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Sociology > Depression |
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"electro" |
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17 Jun 2006 10:13:51 AM |
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supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
she's having some kind of ptsd (or so she says) relating to dealing with her
mother.. ..so I'm taking both her sons to her this afternoon for a
supervised visit. it's been over a month since she's asked to see either
one of them, (or made any contact, period). yet she comes off as if we've
been *keeping* her kids from her.
when I talked to her, she got into this huge drama over her mother - she's
trying to convince me (now) that her mother is evil, and shouldn't have
custody of her older son. I don't take anything she takes seriously.. ..but
I feel bad for her.. ..she's having some serious health problems
relating to stress..
anyway.. ..I'm stressed out by her *****. she left about 3 msg's on my voice
mail after hanging up on me for not participating in her drama. she gives
me the willies.. ..and raises my blood pressure like no one else I know..
Ty
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
18 Jun 2006 02:55:44 AM |
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Hi Electro,
man, I wanted to say that I am really proud of you for being a good father.
I am sorry for all the ***** you are going through over all of this. this
might be out of line, but, you deserve a nice anti-anxiety pill for being
stressed out. I don't remember if you take those or not, but if you do, you
deserve an extra one. okay i shouldn't be saying that, but still.....Anyway,
what i really wanted to say is, I'm glad you are the one looking out for the
best interests of your kids, when she is clearly not. Even though i'm not a
father myself, i believe strongly in father's rights and all that. i'm glad
in this case she does not have custody of the older son.
So who does, you or the grandma? oh ,it seems the grandma, well thats better
than a screwed up parent (the mom) having custody. this kinda reminds me
of some of my life which was shared with my brother, that i wish had never
happened (a screwed up parent having legal custody....damn that )
glad you don't take anything she says seriously. hopefully she will get
better so that she can be a better mom for her son, and a better person for
herself and all that.... although maybe, probably, you think "yeah right,
like that will ever happen".... I don't know, obviously. I feel badly for
all of you.
oh, if I misunderstood something, forgive me, i haven't followed all of
your posts.
wishing you (and kids) a peaceful and calm night & day.
"electro" <pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:P_Ukg.52376$iF6.28204@pd7tw2no...
she's having some kind of ptsd (or so she says) relating to dealing with
her
mother.. ..so I'm taking both her sons to her this afternoon for a
supervised visit. it's been over a month since she's asked to see either
one of them, (or made any contact, period). yet she comes off as if we've
been *keeping* her kids from her.
when I talked to her, she got into this huge drama over her mother - she's
trying to convince me (now) that her mother is evil, and shouldn't have
custody of her older son. I don't take anything she takes seriously..
...but
I feel bad for her.. ..she's having some serious health problems
relating to stress..
anyway.. ..I'm stressed out by her *****. she left about 3 msg's on my
voice
mail after hanging up on me for not participating in her drama. she gives
me the willies.. ..and raises my blood pressure like no one else I
know..
Ty
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| User: "lisa in mass." |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
17 Jun 2006 10:20:04 AM |
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electro wrote...
she's having some kind of ptsd (or so she says) relating to
dealing with her mother.. ..so I'm taking both her sons to
her this afternoon for a supervised visit. it's been over
a month since she's asked to see either one of them, (or
made any contact, period). yet she comes off as if we've
been *keeping* her kids from her.
when I talked to her, she got into this huge drama over her
mother - she's trying to convince me (now) that her mother
is evil, and shouldn't have custody of her older son. I
don't take anything she takes seriously.. ..but I feel bad
for her.. ..she's having some serious health problems
relating to stress..
anyway.. ..I'm stressed out by her *****. she left about 3
msg's on my voice mail after hanging up on me for not
participating in her drama. she gives me the willies..
..and raises my blood pressure like no one else I know..
Ty
what a mess. i hope the visit goes well. it must be confusing
for the kids to see their mother so infrequently. i guess ds
is young enough that he doesn't know yet, but they may end up
feeling hurt by her on-again, off-again visitations.
take care of yourself through this, ty.
-lisa
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| User: "electro" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
17 Jun 2006 03:10:38 PM |
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"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97E5734D14F33mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what a mess. i hope the visit goes well. it must be confusing
for the kids to see their mother so infrequently. i guess ds
is young enough that he doesn't know yet, but they may end up
feeling hurt by her on-again, off-again visitations.
take care of yourself through this, ty.
-lisa
that's the worst part, is the confusion the kids must feel about their
mother. she really did it to herself, and has all kinds of options for
reversing her situation to everyone's benefit.. ..but she'd rather play the
big victim and blame everyone else for her multitude of problems..
