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Topic: Sociology > Depression
User: "punk"
Date: 27 Dec 2007 07:25:33 AM
Object: suicidal tendencies
i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.
it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel the
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.
was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?
his pain is gone, but so is he.
i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.
but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.
the plan...
the option...
the way out of feeling any more pain.
.

User: "RGB"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 02:20:51 PM
In article
<0dca1b11-6e31-4018-86e5-e1b8f7ad4b14@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
punk <punkbebe@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him.

Probably not. He was probably in agony and terrified before and after
the crash, assuming this really happened.
Glorifying suicide on a depression group is fucked up and incredibly
selfish *****.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 10:07:11 AM
On Dec 27, 12:20=A0pm, RGB <-...@-.-> wrote:

In article
<0dca1b11-6e31-4018-86e5-e1b8f7ad4...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

=A0punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him.


Probably not. He was probably in agony and terrified before and after
the crash, assuming this really happened.

Glorifying suicide on a depression group is fucked up and incredibly
selfish *****.

When I've seriously thought about suicide, there was not one 'good'
feeling associated with that at all. It was those feelings of
despair, of emotional/mental pain and agony, feelings of hopelessness
that there was nothing else I could do to get out of that pain,
feelings of worthlessness that in the state I was in everyone would be
so much better off without me, feelings of a black and bottomless pit
that there was no other escape from. I think that most people
contemplating suicide aren't in a happy state, and though they wish
for the pain to stop, I don't think of suicide as feeling good, but as
a final option to escape their existence.
~Rose
.

User: "Michelle la Belle"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 03:00:45 PM
On Dec 27, 3:20=A0pm, RGB <-...@-.-> wrote:

In article
<0dca1b11-6e31-4018-86e5-e1b8f7ad4...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

=A0punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him.


Probably not. He was probably in agony and terrified before and after
the crash, assuming this really happened.

Glorifying suicide on a depression group is fucked up and incredibly
selfish *****.

Yes but that's just the way she's feeling now, and she needs
acceptance and understanding.
.
User: "RGB"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 03:12:50 PM
In article
<b84e091c-455b-4e81-8e0f-8b4112a2a567@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
Michelle la Belle <aminotempty@hotmail.com> wrote:

Glorifying suicide on a depression group is fucked up and
incredibly selfish *****.


Yes but that's just the way she's feeling now, and she needs
acceptance and understanding.

Fine, division of labor: you do that part -- don't forget the "iev taikn
som realy goodd druzgs" posts with all the dramatic, scary typos -- I'll
just point out that posting about how wonderful suicide must be puts
both the poster and every suicidal person reading at greater risk.
Mark
.
User: "Michelle la Belle"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 03:55:53 PM
On Dec 27, 4:12=A0pm, RGB <-...@-.-> wrote:

In article
<b84e091c-455b-4e81-8e0f-8b4112a2a...@l6g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
=A0Michelle la Belle <aminotem...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Glorifying suicide on a depression group is fucked up and
incredibly selfish *****.


Yes but that's just the way she's feeling now, and she needs
acceptance and understanding.


Fine, division of labor: you do that part -- don't forget the "iev taikn
som realy goodd druzgs" posts with all the dramatic, scary typos -- I'll
just point out that posting about how wonderful suicide must be puts
both the poster and every suicidal person reading at greater risk.

Mark

And that's why I said what I said:
How can you be so certain that the end of life means the end of pain?
I'm not a fan of suicide. I'd rather help you to live.
I don't mean to sound judgemental. i know how it feels to want to
die.
But, go on, we must,. and I'd like to help you if I can.
.
User: "RGB"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 04:21:23 PM
In article
<1002b4b2-526d-4d6c-a3fb-9785667a6ffd@t1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>,
Michelle la Belle <aminotempty@hotmail.com> wrote:

I'll just point out that posting about how wonderful suicide must
be puts both the poster and every suicidal person reading at
greater risk.


And that's why I said what I said:
How can you be so certain that the end of life means the end of pain?

Right, "to sleep, perchance to dream"... unfortunately, this suggestion
is of zero value to those who don't take the idea of life after death
seriously. For those people, focusing on that issue might even
reinforce the idea of suicide as the perfect analgesic, especially for
someone waxing romantic about it already.
Mark
.



