatrist. I know from
personal experience and from listenening to the experiences of others
that they too often don't do that.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
Yes they will send that person to a specialist right away because they
can't prescribe something in the interim for that patient between the
period of *now* and the meeting with the specialist.
With something like mental illness they can prescribe something in the
interim. Now I have a particular hatred of xanax myself but that's just
due to it being a little "different" than other benzos.
For a GP to prescribe something like that for a patient in mental
distress is appropriate to me. Mental illness and cardiology is a poor
comparison.
Now, let's not let this get down to insults. Play adult.
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| User: "Art" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
16 Dec 2005 09:10:54 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:32:47 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
No I meant exactly what I said, 0.25mg: http://www.xanax.com/xanax.pdf
Yes, I had forgotten the typical doses are small mg units. I was
taking 1 mg and certainly not the 1 gram I stated in my original
post.
Now, let's not let this get down to insults. Play adult.
Then quit being argumentative and insulting. You started it, not me.
Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: Remeron helped me |
16 Dec 2005 10:38:59 AM |
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Art wrote:
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:32:47 -0700, Franz Bestuchev
<franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote:
No I meant exactly what I said, 0.25mg: http://www.xanax.com/xanax.pdf
Yes, I had forgotten the typical doses are small mg units. I was
taking 1 mg and certainly not the 1 gram I stated in my original
post.
Now, let's not let this get down to insults. Play adult.
Then quit being argumentative and insulting. You started it, not me.
Let's talk about Hitler and go Godwin on this ***** of a thread.
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