Yesterday 7:19 - 4:48.
Today 7:19 - 4:39.
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 10:28:02 AM |
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Bruce. wrote:
Yesterday 7:19 - 4:48.
Today 7:19 - 4:39.
Bruce.
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 11:05:12 AM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 01:13:18 PM |
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
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| User: "%" |
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09 Jan 2007 01:15:36 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking
out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 01:59:15 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:m8qdnQGaU-p3dD7YnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@giganews.com...
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
I watched a special on a scientific research station at the south pole.
They said during the months of constant darkness, the depression rate among
the researchers reaches 100%. They became a community of depressed people,
all looking out for each other. No one is ever left alone for long.
Bruce.
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| User: "%" |
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09 Jan 2007 02:05:31 PM |
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"Bruce." <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
I watched a special on a scientific research station at the south pole.
They said during the months of constant darkness, the depression rate
among
the researchers reaches 100%. They became a community of depressed
people,
all looking out for each other. No one is ever left alone for long.
Bruce.
good thing i was depressed before i moved here
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 02:44:28 PM |
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:59 PM:
"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:m8qdnQGaU-p3dD7YnZ2dnUVZ_silnZ2d@giganews.com...
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
I watched a special on a scientific research station at the south pole.
They said during the months of constant darkness, the depression rate among
the researchers reaches 100%. They became a community of depressed people,
all looking out for each other. No one is ever left alone for long.
Bruce.
The alcohol consumption is also incredible. They import a LOT of high
test booze from Chile.
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 03:34:59 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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The alcohol consumption is also incredible. They import a LOT of high test
booze from Chile.
What they don't drink they can burn in stoves to keep warm. :-)
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 07:18:01 PM |
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 2:34 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50id5bF1gas2uU6@mid.individual.net...
The alcohol consumption is also incredible. They import a LOT of high test
booze from Chile.
What they don't drink they can burn in stoves to keep warm. :-)
Bruce.
I think they just get drunk more to forget the stove is out
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 01:32:25 PM |
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"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message
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soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
The sun moves in a big circle near the horizon?
You must have black curtains. I would.
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 01:47:16 PM |
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then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:15 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i7qdF1fqb4bU4@mid.individual.net...
then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking
out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
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| User: "%" |
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09 Jan 2007 02:04:40 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i9q3F1feod0U1@mid.individual.net...
then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:15 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i7qdF1fqb4bU4@mid.individual.net...
then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking
out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at
least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
on the day the summer solstice does
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 02:43:43 PM |
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then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 1:04 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i9q3F1feod0U1@mid.individual.net...
then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:15 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i7qdF1fqb4bU4@mid.individual.net...
then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate looking
out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at
least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
on the day the summer solstice does
I use stonehenge to tell me when that is.
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| User: "%" |
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09 Jan 2007 02:49:21 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50id3uF1gas2uU5@mid.individual.net...
then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 1:04 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i9q3F1feod0U1@mid.individual.net...
then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:15 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i7qdF1fqb4bU4@mid.individual.net...
then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate
looking
out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at
least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
on the day the summer solstice does
I use stonehenge to tell me when that is.
i have Gayle
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 03:25:34 PM |
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then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 1:49 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50id3uF1gas2uU5@mid.individual.net...
then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 1:04 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i9q3F1feod0U1@mid.individual.net...
then % wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:15 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i7qdF1fqb4bU4@mid.individual.net...
then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 10:05 AM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50hu4jF1gaopmU2@mid.individual.net...
7:22-4:52
We're getting to 5:00...that's where I prefer things. I hate
looking
out
the window @ 5:00 and seeing it totally black already.
I agree Franz. It's much better when the daylight lasts until at
least
5-6pm.
Bruce.
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job
where I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be
confronted by the dark.
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
on the day the summer solstice does
I use stonehenge to tell me when that is.
i have Gayle
She can't take a picture
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| User: "Gayle" |
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09 Jan 2007 04:23:46 PM |
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soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
on the day the summer solstice does
I use stonehenge to tell me when that is.
i have Gayle
She can't take a picture
So I went alookin' for a Stonehenge
webcam to help out with the image of
Solstice thing. I found one and while I
was looking, a bird landed on one of
those standy-uppie things -- and it fell
over. And I gasped out loud. Fuckahs got
me, but I am kinda easy to get.
Gayle
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 07:16:58 PM |
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then Gayle wrote, On 1/9/2007 3:23 PM:
soon i won't get any dark and i'll get sick of day all day
What day does that start?
on the day the summer solstice does
I use stonehenge to tell me when that is.
i have Gayle
She can't take a picture
So I went alookin' for a Stonehenge webcam to help out with the image of
Solstice thing. I found one and while I was looking, a bird landed on
one of those standy-uppie things -- and it fell over. And I gasped out
loud. Fuckahs got me, but I am kinda easy to get.