User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 03:06:18 PM
Michelle la Belle wrote:

On Dec 27, 3:20 pm, RGB <-...@-.-> wrote:

In article
<0dca1b11-6e31-4018-86e5-e1b8f7ad4...@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him.


Probably not. He was probably in agony and terrified before and after
the crash, assuming this really happened.

Glorifying suicide on a depression group is fucked up and incredibly
selfish *****.


Yes but that's just the way she's feeling now, and she needs
acceptance and understanding.

don't listen to him
.



User: ""

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 09:58:00 AM
My father choose to take this route and ended up suffering because he
did a bad job. If you are looking for some positive attention I'll
bite but if this is about people feeling sorry for you it won't help
you get past these feelings. Everyone thinks about it sometimes. We
also want to know how people felt when they went because our instinct
is to survive and to live. I spent two weeks in the hospital because
I felt like I was a huge burden to my husband and an awful mother to
my kids. I have spent this last year in and out of hospitals, really
sick and unable to do many things for a long time. I have been living
in severe pain with everyone around me thinking that I am on pain
medication because I don't want to deal with life and that it is in
my head for attention. It hurts me more then all of my diagnosis
themselves to have that kind of doubt about what I am going through.
I spent so much time stuck on the couch unable to move that I started
to think that everyone would be doing better if I were gone. I
thought about how I would do it, I thought about how it would hurt
everyone I love. I thought about my mother who was murdered in front
of me when I was four years old and how I had to live my life without
her. Do I want my children to have to go through similar
circumstances with me? When you said that you thought about how
everyone was affected it made me think that you are looking for a
reason not to take your life. It sounded just like an idea but it
makes everyone worry. Some attack and state that you are out for
attention and others give you sympathy and empathy. This was why I
asked what you wanted out of your post. I don't know you so I have no
idea what to think about it.
I just want to say that I am here to listen if you need. Just be
prepared for the double reactions that come from a post like this...
Jennie
.
User: "punk"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 10:35:23 AM
On Dec 29, 10:58=A0am, "jennieandch...@gmail.com"
<jennieandch...@gmail.com> wrote:

My father choose to take this route and ended up suffering because he

jennie, i'm so sorry to hear about your dad. if u ever feel like you
need to talk about it, feel free to email me.

did a bad job. =A0If you are looking for some positive attention I'll
bite but if this is about people feeling sorry for you it won't help
you get past these feelings. =A0Everyone thinks about it sometimes. =A0We

i was needing someone to throw me a lifeline. i haven't come close to
even remotely considering it for years, now. i think part of it is
because i went off the anti depressant medications i'd been on. i
guess they'd been working so well i thought i was better.

also want to know how people felt when they went because our instinct
is to survive and to live. =A0I spent two weeks in the hospital because
I felt like I was a huge burden to my husband and an awful mother to
my kids. =A0I have spent this last year in and out of hospitals, really

sorry to hear you've been struggling especially hard this year. it
sounds like those thoughts that haunt our unwell minds have been
particularly cruel to you this year.

sick and unable to do many things for a long time. =A0I have been living
in severe pain with everyone around me thinking that I am on pain
medication =A0because I don't want to deal with life and that it is in
my head for attention. =A0It hurts me =A0more then all of my diagnosis
themselves to have that kind of doubt about what I am going through.

i'm so sorry you are having to go thru this. it can be so frustrating
when people, especially loved ones, cannot understand the emotional
torment some of us go thru.

I spent so much time stuck on the couch unable to move that I started

for me it was for six months after my dad died.

to think that everyone would be doing better if I were gone. =A0I
thought about how I would do it, I thought about how it would hurt
everyone I love. =A0I thought about my mother who was murdered in front
of me when I was four years old and how I had to live my life without

that is a horrible thing to witness. i'm sorry you've been without
your mom for so long. maybe i'll give mine a call today instead of
waiting for new year's. i need to appreciate mine more, even if she
hurts me sometimes cuz she doesn't understand.

her. =A0Do I want my children to have to go through similar
circumstances with me? =A0When you said that you thought about how
everyone was affected it made me think that you are looking for a
reason not to take your life. =A0It sounded just like an idea but it

thankfully, i'm not feeling so lost and overwhelmed today. i'm not
going to act on any suicidal thoughts and i'm sorry if i've made
anyone genuinely worry about my safety.

makes everyone worry. =A0Some attack and state that you are out for
attention and others give you sympathy and empathy. =A0This was why I
asked what you wanted out of your post. =A0I don't know you so I have no
idea what to think about it.

i guess i just wanted to know that someone understands and cares on
some level at all. i needed to feel there was some reason to be here.

