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Sociology > Depression |
| User: |
"John" |
| Date: |
11 Nov 2005 12:48:14 AM |
| Object: |
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN
Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
A study from Harvard shows that of soft drinks may be responsible for
the doubling of obesity in children over the last 15 years.
From 1991 and 1995, adolescent boys increased their intake of soft
drinks from an average of 345 mL to 570 mL. Most soft drinks are
sweetened with sugar and not artificial sweeteners. Dr. David Ludwig of
the Boston Children Hospital showed that school children drinking eight
ounces or more of soft drinks daily consume 835 calories more than
those avoiding soft drinks. That means that children who drink soft
drinks loaded with sugar eat much more food than those who avoid soft
drinks. Either those taking sugared drinks lack the same restraint on
foods, or sugared drinks cause a rise in insulin that makes adolescents
more hungry, causing them to eat more. Children who drink soft drinks
regularly are fatter and presumably more likely to develop diabetes
later in life.
Lancet 2001;357:505-08. "Relation between consumption of
sugar-sweetened drinks and childhood obesity: a prospective,
observational analysis" Dr. David Ludwig from the Children's Hospital
Boston and colleagues at the Harvard School of Public Health.
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 12:57:18 AM |
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John wrote...
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN
Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
A study from Harvard shows that of soft drinks may be
responsible for the doubling of obesity in children over
the last 15 years.
From 1991 and 1995, adolescent boys increased their intake
of soft
drinks from an average of 345 mL to 570 mL. Most soft
drinks are sweetened with sugar and not artificial
sweeteners. Dr. David Ludwig of
the Boston Children Hospital showed that school children
drinking eight
ounces or more of soft drinks daily consume 835 calories
more than those avoiding soft drinks. That means that
children who drink soft drinks loaded with sugar eat much
more food than those who avoid soft drinks. Either those
taking sugared drinks lack the same restraint on foods, or
sugared drinks cause a rise in insulin that makes
adolescents
more hungry, causing them to eat more. Children who drink
soft drinks regularly are fatter and presumably more likely
to develop diabetes later in life.
Lancet 2001;357:505-08. "Relation between consumption of
sugar-sweetened drinks and childhood obesity: a
prospective, observational analysis" Dr. David Ludwig from
the Children's Hospital Boston and colleagues at the
Harvard School of Public Health.
my younger son drinks, at most, one soda per week.
unfortunately, that's not what's causing his weight problem.
my older son's built like his dad. 5'9" and 110 lbs at age 12.
-lisa
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 09:55:39 AM |
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On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN
Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 02:41:56 PM |
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In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN
Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 03:12:34 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether slamming
my hand in a door hurts or not.
....and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on the
velocity of the door.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 03:50:35 PM |
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In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether slamming
my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on the
velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
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| User: "Ivan Marsh" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 04:47:47 PM |
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On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
--
The USA Patriot Act is the most unpatriotic act in American history.
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| User: "electro" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 09:00:47 PM |
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"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Canadian First Nations, or Native Americans believed that tobacco smoke
cleansed them of evil spirits. (more likely just the feeling of a nic-fit
being satisfied). I don't know if many/any do any more.
Cocaine was thought to be a miracle cure-all in it's early glory days.
Baby's teething? Rub some coke on her gums.. ..see how fast those tears
turn into a giggle.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
12 Nov 2005 01:23:59 AM |
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In message <zVcdf.482009$oW2.241554@pd7tw1no>, electro
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> writes
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Canadian First Nations, or Native Americans believed that tobacco smoke
cleansed them of evil spirits. (more likely just the feeling of a nic-fit
being satisfied). I don't know if many/any do any more.
Cocaine was thought to be a miracle cure-all in it's early glory days.
Baby's teething? Rub some coke on her gums.. ..see how fast those tears
turn into a giggle.
Was that before or after laudanum (opium in alcohol)? Great for keeping
the bairns quiet, or not going to the dentist. Britain grew all its own
opium, and you could pop into the chemist for a penny roll of it. Mind
you, a penny was a penny back then, and Norfolk farmers were the biggest
consumers, being able to afford it, and having all those sheep to worry.
about.
Maybe Michael would care to comment.
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
11 Nov 2005 09:12:21 PM |
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electro wrote:
"Ivan Marsh" <annoyed@you.now> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now...
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Canadian First Nations, or Native Americans believed that tobacco smoke
cleansed them of evil spirits. (more likely just the feeling of a nic-fit
being satisfied). I don't know if many/any do any more.
Cocaine was thought to be a miracle cure-all in it's early glory days.
Baby's teething? Rub some coke on her gums.. ..see how fast those tears
turn into a giggle.
I actually bought a good amount of coke once for dental pain because I
was waiting for my health insurance to kick in.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
12 Nov 2005 01:18:38 AM |
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In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were used
in adverts!)
