| Topic: |
Sociology > Depression |
| User: |
"lisa in mass." |
| Date: |
14 Oct 2004 10:02:34 PM |
| Object: |
suicidal ideation |
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
14 Oct 2004 10:04:39 PM |
|
|
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
just don't look to the right or left and you'll be fine
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
14 Oct 2004 10:08:35 PM |
|
|
% wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
just don't look to the right or left and you'll be fine
working on it.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
14 Oct 2004 10:13:59 PM |
|
|
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EB5D91B96mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
% wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
just don't look to the right or left and you'll be fine
working on it.
-lisa
draw a target on the wall and sit in front of it and stare
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
14 Oct 2004 10:18:03 PM |
|
|
% wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EB5D91B96mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
% wrote...
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
just don't look to the right or left and you'll be fine
working on it.
-lisa
draw a target on the wall and sit in front of it and stare
so now you're advocationg dissociation...
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "=^.^=" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 02:28:18 AM |
|
|
On 15 Oct 2004 03:18:03 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
draw a target on the wall and sit in front of it and stare
so now you're advocationg dissociation...
-lisa
mandalaism iz better
Salaam...
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 07:34:22 AM |
|
|
=^.^= wrote...
On 15 Oct 2004 03:18:03 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
draw a target on the wall and sit in front of it and
stare
so now you're advocationg dissociation...
-lisa
mandalaism iz better
Salaam...
dissociation's just quick and easy for me. practiced it the
whole time i was a kid.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "=^.^=" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 12:16:32 PM |
|
|
On 15 Oct 2004 12:34:22 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
so now you're advocationg dissociation...
=20
-lisa
=20
mandalaism iz better
=20
Salaam...
dissociation's just quick and easy for me. practiced it the=20
whole time i was a kid.
I don't know how...
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "=^.^=" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 02:23:24 AM |
|
|
On 15 Oct 2004 03:08:35 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
just don't look to the right or left and you'll be fine
working on it.
-lisa
use virtual blinders with you at the controlzz
there are plenty who like to toss those on-ya
....and steer you the way they want you to go
you end up going off the road into the canyon
....and they don't care, as you rip to shreds
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "David" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:44:12 AM |
|
|
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:48:21 AM |
|
|
i have been sharing it here for 8 years. right now, this
ideation just is. burned in by habit, most likely.
-lisa
David wrote...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "David" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 01:46:10 AM |
|
|
Have you tried thinking about something else for a change?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585124CEE759mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i have been sharing it here for 8 years. right now, this
ideation just is. burned in by habit, most likely.
-lisa
David wrote...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 01:51:07 AM |
|
|
after 8 years , where would she find the time to think anything else
"David" <noemail@here.com> wrote in message
news:Cvocd.34218$%x.21644@okepread04...
Have you tried thinking about something else for a change?
\
.
|
|
|
| User: "David" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 03:31:50 AM |
|
|
Maybe she should change her name
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:10n45ksobm3vg0d@corp.supernews.com...
after 8 years , where would she find the time to think anything else
"David" <noemail@here.com> wrote in message
news:Cvocd.34218$%x.21644@okepread04...
Have you tried thinking about something else for a change?
\
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 03:55:08 AM |
|
|
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of times, but
it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep, so i went back. i've
also considered changing it in real life, but i think that would
get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
"%" <surfs@uniserve> wrote in message
news:10n45ksobm3vg0d@corp.supernews.com...
after 8 years , where would she find the time to think
anything else
"David" <noemail@here.com> wrote in message
news:Cvocd.34218$%x.21644@okepread04...
Have you tried thinking about something else for a
change? \
.
|
|
|
| User: "David" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 11:39:55 AM |
|
|
How about just Lisa?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958531F7BEB15mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of times, but
it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep, so i went back. i've
also considered changing it in real life, but i think that would
get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:49:54 PM |
|
|
there is currently another Lisa here. i originally chose the
name because i wanted to be easily differentiated from a lisa
h. who was posting at the time.
-lisa
David wrote...