I'm just getting the kids ready to go here.. ..so, I'll give an update when
I get back..
thanks lisa
Ty
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| User: "Bacon" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
17 Jun 2006 03:42:22 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:10:38 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97E5734D14F33mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what a mess. i hope the visit goes well. it must be confusing
for the kids to see their mother so infrequently. i guess ds
is young enough that he doesn't know yet, but they may end up
feeling hurt by her on-again, off-again visitations.
take care of yourself through this, ty.
-lisa
that's the worst part, is the confusion the kids must feel about their
mother. she really did it to herself, and has all kinds of options for
reversing her situation to everyone's benefit.. ..but she'd rather play the
big victim and blame everyone else for her multitude of problems..
I'm just getting the kids ready to go here.. ..so, I'll give an update when
I get back..
thanks lisa
Ty
I thought you had just gotten back together with her. I guess that's
old news.
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| User: "electro" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
17 Jun 2006 06:54:43 PM |
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"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:78q892t8652dblmh7mst0rojssm1jq5llt@4ax.com...
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 20:10:38 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:
"lisa in mass." <mccats@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:Xns97E5734D14F33mccatsjavanetcom@130.133.1.4...
what a mess. i hope the visit goes well. it must be confusing
for the kids to see their mother so infrequently. i guess ds
is young enough that he doesn't know yet, but they may end up
feeling hurt by her on-again, off-again visitations.
take care of yourself through this, ty.
-lisa
that's the worst part, is the confusion the kids must feel about their
mother. she really did it to herself, and has all kinds of options for
reversing her situation to everyone's benefit.. ..but she'd rather play
the
big victim and blame everyone else for her multitude of problems..
I'm just getting the kids ready to go here.. ..so, I'll give an update
when
I get back..
thanks lisa
Ty
I thought you had just gotten back together with her. I guess that's
old news.
my 3 y.o's mother is a psycho-***** who tried to knap him.. ..my
newborn's mother and I are still strong together though.. ..living
together..
guess you had to be there from the beginning to follow.. ..I'd simply grown
used to typing "ds" referring to my eldest, forgetting it covered the new
one too..
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| User: "Bacon" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
17 Jun 2006 07:25:37 PM |
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On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:54:43 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:
I thought you had just gotten back together with her. I guess that's
old news.
my 3 y.o's mother is a psycho-***** who tried to knap him.. ..my
newborn's mother and I are still strong together though.. ..living
together..
guess you had to be there from the beginning to follow.. ..I'd simply grown
used to typing "ds" referring to my eldest, forgetting it covered the new
one too..
I knew that...wasn't thinking. How is the newborn who I guess is a
couple months old now. Potty trained yet? God I could never have
kids, I can barely take care of myself.
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| User: "electro" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
17 Jun 2006 09:56:10 PM |
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"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ti5992tqfo1auc32s8jr8af2squklj9gub@4ax.com...
On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 23:54:43 GMT, "electro"
<pewter_toast@NOhotmailSPAM.com> wrote:
I thought you had just gotten back together with her. I guess that's
old news.
my 3 y.o's mother is a psycho-***** who tried to knap him.. ..my
newborn's mother and I are still strong together though.. ..living
together..
guess you had to be there from the beginning to follow.. ..I'd simply
grown
used to typing "ds" referring to my eldest, forgetting it covered the new
one too..
I knew that...wasn't thinking. How is the newborn who I guess is a
couple months old now. Potty trained yet? God I could never have
kids, I can barely take care of myself.
he's doing superbly.. ..he likes to 'stand-up' already.. ..has been doing
it since he was 2 weeks old. he actually holds all of his own weight while
perched straight up.. ..one just has to keep him from tipping over.
the best part is. he smiles now.
Ty
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
18 Jun 2006 02:58:59 AM |
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"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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God I could never have kids, I can barely take care of myself.
you took the words right from me, Bacon. I couldn't never have kids. I
can hardly take care of myself.
though I take better care of my DOG than myself. he's the closest that I
will ever come to having kids
unconditional love rules, yo!
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| User: "Bacon" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
18 Jun 2006 03:13:40 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 01:58:59 -0600, "aaron from suburbia"
<suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote:
"Bacon" <rbkfour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ti5992tqfo1auc32s8jr8af2squklj9gub@4ax.com...