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
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| User: "electro" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
12 Nov 2005 05:46:26 PM |
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"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7nW15KDOdZdDFwrz@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking
they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were used
in adverts!)
I've heard, seriously, that some of the better marathon runners out there
are ex-smokers. Lung capacity (and other factors) increases to compensate
for the decreased efficacy of the lungs oxygen absorption. Take away the
cigarettes and work out, and enjoy the benefits of better lungs. I'm sure
this only applies to short-time smokers who quit.
.
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| User: "Alan Harding" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
13 Nov 2005 12:24:57 AM |
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In message <m9vdf.495625$tl2.280908@pd7tw3no>, electro
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7nW15KDOdZdDFwrz@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking
they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were used
in adverts!)
I've heard, seriously, that some of the better marathon runners out there
are ex-smokers. Lung capacity (and other factors) increases to compensate
for the decreased efficacy of the lungs oxygen absorption. Take away the
cigarettes and work out, and enjoy the benefits of better lungs. I'm sure
this only applies to short-time smokers who quit.
It sounds just plausible. Still, given the price of cigarette here,
training at altitude would be a safer and cheaper option. Package
holiday to Tenerife for peanuts, then run around up by Mount Teidi - it
had me gasping for breath, and I was just trying to climb a staircase!
--
The opinions given above may be mine. They might also
just be what I feel like saying right now, okay?
.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
13 Nov 2005 03:59:49 PM |
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Alan Harding wrote:
In message <m9vdf.495625$tl2.280908@pd7tw3no>, electro
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7nW15KDOdZdDFwrz@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain
based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking
they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into
your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were used
in adverts!)
I've heard, seriously, that some of the better marathon runners out there
are ex-smokers. Lung capacity (and other factors) increases to
compensate
for the decreased efficacy of the lungs oxygen absorption. Take away the
cigarettes and work out, and enjoy the benefits of better lungs. I'm
sure
this only applies to short-time smokers who quit.
It sounds just plausible. Still, given the price of cigarette here,
training at altitude would be a safer and cheaper option. Package
holiday to Tenerife for peanuts, then run around up by Mount Teidi - it
had me gasping for breath, and I was just trying to climb a staircase!
People come up to my area for altitude training, you get more red blood
cells to adjust to a higher altitude. The air actually feels thicker to
me at sea level and I can run around doing all sorts of physical work
with a lot more endurance than otherwise. I really love it.
Driving my cars at sea level is a lot more fun too. You get used to the
high altitude performance and then it's like a kick in the ***** to a mule
when you're rocketing around by the ocean in the same car.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
13 Nov 2005 04:08:15 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3tpra8Fu9mauU1@individual.net...
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <m9vdf.495625$tl2.280908@pd7tw3no>, electro
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7nW15KDOdZdDFwrz@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain
based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking
they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you
are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is
no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into
your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were used
in adverts!)
I've heard, seriously, that some of the better marathon runners out
there
are ex-smokers. Lung capacity (and other factors) increases to
compensate
for the decreased efficacy of the lungs oxygen absorption. Take away
the
cigarettes and work out, and enjoy the benefits of better lungs. I'm
sure
this only applies to short-time smokers who quit.
It sounds just plausible. Still, given the price of cigarette here,
training at altitude would be a safer and cheaper option. Package
holiday to Tenerife for peanuts, then run around up by Mount Teidi - it
had me gasping for breath, and I was just trying to climb a staircase!
People come up to my area for altitude training, you get more red blood
cells to adjust to a higher altitude. The air actually feels thicker to
me at sea level and I can run around doing all sorts of physical work
with a lot more endurance than otherwise. I really love it.
Driving my cars at sea level is a lot more fun too. You get used to the
high altitude performance and then it's like a kick in the ***** to a mule
when you're rocketing around by the ocean in the same car.
I first noticed the thinner air out here ,
when I started riding my bike ,
the slightest hill and I'd get pooped ,
it took a while to figure out why ,
then I realized I was use to riding at ,
about 600 feet above sea and now I'm 3,000 above ,
it also explained to me why all the guys in BC ,
win all the mountain bike competition races
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
13 Nov 2005 04:59:05 PM |
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% wrote:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3tpra8Fu9mauU1@individual.net...
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <m9vdf.495625$tl2.280908@pd7tw3no>, electro
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7nW15KDOdZdDFwrz@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain
based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even thinking
they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you
are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is
no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into
your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were used
in adverts!)
I've heard, seriously, that some of the better marathon runners out
there
are ex-smokers. Lung capacity (and other factors) increases to
compensate
for the decreased efficacy of the lungs oxygen absorption. Take away
the
cigarettes and work out, and enjoy the benefits of better lungs. I'm
sure
this only applies to short-time smokers who quit.