I just want to say that I am here to listen if you need. =A0Just be
prepared for the double reactions that come from a post like this...

thanks for the offer and the warning. i've learned over the years
about the mixed comments that come when one posts publicly. luckily
my skin has gotten a lil thicker regarding that.

Jennie

thank you so much for responding to this post, jennie. it's very
encouraging and i'm glad to have made your acquaintance.
best wishes for a happier and healthier new year.
.


User: ""

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 10:01:06 AM
On Dec 27, 5:25=A0am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal and feel the
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the tree? =A0did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? =A0does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.

Oh geez punk....don't listen to those thoughts! Those are the
thoughts of pain and desperation speaking those ugly lies about the
'freeing' option of suicide. I'm sorry you're in pain. Perhaps take
a hiatus from ASD for a spell? I did and it was the best thing I
could have done for myself, and I wish I had done so sooner. Take
care of yourself, and maybe you should contact your doctor, and if you
don't have one maybe it's time to get one.
~Rose
.
User: "punk"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 10:09:37 AM
On Dec 29, 11:01=A0am,
wrote:

On Dec 27, 5:25=A0am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:



i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal and feel the=
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the tree? =A0did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? =A0does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


Oh geez punk....don't listen to those thoughts! =A0Those are the
thoughts of pain and desperation speaking those ugly lies about the

you're right. they were...

'freeing' option of suicide. =A0I'm sorry you're in pain. =A0Perhaps take

i don't think it's a freeing option. i just still have never been
able to get the pain of my cuz' accident to go away. i guess it was
just a kind of a wishful thought that at least his last moment felt
good. i know, realistically that it was probably a long horrible end.

a hiatus from ASD for a spell? =A0I did and it was the best thing I

unfortunately, i come here when i'm in pain. when i'm gone is when
i'm able to go on with my life.

could have done for myself, and I wish I had done so sooner. =A0Take
care of yourself, and maybe you should contact your doctor, and if you

i left a message for him the other day. i should try again. i
haven't had anti depressants for over 6 months and i need to get them
going again.
i'm calling as i hit send.

don't have one maybe it's time to get one.

~Rose

thanx for the support, rose.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 10:15:34 AM
On Dec 29, 8:09=A0am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 29, 11:01=A0am,

wrote:





On Dec 27, 5:25=A0am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:


i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal and feel t=

he

adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special song as h=

e

took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the tree? =A0did the Lor=

d

take him immediately or did he suffer? =A0does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


Oh geez punk....don't listen to those thoughts! =A0Those are the
thoughts of pain and desperation speaking those ugly lies about the


you're right. =A0they were...

'freeing' option of suicide. =A0I'm sorry you're in pain. =A0Perhaps tak=

e


i don't think it's a freeing option. =A0i just still have never been
able to get the pain of my cuz' accident to go away. =A0i guess it was
just a kind of =A0a wishful thought that at least his last moment felt
good. =A0i know, realistically that it was probably a long horrible end.

a hiatus from ASD for a spell? =A0I did and it was the best thing I


unfortunately, i come here when i'm in pain. =A0when i'm gone is when
i'm able to go on with my life.

could have done for myself, and I wish I had done so sooner. =A0Take
care of yourself, and maybe you should contact your doctor, and if you


i left a message for him the other day. =A0i should try again. =A0i
haven't had anti depressants for over 6 months and i need to get them
going again.
i'm calling as i hit send.

don't have one maybe it's time to get one.


~Rose


thanx for the support, rose.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm glad you contacted him/her and I hope you get some relief from
your suffering. I know what you mean about coming here when you're in
pain and you have to do what you need to do for you. I just hate to
see you going back and forth with Brian, it think it just makes you
feel worse imho. I know all about missing loved ones when they've
died, including by suicide. I'm sorry you're having those memories
come back to you at this time. Thinking of you....
~Rose
.



User: "Michelle la Belle"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 11:44:19 AM
On Dec 27, 8:25=A0am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal and feel the
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the tree? =A0did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? =A0does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.