How about just Lisa?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958531F7BEB15mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of
times, but it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep, so i
went back. i've also considered changing it in real life,
but i think that would get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
.
|
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:54:34 PM |
|
|
you are the original lisa and the best lisa ,
let all the other lisa's go change their names
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95858CA335C43mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
there is currently another Lisa here. i originally chose the
name because i wanted to be easily differentiated from a lisa
h. who was posting at the time.
-lisa
David wrote...
How about just Lisa?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958531F7BEB15mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of
times, but it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep, so i
went back. i've also considered changing it in real life,
but i think that would get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 01:33:59 PM |
|
|
thanks. i've been lisa in mass. for so long now, though, i'm
kinda used to it.
-lisa
% wrote...
you are the original lisa and the best lisa ,
let all the other lisa's go change their names
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95858CA335C43mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
there is currently another Lisa here. i originally chose
the name because i wanted to be easily differentiated from
a lisa h. who was posting at the time.
-lisa
David wrote...
How about just Lisa?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958531F7BEB15mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of
times, but it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep,
so i went back. i've also considered changing it in
real life, but i think that would get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
.
|
|
|
| User: "David" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 10:55:02 PM |
|
|
back to topic, have you ever thought very much about what's going on in your
life that might be causing some of these feelings? I'm not quite sure what
you mean by "ideation", but once, in my stay in the hospital I tried to
commit suicide. They tell me it was more of a cry for help, because I was in
a protected environment, but I still felt it, and was traumatized by it. I
did get the help I needed though, but at great cost. My stay in the hospital
was extended for another three months, so I could break some very harmful
and destructive patterns I had fallen into. They were going to release me
too soon, because my insurance was up for the month, and I wasn't ready to
go home yet. This has sort of been what I've been working on during the past
month or so, memories, feelings, and beliefs that was causing the
self-destruction. I feel fortunate to be able to share this with you, I've
come pretty far :).
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585941CB7667mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
thanks. i've been lisa in mass. for so long now, though, i'm
kinda used to it.
-lisa
% wrote...
you are the original lisa and the best lisa ,
let all the other lisa's go change their names
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95858CA335C43mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
there is currently another Lisa here. i originally chose
the name because i wanted to be easily differentiated from
a lisa h. who was posting at the time.
-lisa
David wrote...
How about just Lisa?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958531F7BEB15mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of
times, but it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep,
so i went back. i've also considered changing it in
real life, but i think that would get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
18 Oct 2004 10:38:41 PM |
|
|
my ideation started about 8 years ago. i developed a
neuromuscular disease, and one treatment they tried was long-
term steroids. unfortunately, i reacted to the steroid with
very severe depression with psychotic features. i had several
suicide atempsts in the early times, along with lots of self-
injury. in 8 years, we haven't found anything that helps long-
term my depression, suicidality, and self-harming urges. the
suicidal ideation i'm dealing with right now is very intense,
but only lasts about 5 seconds at a time. because they're so
short, and the fact that i don't really want to die, they're
only really dangerous when i'm driving. i also fight urges to
self-injure. these are long-lasting and more likely to be
acted upon. i've learned to avoid acting on my urges, so i'm
safer than i was in the beginning but still struggle on a
daily basis, taking it hour by hour. right now, i'm in a
partial hospitalization prgram, working on the root causes of
my self-harmful problems.
-lisa
David wrote...
back to topic, have you ever thought very much about what's
going on in your life that might be causing some of these
feelings? I'm not quite sure what you mean by "ideation",
but once, in my stay in the hospital I tried to commit
suicide. They tell me it was more of a cry for help,
because I was in a protected environment, but I still felt
it, and was traumatized by it. I did get the help I needed
though, but at great cost. My stay in the hospital was
extended for another three months, so I could break some
very harmful and destructive patterns I had fallen into.
They were going to release me too soon, because my
insurance was up for the month, and I wasn't ready to go
home yet. This has sort of been what I've been working on
during the past month or so, memories, feelings, and
beliefs that was causing the self-destruction. I feel
fortunate to be able to share this with you, I've come
pretty far :).
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585941CB7667mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
thanks. i've been lisa in mass. for so long now, though,
i'm kinda used to it.
-lisa
% wrote...
you are the original lisa and the best lisa ,
let all the other lisa's go change their names
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95858CA335C43mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
there is currently another Lisa here. i originally chose
the name because i wanted to be easily differentiated
from a lisa h. who was posting at the time.