Gayle
....I don't get it
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| User: "Gayle" |
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09 Jan 2007 07:52:27 PM |
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So I went alookin' for a Stonehenge webcam to help out with the image
of Solstice thing. I found one and while I was looking, a bird landed
on one of those standy-uppie things -- and it fell over. And I gasped
out loud. Fuckahs got me, but I am kinda easy to get.
...I don't get it
http://www.somewheretogo.co.uk/stonehenge-webcam.html
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 08:09:49 PM |
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"Gayle" <gayleco@rcn.com> wrote in message
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http://www.somewheretogo.co.uk/stonehenge-webcam.html
Oops!
Bruce.
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 01:30:01 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job where
I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be confronted by
the dark.
I was in the same situation. Our office only had one wall with small
windows and the management got those 3 offices. The rest of the building
was small windowless offices. Florescent lighting was all we ever saw.
I would arrive at work at 7 am in the pitch black and leave at 5 in the
pitch black. My only salvation was I lived close enough to sometimes go
home for lunch so I got a bit of sun at that time.
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 01:55:26 PM |
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 12:30 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50i7qdF1fqb4bU4@mid.individual.net...
It was especially depressing when I used to work that late at a job where
I didn't have a window. I would leave the building and be confronted by
the dark.
I was in the same situation. Our office only had one wall with small
windows and the management got those 3 offices. The rest of the building
was small windowless offices. Florescent lighting was all we ever saw.
I would arrive at work at 7 am in the pitch black and leave at 5 in the
pitch black. My only salvation was I lived close enough to sometimes go
home for lunch so I got a bit of sun at that time.
Bruce.
I had one office I could work in during the summer. It had a big window
behind where I sat, was a nice big desk. It was next to the executive
assistant for the company's engineering department though, so it was a
noisy high traffic area. I also had the super tip top department's
plotter behind me and it was always busy cranking out technical
drawings. It was kind of annoying having somebody going in behind you
every so often. Fortunately it had a bin to catch things or the
automatic cutter would have been really annoying to have things drop at
my feet.
I would usually head to the server room instead. It had air conditioning
(really heavy duty), so it was nice to hang out there during the summer
months. I was also the only one in that building that had a key to the
room, so I could grab an afternoon nap when I felt like it, well unless
somebody in my department drove all the way down to our side of the
base. (I recall that happening once or twice a year)
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 02:11:37 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I had one office I could work in during the summer. It had a big window
behind where I sat, was a nice big desk.
Sounds nice. I used to have the biggest office and window in the place in
our old building, but that change completely when we moved in to a new
building. I lost the big office and a huge full wall window. It was about
then my depression was exploding in severity and the stress of the move and
losing my spacious office and window was almost too much to bear. God I was
angry. Life has been an uphill climb ever since.
It was kind of annoying having somebody going in behind you every so
often. Fortunately it had a bin to catch things or the automatic cutter
would have been really annoying to have things drop at my feet.
Yep, that does sound annoying, both the noise of the plotter and the traffic
to get the output.
I was also the only one in that building that had a key to the room, so I
could grab an afternoon nap when I felt like it, well unless somebody in
my department drove all the way down to our side of the base. (I recall
that happening once or twice a year)
That's a nice benifit. When I did get home for lunch, I would often lie
down on the couch, set and put a kitchen timer on my chest, and get a nap.
The kitchen timer would keep me from oversleeping.
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 02:52:01 PM |
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 1:11 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50ia9fF1ggje9U1@mid.individual.net...
I had one office I could work in during the summer. It had a big window
behind where I sat, was a nice big desk.
Sounds nice. I used to have the biggest office and window in the place in
our old building, but that change completely when we moved in to a new
building. I lost the big office and a huge full wall window. It was about
then my depression was exploding in severity and the stress of the move and
losing my spacious office and window was almost too much to bear. God I was
angry. Life has been an uphill climb ever since.
I was about to quit my last job because of the awful cubicle world.
Combine that with cheapass furniture that made me miserable with my bad
neck and headache, just could not tolerate it. They fired my department
before I could tell my manager to stuff it.
It was kind of annoying having somebody going in behind you every so
often. Fortunately it had a bin to catch things or the automatic cutter
would have been really annoying to have things drop at my feet.
Yep, that does sound annoying, both the noise of the plotter and the traffic
to get the output.
The secretary was a beautiful red head model, she was working there
until she could get enough modeling work to make a full career of it.
Just after I left she got steady work with an agency. I still have a
bunch of the photos from her portfolio. What a cutey.