God I could never have kids, I can barely take care of myself.
you took the words right from me, Bacon. I couldn't never have kids. I
can hardly take care of myself.
though I take better care of my DOG than myself. he's the closest that I
will ever come to having kids
unconditional love rules, yo!
I can honestly and without hesitation or regret of any kind say
definitively that I have no desire to have children and that I see it
as simply the most difficult, time consuming, expensive and
frightening process I can imagine. I don't see how it's done.
Everyone says it's so rewarding and that it changes you and life has
meaning. Well what else can you really say? Whoa...big mistake. My
bad, live and learn. It's one of those life events you're stuck with
so you HAVE to buy into a new reality.
Marriage sounds just as bad IMO. Cats...dry food, litter box, water -
and still a challenge for me.
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| User: "aaron from suburbia" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
18 Jun 2006 07:58:05 AM |
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"Bacon" spoketh
I can honestly and without hesitation or regret of any kind say
definitively that I have no desire to have children and that I see it
as simply the most difficult, time consuming, expensive and
frightening process I can imagine. I don't see how it's done.
Everyone says it's so rewarding and that it changes you and life has
meaning. Well what else can you really say? Whoa...big mistake. My
bad, live and learn. It's one of those life events you're stuck with
so you HAVE to buy into a new reality.
Marriage sounds just as bad IMO. Cats...dry food, litter box, water -
and still a challenge for me.
I don't see, I can't see, how it's done, either. It must take a different
sort of human being
to go through all of that.
seems yous and Is don't belong to that completely different set of human
beings.
whoa, man.
people sometimes ask me: "do you have kids" "are you married?" "when are
you gonna get married and have kids?"
..........and all i can do is give them that funny perplexed look.
"gah?"
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| User: "gravity" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
18 Jun 2006 08:18:21 AM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:e73esu$1jd$1@nntp.aioe.org...
"Bacon" spoketh
I can honestly and without hesitation or regret of any kind say
definitively that I have no desire to have children and that I see it
as simply the most difficult, time consuming, expensive and
frightening process I can imagine. I don't see how it's done.
Everyone says it's so rewarding and that it changes you and life has
meaning. Well what else can you really say? Whoa...big mistake. My
bad, live and learn. It's one of those life events you're stuck with
so you HAVE to buy into a new reality.
Marriage sounds just as bad IMO. Cats...dry food, litter box, water -
and still a challenge for me.
I don't see, I can't see, how it's done, either. It must take a
different
sort of human being
to go through all of that.
seems yous and Is don't belong to that completely different set of human
beings.
whoa, man.
people sometimes ask me: "do you have kids" "are you married?" "when
are
you gonna get married and have kids?"
.........and all i can do is give them that funny perplexed look.
"gah?"
i have never been married, but i did live with my ex girlfriend. it went
pretty smoothly, but there were some crazy times. i'm not sure i'd like to
repeat the experience.
i will get married in 8 years.
Gravity
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| User: "electro" |
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| Title: Re: supervised visits with ds' mom.. |
18 Jun 2006 11:19:08 PM |
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"aaron from suburbia" <suburbanlife@mail.com> wrote in message
news:e73esu$1jd$1@nntp.aioe.org...
"Bacon" spoketh
I can honestly and without hesitation or regret of any kind say
definitively that I have no desire to have children and that I see it
as simply the most difficult, time consuming, expensive and
frightening process I can imagine. I don't see how it's done.
Everyone says it's so rewarding and that it changes you and life has
meaning. Well what else can you really say? Whoa...big mistake. My
bad, live and learn. It's one of those life events you're stuck with
so you HAVE to buy into a new reality.
Marriage sounds just as bad IMO. Cats...dry food, litter box, water -
and still a challenge for me.
I don't see, I can't see, how it's done, either. It must take a
different
sort of human being
to go through all of that.
seems yous and Is don't belong to that completely different set of human
beings.
whoa, man.
people sometimes ask me: "do you have kids" "are you married?" "when
are
you gonna get married and have kids?"
.........and all i can do is give them that funny perplexed look.
"gah?"
well, Bacon's partially right, you get "stuck with it" in a sense.. ..but it
really is an other-worldly experience, having this other, new, little human
being that is essentially an extension of your own body, in a way.. ..it's
really the natural progression of what it means to be a living, mortal
being.
people without kids do miss out on a lot of life lessons, IMHO.. ..when
you have kids.. ..you learn so many things about yourself, and your own
perception of reality. you relive your own childhood. you can avoid
mistakes your parents made. or make new ones that you end up learning new
things from.
best of all. they love you by default.
Ty
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