How can you be so certain that the end of life means the end of pain?
I'm not a fan of suicide. I'd rather help you to live.
I don't mean to sound judgemental. i know how it feels to want to die.
But, go on, we must,. and I'd like to help you if I can.
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 11:44:49 AM
Michelle la Belle wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:25 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel the
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.


How can you be so certain that the end of life means the end of pain?
I'm not a fan of suicide. I'd rather help you to live.
I don't mean to sound judgemental. i know how it feels to want to die.
But, go on, we must,. and I'd like to help you if I can.

i'd like to ride a buffalo
.

User: "punk"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 12:34:03 PM
On Dec 27, 12:44=A0pm, Michelle la Belle <aminotem...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:25=A0am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:



i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal and feel the=
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the tree? =A0did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? =A0does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


How can you be so certain that the end of life means the end of pain?
I'm not a fan of suicide. =A0I'd rather help you to live.
I don't mean to sound judgemental. i know how it feels to want to die.
But, go on, we must,. and I'd like to help you if I can.

ok
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 12:37:53 PM
punk wrote:

On Dec 27, 12:44 pm, Michelle la Belle <aminotem...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:25 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:



i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel
the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


How can you be so certain that the end of life means the end of pain?
I'm not a fan of suicide. I'd rather help you to live.
I don't mean to sound judgemental. i know how it feels to want to
die. But, go on, we must,. and I'd like to help you if I can.


ok

now lets start with ,
what is the real issue
.



User: "aj suburban dude"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 04:27:41 PM
Punk, gawd I'm sorry you are feeling so bad. please don't seriously
think about suicide. that is dumb of me to say, when many of us DO
think about it, heck, I do myself, though not seriously. I haven't
thought about it as an actual possibility since before I found this
group. I did think about it, as if I might, at least 4 times.
after I found ASD, it's never been a serious option.
anyway, enough of me rambling. (((((( Punk )))))))
On Dec 27, 5:25 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel the
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.

.
User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 04:27:19 PM
hi
aj suburban dude wrote:

Punk, gawd I'm sorry you are feeling so bad. please don't seriously
think about suicide. that is dumb of me to say, when many of us DO
think about it, heck, I do myself, though not seriously. I haven't
thought about it as an actual possibility since before I found this
group. I did think about it, as if I might, at least 4 times.

after I found ASD, it's never been a serious option.
anyway, enough of me rambling. (((((( Punk )))))))

On Dec 27, 5:25 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel
the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.

.
User: "aj suburban dude"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 05:35:08 PM
hi
On Dec 27, 2:27 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi

aj suburban dude wrote:

Punk, gawd I'm sorry you are feeling so bad. please don't seriously
think about suicide. that is dumb of me to say, when many of us DO
think about it, heck, I do myself, though not seriously. I haven't
thought about it as an actual possibility since before I found this
group. I did think about it, as if I might, at least 4 times.


after I found ASD, it's never been a serious option.
anyway, enough of me rambling. (((((( Punk )))))))


On Dec 27, 5:25 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel
the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.

.
User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 05:35:18 PM
hi
aj suburban dude wrote:

hi

On Dec 27, 2:27 pm, "%" <pers...@gmail.com> wrote:

hi

aj suburban dude wrote:

Punk, gawd I'm sorry you are feeling so bad. please don't seriously
think about suicide. that is dumb of me to say, when many of us
DO think about it, heck, I do myself, though not seriously. I
haven't thought about it as an actual possibility since before I
found this group. I did think about it, as if I might, at least 4
times.


after I found ASD, it's never been a serious option.
anyway, enough of me rambling. (((((( Punk )))))))


On Dec 27, 5:25 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely
highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself
around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and confused and
tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel
the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as
he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the
Lord take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much
the people he left behind still love him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.

.




User: "lisa in mass."

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 10:02:38 AM
punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.

I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.
-lisa
.
User: "punk"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 10:31:34 AM
On Dec 27, 11:02=A0am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:

punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the
tree? =A0did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.

-lisa

lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.
.
User: "aj suburban dude"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 05:36:32 PM
On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:



punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.


-lisa


lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.

indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. you're
needed also.
.
User: "punk"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 05:44:14 PM
On Dec 27, 6:36=A0pm, aj suburban dude <ajsuburband...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:


punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the
tree? =A0did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.