I was also the only one in that building that had a key to the room, so I
could grab an afternoon nap when I felt like it, well unless somebody in
my department drove all the way down to our side of the base. (I recall
that happening once or twice a year)
That's a nice benifit. When I did get home for lunch, I would often lie
down on the couch, set and put a kitchen timer on my chest, and get a nap.
The kitchen timer would keep me from oversleeping.
Bruce.
It wasn't an *official* benefit. Just a little spot where I couldn't be
hassled. I did still have my Nextel-ish radio, so I wasn't completely
left alone.
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| User: "Bruce." |
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09 Jan 2007 03:52:38 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I was about to quit my last job because of the awful cubicle world.
Combine that with cheapass furniture that made me miserable with my bad
neck and headache, just could not tolerate it. They fired my department
before I could tell my manager to stuff it.
Cubicals suck big time. I've spent a lot of time in cubicals.
In my last job of 16 years, on my first day they stuck me in a small office
with 4 other programmers. We didn't even have cubical walls, just small
workstations just big enough for a monitor and keyboard. 5 people
practically climbing over each other.
Over time I graduated to better surroundings. First to an office with just
one other person, then finally to my own huge office with the full wall
window. From 5 to 2 to solo. I was happy in there for many, many years.
Until they decided to move us to a new and "better" office building just
across the parking lot. We did manage to talk them out of building a
cubical farm, and they filled the space with small offices instead. Must
have cost them a fortune to construct. The rumor was they spend about 3/4
of a million bucks to house about 15 programmers and bosses, each with a
private office. I should have immensely grateful for the private office
they gave me, but all I could think about was the window I had lost.
Bruce.
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| User: "Franz Bestuchev" |
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09 Jan 2007 07:21:38 PM |
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then Bruce. wrote, On 1/9/2007 2:52 PM:
"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50idjhF1g39ngU1@mid.individual.net...
I was about to quit my last job because of the awful cubicle world.
Combine that with cheapass furniture that made me miserable with my bad
neck and headache, just could not tolerate it. They fired my department
before I could tell my manager to stuff it.
Cubicals suck big time. I've spent a lot of time in cubicals.
In my last job of 16 years, on my first day they stuck me in a small office
with 4 other programmers. We didn't even have cubical walls, just small
workstations just big enough for a monitor and keyboard. 5 people
practically climbing over each other.
Over time I graduated to better surroundings. First to an office with just
one other person, then finally to my own huge office with the full wall
window. From 5 to 2 to solo. I was happy in there for many, many years.
Until they decided to move us to a new and "better" office building just
across the parking lot. We did manage to talk them out of building a
cubical farm, and they filled the space with small offices instead. Must
have cost them a fortune to construct. The rumor was they spend about 3/4
of a million bucks to house about 15 programmers and bosses, each with a
private office. I should have immensely grateful for the private office
they gave me, but all I could think about was the window I had lost.
Bruce.
Some people I know at IBM are getting their offices moved, during the
..com boom there were people practically working with a PC on their lap
in the hallway. Now there's entire buildings that are practically empty.
They're consolidating everybody in and sticking 2 people in the same
office...but nobody complains because they aren't there. Something like
50% of the people telecommute. IBM doesn't have to really pay for their
office and so they're grateful and pay their cable/DSL bill.
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| User: "Bruce." |
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| Title: Re: Sunshine |
09 Jan 2007 07:44:04 PM |
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"Franz Bestuchev" <franz.bestuchev@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:50itd2F1fqcsbU1@mid.individual.net...
Some people I know at IBM are getting their offices moved, during the .com
boom there were people practically working with a PC on their lap in the
hallway. Now there's entire buildings that are practically empty.
I've been in the computer industry since 1969 or so, way before personal
computers. I never imagined what happened during the .com bust was even
possible. It used to be when the economy soured, businesses turned to
computers and automation to save money, so our industry was virtually
recession proof. I'm not sure why the .com bust was so different, but it
was devastating to my industry, my occupation specifically.
"No IT occupation has been hit as hard as computer programming since the
dot-com bust, struck by factors from offshoring to the rise of off-the-shelf
applications. U.S. programmer employment plummeted nearly a quarter from
2000 to 2003"
http://www.informationweek.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=193302725
Imagine that. Almost 1 in 4 jobs lost nationwide in just 3 years. That's
an undeniable recession that went almost totally unreported.
Even now, the decline has only leveled off. It remains to be seen what
happens next. If they keep offshoring jobs, it never will recover.
Programming as a career will become a dying art.
Something like 50% of the people telecommute. IBM doesn't have to really
pay for their office and so they're grateful and pay their cable/DSL bill.
This is my first experience with telecommuting. So far it's been ok.
Bruce.
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