It sounds just plausible. Still, given the price of cigarette here,
training at altitude would be a safer and cheaper option. Package
holiday to Tenerife for peanuts, then run around up by Mount Teidi - it
had me gasping for breath, and I was just trying to climb a staircase!
People come up to my area for altitude training, you get more red blood
cells to adjust to a higher altitude. The air actually feels thicker to
me at sea level and I can run around doing all sorts of physical work
with a lot more endurance than otherwise. I really love it.
Driving my cars at sea level is a lot more fun too. You get used to the
high altitude performance and then it's like a kick in the ***** to a mule
when you're rocketing around by the ocean in the same car.
I first noticed the thinner air out here ,
when I started riding my bike ,
the slightest hill and I'd get pooped ,
it took a while to figure out why ,
then I realized I was use to riding at ,
about 600 feet above sea and now I'm 3,000 above ,
it also explained to me why all the guys in BC ,
win all the mountain bike competition races
I think the BC guys might be using a combination approach to victory.
Living at altitude and then quitting their "smoking" for race day.
Awhile back I was out on Catalina island with some accomplices. I was
charging up and down the hills, enjoying the gorgeous views and even
though the locals I was with were certainly more into fitness than I was
the altitude was a pretty effective advantage.
I can only imagine what would happen if some of those Peruvians who live
up at insane altitudes could do. Live up around 8000' and then run laps
around EVERYBODY at sea level.
.
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| User: "%" |
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| Title: Re: SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN |
13 Nov 2005 05:03:37 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3tpupbFu1icaU1@individual.net...
% wrote:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3tpra8Fu9mauU1@individual.net...
Alan Harding wrote:
In message <m9vdf.495625$tl2.280908@pd7tw3no>, electro
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> writes
"Alan Harding" <Alan@harding.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7nW15KDOdZdDFwrz@harding.demon.co.uk...
In message <pan.2005.11.11.22.47.45.465890@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:50:35 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.21.12.33.319401@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:41:56 +0000, Alan Harding wrote:
In message <pan.2005.11.11.15.55.38.484432@you.now>, Ivan Marsh
<annoyed@you.now> writes
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0800, John wrote:
SOFT DRINKS CAUSE OBESITY IN CHILDREN Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
This just in from the office of the blatantly obvious.
Knowing things and having evidence are separate matters.
Yep... but I don't need to spend grant money to determine whether
slamming my hand in a door hurts or not.
...and I really don't need statistics on the severity of pain
based on
the velocity of the door.
Want to bet that the soft drinks' lobby isn't paying politicians to
disbelieve the obvious?
Is there a soft drinks lobby? The world is far too strange.
That's right up there with tobacco companies trying (or even
thinking
they
should even have to try) to convince people that smoking is safe.
I'm sorry but... and keep in mind I'm a smoker, I don't care if you
are
the first person in history that ever smoked or the last... there is
no
way in hell you could have EVER thought that sucking hot smoke into
your
lungs was a safe thing to do.
Strengthens the lungs, you know. Doctors recommend it. (Both were
used
in adverts!)
I've heard, seriously, that some of the better marathon runners out
there
are ex-smokers. Lung capacity (and other factors) increases to
compensate
for the decreased efficacy of the lungs oxygen absorption. Take away
the
cigarettes and work out, and enjoy the benefits of better lungs. I'm
sure
this only applies to short-time smokers who quit.
It sounds just plausible. Still, given the price of cigarette here,
training at altitude would be a safer and cheaper option. Package
holiday to Tenerife for peanuts, then run around up by Mount Teidi - it
had me gasping for breath, and I was just trying to climb a staircase!
People come up to my area for altitude training, you get more red blood
cells to adjust to a higher altitude. The air actually feels thicker to
me at sea level and I can run around doing all sorts of physical work
with a lot more endurance than otherwise. I really love it.
Driving my cars at sea level is a lot more fun too. You get used to the
high altitude performance and then it's like a kick in the ***** to a mule
when you're rocketing around by the ocean in the same car.
I first noticed the thinner air out here ,
when I started riding my bike ,
the slightest hill and I'd get pooped ,
it took a while to figure out why ,
then I realized I was use to riding at ,
about 600 feet above sea and now I'm 3,000 above ,
it also explained to me why all the guys in BC ,
win all the mountain bike competition races
I think the BC guys might be using a combination approach to victory.
Living at altitude and then quitting their "smoking" for race day.
Awhile back I was out on Catalina island with some accomplices. I was
charging up and down the hills, enjoying the gorgeous views and even
though the locals I was with were certainly more into fitness than I was
the altitude was a pretty effective advantage.
I can only imagine what would happen if some of those Peruvians who live
up at insane altitudes could do. Live up around 8000' and then run laps
around EVERYBODY at sea level.
yea , i think about Bolivian blue flake alot too
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