-lisa


lisa, i'm glad you make there. =A0you're needed here.


indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. =A0 you're
needed also.

thanx, aaron...i lllove you dude, you're alswaus so nicd o me. i'llbe
better tomro.
gnite
.
User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 05:46:34 PM
punk wrote:

On Dec 27, 6:36 pm, aj suburban dude <ajsuburband...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:



On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:


punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.


-lisa


lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.


indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. you're
needed also.


thanx, aaron...i lllove you dude, you're alswaus so nicd o me. i'llbe
better tomro.

gnite

now she's going out with her real lover
.


User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 05:37:11 PM
hi , hi hoots too
aj suburban dude wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:



punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.


-lisa


lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.


indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. you're
needed also.

.
User: "Hoots"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 28 Dec 2007 07:20:20 PM
Oh, hi, hey hi over there, too.
% wrote:


hi , hi hoots too



aj suburban dude wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:



punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.
it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.
was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?
his pain is gone, but so is he.
i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.
but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.
the plan...
the option...
the way out of feeling any more pain.

I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.
-lisa

lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.

indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. you're
needed also.


.
User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 28 Dec 2007 07:44:00 PM
hi
Hoots wrote:

Oh, hi, hey hi over there, too.

% wrote:


hi , hi hoots too



aj suburban dude wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:



punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.
it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.
was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?
his pain is gone, but so is he.
i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.
but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.
the plan...
the option...
the way out of feeling any more pain.

I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.
-lisa

lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.

indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. you're
needed also.

.
User: "Hoots"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 06:04:09 AM
dum de dum de dum de dum....
oh, hi
hey hi
% wrote:

hi



Hoots wrote:

Oh, hi, hey hi over there, too.

% wrote:

hi , hi hoots too



aj suburban dude wrote:

On Dec 27, 8:31 am, punk <punkb...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 27, 11:02 am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:



punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.
it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. in a moment it'd all be over.
was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the
tree? did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?
his pain is gone, but so is he.
i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.
but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.
the plan...
the option...
the way out of feeling any more pain.

I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.
-lisa

lisa, i'm glad you make there. you're needed here.

indeed, Lisa is needed, but you know what, so are you Punk. you're
needed also.


.






User: ""

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 29 Dec 2007 10:02:21 AM
On Dec 27, 8:02=A0am, "lisa in mass." <mcc...@rcn.com> wrote:

punk wrote...

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the
lonely highway home. =A0he was only around 19 when he wrapped
himself around a tree. he was so young and beautiful and
confused and tortured.


it must have felt so good to him. =A0to floor the gas pedal
and feel the adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at
last...free from everything. =A0in a moment it'd all be over.


was he screaming in excitement? =A0was he blasting a special
song as he took to the sky? =A0was he scared when he hit the
tree? =A0did the Lord take him immediately or did he suffer?
does he know how much the people he left behind still love
him and miss him?


his pain is gone, but so is he.


i wouldn't do that. =A0i couldn't do that.


but it sounds so tempting. =A0so freeing.


the plan...


the option...


the way out of feeling any more pain.


I came close once. Got my car up to around 90 mph on the
interstate, aimed for the abutment, then noticed trimmed marsh
grasses growing at the base. I'd have slowed down in the damp
ground, maybe wouldn't have died, but still been one horrific
accident. Wasn't going there, so I slowed the car down and
continued on my way. Never told anyone off asd what I'd nearly
done.

-lisa- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh Lisa! I'm SO glad you didn't succeed! Who else would have helped
me set up my KF? ;-) Seriously, I'm glad you're alive, for your sake
and your family's. I hope the holidays were kind to you.
~Rose
.


User: "%"

Title: Re: suicidal tendencies 27 Dec 2007 09:33:44 AM
punk wrote:

i thought about my cousin this morning as i drove the lonely highway
home. he was only around 19 when he wrapped himself around a tree.
he was so young and beautiful and confused and tortured.

it must have felt so good to him. to floor the gas pedal and feel the
adrenaline rush as he took flight...free at last...free from
everything. in a moment it'd all be over.

was he screaming in excitement? was he blasting a special song as he
took to the sky? was he scared when he hit the tree? did the Lord
take him immediately or did he suffer? does he know how much the
people he left behind still love him and miss him?

his pain is gone, but so is he.

i wouldn't do that. i couldn't do that.

but it sounds so tempting. so freeing.

the plan...

the option...

the way out of feeling any more pain.

you'll regret it
.


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