-lisa
David wrote...
How about just Lisa?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958531F7BEB15mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what do you suggest? i've changed it here a couple of
times, but it just wasn't comfortable enough to keep,
so i went back. i've also considered changing it in
real life, but i think that would get confusing.
-lisa
David wrote...
Maybe she should change her name
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:49:44 AM |
|
|
hi Lisa , i think he's new and just trying to fit in
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585124CEE759mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i have been sharing it here for 8 years. right now, this
ideation just is. burned in by habit, most likely.
-lisa
David wrote...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:52:33 AM |
|
|
sounds like it.
-lisa
% wrote...
hi Lisa , i think he's new and just trying to fit in
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585124CEE759mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i have been sharing it here for 8 years. right now, this
ideation just is. burned in by habit, most likely.
-lisa
David wrote...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 01:04:08 AM |
|
|
i even leaved him alone till he said try warm milk , then i snapped
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958513038820Emccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
sounds like it.
-lisa
% wrote...
hi Lisa , i think he's new and just trying to fit in
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585124CEE759mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i have been sharing it here for 8 years. right now, this
ideation just is. burned in by habit, most likely.
-lisa
David wrote...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 01:11:33 AM |
|
|
:-) i know. i've been trying to be good. just wasn't the place
to tell the story.
-lisa
% wrote...
i even leaved him alone till he said try warm milk , then i
snapped
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns958513038820Emccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
sounds like it.
-lisa
% wrote...
hi Lisa , i think he's new and just trying to fit in
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9585124CEE759mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
i have been sharing it here for 8 years. right now,
this ideation just is. burned in by habit, most likely.
-lisa
David wrote...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "% surfs@uniserve" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
17 Oct 2004 12:44:03 AM |
|
|
it was three days ago ,
she doesn't feel like that now ,
get in the moment if you can ,
if not you'll confuse alot of us
"David" <noemail@here.com> wrote in message
news:tBncd.34113$%x.3891@okepread04...
Can you share with us why your feeling this way?
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9582EA58BAF23mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
persistent little bugger.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "=^.^=" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 02:20:29 AM |
|
|
On 15 Oct 2004 03:02:34 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
persistent little bugger.
not to me. I owned the worlds' sharpest knife...
and I put it to my neck. wonder what happened to it?
just hold on one more day, in the Wilson-Phillips Tradition
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 07:48:10 AM |
|
|
=^.^= wrote...
On 15 Oct 2004 03:02:34 GMT, "lisa in mass."
<mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
persistent little bugger.
not to me. I owned the worlds' sharpest knife...
and I put it to my neck. wonder what happened to it?
just hold on one more day, in the Wilson-Phillips Tradition
don't really need holding on. they're there, then they're gone.
over and over. i just want the little f'ers out of my head. the
one time they're really dangerous is in the car. too quick and
easy to act on sudden impulse.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
| User: "=^.^=" |
|
| Title: Re: suicidal ideation |
15 Oct 2004 12:28:33 PM |
|
|
On 15 Oct 2004 12:48:10 GMT, "lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote:
just hold on one more day, in the Wilson-Phillips Tradition
don't really need holding on. they're there, then they're gone.=20
over and over. i just want the little f'ers out of my head. the=20
one time they're really dangerous is in the car. too quick and=20
easy to act on sudden impulse.
I know. I refuse. seen the mess when people do-it
it happens a lot in Nevada...suicide by Mack truck...
or leave the road at 100+ and tear into little scraps
mostly they just drive, way-out, with a hose for the tailpipe
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Contrarian" |
|
| Title: PING lisa or wombn |
14 Oct 2004 11:16:44 PM |
|
|
X-No-Archive: yes
want to run a follow-up draft by either of you
.
|
|
|
| User: "lisa in mass." |
|
| Title: Re: PING lisa or wombn |
15 Oct 2004 12:06:49 AM |
|
|
Contrarian wrote...
X-No-Archive: yes
want to run a follow-up draft by either of you
i have no idea what you're saying, either.
-lisa
.
|
|
|
|
|

|
Related Articles |
|
|